300ZXTT Brakes, can you use the K's emergency brake cable?

[alkemyst]

I have been reading the late Silvia edit: 270R had the same brakes as the 300ZXTT conversion. However, does the silvia has the proper cables on the rear for emergency braking?

Anyone know about this, or a part number....local Nissan was not helpful...however they will do my PCV valve for $35 parts and labor which I think is a steal (I will probably be the last one to get that deal)....they wanted $106 labor only to change my manual trans fluid :)

[projectRDM]

You can't read. All Silvia Q/Ks came with 4piston Sumitomos in the front.

Front. Not rear.

[alkemyst]

hmmm k dont have to be a d!ck about it...I would say my reading skills are way above average, I only own about 1000 books, most highly technical. However, the things I have read and it's not that easy finding, have shown the larger rotor setup in the rear too.

Are the rears just stocker's then?

[Dousan_PG]

woah a 1000 books! omg you are so cool!
and they are technical.

someone get this guy an award!!!

going rear z32 brakes
read freshalloy.com
but ill give you the info
use skyline rear ebrake lines
er33, er34..etc
33 or 34 chassis


if staying stock brakes (like japan had samesize as US iirc) then get stock lines

rear is another story if going z32
fronts are z32 in japan for s14/s15 same specs and such
different type of soft line though thats it.

i got some for free.
didnt read a book for it though.
or do i need to put this info in a book so you can add it to your incredible tally of books. im impressed

[TurDz]

please don't say "emergency brake" if you're so technical too. It's properly referred to as a hand-brake. You should never use it during an emergency.

[projectRDM]

hmmm k dont have to be a d!ck about it...I would say my reading skills are way above average, I only own about 1000 books, most highly technical. However, the things I have read and it's not that easy finding, have shown the larger rotor setup in the rear too.

Are the rears just stocker's then?

You don't even have to read to look at a picture of any home market car and see the same piddly ass rear caliper that we have in the US.

And I own three books, so are you saying the amount of books one owns is in direct relation to their intelligence? Funny, while you're reading I'm actually getting my hands dirty working on cars and researching this stuff so lazy fuckstains like you can come in here and ask idiot fucking questions, forcing me to answer them.

[mbmbmb23]

please don't say "emergency brake" if you're so technical too. It's properly referred to as a hand-brake. You should never use it during an emergency.

I thought the correct term was "parking brake"?

[alkemyst]

Apparently everyone would like to jump on the bandwagon and shout out, instead of reading what I was asking. I have read that the Silvia K's came with the 300zxtt brakes front and rear. Whether this is true or not I cannot confirm.

My question was if that is the case and then could you use the emergency brake cables from it.

Then I was questioned about reading comprehension...so I mentioned I really doubt that. Not only do I own 1000 or so books, I have only about 7 years of college behind me through Calc III, Physics, Biochem...I also have been working on cars, boats and trucks as a hobby for about 18 years now...I am now 34. Whatever though. I came to get someone that knew about the situation's answers, not in a pissing contest with some dude with a wish list for his car.

The 'hand brake' is an emergency brake and a 'parking brake', and any term is correct (unless of course your's is foot mounted, an obvious option the poster above seems clueless about).

emergency brake n. A separate brake system in a vehicle for use in case of failure of the regular brakes and commonly used as a parking brake. Also called hand brake.

a brake operated by hand; usually operates by mechanical linkage
Synonyms: hand brake, emergency, parking brake

Wikipedia

emergency brake

Emergency break(sic) handle in a german train around 1920

An emergency brake is a brake system that is generally only to be used in emergency situations to slow or stop a machine. The most well-known emergency brakes are those in trains and automobiles. Many people shorten emergency and call the devices e-brakes. Additionally, in the automobile context, they are also known as parking brakes and hand brakes.

In trains, control of emergency brakes is made available to the traveling passengers. Activating the brake will cause the train to automatically stop. Severe fines are often in place to dissuade people from activating the brake without good reason.

In cars, the emergency brake is a supplementary system that can be used if the vehicle's primary brake system (usually hydraulic brakes) has a failure. Automobile e-brakes usually consist of a cable directly connected to the brake pads on one end and to some type of lever that can be actuated by the driver on the other end. The lever is most commonly a handle on the floor between the driver and front passenger (hence the hand brake name), or a pedal in the foot well in front of the driver. In the central handle configuration, the brake can be activated either by the driver or passenger (if the driver were to become unconscious, for instance).

However, the most common use for an automobile emergency brake is to keep the vehicle motionless when it is parked. Car emergency brakes have a ratchet locking mechanism that will keep them engaged. On vehicles with automatic transmissions, this is usually used in concert with a parking pawl in the transmission.

Historically, some cars with automatic transmissions were fitted with automatically releasing parking brakes. The parking brake would be released if the gear selector was placed in a forward or reverse gear. This automatic release system was eventually discontinued as a safety hazard, since there would be no protection against accidentally knocking the transmission into gear. Worse still, many North American-market Ford Motor Company cars from the late 1960s had a flaw in which, when the steering-column mounted shifter's bearings wore, the car could jump into reverse from park on its own. This and automatically releasing parking brakes were a deadly combination.

To R240NA, getting hands dirty...I seriously doubt you have even half the experience I have on working on various cars, but perhaps with all the junk 240 stuff you peddle though you may know quite a bit about those. Maybe your some grease monkey though, whatever...I work on cars as a past time, sorry if I don't study every aspect of a vehicle living to belittle someone coming on as if it's instinctual. You do seem to love bashing other's here and seem to love dropping bombs like 'wipe the stains off yourself', "You are all so lazy", "JDM Drifto", etc. Damn you're so cool. Damn I think you forget your meds regularly.

On my own 98 SE, in only the one year I have owned it have done all the suspension, all the maintenance, switched out the rear diff...this is all me doing all the labor, nothing in a 'shop'...add to that a 408ci 1996 Eddie Bauer Bronco which I am doing all new brakes next weekend on (calipers, rotors, wheel bearings, pads, shoes), then a 26' Dusky Open Fisherman which I do various electronics, installed / replaced quite a few mechanicals...meanwhile I have a REAL job that has it's own responsibilities. My first car at 16 was a 1966 Mustang GT my father bought and we fully restored. Not just a paint job project, but a full take everything down and repaint, replace, refinish with NOS and reproduction where NOS was not available. Total into that was $40k. Quite a bit of stuff I learned on that, and that one did get me pretty dirty. If I had more free time I'd have more stuff done. It's time that really limits my projects now, but I like doing various things each weekend.

But to me it's all about not getting so dirty...the vehicles I work on are pretty much kept clean anyway...it's also about finding out the best way to do a job so not to waste a bunch of time on it. So perhaps you can get done early and go drive it, or get out on the boat, etc. Hope you got all *perked* about this though. I know how to repair and maintain things, I don't know nor care to know the specs of every YO JDM tite thing to come out of Japan.

So as not to FORCE you to do anything else, how about just go back to your daily garage sales of salvage goods and ignore my posts so I don't take you away from 'getting dirty' working on your beaters.

again, damn you are cool.

[SimpleS14]

long ass post lol but yea...the Silvia comes with the same rear calipers as the 240SX. However, the M/C is the same size as the US 240SX auto M/C.

[projectRDM]

Then I was questioned about reading comprehension...so I mentioned I really doubt that. Not only do I own 1000 or so books, I have only about 7 years of college behind me through Calc III, Physics, Biochem...I also have been working on cars, boats and trucks as a hobby for about 18 years now...I am now 34. Whatever though. I came to get someone that knew about the situation's answers, not in a pissing contest with some dude with a wish list for his car.

To R240NA, getting hands dirty...I seriously doubt you have even half the experience I have on working on various cars, but perhaps with all the junk 240 stuff you peddle though you may know quite a bit about those. Maybe your some grease monkey though, whatever...I work on cars as a past time, sorry if I don't study every aspect of a vehicle living to belittle someone coming on as if it's instinctual. You do seem to love bashing other's here and seem to love dropping bombs like 'wipe the stains off yourself', "You are all so lazy", "JDM Drifto", etc. Damn you're so cool. Damn I think you forget your meds regularly.

On my own 98 SE, in only the one year I have owned it have done all the suspension, all the maintenance, switched out the rear diff...this is all me doing all the labor, nothing in a 'shop'...add to that a 408ci 1996 Eddie Bauer Bronco which I am doing all new brakes next weekend on (calipers, rotors, wheel bearings, pads, shoes), then a 26' Dusky Open Fisherman which I do various electronics, installed / replaced quite a few mechanicals...meanwhile I have a REAL job that has it's own responsibilities. My first car at 16 was a 1966 Mustang GT my father bought and we fully restored. Not just a paint job project, but a full take everything down and repaint, replace, refinish with NOS and reproduction where NOS was not available. Total into that was $40k. Quite a bit of stuff I learned on that, and that one did get me pretty dirty. If I had more free time I'd have more stuff done. It's time that really limits my projects now, but I like doing various things each weekend.

But to me it's all about not getting so dirty...the vehicles I work on are pretty much kept clean anyway...it's also about finding out the best way to do a job so not to waste a bunch of time on it. So perhaps you can get done early and go drive it, or get out on the boat, etc. Hope you got all *perked* about this though. I know how to repair and maintain things, I don't know nor care to know the specs of every YO JDM tite thing to come out of Japan.

So as not to FORCE you to do anything else, how about just go back to your daily garage sales of salvage goods and ignore my posts so I don't take you away from 'getting dirty' working on your beaters.

again, damn you are cool.

Wish list? WTF? Before you spew off at me and assume I'm so 14yr old troll who's riding the wagon like everyone else you should take a step back.
I've owned and maintained nothing but 240SXs for 13 years. And those were at the end of a long list of other cars. I'm old just like you, and have been turning wrenches since day one. 'Getting dirty' is a figure of speech, no I'm not some white trash hick who lives in the woods and buys cars found in lakebeds. They are not beaters, nor have I ever owned anything that was not in 110% perfect condition if I could help it. I don't get 'perked' about anything, it's common sense for the most part and I don't shortcut anything like you say.
I'm a dick to everyone because 13 years ago the guys who were around did their own research and didn't come crying on a web board for help. You'd do the same if you were around as long as I've been. You see the community turning to total and complete shit since all these little punks continue to sign up and ride the wagon, ignoring any sort of ethics and wanting everything handed to them on a silver platter. And that's the point, all the research, all the answers, everything is already there for them, within a few keystrokes, yet no one wants to lift a finger to find it. They've been given everything by their parents from day one and have never had to work for anything, and the society they've lived in has taught them to expect it all, right now.

[turtl631]

Just to clarify: the K's comes with the 4 piston fronts, same small sliding 1 piston rear as in the US, and the auto USDM MC? How is the pedal feel with that setup? I thought the only difference between the auto and manual usdm cars was the size of the brake booster. Is that incorrect?

[alkemyst]

I've owned and maintained nothing but 240SXs for 13 years. And those were at the end of a long list of other cars. I'm old just like you, and have been turning wrenches since day one. 'Getting dirty' is a figure of speech, no I'm not some white trash hick who lives in the woods and buys cars found in lakebeds. They are not beaters, nor have I ever owned anything that was not in 110% perfect condition if I could help it. I don't get 'perked' about anything, it's common sense for the most part and I don't shortcut anything like you say.
I'm a dick to everyone because 13 years ago the guys who were around did their own research and didn't come crying on a web board for help. You'd do the same if you were around as long as I've been. You see the community turning to total and complete shit since all these little punks continue to sign up and ride the wagon, ignoring any sort of ethics and wanting everything handed to them on a silver platter. And that's the point, all the research, all the answers, everything is already there for them, within a few keystrokes, yet no one wants to lift a finger to find it. They've been given everything by their parents from day one and have never had to work for anything, and the society they've lived in has taught them to expect it all, right now.

Hey man I can agree, there, I have been online since 1983...on Anandtech since 1999, and previously Saturn boards during that time as I was in college. Want to see dicks go to a saturn board. I buy a $10k car, fix it up a bit and everyone on the board bashs Saturns (not saying they are a great car, but while in college a second time, cheap enough).

I have done quite a bit of research so far, my website is www.DriftKat.com...my time is a bit limited so I look for experience to make getting an answer quicker...I thought the K's only had big fronts...I was reading though they had both...apparently that is not the case.

:)

[projectRDM]

Just to clarify: the K's comes with the 4 piston fronts, same small sliding 1 piston rear as in the US, and the auto USDM MC? How is the pedal feel with that setup? I thought the only difference between the auto and manual usdm cars was the size of the brake booster. Is that incorrect?

Incorrect. On the US S14 the auto MC is 15/16", 5speed is 7/8".

[alkemyst]

I was reading about the 270R model, not the K's after all...I was going back to my note and not the original websites. Anyone know how the 270R's emergency brake is hooked up and a part number?

[turtl631]

Thanks for the info Russ.

[projectRDM]

I was reading about the 270R model, not the K's after all...I was going back to my note and not the original websites. Anyone know how the 270R's emergency brake is hooked up and a part number?

More than likely, it uses the R33 rear cables. I doubt Nissan would engineer a completely new part for a limited edition car like that. Body panels are one thing, but since the running gear is all off the shelf parts I'm sure the cables are too.

[nrg]

You'll have a better chance of making your own cable then find one at nissan dealer.

[Dousan_PG]

you can buy new R33 cables at superior nissan
80some to 100 per side

i got mine for free from a cool guy locally. test fited great, putting on this weekend.

[270R]

this is being done on an s14 right? If it is post pics like smogtech did....