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goodjuan

03-17-2005, 01:13 AM

backseat, carpet, speakers, trunk/gas door release cable, seatbelt motors, seatbelt rails

don't cut out the rear shelf, find the spot welds and use a step sheet metal drill bit to drill them out. the shelf should just come right off after that.

Have you even started gutting the car? Once you start, everything should be pretty obvious.

Good Luck, and have fun using the key to open the trunk and pull the gas door release latch from now on.

reefer1114

03-17-2005, 01:57 AM

this is what i have done so far
http://multimedia.msjc.edu/mcasao/gut.JPG

BoroBoroS13

03-17-2005, 07:16 AM

Your gonna want to do the tar, that shit weighs a lot all together.

My coupe has no tar, no carpet, no power seat belts, and everything behind the front seats is gone (Like trim, seats, speakers, everything... lol). I replaced all that shit in the rear with a roll bar :)

I will try to remember to take some pix for you.

Macadoshus

03-17-2005, 07:29 AM

Yep the tar definitely weighs alot, if you take it out put it all in one trash bag and you will see. I am in the process of doing this to mine.

mr_240sx

03-17-2005, 09:13 AM

i was doing that to mine also, and it was taking a shit load of time to do, so i brought it to a friends shop and he had both of his co-op students remove it. It took them both all week to do it!!

BoroBoroS13

03-17-2005, 09:31 AM

Tar takes a lot of time but it pays off in the end if your serious about losing weight.

Ritz S14

03-17-2005, 09:37 AM

Here is my sorry attempt.. I quit working on the interior..and a friend of mine is helping me do the body work. My coupe is now 99% dingless. woohoo!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/smogtec/S13/646d254b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/smogtec/S13/aebba2b9.jpg

kilword1

03-17-2005, 09:37 AM

Tar takes a lot of time but it pays off in the end if your serious about losing weight.

Trimspa damn it! and i am serious! im a fatass well kinda.....maybe...well....no
heh
heard dry ice gets the tar out the easiest :2f2f:

BoroBoroS13

03-17-2005, 09:58 AM

Thats what I heard as well but I just used an air chisel and some solvent to clean up the left overs. Theres some light out so I guess I will take some pix right quick lol.

Rusker

03-17-2005, 10:21 AM

Has anyone actually weighed the tar when it's removed? It's be interesting to know.

BoroBoroS13

03-17-2005, 10:40 AM

As I can remember its more that 50lb's but I didnt weigh it. The rear has the most weight though so its a good idea to get rid of that shit. Heres some pix of mine

Trunk
http://dct223.home.comcast.net/boro/1.JPG

Rear
http://dct223.home.comcast.net/boro/2.JPG

Front
http://dct223.home.comcast.net/boro/3.JPG

Outside
http://dct223.home.comcast.net/boro/4.JPG

kazuo

03-17-2005, 01:10 PM

Try using dry ice to take the tar off.

I've heard it works quite well.

reefer1114

03-17-2005, 01:20 PM

thanks for posting up pics guys, where exactly do i get dry ice in socal anyone know?

sideviewcivic

03-17-2005, 01:21 PM

www.nissanperformancemag.com go through old articles and such. profiles mav1178s old coupe (RIP *tear*) from way back when. Has pics of the interior gutted, and with that cusco cage.

m0rex

03-17-2005, 01:23 PM

Theres a really nice white s13 with a rollcage and teh interior looks really clean all stripped down.

powerFC

03-17-2005, 01:30 PM

thanks for posting up pics guys, where exactly do i get dry ice in socal anyone know?

your local liquor store

HyperTek

03-17-2005, 01:39 PM

smellslikecurry

03-17-2005, 01:51 PM

when u strip your interior how much weight do you think your removing?

reefer1114

03-17-2005, 01:58 PM

www.nissanperformancemag.com go through old articles and such. profiles mav1178s old coupe (RIP *tear*) from way back when. Has pics of the interior gutted, and with that cusco cage.

do you have the actual link? because i searched the site and all i found were html coding. thanks

reefer1114

03-17-2005, 01:59 PM

when u strip your interior how much weight do you think your removing?

pretty sure you can lose 1-200 pounds easy and then around 300 if you take out everything thats not needed. or if im wrong correct me.

HyperTek

03-17-2005, 02:10 PM

like loosing wieght... shaving all your hair , and driving naked.. remove your headlights and just drive during the day time.. oh and the windshield wipers too =D

Mr_zero

03-17-2005, 02:17 PM

It depends on how far you are willing to go I think. There is a thread/link about this somewhere. 1-200lbs not that hard. PS remove, ac remove, heater core remove, carpet, rear seats, tar, spare tire, jack, auto windows, auto seatbelts,relocate battery...etc etc...

There is also some conversion (like 12.7lbs/1whp) or something like that. I started doing that stuff, but I dont know if it is really "worth" it to do all that stuff? I like speed/accel/balance like everyone else, but I also like super clean interior... so maybe I could just up the boost by 1psi for an equivalent 100lbs loss...

What do others think?

reefer1114

03-17-2005, 07:24 PM

im a dry ice noob. how exactly do i use this stuff to take off the tar? just leave on top of it till it melts or what?

S14DriftR

03-17-2005, 09:23 PM

hey so does anyone care about the wieght balance of thier cars??? I mean if you where serious about road racing... ever consider rocking ballast at different spots of teh car to even things out? or cuz these are street cars, no one really cares? From my understanding, you guys just made the front of your car the heaviest side of the car...

But who am I to say these things.. .my rear is half gutted too..

I guess u start shaving crap out the front too.. i removed the windshield washer resevor, sometimes removing the front bumper support.

Anyone who is serious enough to do extensive weight reduction most likely has nice dual adjustable coilovers, which means they can corner weight the car and adjust the spring preloads, with driver inside, with average amount of fuel in the tank, and acheive awesome weight balance.

sideviewcivic

03-17-2005, 10:03 PM

Anyone who is serious enough to do extensive weight reduction most likely has nice dual adjustable coilovers, which means they can corner weight the car and adjust the spring preloads, with driver inside, with average amount of fuel in the tank, and acheive awesome weight balance.

yes, and going to race shops and having your car corner-weighted is how to compensate for the changes in weight reduction. altho if you care about you exterior and such. do not remove bumper support, as the bumper will sag unless you weld on some brackets to hold up the bumper in key places. me personally im waiting for another dialy driver so I can remove everything. miscellaneous wiring, relocating fuseboxes to glovebox area. but as you commented on weight shifting. usually if you gut the car, a cage is soon to follow, and voila weight distribution is back in hand if you care so much about it. still, learn to drive with changes, it makes you more apt to deal with changes better.

sideviewcivic

03-17-2005, 10:04 PM

IIRC lindsay removed approx 30pounds from his front end by welding brackets to hold his pop-ups 24/7

mbs13

03-17-2005, 11:16 PM

im a dry ice noob. how exactly do i use this stuff to take off the tar? just leave on top of it till it melts or what?

Set the Dry Ice on top the tar and then chip it off. The Ice goes direct from solid to gas, not really a melting. Dont forget to handle with gloves. You'll also want to use it right away and have as little of the ice exposed to the air when your transporting it, you'll have it to use for longer that way. Bring a plastic bag to wrap in if its not already sealed. You can also get it at ice cream shops or some party supply stores.

(Science experiment for you when your done- Put a small piece of dry ice in a 1/4 full plastic bottle of water, put the cap on quick and toss it in the middle of your yard.)

mr_240sx

03-18-2005, 10:30 AM

(Science experiment for you when your done- Put a small piece of dry ice in a 1/4 full plastic bottle of water, put the cap on quick and toss it in the middle of your yard.)
are you sure this is safe??? lol

Andrew Bohan

03-18-2005, 12:44 PM

i saw that done with a 2-liter bottle. holy shizzle that was loud

michael1284

03-18-2005, 01:07 PM

you forgot to tell them to get the fuck outta the way

i can already see some kids tossing it into the middle of the yard...standing like 1 ft away...hrmm its fogging up....BOOOM

reefer1114

03-18-2005, 03:58 PM

got it off now whats the best way to get off the gunk thats left? what type of solvent or are there any other methods? its actually clener than the pic i havent vacuumed the crap off yet. haha my ass accidentally leaned my knee on a small piece of dry ass and now it stings like a biatch haha. :doh:
http://multimedia.msjc.edu/mcasao/gut3.JPG

ruthlesstyper

03-18-2005, 06:47 PM

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wNDk4NDE2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wNDk4NDE4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wNDk4NDIyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

reefer1114

03-18-2005, 08:46 PM

wow i wish i could afford that.

mr_240sx

03-18-2005, 08:52 PM

wow, thats a really clean car!!

kingsol

03-18-2005, 10:14 PM

mmm... zeta II

mr_240sx

03-19-2005, 12:43 AM

mmm... zeta II
zeta II???

ruthlesstyper

03-19-2005, 12:48 AM

zeta II???

it's the type of seat ...

infinitexsound

03-19-2005, 01:11 AM

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo dry ice for ppl who dont know.. and its not tar.................... its sound deadning............ just use a heat gun and a scraper .... a good scraper not ur dingy thin metal one but the really thick hard one with a sharp edge......... dry ice method is stupid in my opinion... doesnt work all the time... just heat it up and it will come off with ease... to clean the left over stuff run to ur local paint store and get some wax and grease remover and some red scotch pad.. and start scrubbin... use a rattle can the same color as ur car and spray away. to paint over the area u just worked on.. but yeah wanna make bombs hook up a air fittin into a soda bottle cap and screw it on the bottle tight... hook up the air hose to the fitting set the bottle as far away as possible and then u hook up the air line... BOOM! lol and u dont get dry ice from ice cream stores dude............ u get it from weldin supply shops... yeah dry ice can burn u.. lol i just burnt my self with the dry ice bomb we made the other day... didnt get it from the ice store .. got it from the brown guy who converted his bike to a little ice cream store..ahha no offense anyone..oh yeah u know its alot ffaster if u crush the dry ice before puttin it into a bottle..... ...theres more u can do to get rid of excess weight but theres no point if ur not racing in some serious events...IMO i mean its still a street car.. yada yada ppl have theyre reasons.. i know..
theres still alot to do like notching and remove some useless panels .. i know u guys are gonna get a roll cage right?!??!?!!??!

man a down draft spray booth thats HOT!!!!!! :eek2: :eek2:

Fastback180

03-19-2005, 07:52 AM

take out your dash and just leave your cluster.

mr_240sx

03-19-2005, 08:54 AM

ok makes sense..... i was a little tired when i wrote that lol.

reefer1114

03-19-2005, 07:24 PM

i used engine degreaser and everything seemed to melt off. im planning on painting the interior black anyways so sanding will probably get the rest off. ill keep you posted on my progress.
http://multimedia.msjc.edu/mcasao/DSC01937.JPG

WERDdabuilder

05-04-2005, 02:52 AM

after all the sound deadning stuff is out, how much louder does it make it?

s13gonwild

05-04-2005, 05:41 AM

^IMO not alot..but some people are panssys who think its loud....take your interior off and see if you can take it first, then move on to the tar.

mr_240sx

05-04-2005, 07:23 AM

I got some pics of my car being all gutted out.... but i cant seem to post the pics :-/

WERDdabuilder

05-04-2005, 04:52 PM

photobucket.com ^upload your pics there.

ThatGuy

05-04-2005, 04:55 PM

phototbucket.com SUCKS!!! Use www.ImageShack.us I've never had a bandwidth problem with them.

that180guy

05-04-2005, 06:36 PM

goo gone or paint thinner works best for the left over gunk. and the heat gun trick is bad asss. took me about 5-6hrs to do my truck and almost all my passenger seat.
oh yeah, all you fools who are "serious about racing" imagine how hot your tranny tunnel will get wen your smashing on the track at high revs for a good few hrs..........the deading at my feet and on my tranny tunnel, stay.

mr_240sx

05-04-2005, 09:16 PM

alright guys, i got some pics to show of my car from last saturday afternoon!!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/mr_240sx/PICT0051.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/mr_240sx/PICT0050.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/mr_240sx/PICT0049.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/mr_240sx/PICT0048.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/mr_240sx/PICT0047.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/mr_240sx/PICT0046.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/mr_240sx/PICT0045.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/mr_240sx/PICT0044.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/mr_240sx/PICT0043.jpg

hope you guys dont mind my poor picture taking skills :duh:

TheSnail

05-04-2005, 09:28 PM

Gutted to the 9.9th power, never got around to dryice it.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid163/pb9d0abda11aaae02302957ff01cf7883/f49eb92c.jpg

WERDdabuilder

05-05-2005, 12:33 AM

anyone that is running the autopower roll bar...how is the fitment on it? im most likely picking one up next week. i just want to make sure its nice a snug.

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Flybert

05-05-2005, 01:35 AM

As I can remember its more that 50lb's but I didnt weigh it. The rear has the most weight though so its a good idea to get rid of that shit. Heres some pix of mine

Nope, the sound deadening only weighs around 20 lbs total. See this page to know exactly how much everything weighs in an S13.

http://www.mysportscar.com/features/project240/weightsavings/index.htm

.

Carlwill

05-05-2005, 06:22 AM

Gutted to the 9.9th power, never got around to dryice it.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid163/pb9d0abda11aaae02302957ff01cf7883/f49eb92c.jpg

Is that a Recaro in the pic?

ThatGuy

05-05-2005, 07:10 AM

Nope, the sound deadening only weighs around 20 lbs total.

Hmmm, maybe I'll strip mine and replace it with 15 lbs. of dynamat. I've heard it works better then factory soundproofing with less of it. So I can be quieter and 5 lbs lighter. :D

JaeTea

05-05-2005, 08:53 AM

Gutted to the 9.9th power, never got around to dryice it.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid163/pb9d0abda11aaae02302957ff01cf7883/f49eb92c.jpg

That thing looks dangerous! :rofl:

krustindumm

05-05-2005, 09:54 AM

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo dry ice for ppl who dont know.. and its not tar....................i know u guys are gonna get a roll cage right?!??!?!!??!

:eek2:

I didn't know anyone could be so ignorant. :duh:

Ryno

05-05-2005, 11:27 AM

Is that a Recaro in the pic?

Yes, it is out of an Evo V or VI. It's for sale if you're interested.

2JZGTE

05-05-2005, 11:33 AM

That gutted white coupe is absolutely GORGEOUS :yum: Good job to whoever did it.

crioten

05-05-2005, 01:00 PM

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1516760

here for more on the white coupe :)

Steven

05-05-2005, 06:25 PM

mr_240sx what type of paint did u use? nice progress.

mr_240sx

05-05-2005, 06:49 PM

mr_240sx what type of paint did u use? nice progress.
the black paint that i used is called satin black. its in between of gloss black and flat black! this way it doesnt show little imperfections.

HyperTek

05-05-2005, 06:52 PM

did anyone ever spray paint thier interior after gutting?? just thinking as a poor alternative so i can change the color of my car and not bitch about the interior not matching..

mr_240sx

05-05-2005, 06:54 PM

did anyone ever spray paint thier interior after gutting?? just thinking as a poor alternative so i can change the color of my car and not bitch about the interior not matching..
have you looked at my pics that i posted???? it was spray painted black! i am keeping a few panels ( rear side panels) so i didnt bother painting there but i painted everything else that would show.