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420sx
03-30-2005, 03:39 PM
well, im getting ready for my marketing test on Friday :w00t: , and i was thinking of 240sx, since its being "Reintroduced" to the car geek croud (or "ricers", whatever) thanks to drifting coming to the US and stupid magazines, like Super Street, it seems as this Fad is starting to die out.

I think the whole 240 craze peaked out a year ago and now its starting to fade away, and soon all the ricers will sell their 240s and switch to a diff Fad... :2f2f:

Anyone has any comments on my thoughts? or the fad is just picking up? :ughug:

sr240mike
03-30-2005, 03:41 PM
It seems like its still going strong. Events are still packed and kids are still buying sr5 corollas for $5k+.

mike13
03-30-2005, 03:43 PM
i wish the fad would die, but im afraid its only just begun... the little kids next door dont even know what my car is.

there are like 3 modded s14's in the greater pittsburgh area, and drifting is still an underground motorsport IMO. not too many people are on the RWD bandwagon yet.

420sx
03-30-2005, 03:44 PM
hmm.... well seems like sr supply is gonna dwindle in next few years

mike13
03-30-2005, 03:45 PM
hmm.... well seems like sr supply is gonna dwindle in next few years
the SR supply has already dwindled

redtops anyways

Yoshi
03-30-2005, 03:50 PM
I'd agree we're past the peak, unless D1 suddenly explodes on TV and creates a new (younger) fanbase... ugh. I don't think it peaked a year ago tho, I'd say just recently.

I'm so mad at myself for making this newb statement 5 years ago when I got my first S13.
(while flipping through a "JC Whitney Sport Compact" catalogue) "damn all these stupid companies for totally ignoring my car! Everything is for civics and tegs and eclipses... I want a billet aluminum red anodized dip stick for my car :( *whine-whine*".

You should always be careful what you wish for :P

S14DB
03-30-2005, 03:51 PM
You always need a new fad to replace that old one.

BSeay
03-30-2005, 03:52 PM
I'd agree we're past the peak, unless D1 suddenly explodes on TV and creates a new (younger) fanbase... ugh. I don't think it peaked a year ago tho, I'd say just recently.

I'm so mad at myself for making this newb statement 5 years ago when I got my first S13.
(while flipping through a "JC Whitney Sport Compact" catalogue) "damn all these stupid companies for totally ignoring my car! Everything is for civics and tegs and eclipses... I want a billet aluminum red anodized dip stick for my car :( *whine-whine*".

You should always be careful what you wish for :P


i hear that when i got my first S14 i was like, damn they dont make shit for my car...

now we have rice-atezzas.... :duh:

420sx
03-30-2005, 03:53 PM
well i just kinda want only the real nissan fans to stay and all the ricers get out the door. haha

too early to wish for that i guess

Drunk Bastard
03-30-2005, 03:58 PM
ya, hopefully the new fad will be awd, or who has the "coolest" FF car. haha, but i agree ^^^^ we need the true fans/drivers to stay and all the bandwagoners to find some new wagon to jump on.

420sx
03-30-2005, 04:08 PM
i just dont understand people like that. "oh this is the shit! i want this car! i wanna driftttt" typical consumer behaviour. they have no idea what are they buying. or what they are getting into.

when i bought my car i new NOTHING of this and that was like 2 and a half years ago. it was merely a trasportation vehicle that looked cool. haha . ricer...

Creizai
03-30-2005, 04:34 PM
I have yet to see any Riced out 240's, Cept from japan but they can get away with it because its JDM lol. I've only seen clean 240's in my area with the correct mods. Plus the Comunity is very good for 240's thats why i'm going to get into it, well other than all you FF haters.

driftyour40
03-30-2005, 04:45 PM
Man the riced out 240 thing is alive and well in CA. I like many of you bought my car 5 or 6 years ago, and watched as it became what it is today. And you know what I'm going to sit here and watch it dwindle down to what it started at, true enthusiasts.

HaLo
03-30-2005, 04:48 PM
I just hope it's dying... but to me, it doesn't seem so...

We have at least 1 or 2 years more..

sw20>>s14
03-30-2005, 05:11 PM
i have a feeling that itll be around for a while longer. as long as older people sell their "first sports car" and theyre available, kids will buy them...

pruto
03-30-2005, 05:22 PM
i told my ricer friend wannabe drifter how much i spend on drifting a month. $400-500 just on tires and events, he was like, oh, i didn't know drifting was that expensive...

SimpleS14
03-30-2005, 05:39 PM
You always need a new fad to replace that old one.

maybe Rally if WRC comes to the states and keeps the current regulations...or maybe grip (or circuit) driving if we get some nice Euro and Japanese cars over here. But all this is wishful thinking.

sw20>>s14
03-30-2005, 05:56 PM
i told my ricer friend wannabe drifter how much i spend on drifting a month. $400-500 just on tires and events, he was like, oh, i didn't know drifting was that expensive...

haha...that scenario sounds about right. people just dont think past the hype

s13rymos
03-30-2005, 06:02 PM
I wish the fad would die also. I'm sick of 4 people a week asking me if im gonna sell my car so they can do some mad drifting yo. :tweak:

Kreator
03-30-2005, 06:08 PM
maybe Rally if WRC comes to the states and keeps the current regulations...or maybe grip (or circuit) driving if we get some nice Euro and Japanese cars over here. But all this is wishful thinking.

doubt it. even if wrc comes to the states. If people are considering $400-500/month for drifting expensive, then i doubt you can expect rally to be big when just the entrance fee is that much. Now add having to own a tow vehicle, trailer, money for gas to tow the $15K car to the event, hotel and then repair all the crap that will break on the car. Hell, i thought i was doing pretty well financially when i decided to dive into this, but i think i'll hold off for another year or two. The DMS suspension that all competitive rally cars run is like twice expensive then the best coilovers you can get for hte 240sx.

Yeah, rally is big with awd owners, but from my experience very few of them are ricers. Even if the awd becomes big next, i'm pretty sure most of these people will remain on the sidelines.

As for hte 240 fad, i dont think it hit midatlantic that much in the first place yet. Most people i see w/ 240s around here have respect for their cars :-/

m0rex
03-30-2005, 06:10 PM
The hype seems to be more around the coast west/east. Around the midwest people dont even know what a 240sx is. Yet the tuner shops and people who are really into 240sx love them and turbo them or swap them. I see a lot of older people driving s13 a lot and the s14 are really rare because only the people who know what a s14 means buy them. At my high school theres only 2 240sx and a cheerleader owns a s13 and i own a s14 i never talk to her though (she's too hawt for me :yum: and it has neons :doh: ). I have friends who like them because they see them in magazines and fucken :madfawk: NFSU: 2 :madfawk: since its probably the best car in there now every ricer wants to put spinners on it and make it look something similar to Pimp my Ride. Now all these 16 year olds want to buy a s13 at my high school and some dont even know that s14's were ever made.

MikeFD3S
03-30-2005, 06:37 PM
They're still popular. The fad isnt dying anytime soon, it's bleeding over into other car markets. Any early 90's RWD coupe has become more popular.

katbak
03-30-2005, 06:57 PM
I have yet to see any Riced out 240's,
:mepoke: ... is this kid still alive.
There will always be the riced 240, I like it better when i see an ass ugly beat to shit 240 than one ricing it.

the 240 will be a sick ass driving machine no matter what.
the only way the 240 will die out is if some car company makes a sick rw coupe and in 10 years it gets reasonably priced.

mjjstang
03-30-2005, 07:07 PM
this is the coolest thing ive heard in a while, and hope its true,

chickentendah
03-30-2005, 07:58 PM
RANT WARNING

One of the most annoying things I hear from time to time is "do you drift?". No I do not drift you dipsh*t. Just because I drive a 240sx, it does not mean I drift. I bought the car for it's power potential and price.

The first time I fell in love with S13's was when I learned that a local tuner shop in SoCal (CarTune and Neishlin Motors) was importing mysterious red-colored engines 5 years ago. I had a growing obsession with turbochargers, and I envied people who custom-boosted their motors e.g. H22A and B18C5. I wanted to boost, but I didn't have the $$$ for a custom install which ran for about $5000---and you gotta have the car first before you can even work on it! Keep in mind then, bolt-on turbo kits were relatively hard to come by.

Then the more I looked into the red-colored engine, the more I realized how much of a bargain it was. For all I was concerned, the S13 was the only car you could get and have turbo---all for under $10,000 total. I finally bought my S13 (with the redtop pre-installed) 2 years ago. If you were to ask me then, "Do you drift?" I'd tell you, "What the hell are you talking about? What's drifting?"

When F&F came around, the media successfully brainwashed the public into believing that the car-show scene e.g. (Import Showoff and HIN) was equivalent to illegal street racing. Something happened next (you can fill in the blanks for me) and now we have retards wanting 240sx's because they're "cool."

I don't care when people jump onto the "bandwagon." However, It really bugs me when people buy 240sx's just because it's "cool." That shows that they have no genuine appreciation for the car and it's worth.

If you're reading this sentence, thank you for listening to me bitch. ;)
Death to the 240 fad!

fliprayzin240sx
03-30-2005, 08:19 PM
I'd agree we're past the peak, unless D1 suddenly explodes on TV and creates a new (younger) fanbase... ugh. I don't think it peaked a year ago tho, I'd say just recently.

I'm so mad at myself for making this newb statement 5 years ago when I got my first S13.
(while flipping through a "JC Whitney Sport Compact" catalogue) "damn all these stupid companies for totally ignoring my car! Everything is for civics and tegs and eclipses... I want a billet aluminum red anodized dip stick for my car :( *whine-whine*".

You should always be careful what you wish for :P

AMEN!!!

I think we all should mainstream togue too, show all the ricers the "best" places *the ones that has them nice skidmarks off the cliff* and let natural selection take its course. Drifting just wont weed em fast enough or keep em down long enough.


PS: another idea is for us to spread the word that rotaries are the shiet and that RX7s *specially the FCs* that they are so much more superior, reliable and easier to work with that 240sx with their KA, CA or SR.

sw20>>s14
03-30-2005, 08:50 PM
PS: another idea is for us to spread the word that rotaries are the shiet and that RX7s *specially the FCs* that they are so much more superior, reliable and easier to work with that 240sx with their KA, CA or SR.

"yeah man, get a power fc and boost the shit outta it. thats all you need, itll be fine! make sure to get the loudest bov too."

m0rex
03-30-2005, 08:51 PM
Yeah sounds like a good idea but they aint cheap well atleast boost aint cheap on them. I dont think ricers like to go fast around corners with stock suspensions :D.

sw20>>s14
03-30-2005, 08:53 PM
I dont think ricers like to go fast around corners with stock suspensions :D.

i dont think ricers like to go fast around corners period...

420sx
03-30-2005, 08:53 PM
hmmm.... i dont think this is gonna work. only the media forms opinions. this forums croud aint big enough to spread "word of mouf"

madwilly240
03-30-2005, 08:55 PM
so whats the next fad gonna be? I got dibs on Subaru Justy!

.... actually I think the RX7s will get real popular... the rotary crazy of 2006!!

nocturnaldrifter
03-30-2005, 09:06 PM
RX-7 fad would be funny, kids blowing money on keeping up the highly UNRELIABLE rotary engine. It'd be good for shops, theyd have tons of work =D

DMC
03-30-2005, 09:06 PM
ok just reading what you guys said about it still being a fad, and how redtops dwindle. by the time im done rebuilding my redtop(6 months) would i be able to sell it for alot of money do you guys think?

420sx
03-30-2005, 09:08 PM
^^^ hahah. that was a good joke!

JDMs13
03-30-2005, 09:11 PM
Every time I see that chick ^ ...I stare at her huge tats for at least 2 minutes. Shes cute.

sw20>>s14
03-30-2005, 09:12 PM
ok just reading what you guys said about it still being a fad, and how redtops dwindle. by the time im done rebuilding my redtop(6 months) would i be able to sell it for alot of money do you guys think?

(al borlon): i dont think so, tim

lilredstiffy
03-30-2005, 09:14 PM
240sx's are so 2004!
the fad is over!

sell your 240's, your pink polo shirts, your lance armstrong bracelets, and give up on the napoleon dynamite quotes! SO LAST YEAR


:cj:

420sx
03-30-2005, 09:15 PM
^hahah. tooltime bitch,


actually, we are all wrong. next trend is gonna be this in 2007:
http://img.lenta.ru/news/2005/03/30/hondacrx/picture.jpg

91CRXsiR
03-30-2005, 09:28 PM
so at what time period month/year do you have to have had your 240 already to be considered NOT on the bandwagon? 1 year ago? 2? 3?

Pank
03-30-2005, 09:36 PM
i'm just hoping the s14 is in the next Fast and the Furious movie, then i'll sell my 2,500 dollar s14 for twice that much and get a 350z.


ok, maybe not, but its a dream

aznpoopy
03-30-2005, 09:39 PM
won't happen.

a s14 kouki was already in the first Fast and the Furious movie.

.... actually I think the RX7s will get real popular...

they've been popular. just browse around on some rx7 forums.

just as 240 forums get kids like, 'j0 i want to get a 240 and drift, wtf do i do?'
they get, 'j0 my parents gave me 20k. i want to get a a FD i heard they are kind of unreliable; is it true???'

91CRXsiR
03-30-2005, 09:43 PM
yea but RX7's violently punish no0bs or i woulda bought 1 looong time ago

aznpoopy
03-30-2005, 09:48 PM
yea but RX7's violently punish no0bs or i woulda bought 1 looong time ago

speaking of which my gf's FC just took a dump on her coming home from work. rotary powah!

sw20>>s14
03-30-2005, 09:50 PM
they could be bulletproof if you know what your doing

aznpoopy
03-30-2005, 09:53 PM
the naturally aspirated ones, yes.

the turbocharged ones will forever have shorter engine life.

matlock
03-30-2005, 09:54 PM
I think it is funny that there was an S14 in the first F&F and even the Skyline and nobody knew what they were or paid attention they were all like dang that is a sick Eclipse and now drift and stuff is cool and its like everyone I talk to is like my all time favorite car is a Nissan Skyline R34 GTR Spec blah blah blah they just memorize cars in mags and video games. I dunno I guess I don't care if it is a fad or whatnot I thnk the people that Truly appriciate the car have nothing to worry about, except a lot of beautiful cars being ruined but at least the true 240 fans will keep them alive and well :)

420sx
03-30-2005, 10:48 PM
^^ word of the wise

katbak
03-30-2005, 10:58 PM
Quite true, I truly appreciate my 240 and it's just fun to drive, even if it wasnt SR'd... Maybe by the time I'm 50 there will be a nicer rw coupe that has had its time and would be worth the fun as the cost dies down, but as far as a love for driving theres really nothing that could take my 240s place.

infinitexsound
03-30-2005, 11:24 PM
flavor flav... "dont believe the hype"

TachyonS14
03-31-2005, 12:07 AM
I think it is funny that there was an S14 in the first F&F and even the Skyline and nobody knew what they were or paid attention they were all like dang that is a sick Eclipse and now drift and stuff is cool and its like everyone I talk to is like my all time favorite car is a Nissan Skyline R34 GTR Spec blah blah blah they just memorize cars in mags and video games. I dunno I guess I don't care if it is a fad or whatnot I thnk the people that Truly appriciate the car have nothing to worry about, except a lot of beautiful cars being ruined but at least the true 240 fans will keep them alive and well :)

:werd:

Very true. Most people like a year or two ago had no idea what a Skyline was. Now it's every ricers dream car. And I agree, kids are crashing their 240's left and right drifting into crap.

It's kind of hard to tell what the next fad will be. Maybe hybrid racers!

mjjstang
03-31-2005, 06:14 AM
next fad is gonna be impulse RS

ranisron
03-31-2005, 06:46 AM
kids are stupid.... kids around here are even more stupid - still messing with the SOHC civics with altezza lights, muffler... yikes...

xVaporx
03-31-2005, 07:09 AM
who Cares?!?!?!?

U12Bluebird
03-31-2005, 07:24 AM
:werd:

Very true. Most people like a year or two ago had no idea what a Skyline was. Now it's every ricers dream car.

Not true. Many people since 1999 knew what a Skyline was.


Well those who played Gran Turismo.

RedlineRacer
03-31-2005, 07:34 AM
I think its still rising. I have a bunch of people come up to me when they see my car, and be like, "Thats a nice 240. I am about to buy one soon." Don't know if they are telling the truth or not when they say they are about to buy a new one. But "Pimp my ride" just did a 240 not too long ago. And whoever said that they have never seen a riced 240 except in Japan, then you need to watch that episode. It was so tacky.

mjjstang
03-31-2005, 07:39 AM
heeh that quackveit kid, that was fucked up, and even worse when they finished it, but there is no fad here in michigan its great, just me and my buddy have a 240, then there are some other SR stragglers here and there, most people out here driving them are oriental women who give 2 shits about what they are driving, (no offense by that)

420sx
03-31-2005, 07:44 AM
who Cares?!?!?!?

people that posted here

WanganRunner
03-31-2005, 07:48 AM
I hope the new fad will be van tuning, lol.

We all need enormous pink vans with seven-foot long exhausts that stick up in the air and huge airbrush art of Ayumi Hamasaki on the side, hahaha.

Phlip
03-31-2005, 07:58 AM
People here used to do shit to Chevy Astro/GMC Safari vans all the time back when I was in high school

amolao
03-31-2005, 08:03 AM
The 240SX craze will never die, is another classic like the 510 and the z models....

AlligatorBling
03-31-2005, 08:04 AM
People here used to do shit to Chevy Astro/GMC Safari vans all the time back when I was in high school

^350 with a 4 barrel in a astro

420sx
03-31-2005, 08:06 AM
^^ yea a twin turbo t78 astro van. or a school bus. hah

Antihero983
03-31-2005, 08:10 AM
i hope so.

if one more kid asks me if i drift, i swear im gonna tweak.

but seriously, its hard to say, i mean ive noticed an increasing amount of 240's in the ricer mags (super street, import tuner) and alot of younger kids read em, so until they move on to the "next big thing" (like SS always does) i think itll be a big thing, but for how much long i have no idea. and if and when F&F 3 comes out and has drifting all over the place in it, im sure itll cause the 240 fad to boom a little bit more......

....but on a good note, i hope that all this attention will get companies to start doing more R&D with the KA motors, seeing as SRs are going to be few and far between, even more so than they are now.

but as with every fad, itll fade and the only ones left will be the serious ones, those who dont look to the media for what to do next, and those who actually get why this car is damned awesome.

i hope the next fad is time attack.

but yeah, just my opinion, and i got out of work, so im writing this while insanely tired and please forgive any horrid misspells.

turtl631
03-31-2005, 10:03 AM
so at what time period month/year do you have to have had your 240 already to be considered NOT on the bandwagon? 1 year ago? 2? 3?

It doesnt matter when you buy the damn car, its your intentions. I just got my car last May but it had nothing to do with the drifting trend or any of that. The 240SX is a relatively cheap, light RWD coupe that looks pretty good and has many options to make power. They're not expensive to work on and they have nice balance and a pretty good suspension design. Out of the other FR Japanese cars, RX7s are expensive and more difficult to maintain, supras are really expensive, MR2s are tiny and have snap oversteer issues, etc. And Honda and Mitsubishi are too busy making wrong wheel drive cars. When it comes down to it, the 240 is a great first project/sporty car....whether you want to get into autoX, road courses, drifting, drag, or just have a fun street car.

boosteds13
03-31-2005, 11:00 AM
^^^^^^ I agree.

I only recently got mine as well. But, I have been researching them for about 4 years before I got one. Ever since I sold my Z32 back in 2001, I wanted to get one. But college, a kid, basically life...put it off for me. Now that I am older, I can appreciate it more anyway. You can utilize the car a number of ways, whether it be road racing, drag racing, autocross, or even the blasphemous DRIFTING. Maybe I just appreciate it more because I am older and was into cars way before F&F was even conceptualized. What I do know is that I don't care how many "ricers" get them as mine will still look classy. I live by the "form following function" method.

Pank
03-31-2005, 11:18 AM
I hope the new fad will be van tuning, lol.

We all need enormous pink vans with seven-foot long exhausts that stick up in the air and huge airbrush art of Ayumi Hamasaki on the side, hahaha.

oh hell yeah, i'm already all over this, check out my Vanda Trueno:

http://www.fuckyouanddie.com/pics/74073078.jpg
http://www.fuckyouanddie.com/pics/53878215.jpg


I'll be selling this for 20 grand when the next FF movie comes out, prominently featuring the Toyota Previa.

noodl35
03-31-2005, 11:30 AM
I don't know why you guys would wish for the fad to die out. I mean cmon, i want it to grow! I want it to grow as big as it has in japan. We can start seeing this shit on espn,tv..etc THe more bigger the market is, the more aftermarket part support for our engines,cars is. Look at honda, hondas are huge here, thats why there are so many american companies building bad ass parts for them. Hopefully when "drifting" or the japanese rwd scene gets bigger, we can buy parts for a cheaper price with better quality than having to spend $600 on cams or $1000 on a crappy cracking hks manifold. Point is, the more support for our scene the more parts being made in america that are cheaper and better quality. (eg. for hondas, jg eldebrock manifolds, blox cams,blox manifolds). But we are getting better, companies like blox which is identical to skunk2 are making cams for the sr..good quality at a cheap cheap cheap price.

AlligatorBling
03-31-2005, 03:49 PM
if one more kid asks me if i drift, i swear im gonna tweak.I was at the carwash not long ago and this guy came up to me and was like "I bet you do some serious drifting in that dont you?" I just had to laugh, i said yeah man i drift all the time, even on the way to work.

SochBAT
03-31-2005, 04:13 PM
I honestly hope those bangwagon jumpers jump onto the next one, off a cliff. Those bastards fluxuated our market, jumped prices on everything! Bastards i tell ya. Rich kid that like playing in the dirt. Thats an understatement. I hope the next fad/trend would change to gas economy. All those ricers that love imports will already be leaps and bounds before us. They'll b gas efficient kings, and we'll be gas guzzling monsters. Anyone heard of TougeFriends? I guess one of them raced me down a certain canyon, and obviously "won." With all that dirt and loose gravel, top it off with water on the roads, i wouldn't wanna try to have my car kiss another boulder. Personally, i dislike gripping. its jsut another hyped up version of "who has the most cash to fix their cars and who can go faster". I think we should run a few ricers off the canyons. Who drifts with stock ride height, altezzas and neons?

420sx
03-31-2005, 04:48 PM
Personally, i dislike gripping. its jsut another hyped up version of "who has the most cash to fix their cars and who can go faster".

wow you really went well with that one, just go ahead and call every autocrosser, roadracer, rally racer and drag racer a ricer. you are just broke and hate that some other people work, make money and dump them into the car.

Woodrow
03-31-2005, 06:23 PM
Hey I just got a 240 last year, but I don't really think I "hopped on the bandwagon". I've liked/wanted a 240 for the past 4 or 5 years, but never had the cash to buy one.... I wish I took out a loan or something because they were a lot cheaper back then but oh well... I'm happy I got one and I'll probably be keeping it for quite a long time, and when it dies I'm definately getting another Nissan :)

Chernobyl
03-31-2005, 09:42 PM
this thread = :blah:

our cars are popular. get over it.

I sold my S14 last summer and drove around in an old Jetta for a while. Checked out the euro stuff and realized its just not me. I feel most at home in a RWD japanese coupe. So I sold the Jetta. And since 240 and rx7 are pretty much my only options (and I already own a project FC), I got another 240.

240 is popular because there aren't many competitors in its class. For anyone who wants a RWD coupe to throw around, there just aren't many options.

so :blah: away, but you're not changing anything. people will still buy youre beloved "sports" cars.

SochBAT
03-31-2005, 10:49 PM
Lemme rephrase that. AutoX, rally, etc etc are great sports to watch. these grippers that im talkin bout but any FF car, and start thinkin they are the king of the canyon. They don't know tail from head on their cars, just how to hold down that gas pedal. They "beat a soup'd 240 on the downhill" yet, know nothing of understeer. Slightly better?

S14DB
03-31-2005, 10:51 PM
I read in Import Tuner today that VIP style is the way to go. Then I put it back on the rack.

SimpleS14
04-01-2005, 12:02 AM
VIP will be the next fad. I also think hatchbacks and slick coupes....a.k.a "sport compacts" will be the next trend. With the Scion tC starting the trend, the new Civic will follow. So will Nissan...hints can be seen in its HOT Sport Concept...

http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/nissan/2005/nsc-hatch/photos/001.jpg

Also the Azeal concept...but that's OK.

Every time I see that chick ^ ...I stare at her huge tats for at least 2 minutes. Shes cute.

That sig is pretty damn annoying after awhile....sorry...but I had to say it.

s13dan
04-01-2005, 12:09 AM
well i had my first S13 before the "fad" and i will definetly have mine after... Cool if my parts get cheaper though..

sideviewcivic
04-01-2005, 12:35 AM
personally im liking the R&D side of this fad. companies like peak performance and pdm-racing are producing serious product for KAs and our cars and we don't have to pay "from japan" prices. look at SPL parts and there arms and suspension pieces. As far as the fad goes, I hate it for the wrong attention it brings us, in regards to theft, attemted theft, and vandalization, and the jump in prices to pick up a spare chassis or to use as a beater car.

sw20>>s14
04-01-2005, 01:28 AM
I read in Import Tuner today that VIP style is the way to go. Then I put it back on the rack.

VIP? dont tell me they are gonna ruin VIP now...wtf were you doing reading that shit anyways...

With the Scion tC starting the trend, the new Civic will follow. So will Nissan...hints can be seen in its HOT Sport Concept...

btw, has anybody seen that new scion commercial yet?

"yeah, the back wheels are bigger and line up with the rear more. carbon fiber hood, slick this, awsome that... :blah: " dood, me and my gf were :rofl:

JaeTea
04-01-2005, 01:25 PM
VIP will be the next fad.

Yep it will be. Trust me. Start investing in chrome rim companies now. :ghey:

The drifting "fad" is far from over, Formula D has a contract with G4TechTV, and with the new Hard Drive event the media is gonna cram more drifting down people's throats.

I could care less as long as it creates more events and maybe even schools for the sport like they have for track racing and novice auto-x classes.

91CRXsiR
04-01-2005, 01:35 PM
its like nascar ppl love the crashes hahah

Saisoku
04-01-2005, 02:35 PM
Believe it or not... the 240sx fad has not hit this area of NC. In fact I was thinking about the very subject a few months ago. Yes the 240sx has become imensely popular in the US, but you would not know that in this town. We have a huge sport compact community, but there are only a handful nissan tuners. Notice I said Nissan tuners because there are so few that I have to include the SER, 240sx, 300z, 350z to come up with maybe 20 or so cars.

JRTurbo909
04-04-2005, 10:01 PM
i heard the next fast and the furious is all about drifting. keep the bandwagon rolling. haha

evanl85
04-04-2005, 10:21 PM
Wait until Initial D televises in the US, THEN there will be a 240 fad.

m0rex
04-04-2005, 11:31 PM
Wtf if Initial D was to get televised the ae86 will go up in value and will be made into a classic car thats worth more than 6 g's. Then kids will see all these r32 and wonder what they are so they cant buy that and when they see s13 they'll be my neighbor has one. For s14 i think they are only in 2 episodes and they suck.

Initial D has already affected some people that dont even watch it. Last week i went to this big arcade and the Initial D game was full and i was like lwtf do they even know what has a turbo and what dosent. Some kids spent hundreds of bucks there and dont even know shit... theres this kid who has a Hacki-Roku and i see them there a lot and one day he pulled up to my s14 and said "nice car" then i realized that he was driving a newer Corolla and said to my self "he probaby thinks its better because its newer" and laughed at him when he sped off trying to drift a parking lot corner.

AlligatorBling
04-04-2005, 11:46 PM
Wtf if Initial D was to get televised the ae86 will go up in value and will be made into a classic car thats worth more than 6 g's.

i can see that happening in the near future. in a way its starting to now and has been actually.... JUMP ON QUICK.... You know, i could make some serious cash.... ima start collecting AE parts.

evanl85
04-04-2005, 11:55 PM
The first few episodes show a lot of Iketani's S13, and also the Sil-eighty episodes are sure to be popular...

TheSnail
04-05-2005, 12:09 AM
I'm going with the Pulsar. I want to experience all the decent Nissans. Maybe it will be the next fad, maybe it wont. I just want to see the look on Vette/Viper driver's face as they think they are racing a riced out vw Golf. :)

XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX
04-05-2005, 12:32 AM
AMEN!!!

I think we all should mainstream togue too, show all the ricers the "best" places *the ones that has them nice skidmarks off the cliff* and let natural selection take its course. Drifting just wont weed em fast enough or keep em down long enough.


PS: another idea is for us to spread the word that rotaries are the shiet and that RX7s *specially the FCs* that they are so much more superior, reliable and easier to work with that 240sx with their KA, CA or SR.


i wanted to do that. i want to buy a fd but its too damn expensive. thats y 240 was my second choice. but it took me a year to find this car. and if the "ricers" go to the touge nd fall off, nd all the cops show up there, then wat

blu808
04-05-2005, 12:56 AM
I think vip could be the next fad, but it is too expensive for the ricers, and all we will see is civics, and 240s with expensive wheels and candy paint.

Personally I hope the drifting fad dies and all the ricers die with it. Im sooo tired of going to drift events and seeing all these newbs that have an attitude, think the're hot crap, talk smack on the boards, then go out on the track and suck ass.

Not hating on newbs, just smack talkin ricers, that if my mom went to the store and viewed some "drifters" in the parking lot she would think they are a bunch off ghetto ricers.

What ever happened to the grassroots motorsport of drifting?

2fourDsx
04-05-2005, 01:35 AM
What will happen is the ricers wont be able to afford the 98+ GS400 or the BMW's so they'll get Acura Legends or ES300's and throw the bling on. I wanted a kouki S14 since I was 16 before drifting was super MAd JDm TyTe yo. Now I'm 19 and I have it and I'm constantly bugged by everyone with the drifting and SR questions. All I gotta say is its auto and they leave me alone :rawk:

2fourDsx

mmdb
04-05-2005, 01:41 AM
you'll know it's over when you hear little kids at drift events say, "i'm so over that...". For example I heard this ricer kid at an Apexi stands say, "psh, Apexi. I'm so over them."

Besides to say 240sx is a fad is kind of misleading. I say this because the 240sx is a rwd car, and there isn't many cars around our price range that can be had like that (miata?). Also the turbo is a plus for performance. Ultimately, I'd rather fish tale through a corner rather than push into it (understeer, fwd).

SimpleSexy180
04-05-2005, 01:50 AM
^ EXACTLY. Its like stop bitching that other people are into the trend. ALL you have to do say "show me what you got".

ZK
04-05-2005, 10:43 AM
Lemme rephrase that. AutoX, rally, etc etc are great sports to watch. these grippers that im talkin bout but any FF car, and start thinkin they are the king of the canyon. They don't know tail from head on their cars, just how to hold down that gas pedal. They "beat a soup'd 240 on the downhill" yet, know nothing of understeer. Slightly better?

Huh? That makes no sense. FF cars do understeer and they are easier to drive fast in grip driving. FF and AWD own on tight twisties because they are able to get on the gas so much faster and don't have to worry about the rear getting loose.

And what, just because you have a 240, you need to drift? Racing on public roads is dangerous and stupid. Keep it off the streets, the more "touge" you do, the more police attention it attracts on everyone.

m0rex
04-05-2005, 01:04 PM
Fo sho' once you say auto they just go wtf and leave before seeing my car. Then they leave me alone about the drifting and sr questions. Too bad the last one who owned my s14 put some jdm tyte wing and jdm tyte enkeis with some jdm tyte aero. Otherwise that auto question would fall through but all it does is make people ask more questions like if i can drift with an auto.

SR240DET
04-05-2005, 03:50 PM
when i go to the mall to get a pretzel with my girl.... random kids smoking cigarettes out side the door that leads to the arcade come up to me and ask.. "does your silvia have turbo?"

MikeFD3S
04-05-2005, 06:19 PM
I think if you drive any RWD japanese car these days people are going to ask ' dude do you drift it? '

A lot of the wannabe Honda fans jumped ship to the RWD platform, thats why you see a lot of pseudo-informed people on the forums these days. The true Honda fans are still around, and they have even grown in numbers and are extremely knowledgeable on the true inner workings of their cars. The bandwagon-extreme-lifestyle-posers will leave, but the 240SX will always have its core fanbase.

After I got my SC300 recently, everyone was asking if I was going to drift it and throw on vertex kits ??? I've wanted that car since like '97, but could never find a good 5sp. I just want to cruise it...it's a classic car and too rare to simply trash with tail out jackassery. I think this whole thing is more of a RWD / Drift fad than simply a 240SX fad.

I ran into a super beat up primer zenki 240sx coupe when i went for a nice spirited daytime canyon drive this weekend and they asked the same thing. They had some crazy damage on their car and seemed really ansy on going balls to the wall. They kept pace for a little while but then turned around...240sx attracts weird people

NI_YON_Zenki
04-05-2005, 06:31 PM
I'm damn glad all the hype is leanin' back, now maybe the true enthusiasts will prevail. . . . .Untill we get tired. . . although I would love to have more room to (play) around with in the back. . .that touareg isn't loking to bad sitting on some OZ's

hkspeed
04-05-2005, 07:30 PM
The live action Initial D movie will be out sometime this year. That will probably strengthen the drifting craze.

In California, people are getting tired of dealing with emissions hassles. So the new trend seems to be emphasizing looks over performance (minimal body kit, jdm everything). VIP styling and Scions are good examples. Those people who want performance (what car guy doesnt) will still be attracted to cheap rwd cars like the s13/ae86.

SochBAT
04-05-2005, 11:04 PM
Knowing the grand F&F3 is coming out, im hoping all the ricers start talking shit about it like "all the cool kids." now if we just pretend we wanna start VIP, they'll do it too! I really hope Vin Diesel or whoever throws NO2 on his car. Every ricer and their moms will do it, squeeze while tryin to drift, and run into a boulder/guardrail/whale. We can only cross our fingers.

hkspeed
04-06-2005, 12:12 AM
Knowing the grand F&F3 is coming out, im hoping all the ricers start talking shit about it like "all the cool kids." now if we just pretend we wanna start VIP, they'll do it too! I really hope Vin Diesel or whoever throws NO2 on his car. Every ricer and their moms will do it, squeeze while tryin to drift, and run into a boulder/guardrail/whale. We can only cross our fingers.

does kazama (whatever his name is, that dude in the green kei office s15 in D1) use nos when he drifts? i remember seeing something about it on an option dvd

my240iguanas
04-06-2005, 09:49 PM
ANyone else noticed an increase in motorcycles in your area??

HyperTek
04-06-2005, 10:24 PM
man i used to be all "fawk the bandwagon!!!" .... now i dont care... if I can get somewhere from it, socal drift events is the place to be!! soo much potential to get somewhere, and possibly be an entry door to auto racing. Not saying the 240sx is the best car, but there are other rwd chassis that are in teh range and have just the same amount of potential... rx7, supra, starion, 300zx, miata, m30 etc... yet some may need alot more fabrication since parts dont exist.

KyoLo
04-06-2005, 11:57 PM
They stop producing 240sx in America, so they become classic. Limited amount of kouki S14s can be FAD in the future, but there are still some to many S13 and zenki S14 around. So i guess is it won't die out in next few years. Also the rarer 240sxs are, the more people want THEM!! It's human nature. We still want something we can't get, even it's after few years.

The ROMAN
04-07-2005, 10:44 AM
Yeah when I bought my car I had no idea I'd be getting all this attention from every kid I run into. I've always been RWD though. I think if I totaled my 240 I'd just get another Firebird. Then people could go back to callin me a hick, redneck, whatever.

s14sILV
04-07-2005, 09:57 PM
I would never give up my s14. My first car and planing to keep it for a long time. Be like those guys now who drive those american "mg" or what ever u call em. People have had them for like 30+ years and still love em. Planing to do the same. dont go along with what other people are driving, drive what you like.