problems with final swap

[vinhisbored]

this whole weekend, me and about 4 friends did an auto >> 5 speed swap on my car.. anyhow, i took into consideration all of the feedback that many have been giving me throughout the last few weeks, as i have been gathering as much information was possible. with that said, though the whole swap took us alot longer than we thought for we ran into so many problems, this morning, we completed it. there was only one problem.. when the car was turned on, it wouldn't go into gear. before the tranny was put into the car, it was able to be put into all gears, including reverse. when it was installed (before engine was turned on) it was able to be put into all gears, including reverse. after the engine was turned on, my friend tried to put it into reverse and get out of the garage, but.. the tranny grinded? after pushing the car out.. he tried it with first too. the engine grinded. we must have checked the lines/slave cylinder/clutch/flywheel about 5 times, and yet nothing looked wrong. after trying new things, the car would drive, but only under the condition that we had to start the car, and gas/clutch as if we were actually driving (but keep in mind, while starting the car). this applies the same to reverse too, so right now, i dont think my car is drivable, because when it's at a complete stop (stop sign.. light..) when put into neutral, it won't go into 1st, so it'll make this grinding noise, and we'll have to do that 'turn off car.. clutch/gas' manuever. anyways.. when we are able to drive though, it's very harsh changing gears. the tranny seems to be in good condition, as well as the other parts, but now i'm begining to think that it's the tranny? but i'm wondering how i can shift into all gears when it's not on? (the car) please let me know any feedback.. im in need of help for i need to figure out what to do because i need my car. it's my daily driver. thanks alot.

[sLip techniques]

hey vinh you have all the sensors hooked up on the tranny? And did you change the gear oil??

[vegita319]

did u try adjustin ur clutch pedal free play? it should be about 1-3 mm (.39 - .118 in) ckuzz i had a problem like taht too...i was only able to start it in gear and it i couldnt shift into any other gear unless i shut off the engine...hope this helps

[vinhisbored]

nope not all sensors are hooked in.. and yes, did change the gear oil with mobil 1 (because i couldnt find redline at autozone/kragen). anyways, the clutch was adjusted (about 4 times), and that didnt work.

[TheTicTac]

Did you check if the flywheel is the correct size? I have a feeling that that is what your problem is

[vinhisbored]

well i do believe that it is the right size. i bought it from a guy that parted out his car, so it came with that transmission/etc.

[TheTicTac]

Like did you have the flywheel resurfaced at all, or did you just install as is? It also could be that the pressure plate was installed incorrectly, leaving the clutch always engaged.

[94eghatch]

Like did you have the flywheel resurfaced at all, or did you just install as is? It also could be that the pressure plate was installed incorrectly, leaving the clutch always engaged.

ours was a bad slave cylinder check that, and make sure you bleed that mofo.

[vinhisbored]

yes, the flywheel was indeed resurfaced, and it was a BRAND NEW clutch (exedy) so i dont think it'd be those.. the slave cylinder did seem to work, and it was bled about 3 or 4 times.

[sLip techniques]

do you have the line straight to the slave? or you have the damper box connected also?

[vinhisbored]

what's the damper box?

[meme]

dampener box: at the end of the line from the master cylinder it feeds into the dampener box. from there it loops around and goes into the slave.

kind of a pain to bleed the dampener box.

[chlatboy]

yes it is. IF you follow the clutch line (on a manual car) not too sure on autos, the line will plug into a little box thingy. THe box thingy will have other hardlines running from it, one will go into the rubber tube connected to the slave cylinder. What you need to do is connect the clutch hardline (one that runs from master) to the rubber tube (which is connected to the slave.) This should work if that is ur problem. :wavey:

[drift into a curb]

Where did you adjust the pedal? With the rod? Loosen lock nut and adjust? I'm thinking you didn't adjust it correctly. Keep trying until it works. After I did my clutch, it was very hard to shift and after adjusting, no problems whatsoever.

[94eghatch]

our slave also appeared to be working but it was falling flat on its ass at the engagement point. Just didnt cut the mustard, also ditch that damper box, take forever.

[vinhisbored]

appears that the problem was solved. the slave cylinder was not able to reach (or push hard enough) into the 'stick' that is sticking out of the tranny (i apologize.. i dont know what it's called) so what me and some friends did was we put in a small socket (size 7 MM) in the little dab that sticks out and pushes onto the 'stick' located on the tranny. now, it's all good. thanks for everyone that contributed. i appreciate it.

[sLip techniques]

ill show u how to drive it now :coold:, hahaha