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futureteg
05-09-2005, 03:48 PM
what do you have in term of security?

I'm picking up my 240 on thursday, and first thing that gets done is a kill switch.

s14turbosilvia
05-09-2005, 03:52 PM
As soon as my car is up and running, I've got a really nice alarm, costs about a grand for it without installation. I don't think the theive situation is too bad here in the midwest. not as bad as on the west coast, but you can stilll never protect yourself enough.

futureteg
05-09-2005, 03:56 PM
dunno, with hondas its like a 30 second job to disconnect alarm...pretty much why i'm going for the manual method...this way unless theyr find the switch the car is not going anywhere :)

ZK
05-09-2005, 04:02 PM
Alarm isn't going to do much. 30 second job to disable an alarm. From there they bypass the whole system and then drive the car off. Even if you have the most elaborate security system, they can just come in with a tow truck and tow the car away.

Nothing is theif proof, you just have to make it difficult enough to steal that it makes it not worth their time.

SRkouki
05-09-2005, 04:15 PM
get a new steering wheel and quick release hub and just take out your wheel when you park :)

Yoshi
05-09-2005, 04:24 PM
I'd like to suggest that we add our home addresses and time when we're at work/school/out-of-town while we're at this.

It'll make it WAY more efficient for car theives to jack out rides if we add this info too, instead of just what alarms/security measure we've got... that's only half the required info for a 2minute jacking. sheesh guys, have some consideration for the common booster :rolleyes:
:drama: :spank: :axe:

pruto
05-09-2005, 04:25 PM
quick release,

Wei240
05-09-2005, 04:26 PM
here you go,

http://www.universalboot.com/products/Wheel-Boot-Lock-Installation.html
hahaha

also applicable if you don't feel like paying for parking so all you need is this and something that looks like a parking ticket...

eyustfu
05-09-2005, 04:27 PM
lojack! or the autolock footpedal locks.

With the popularity of QR's, i wouldnt doubt it if some theives already have the steering wheel/QR handy already

chris4130
05-09-2005, 04:46 PM
I'd like to suggest that we add our home addresses and time when we're at work/school/out-of-town while we're at this.

It'll make it WAY more efficient for car theives to jack out rides if we add this info too, instead of just what alarms/security measure we've got... that's only half the required info for a 2minute jacking. sheesh guys, have some consideration for the common booster :rolleyes:
:drama: :spank: :axe:


haha... that's so true...

anyways, whoever said they think their car will be safe with a "hidden" kill switch is just really ignorant or really stupid. Have you ever herd of a roll back? I mean honestly, If someone wants your car bad enough they WILL get it. Just don't be stupid about it.

futureteg
05-09-2005, 05:11 PM
haha... that's so true...

anyways, whoever said they think their car will be safe with a "hidden" kill switch is just really ignorant or really stupid. Have you ever herd of a roll back? I mean honestly, If someone wants your car bad enough they WILL get it. Just don't be stupid about it.
i know that they can tow it. But besides that if they don't find the switch its not going anywhere, start the car and it'll stall, no fuel= no going.

Its all about layers in security, trust me I come from hondas, on honda-tech there is a 2-3 cars stolen per week, but it doesn't hurt to have protection against your typical amateur, and sometimes it'll work against a pro.

samms95s14se
05-09-2005, 05:14 PM
The best security for the cheapest price would be basic alarm with kill switch and Quick Release steering wheel one step further would be going ghetto and take of your coil wire. But if your away from home and they have a tow truck say bye bye.

Jonnie Fraz
05-09-2005, 05:25 PM
Alot of it is making your car unappealing to thiefs, via alarms, club, wheel boot or whatever. If your car is easy it will get jacked, if it is alarmed or whatever hopefully the scumbag will move on. I saw a 300z today that had a big old chain run through his wheels and around a tree in his front yard. Too funny, but if they want it bad enough it's gone.

hkspeed
05-09-2005, 05:51 PM
quick release hubs are horrible theft deterant devices. they can be removed with allen wrenches. a theif removes the hub, then attaches his own wheel using the same allen screws.

just make your car a pain in the azz to steal and most theives wont bother. get an alarm, detachable hub or the club, autolock, kill switches, lojack, poop on the driver's seat, whatever.

G_Fish240
05-09-2005, 05:52 PM
Do something, my s13 hatch was stolen in front of my place april 4th 2004 and they still haven't found anything.

projectRDM
05-09-2005, 05:58 PM
Best method? Don't ever go to import car shows, drift events, car meets, etc. with your car. Ever. How do you think these guys know about it in the first place?

Park it in a garage, drive it where you need, and avoid the entire import scene and you're fine. Never drive home if there's a car behind you, never leave it parked anywhere for more than five minutes. Extreme measures, yes. First time some kid sees the car it's on the list to get stolen anyway. And it will, sooner or later. The new and upcoming people in the scene are all young punks who can't stand someone having something nicer than them, better than them, or less obtainable than what they have. And they're used to having everything handed to them on a silver platter, so why not take your car too. You won't miss it, right?

jc
05-09-2005, 06:01 PM
just make your car a pain in the azz to steal and most theives wont bother. get an alarm, detachable hub or the club, autolock, kill switches, lojack, poop on the driver's seat, whatever.
:eek:

Heh, that gave me a good chuckle for a little bit.

HyperTek
05-09-2005, 06:33 PM
edit-nvm blah blah blah

wootwoot
05-09-2005, 07:30 PM
There was one security system that is illegal. It gives a warning of what is about to happen, then has a blast so loud it can make you go deaf. Would be pretty nice. "You stole my stereo? Well atleast you cant listen to it now you deaf asshole." Anyone here ever see those CRAZY anti theft stuff on some cars in Africa? One was a flame thrower, another a buzz saw at ankle leve, and yet another with just a spring loaded bar that basically took their knees out. These are dead serious things that actually existed, I think I saw it in Popular Mechanics when I was younger

The Jabberwocky
05-09-2005, 07:44 PM
best theft deterrent.....a GARAGE....

i guess what im trying to say is, a thief will get your car no matter what, unless he enters your garage and which at that point might wake you up and will result in a scuffle....

I a thief were to steal my car i would seriously hook up a gas chamber inside the car so it would fucking kill him....i have a lot of hostility and wouldn't think twice to keep the thief hostage and torture the thief by cutting his eyelids off, inserting needles underneath his fingernails, cutting the bottom of his feet off and insert corn under the feet and sew it back up, etc....

Dutchmalmiss
05-09-2005, 09:42 PM
I a thief were to steal my car i would seriously hook up a gas chamber inside the car so it would fucking kill him....i have a lot of hostility and wouldn't think twice to keep the thief hostage and torture the thief by cutting his eyelids off, inserting needles underneath his fingernails, cutting the bottom of his feet off and insert corn under the feet and sew it back up, etc....

lol, werd with that bro. there should be auto body guards. pay them about 7 bucks an hour to watch your car. they'll have to be buff and armed. not that this would ever happen, but hey, i can dream right?

matlock
05-10-2005, 12:20 AM
my dad's friend had an extra battery wired into the door handles and had a remote to activate it on his old school muscle car...probably illegal but cool none the less.

ghambino
05-10-2005, 12:27 AM
quick release hubs are horrible theft deterant devices. they can be removed with allen wrenches. a theif removes the hub, then attaches his own wheel using the same allen screws.

just make your car a pain in the azz to steal and most theives wont bother. get an alarm, detachable hub or the club, autolock, kill switches, lojack, poop on the driver's seat, whatever.


HAHAHA....good shit!

HyperTek
05-10-2005, 12:31 AM
an alarm and a club... turn the wheel all the way and lock it, then put on club,.. hey its enough of an eye deterrant to show it wont be a fast car jack.

Yah i hear clubs are breakable with liquid nitrogen, but how often do people have easy access to that...

Park in visible areas, it will take balls to pull a flat bed in time while the wheels are locked at an angle in a public area.

Yah quick release hubs sound cool.. but i wasnt really fond of the vast popularity they have gained... they soo cheap now and alot of them are the same type its pointless..

Maeda
05-10-2005, 12:37 AM
There was one security system that is illegal. It gives a warning of what is about to happen, then has a blast so loud it can make you go deaf. Would be pretty nice. "You stole my stereo? Well atleast you cant listen to it now you deaf asshole."

Actually there is something similar to this that you can add onto certain alarms.

It doesn't make you deaf but it does make you dizzy and feel like somethings going to pop out of your skull... It saved my old car.

o5i2
05-10-2005, 01:01 AM
the club is basically useless, you can either pop it or cut the steering wheel to get it off. the autolock is a much better investment.

luisgonz
05-10-2005, 01:10 AM
i bought a nex-tel and stuck it some where i can call customer service and can tell me where its at and have a kill switch,alarm,steering wheel removed,and park it in storage

chris4130
05-10-2005, 01:21 AM
the club is basically useless, you can either pop it or cut the steering wheel to get it off. the autolock is a much better investment.

Yup, only thing that sucks about that is it's not as visable. But, you're right the club is the biggest gimmik.

HyperTek
05-10-2005, 09:39 AM
ok so how long does it take to cut a club?? thats my point, it slows em down... enough to where they decide to walk away...

futureteg
05-10-2005, 10:23 AM
ok so how long does it take to cut a club?? thats my point, it slows em down... enough to where they decide to walk away...

i saw that tow truck show...they sell a tool for the club...took them less than 30 seconds to get it off.

killjoy
05-10-2005, 11:45 AM
This is what i have:

http://www.tekniqauto.com/US/home.htm

Check out the snap off system. The cool thing about it is it comes with these things that break off in the allen screws so you can't just take it off and put a oem steering wheel back on.

krustindumm
05-10-2005, 01:00 PM
Alarm isn't going to do much. 30 second job to disable an alarm. From there they bypass the whole system and then drive the car off. Even if you have the most elaborate security system, they can just come in with a tow truck and tow the car away.

Nothing is theif proof, you just have to make it difficult enough to steal that it makes it not worth their time.

If you install it correctly, it will take more than 30 seconds. My alarm is fully integrated into the wiring harness, and the wiring harness is *armored*. The alarm brain is located so that the only way to even see it is to remove the dash, and the siren is also protected in that way.

A fuel pump kill is also a good idea, and I am currently installing one that auto arms with a hidden reed switch to reset it.

HyperTek
05-10-2005, 01:23 PM
ok this shit is stupid about talkin about the ways to steal a car.. thanks for the ideas guys!!!

MakotoS13
05-10-2005, 03:18 PM
guys, seriously, r240na has the only real logical way to avoid this kind of situation. i whore out pics of my car but i live in podunk texas and offer zero trackable info for my car. there's also a carport, various kill switches, and 3300lb truck that has an alarm blocking it in. most fo the time its under a car cover. when i do start takin the car places the car alarm will be excessive and very well hidden.

oh, and keeping your car lookin close to stock doesn't hurt ;)

sideview_180sx
05-10-2005, 03:26 PM
fuel pump kill, alternator kill, battery kill. 9mm on hand. Nothing inside.And garaging your shit are enough to hold someone off from your house. In public places, best bet is to take another car. Soccer mom vans are a good idea. I use this method since im paving the side of my house next month so I can park it on the side and let Biggles sleep next to my car. hehe. Also only drive your car when necessary, why go visit friends when they can come visit you, never go to ghetto areas. hell I was tripping out when my car was parked at Thao's old place, and she said peoples cars get jacked all the time.

sr13det
05-10-2005, 03:45 PM
best theif deterent system is RICE!! make your car ricey as you can and its guaranteed to be safe. jk

wootwoot
05-10-2005, 04:10 PM
Actually there is something similar to this that you can add onto certain alarms.

It doesn't make you deaf but it does make you dizzy and feel like somethings going to pop out of your skull... It saved my old car.


Care to give a little bit more detail about that? Which system and all of that whatnot, hopefully you diddnt say earlier and I missed it :fruit:

But reguarding the club, most steering wheels are not to sturdy. Shit heads just cut the steering wheel and dont f with the club.

Jonnie Fraz
05-10-2005, 07:34 PM
In my old truck I wired two 130db piezo sirens hidden in the vents. They call them pain generators. I turned it on for my friend and his vision went blurry while he was in the truck, heh heh. They are like ten bucks at radio shack, or like fourty at the audio stores.
Way cool...Theifs in pain...it makes me giggle.

KiDyNomiTe
05-10-2005, 08:29 PM
i bought a nex-tel and stuck it some where i can call customer service and can tell me where its at and have a kill switch,alarm,steering wheel removed,and park it in storage
The only smart thing on your list is the storage. The rest are pointless cuz you just posted it.

I'm gonna agree with Yoshi, don't post your methods, and don't think quick releases are gonna stop anyone. The first thing they will notice before they try to break-in is the quick release, then if they really want the car they'll buy one and come back.

Kill switches will at least buy some time, and possibly have them giving up, but not if you tell them on this forum.

I just vote keep your interiors simple. Theives like pretty shiny things.

And get a midget with a shotgun. There are a lot of little things you can do to your car that you will notice the more you work on it, but posting them would be dumb.

SilviaDriver
05-10-2005, 08:43 PM
get a quick release but when you take off your steering wheel, use something to cover it up that way they dont know which one you have.

that means they have to go out and find out all the different types of QRs, and buy a shitload of them, with steering wheels and match it up when they find out which one you have.

i believe there are also QR locks

The Jabberwocky
05-10-2005, 11:19 PM
even without the steering wheel, a smart thief would fucking tow your car away!

Jonnie Fraz
05-11-2005, 12:05 AM
Face it if they want it bad enough it is gone. Well except for the midget with a shotgun. By my work this dude rolled up with a tilt tray and jacked a Vette off this car lot. This is funny though they caught the dudes doing meth. in the police parking lot in broad daylight. :doh: Crooks are so stupid

SilviaDriver
05-11-2005, 12:37 AM
even without the steering wheel, a smart thief would fucking tow your car away!

turn the wheel all the way to outside of the road, take off wheel, try n tow it off the streets now with the wheels turned to the side.

it would look suspicious dont ya think

p11driver
05-11-2005, 12:43 AM
This is what i have:

http://www.tekniqauto.com/US/home.htm

Check out the snap off system. The cool thing about it is it comes with these things that break off in the allen screws so you can't just take it off and put a oem steering wheel back on.

that looks pretty good. this video makes me want to buy it
http://www.tekniqauto.com/snapoff_demo.wmv

Rezlo
05-11-2005, 01:06 AM
Those mini sirens are amazingly painfull to the ears, I had one in my old car! there are a few new items to combat tow trucks, like movement and mercury switches that trip the alarm as soon as the vehicle is tilted together with a 2 way paging remote it can help.

Here in africa as posted earlier they had some awsome things but most of the people went to jail when they used the Fire Ball thing even though the were being aproached by armed hi-jackers with statistics of 87% that they leave you shot...
Another good one was cow-stillers (like a tazer gun for nailing cows when they get branded) hooked up to chrome door handles is sweet, or a little brass plate stuck inside the handle where you cant see it, but that to here has landed up with theives dying from cardiac arrest and then their families actualy sue the vehicle owner, lmfao only in africa...
Tear gas that gets released inside the car is incredibly effective, there was a company making a 12V activated unit that would spray for 30 seconds out the vents, but if that goes off by error it is not very fun...

Ive read somewhere about a brake lock that if your alarm trips it can lock all 4 breaks (VERY BAD IF CAR IS MOVING) but would make getting the car onto a towtruck fairly noisy and timely

If a theif wants it bad enough, theyll have it, simple as that.

I just keep my S14 looking as stock as possible, seems to work, but unfortunatly now the price of SR20's with VVT has gone up to almost $4000US so people are steeling S14's & 15's here just for the engines :nono:

knowleqe
05-11-2005, 01:14 AM
that looks pretty good. this video makes me want to buy it
http://www.tekniqauto.com/snapoff_demo.wmv

it looks like there is a lot of play at 23 seconds.

killjoy
05-11-2005, 12:48 PM
Coolest thing about the tekniq is that every single one is drilled different. My steering wheel won't work on my buddys car wiht the same system. So you can't just go buy one and think you are going to steal every car with the same system.

p11driver
05-11-2005, 12:52 PM
it looks like there is a lot of play at 23 seconds.
yea i just saw it looks like it moves around a bit.
killjoy, does yours move loosely like that?

Yuri
05-11-2005, 01:40 PM
After Thao's car got stolen, I drive my S13 to work so I can check on it all day. When I go to areas where I'm scared of it getting stolen, I take my Evo. It's easier to replace a stock Evo with full coverage than a liability only S13 with $ worth of parts.

killjoy
05-11-2005, 04:27 PM
yea i just saw it looks like it moves around a bit.
killjoy, does yours move loosely like that?

No mine don't move, it eactually feeld crisp. It doesn't have play when you are turning it but does move a little when you sitting still. I have used it its great.

nismoenthu
05-11-2005, 05:05 PM
fuel kill switch, battery kill switch, 2 way alarm system, and one really freekin loud syren

Dutchmalmiss
05-11-2005, 05:23 PM
No mine don't move, it eactually feeld crisp. It doesn't have play when you are turning it but does move a little when you sitting still. I have used it its great.

so i'm assuming since every hole is different, you can only use the wheels Tekniq makes?

Slidin240Wayz
05-11-2005, 05:36 PM
That huge boot costs 450 bucks, a bit pricey for me.

atom
05-11-2005, 05:38 PM
I don't think he means the holes for mounting the wheel to the quick release ring, he's talking about the holes that help secure the two pieces of the quick release together are uniquely placed.

Flipzide
05-11-2005, 08:01 PM
from reading about that tekniq snap off system...theres 3 differnt models

1 for tekniq wheels only (street legal)
1 for momo/sparco wheels (street legal)
1 for tekniq/momo/spary wheels (not street legal/show or race only)

looks pretty good especially since the holes r differnt so not everyone has the same piece