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bosozoku.s14
03-23-2005, 03:17 AM
heres the story:

i took my friend to a body shop pick up his integra...since he got in accident a month ago. and he had the shop to do a JDM front end conversion.

when we were on the way home i was driving slowly around 60mph, after two exits, i didnt see my friend behind me and i looked around to see if he was passing me...but nothing. so i called him up, he told me he lost control and crashed the car...when i drove back to the scene, his car was facing the incoming traffic on the freeway, he spun out and hit the center divider on the freeway. the whole new jdm front end is gone, air bags popped out. this happened 10 mins after we left that bodyshop.

my friend explained everything to me how that happened:
all of a sudden the rpm keep going up, he tried to brake but the car keep going faster and faster. he pull the e-brake and hit the center divider.

anybody know what could cause that problem? (car rev up by itself)
is that possible he could file a lawsuit against the bodyshop?
if so, what kind of lawyer should we try to contact?

any help would be highly appreciated.
thank you so much for your time

Teddy

Andrew Bohan
03-23-2005, 03:20 AM
throttle got stuck open

atom
03-23-2005, 03:40 AM
How'd he hit the center divider? I'm guessing he panicked and hit the e-brake before he cut the ignition?

But yeah you can't really blame an autobody shop for a stuck throttle.

citizen
03-23-2005, 04:04 AM
unless they bonbo'd the tb open that is lol~

WhiteNissanS13
03-23-2005, 04:05 AM
why didnt he just turn the car off?

420sx
03-23-2005, 06:42 AM
because he was driving an integra with jdm front end.

Phlip
03-23-2005, 06:57 AM
why didnt he just turn the car off?
Because all rational thought in his brain was clouded by the uber tyte JDM-ness of his new front end and it seemed like a better idea to pull the ebrake instead of turning the fucking key off. Without people like this, we would HAVE no Darwin awards, they're necessary.

KOUKI KA-T
03-23-2005, 07:10 AM
Reminds me of that episode of "Rescue 911" they used to play every month way back in the day. where the same thing happened to some dumb bitch in a jetta, she called 911 and they were trying to tell her to turn the car off... she just kept screaming, almost ran over some people in the breakdown lane then kept dodging cars and accelerating up to 90mph until she jumped the median and hit a truck on the other side.... she lived though so she only gets an Honarable Mention....

bosozoku.s14
03-23-2005, 09:37 AM
:wtf:
theres nothing to do with the jdm or integra ok?
he almost hit the car in front of him thats why he pull the e-brake...but honestly though, this might be avoidable by clutch in and shut off ignition...

Thing is accident already happened it's not gonna help if we just keep blaming on him, he needs help guys...

michael1284
03-23-2005, 09:52 AM
needs help w/ what...throttle got stuck open....he panicked...did the wrong and VERY STUPID THING...did he really think that pulling the ebrake would just make him slow down?! he needs to learn how to drive a car, which would help him w/ his instincts. maybe all the money he spent on his JdM-TytE frontend he should of taken driving lessons 101.

s14alex
03-23-2005, 09:57 AM
Ummmm Why not hit the normal brake instead????

I dont know much about integras.... but my car stops a shitload better when i use the pedal than the ebrake.... must be a honda thing.

Ritz S14
03-23-2005, 10:05 AM
Ok enough jackasses.

Seriously, I hope you filed a police report stating you just got your car from the body shop. Once that happens, have someone investigate how your throttle got stuck..maybe the body shop had to alter the throttle cable for one reason or another, and didn't put it back on right. Who knows what really happenend. But since he JUST got his car back, and crashed it within probably 5miles of the body shop, the body shop should be held liable for what had happen. You'll have to talk to a laywer, or someone who has legal background to help you. I'm sure it shouldn't be a tuff case.. but I'm far from laywer status.

rps13sh
03-23-2005, 10:19 AM
if its not something with the throttle cable then check inside the throttle. might be something stuck inside like a piece of paper towel or something. either way, the integra guy should have popped it in neutral and stopped the car instead of ebraking on the highway.

Rezlo
03-23-2005, 10:24 AM
Or he was just driving far to fast and changing lanes and lost it, I dont know about his integra but all the ones ive drivin have pretty good brakes and will definaly slow down extreemly fast if you mash the brake while the gas is open, its one of those benefits of having no TQ.

If you try to start a lawsuit it will probably land up getting thrown out because of driver neglegence, and if it actualy whas his fault and he was doing somthing stupid and somone saw him and reported a different story to his he can get into serious trouble or go to jail for it.

Yes it realy does suck if the throttle realy did get stuck, but he should have known to put it in neutral and turn the key to the off position.
If he made that up to cover loosing control while driving wrecklessly and somone else reports it he isnt going to be to happy.

rms13kid
03-23-2005, 10:26 AM
strange... how long has he used stick? it's only natural instinct to press in the clutch if your car doesn't stop. that alone would've allowed the "normal" brakes to take effect.

Well, my condolences to your friend there... that does suck. especially since it was right after getting it fixed. Jus hoping he learns from that and knows what to do the next time something like that happens.

MakotoS13
03-23-2005, 10:37 AM
5spd solution:

press clutch in, coast off road, kill ignition

auto solution:

put in nuetral, coast off road, kill ignition





DISASTER AVERTED.

nismo2491
03-23-2005, 10:58 AM
yeah I'm with the people saying he was probably driving like an ass and lost control. if he was behind you why didn't he pass you when his car all of a sudden started revving up and wouldn't slow down.

SimpleS14
03-23-2005, 12:13 PM
I guess your friend paniced and was not thinking straight at all. He really doesn't have a case with the body shop, since he was suppose to inspect the car and sign it out saying everything is "ok". Also...why didn't he just put the car in neutral? Is his car automatic? I had the same ish happen to my bro's old civic. I hear there is a glitch with some Honda auto transmissions.

atom
03-23-2005, 12:55 PM
5spd solution:

press clutch in, coast off road, kill ignition

auto solution:

put in nuetral, coast off road, kill ignition





DISASTER AVERTED.

What the hell? Um, no. If you pop your car into neutral then you just end up overrevving your engine. All you should do is cut the ignition, flash your hazards, then get the F off the road.

EH9
03-23-2005, 01:09 PM
If you leave the car in gear while turning it off, won't the engine stop and stop the gears? I don't see why they'd free-wheel to get off the road. First thing, stop the engine from transmitting power to the ground, get it the fuck out of gear. Then be a nancy boy and bash your mad tyte R into the wall. Then blame someone else for your being a shitty driver.

MakotoS13
03-23-2005, 01:35 PM
What the hell? Um, no. If you pop your car into neutral then you just end up overrevving your engine. All you should do is cut the ignition, flash your hazards, then get the F off the road.

lets see:

worst case scenario is we replace a motor because it overrevved while i was safely directing my car off a major highway

OR

worst case scenario is i die because i tried to stop my car at 90mph with the Ebrake...

OR

this whole conversation is about some kid that lied about him losing control of a FWD car that is pretty known for being stable.

defensive driving is taking care of YOURSELF and OTHER DRIVERS... not necessarilly your car.

were you born this stupid or were you subjected to serious headtrauma as a child?

atom
03-23-2005, 01:51 PM
lets see:

worst case scenario is we replace a motor because it overrevved while i was safely directing my car off a major highway

OR

worst case scenario is i die because i tried to stop my car at 90mph with the Ebrake...

OR

this whole conversation is about some kid that lied about him losing control of a FWD car that is pretty known for being stable.

defensive driving is taking care of YOURSELF and OTHER DRIVERS... not necessarilly your car.

were you born this stupid or were you subjected to serious headtrauma as a child?

So what you're saying is you can't possibly drive safely off the road with the engine off? Then maybe you should turn in your fucking license.

Grip Gambler
03-23-2005, 01:54 PM
fuckin v-tech :bite:

aznpoopy
03-23-2005, 02:02 PM
guess he panicked.

it's going to be difficult to make the case against the body shop. his word vs. theirs. in the end he's probably going to get screwed over and have to eat the cost.

infinitexsound
03-23-2005, 02:24 PM
body shops never mess with wiring, unless wiring is involved... as for having the throttle stuck open thats kinda hard... check whats up with it either the cable or if something is jammed in there.... check how they wired the lights.. if it they tampered with unneccessary wires then thats a possibility. he should of cut the ignition and drove it off the road to the side... and never should of pulled the ebrake cause honda drivers dont know how to use it... sorry man for ur friend ..

Slyce
03-23-2005, 02:42 PM
It's easy to think of things that you would have done different while you're sitting in front of a computer. He probably panicked and just didn't think about turning the ignition off. I'm sure it happened pretty fast.

ThatGuy
03-23-2005, 02:44 PM
I'm sure it happened pretty fast.

It was a Honda, it couldn't have been that fast. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:








Sorry couldn't resist. Glad the guy was okay.

MakotoS13
03-23-2005, 02:59 PM
So what you're saying is you can't possibly drive safely off the road with the engine off? Then maybe you should turn in your fucking license.

of course not. i thought what i said was pretty clear without in any way implying that it was impossible to steer a car that wasn't running off of the road.

HOWEVER, it would be easier to steer and completely natural to put the car out of gear or engage the clutch. it isn't gonna rev to 13K rpms, thats what rev limiters are for.

what would i do? engage clutch, get the hell off the road, try to pry up the pedal from the floor with my foot. all of this would take like 10 seconds tops.

DIFFERENCE in tactic does not in any way state that any other scenario is impossible. you're ASSuming, don't get your panties in a bunch.

justinhustle
03-23-2005, 03:27 PM
this topic is as retarted as someone thinking a shop would bondo a throttle open

those damn type r's, so damn fast you cant even brake

he should put a parachute on the back next time, cuz he had one stickah too many :D

o5i2
03-23-2005, 03:40 PM
kinda OT, but was it raining or wet out? i would imagine it being kinda hard to spin out with a FF... not too sure tho.

Sil Beer S13
03-23-2005, 03:46 PM
This is getting funny.

aznpoopy
03-23-2005, 04:21 PM
kinda OT, but was it raining or wet out? i would imagine it being kinda hard to spin out with a FF... not too sure tho.

he pulled the handbrake. probably jerked the wheel one way or another and that was that.

FF can spin easily... i've seen more then a few itR's spin out at HPDE. off-throttle during a hard turn and bam, the rear goes out.

o5i2
03-23-2005, 04:32 PM
he pulled the handbrake. probably jerked the wheel one way or another and that was that.

FF can spin easily... i've seen more then a few itR's spin out at HPDE. off-throttle during a hard turn and bam, the rear goes out.

that makes sense. the reason i asked was because one time i saw some dude yank his ebrake on the highway in a civic sedan and the rear wheels just basically locked and he kinda skid forward without spinning out, but it was dry out. and also its been raining in the bay area recently.

kay_arsen
03-23-2005, 05:43 PM
5spd solution:

press clutch in, coast off road, kill ignition

auto solution:

put in nuetral, coast off road, kill ignition





DISASTER AVERTED.


for real thats the smartest thing to do so why atom are u arguing with him would u rather crash your car cause u didnt want to over rev a bit and risk killing your self and others or just risk over reving your engine a bit which u would turn off the ignition once your near safety and coast to the side.

nissantuner22
03-23-2005, 05:47 PM
my car was revving up by itself one time. Than I realized my foot was asleep on the gas pedal.

TheTimanator
03-23-2005, 06:25 PM
So what you're saying is you can't possibly drive safely off the road with the engine off? Then maybe you should turn in your fucking license.
when you turn the car off you'll lose power steering, and power brakes making it much harder to control and stop the car. Also, you gotta be careful when you shut the car off b/c the sterring wheel can lock (i think it stays unlocked in acc)

I've had my throttle get stuck before. I just pushed the clutch in, pulled over, came to a stop and shut the car off.

WhiteNissanS13
03-23-2005, 07:11 PM
yeah you lose your power steering, but im sure steering is still very easy at 90MPH! not having power steering is only difficult when your gonna turn from a complete stop. all he had to do was clutch in, power off, when fully off put back at "on" so steering wheel isnt locked, pull over and use the REGULAR brake.

atom
03-23-2005, 07:23 PM
when you turn the car off you'll lose power steering, and power brakes making it much harder to control and stop the car. Also, you gotta be careful when you shut the car off b/c the sterring wheel can lock (i think it stays unlocked in acc)

I've had my throttle get stuck before. I just pushed the clutch in, pulled over, came to a stop and shut the car off.

You really think on a small, light car like a teggy or 240 that you need power brakes or steering? These are cars that some people permanantely disable PS in. Unless I'm about to run off a cliff I can stop and slow down without power brakes as well. This ain't a H2.

If my DAD can maneuver a Maxima from the fast lane to the shoulder without PS or PBrakes in the middle of Bay Area traffic anyone can do it. But hey, maybe I'm wrong........

Rezlo
03-23-2005, 07:26 PM
Talk about messed, up,

I replied to this thread last night and on my way to work im pulling out of the gas station in 2nd and I deside to take a gap, so i drop the pedal to the floor light it up real hard then let off to slow down for the cars infront of me and as true as god the cable adapter i use to extend it to the blower got jammed, tranny auto shifts hard into 3rd (tires doing about 90mph) im doing like 30, punched brake as hard as i could and jabed the gas pedal hard and it released,

Pitty when u run a car with a blown V6 at 18psi you realy dont wanna turn the key off at WOT especialy when the ignition is stand alone so it will just cut fuel,

Could have been kinda shitty but it was simply avoided by comon sence, had it not released i would have simply clicked it into neutral shut it down.

For those of you that dont know i drive a bit of a freek sleeper aside from my S14
http://www.rezlo.com/Pages/Cirrus/6g72%20%20new.JPG
Not many people expect a little dodge stratus to be packing 450whp

zeek
03-23-2005, 08:00 PM
WTF dodge stratus? They make body kits for those? Anyway what a dumbass on the integra guy...

speeddreamz
03-23-2005, 08:41 PM
Who the fuck told yer friend to pull the ebrake? He should take some more driving lessons first, hes a retard for doing what he did. But.....anyhow i hope the guy is ok, ya live and ya learn.

Salty_X
03-23-2005, 09:31 PM
WTF dodge stratus? They make body kits for those? Anyway what a dumbass on the integra guy...
There's a whole fleet of neon-painted (or non-painted), kit'd, spoiler'd, muffler'd Stratuses (Strati?) around here... :down:

E-brake? I bet he was trying to drift! :eek3d:

Rezlo
03-24-2005, 12:06 AM
There's a whole fleet of neon-painted (or non-painted), kit'd, spoiler'd, muffler'd Stratuses (Strati?) around here... :down:

E-brake? I bet he was trying to drift! :eek3d:
Sad hey? never quite understood it, Ive been to one of their meet ups where they try do burn outs and do nothing but blow trannies from neutral dropping them, sad sad world, worse than honda's...

That bumper I have I made myself cause i couldnt fit the aftercooler in behind the stock one, front kinda gives it away a little, side and rear look stock

citizen
03-24-2005, 02:52 AM
if you turn the car off you also lose power brakes and power steering. it might be better just to put the clutch in and possibly "ruin" the motor (laugh, like hitting the rev limiter for 30 seconds is gonna blow it up) while coming to a safe stop.

bosozoku.s14
03-24-2005, 10:16 AM
thanks for those who tried to help...

those who tried to make fun.... :wackit:
please be considerate...driving a honda is not his fault and again my friend never drive like an ass i know that....


Moderator, please lock this thread since it's just wasting bandwidth for people to talk sh!t.

sykikchimp
03-24-2005, 12:03 PM
perfect example of why it should be refered to as "Parking brake" and not "Emergency Brake"

the head
03-24-2005, 12:50 PM
thanks for those who tried to help...

those who tried to make fun.... :wackit:
please be considerate...driving a honda is not his fault and again my friend never drive like an ass i know that....


Moderator, please lock this thread since it's just wasting bandwidth for people to talk sh!t.

when you leave the door open someone else is bound to close it

m0rex
03-24-2005, 02:22 PM
perfect example of why it should be refered to as "Parking brake" and not "Emergency Brake"

:mrmeph: :rofl: :bowrofl: never heard this one before.

Ian
03-24-2005, 03:30 PM
hand brake, parking brake, side brake YES

emergency brake NO


because in no way is it used in an emergency situation

citizen
03-24-2005, 03:51 PM
because in no way is it used in an emergency situation

except if you need to execute an emergency display of extreme yaw and lateral accelation! (i.e. drift)

Ian
03-24-2005, 04:46 PM
lmao, either that or if your brakes go out at at extremely low speed, or you have a huge amount of space to stop...

citizen
03-24-2005, 04:53 PM
actually the e-brake (slide stick) has one more very important use. when you're (i'm) speeding and i see a cop, slow down with the e-brake. that way there is no brake lights and you call less attention to yourself.

ThatGuy
03-24-2005, 04:53 PM
Moderator, please lock this thread since it's just wasting bandwidth for people to talk sh!t.


Ok, since you said please.