official conquest/starion wheels thread (56Kamikaze)

[MakotoS13]

okay after much debating i broke down and snagged some starion/conquest rims from the junkyard knowing full well that the rear offsets may be too low. if this belongs in tech just move it, i just figured lots of people might want this info.

alright so we have three different rims here. turbo'd varients supposedly come only with 16x8 and 16x9's (staggered) but the car i found had 7's and 8's like the NA models so this test only involves the 7 and 8 inch wide rims.

the pis speak for themselves.

16x7 on the rear might need a little pulling and at least fender rolling but they fit pretty perfectly flush.

http://www.makotoseven.com/240/level1/rims/star71.jpg
http://www.makotoseven.com/240/level1/rims/star72.jpg
http://www.makotoseven.com/240/level1/rims/star73.jpg

now, maybe the 16x9's would have a better offset (doubt it as they just have a higher offset adding rim to inside the wheel well). unless you add some fender by pulling or aftermarket bolt ons these suckers will look like crap.

http://www.makotoseven.com/240/level1/rims/star81.jpg
http://www.makotoseven.com/240/level1/rims/star82.jpg
http://www.makotoseven.com/240/level1/rims/star83.jpg

this is why i believe the 16x9's just have a higher offset. notice how a TON of rim can still fit back there.

http://www.makotoseven.com/240/level1/rims/clearance.jpg

here's a shot of a 7 and 8 side by side

http://www.makotoseven.com/240/level1/rims/topside278.jpg

if anybody has anything to add or ask for go for it.

i'm almost certainly gonna sell them but if i did keep em they'd look like this when i was done:

http://www.makotoseven.com/240/level1/rims/blackstar.jpg

[420sx]

yea but the starion wheels dont look good at all. save money dude, get good wheels

[HyperTek]

but your car is stock suspension... drop it.. fole/pull fender via bat... negative camber.. it will look totally different then just rim on a uncompressed suspension..

[MakotoS13]

i guess i won't sell em till i get coilovers and see what they look like when she's dropped. the cost of making them fit and cleaning them up is more than a good set of zigens with perfect offsets that wouldn't require any modification.

80% sure i'm gonna sell em

[Ritz S14]

Damn.. It doesn't look too bad. Too bad you didn't pull/roll your fenders before you painted your car.

[Equinox]

Just some clarification about the wheels. The earlier starions both turbo and NA came with 16x7 up front and 16x8 out back. The later model starions (88 and 89 i believe) had a factory option which included 16x8 up front and 16x9 out back. Note the offsets on the two 16x8s are not the same. If I recall correctly, the one that will best fit s13s are the FRONT 16x8s off the later models.

[Zemus]

Fronts 16x7 +16 some offset
Rear 16x8 -12 some offset
Front 16x8 +16 some offset
Rear 16x9 +/- 0 offset

All tight best would be 16x9s all around

[sciamop]

All Starquests were turbocharged. There were different suspension/trim/turbo packages though. Too bad those cars were such hand grenades...

Makato: Since you've done the 5 lug conversion, there should be a plethora of wheels that you can try to fit on your car: MKIII Supra 16x7 (91+ 5 stars) might be a good fit...

GL,
Todd
93 Coupe
91 SE-R
83 Starion (sold for $500 in 1992 -- blown LSD)

[MakotoS13]

yeah i knew it was a long shot but for soemone with the fender in back they'd be perfect. i'm sellin em and stickin with my SE's for now. i just wanted to see how they'd fit and i knew some people wanted the info as well.

after coilovers these are goin on the car:

http://www.5zigenusa.com/images/wheels/fn01rc_blkpol_600.jpg

mmmmm

[SilviaDriver]

you have ur car jacked up, there is no spring compression like stated above and no camber added which is why the rim looks like it sticks out too much

[Heartwork]

having your car in the air with those rims mounted with NO tires is an inaccurate way to measure how the'y'll fit

go throw some cheap used tires on then mount them on the car on the ground...

[DRO916]

heres a pic i took of someones car from last novembers us drift event
http://img216.exs.cx/img216/7553/dsc040832wn.jpg

[MakotoS13]

having your car in the air with those rims mounted with NO tires is an inaccurate way to measure how the'y'll fit

go throw some cheap used tires on then mount them on the car on the ground...

i refuse to believe that setting the car on the ground and lowering is going to bring in a rim almost 2 inches to where it can fit under a stock fender. the 7's will prolly fit really well but i'm selling them all as a set so that's a no go. i guess if no one wants them i'll just have 2 extra 16x8's waiting for the day i get more fender.

[Ritz S14]

What you could do to make the setup more realistic is to place teh jackstands under the LCA so your suspension is loaded.

[Heartwork]

i refuse to believe that setting the car on the ground and lowering is going to bring in a rim almost 2 inches to where it can fit under a stock fender. the 7's will prolly fit really well but i'm selling them all as a set so that's a no go. i guess if no one wants them i'll just have 2 extra 16x8's waiting for the day i get more fender.

it may not bring it in a whole 2 inches, but it will be way more precise into dialing in how much thick of a spacer, rolled fender, or camber you need...

i.e. do a search for SilviaDriver's post where he put 18x9.5 +22 on like you did. It stuck out literally about 1-1.5" outside the fender....then put tires on and sit it on the ground it fits easily....

[SilviaDriver]

it may not bring it in a whole 2 inches, but it will be way more precise into dialing in how much thick of a spacer, rolled fender, or camber you need...

i.e. do a search for SilviaDriver's post where he put 18x9.5 +22 on like you did. It stuck out literally about 1-1.5" outside the fender....then put tires on and sit it on the ground it fits easily....


http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=51899&page=1

there the link. pics are taken down you have to ask 95blue240sx for them.

[North240]

for an "official" thread you would think there might be pics of tires mounted and the car sitting on the ground?

[MakotoS13]

for an "official" thread you would think there might be pics of tires mounted and the car sitting on the ground?

mount some tires on em and have at it chuckles. i only made this post so that people in the future could have something to search for to get an idea of how conquest rims fit on an S13. i'm not mounting tires just for an experiment/the good of others.

i'm already in the process of selling the rims anyhow.

p.s. its official cause i said it is cause i got dibs first.

[Johny5]

i'll give you $350 and will come pick them up since you're such a girly man about good fitting wheels doug :D

[AadosX]

If anyone wants a set of these let me know... I have access to GOBS of them.

[email protected]

email only.

[Marty]

i actually think that your idea for painting them black with the silver lip looks quite good

[SimpleSexy180]

dude makato they look clean painted black and chrome lip. My homie had those on his ae86.

[stuntman240]

http://img65.exs.cx/img65/2289/83ec.jpg

Fronts: 16x7 +18 spaced out to -9 THEY WONT CLEAR Z BRAKES!!!

Rears: 16x9 +/- 0 no spacer

Tires were 205/55/16 all around.

16x8 -10 is 3mm inset from 16x9's

NO PULL JUST A ROLL

They came in the foloowing sizes:
16x7 +18
16x8 +18
16x8 -10
16x9 0

I have a pair of each but the 16x8 +18

Ill get more pics later.

[rancid240]

do any of the sizes clear Zbrakes? Specifically the 16x8 -18 and the 16x9 +/- 0

[raen419]

i would think the rear wouldn't be an issue.
but offset has nothing to do w/ wheel/brake clearance.
and that's +18, not -18.

[MakotoS13]

i would think the rear wouldn't be an issue.
but offset has nothing to do w/ wheel/brake clearance.
and that's +18, not -18.

it does because spacers can be used to alleviate any such clearance issues thus making the offset of the wheel important in relation to said spacing and in need of appropriate compensation.

[sr420det]

those are f***ing ugly

[wootwoot]

Try and find wheels with a decent offset for 50 bucks then come back and say those are ugly

[Grip Gambler]

they are good beater wheels, my friend just got 8 of them for dirt cheap, good to use during 5 lug conversion.

[KiDyNomiTe]

My 16x8s -10 on my friends car with 1 degree of camber, it'll be a tough fit on my car, but I run a lot more camber and the car hasnt settled yet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/kidynomite/DSC00159.jpg

[stuntman240]

THEY WONT CLEAR Z BRAKES!!!

That applies to all Satrion wheels. The 16x8 -10 and 16x9 0 dont need as much of a spacer as the 16x7 +18 and 16x8 +18 do.


http://img11.exs.cx/img11/9852/dsc004269ri.jpg
http://img217.exs.cx/img217/1499/dsc004290vg.jpg

couple more pics on the new car, rear camber is IDK -2ish front is alot, ~3.5 ish. Alginment has yet to be done and camber will be taken out, next step is to get a tire wider then 205 on the rear. FENDER PULLIN TIME!!!!!

[WanganRunner]

heres a pic i took of someones car from last novembers us drift event
http://img216.exs.cx/img216/7553/dsc040832wn.jpg

That looks hawt...

I didn't know they were 5-lug, these'd be good beater wheels for my S14.

How much work goes into getting the lip polished that well? What process is used?

[rancid240]

Polishing lips is cake. Im guessing they come clear coated, so if any of that is remaining you want to strip it. Then sand off knicks scratches etc and get at it with a polishing wheel and some polishing compound.

Is anyone running these with Z brakes? What size wheel + spacer + brakes (26mm or 30mm)

[raen419]

do these wheels clear stock brakes?
and how much do they weigh?
i love the styling, it's old school, but looks hot, imo, with the center of the spokes painted black and polishing the rest.

[stuntman240]

Is anyone running these with Z brakes? What size wheel + spacer + brakes (26mm or 30mm)


Go back and reread I posted exacly the spacer size and such.

[rancid240]

All I see is:
"That applies to all Satrion wheels. The 16x8 -10 and 16x9 0 dont need as much of a spacer as the 16x7 +18 and 16x8 +18 do.


Fronts: 16x7 +18 spaced out to -9 THEY WONT CLEAR Z BRAKES!!!"

So are those 30mm or 26mm zbrakes? Also the 16x8 +18 wont clear even after the spacer? What about rears? I am asking specifically what size spacers people are running to get the nicer sizes, the 16x8 negative offset and the 16x9 to clear.

[PureS-e-x]

I had to roll the fenders to get my 9's to work (starion) The starion was the last true widebody.....

=)

[stuntman240]

30mm

rears would need ~20mm spacer so figure 16x8 -30 or 16x9 -20 if you can fit them have fun.
fronts would need ~25/27mm spacer

[rancid240]

30mm

rears would need ~20mm spacer so figure 16x8 -30 or 16x9 -20 if you can fit them have fun.
fronts would need ~25/27mm spacer
wow, thats pretty rediculous.

[Brian W.]

Guys... you need to check out Mark @ www.starquestrims.com he polishes these wheels and even sells them prepolished or not. great guy to deal with... hes polished a bunch of wheels for me. Tell him Brian sent yah!

[ImpactBlue]

I just picked a pair up recently, and I love them powdercoated. Right now I'm driving an FC, so if I can clear them on the fronts, you should have no problems with the Z brakes.

I'll keep you all posted. (if you have any pics of them on an FC3S RX-7, it would be greatly appreciated if you posted them up for me.)
-M

edit: by pair I mean full set: 16x7 +16 (?), 16x8 -10

[wootwoot]

Sorry to bring this back up but I recently have an infatuation with finding cheap decent wheels off of stock cars. More sleeper factor maybe?? Makoto, did you happen to weigh any of these wheels before you got rid of them or anything like that?

[krustindumm]

[IMG]http://img65.exs.cx/img65/2289/83ec.jpg[IMG]

Fronts: 16x7 +18 spaced out to -9 THEY WONT CLEAR Z BRAKES!!!

Rears: 16x9 +/- 0 no spacer

Tires were 205/55/16 all around.

16x8 -10 is 3mm inset from 16x9's

NO PULL JUST A ROLL

They came in the foloowing sizes:
16x7 +18
16x8 +18
16x8 -10
16x9 0

I have a pair of each but the 16x8 +18

Ill get more pics later.

haha, my screen is too small. I saw the car and was like "hey! I know that car!!!" then i scrolled over and it was your car :p

[240trainee]

Guys... you need to check out Mark @ www.starquestrims.com he polishes these wheels and even sells them prepolished or not. great guy to deal with... hes polished a bunch of wheels for me. Tell him Brian sent yah!


Seriously, I guess it's regamasters you had on the front, those were freaking SWEET!!! I hate polish, I like my wheels to be black or gunmetal, but dang, those were amazing. I want some bling now :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

[KiDyNomiTe]

Sorry to bring this back up but I recently have an infatuation with finding cheap decent wheels off of stock cars. More sleeper factor maybe?? Makoto, did you happen to weigh any of these wheels before you got rid of them or anything like that?

The 16x7s weigh ~17 lbs, I'd weigh my 16x8s but they got some R210 compounds on em and that probably has no relevance to most.

[waitingroom]

simba's a gangsta with the starion wheels. I'm lookin for a pair for myself right now. 16x8 with 205 tread = cheap tires but still stiff sidewall.

[Phlip]

THIS THREAD IS 7 MONTHS OLD!!! Did you notice that before you added nothing to it?

... proof that the new people are searching, even if they aren't doing shit with what they find.