Tein S-tech springs

[Chillaxed 240sx]

I got a real good deal on some KYB GR2 shocks and struts ... I am looking at putting some Tein S-tech springs onto the car. Are these springs any good? I have the option of getting some Eibach Pro Kit springs, but they are an extra $50. Plus, I have heard awesome things about Tein coilovers.

But anyway, forget everything else. This is the question I want answered. Are Tein S-tech springs any good and how is the ride with them?

[WeldingHank]

IIRC, the GR-2's are like stock, and won't hold up to be lowered.

[revum131]

i got s-techs on my 96 240sx and they're aite....u'll feel an improvement and the ride is pretty comfortable. i was satisfied at first but after being in some other cars i want something with stiffer spring rates and a lower drop.
you'll have more fun with the eibachs i bet and the drop is better too with those.

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Well, my suspension advisors at CCR tell me that since my car is my daily driver, but that I want some better suspension for autocross, then the GR2s are the way to go.

Revum, I know what you mean as far as other cars having better suspension. Maybe I will get the Eibachs ... thanks for posting, though. How much better was the ride as far as handling is concerned?

[Andrew Bohan]

no, GR2's are NOT the way to go for any kind of performance driving.
and the s in s.tech stands for Style, but it might as well stand for Soft too. at the very least, get some agx's and prokit, or rsr race springs.

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Damn ... if I get anything other than the GR2s, then I'll end up paying damn near twice what I would end up paying. At that point, I might as well get some fucking coilovers ...

[North240]

At that point, I might as well get some fucking coilovers ...
sounds like you solved your problem. Gr2's suck ass, s-techs arent that bad i auto-x with them, but i am looking for an upgrade. Might as well save up and do it right.

[Ian]

the s-tech rates are better then pro kit


get RSR race springs...or coilovers lol

[jdmsilvia909]

i actually got the s-tech's and the ride did improve the handling also improved slightly but other than that i am sastified with the s-tech's....oh forgot to mention i got a 90 240sx

[Ian]

i personally think the Stechs are TOO soft adn dont drop low enough

[Chillaxed 240sx]

I can't deal with a real low drop right now. Too many speed bumps I gotta go over on a daily basis and the roads in my town suck right now since there is construction everywhere.

Thanks for everyone's post about the S-techs. Convinces me that this is what I am going to be buying for my car. They lower 1.2" in the rear and 1.5" in the front (maybe the other way around), so that is acceptable enough for me. I don't wanna slam it quite yet. I got it bad enough also with all of these trucks in my town shining their headlights right into my rear window. Any lower than those S-techs and I might be lookin at their fog lights which are just as bad if not worse on some ... lol

Anyway. Why the beef with the GR2s?

jdmsilvia - thanks for letting me know that you got a 1990. I have a 1990 myself, so maybe that can make a small difference.

[North240]

Anyway. Why the beef with the GR2s?
Because they are a stock replacement strut = no stiffer then oem = wont hold up to increased spring rates = crappy longevity = crappy ride = waste of money for a performance strut
If your going to buy GR2s might as well save a bit of money and just leave your stock struts cause thats how they will feel. In fact maybe you should do that first so you can feel the difference, and why it sucks.
Happy to help

[DocTaDrifT]

i say you get sportlines with AGXs

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Hmm ... all righty then. Guess I will have to get something beefier. I am going back to CCR later today, I can talk to em then.

Who makes the Eibach Sportlines? No thanks. I heard those are like riding on bricks. Way to stiff for the driving that I do.

AGX shocks and struts? I'll take a look at those today.

[DocTaDrifT]

Who makes the Eibach Sportlines? No thanks. I heard those are like riding on bricks. Way to stiff for the driving that I do.

am i reading the correctly? but are you asking who makes Eibach sportlines? if you are you have a problem

anyways..... i have sportlines and they are not even close to being that stiff

[mistaanime]

i had s techs until i sold them, they are aiite...not low enough..prokits..juss lowers your car like 1 inch? sportlines are pretty cool i think they are bout 2 inches..but..i still got whiteline...and they'e not bad..

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Bad typo there ... at first I was typing who makes the sportlines but then I realized they were Eibachs and forgot to retype the whole thing. Mah bad.

[JuJuBee]

gr2's as mentioned before, are only stock replacements

tein s-techs, are very soft, not even worth getting imo if you are going to autox or do any amount of serious driving

look at everyone who got s techs, they either have buyer remorse or change it out for stiffer spring...there is a reason they are so cheap

you can get kyb agx's which are adjustable or spend more and get some koni yellows

springs, im running rsr race and they are very good, infact i wish they would be MORE stiff (but they are the stiffest i could find in spring only when i was in the market for it)....be advised that the rsr race is a progressive not linear spring

and yeah, for that price, you are approaching the cost of LOW END coilovers, but im not someone who buys coilovers just to say "i have coilovers" Id rather go with a good spring shock combo and improve my driving, and then upgrade to a GOOD set of coilovers rather than some bottom of the barrel super basic coilover system

[Muzzy]

shut up bitches!!!
chillaxed...im actually runnin that setup now. i like it... yea i think my GR-2s are on their way out. but the springs are plenty stiff. u will like them over stock. i can take corners real well. S.techs provide plenty of drop. its scary how low i am when i see my car go over speed bumps. if its a high speed bump i gotta go over lowrider style or drive around it. and on steep driveways and stuff i scrape my IC or bumper...so i gotta go off of it at an angle. if i went any lower driveing would suk!!! i would scrape ALL the time.

its up 2 u if u want the GR-2s

have u considered RSR springs???

[West]

Coilovers or go home. 98% of Srings/Shocks are a waste of money.

[DJ_Sunrise]

coilovers are nice, but like someone mentioned above.. id rather take a good spring/shock combo over basic coilovers.. think about it.. tein basics = 900.. kyb agx's plus say rsr race springs = 600... and the teins arent even dampening adjustable. you'd have to spend around 1200 for dampening adjustable coilovers, and dont tell me the quality on KYB AGX's is lacking. Kyb's hold up damn well auto-crossing, and for daily driving. They're lacking when it comes to drift, but then again.. they werent designed for it.

~Sunrise

[Muzzy]

well if it only cost 1/4 of the price of coilovers...and it give you what u want...its not a waste

[JuJuBee]

if you dont even drive hard, for coilovers, why spend an extra 50% of the money if you arent even use 60% of the suspension system

the way i see it, practice driving till you are using 100% of your existing setup and once you feel that specific part is holding you back from improving, than upgrade it, youll feel a HUGE difference

i practiced on stock spring shock and when i moved to agx+rsr race, the difference was night and day....far greater than if i would have just went aftermarket right away

upgrade according to skill

[Ian]

personally, i have stechs

and once i get coilovers, i'll be puttin the stechs back in the couch where they came from

[JuJuBee]

to the person who said his stechs were stiff, what else have you ridden on? like everyone else said, stech, compared to a real spring, is not stiff at all

[TheSparo]

you have an advisor? you mean to tell me someone chooses what to put on your car, not you?

[Muzzy]

if u are refering to me i have ridden on cuscos...yea they are stiffer and better but if he doesnt require a full coilover such as that and he is on stock springs he will greatly appriciate the S.techs....i did.

[Ian]

yeah, well 14 year old kid appreciate's any pussy, but that dosent make the fat chick any more desireable to ME...


just cuz he's got fucked up suspension now dosent mean he should just settle for a step up from garbage...


do it once, do it right...you say it's cheaper...i say it's more expensive

1400 for silkroad the first time=1400
or 600+1400 for silkroad after he gets tired of his garbage suspension=2000

so your way is actually 600 dollars more

[North240]

but if all you can afford is $600 for a while 1/2 of the silkroads wont cut it. This kid is worried about a stiff ride, i am guessing he doesnt beat on his car like the rest of us do. Listen chillaxed, IMO you best option right now is to go S-techs and AGX's that way if you want to be more competitive or drive harder you can just upgrade to stiffer springs or go all out with some coilovers. GR2's are still garbage in any application other than OEM replacements.

[evilimport]

Dont wanna switch topics/springs or whatever, but how do the Tanabe GF210 springs stack up against the Tein S-tech springs? Are they pretty much the same or....better....or......?

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Wow, lot's of good information going on.

I do not beat on my ride really hard, this is true. I don't drift ... and the autocrossing around here is not that extreme. The last course, however, was pretty hard ... I did pretty fair until I hit a course that everyone that had newer cars and/or better suspension beat the shit out of me. So I know upgrading the suspension is what I need to do next.

Muzzy, thank you so much for posting that you had the setup.

I won't be able to afford a full set of coilovers for another year or longer. I am getting my engine after this modification ... The coilover set I have been looking at is the Tein HE, but I might just go with some adjustable shocks and better springs.

My "advisor" is one of my friends. He's teaching me a lot about cars right now. I am kind of his apprentice right now so that way I can learn what I need to know and that way I don't get confused and go screwing up everything I touch. I make the final choice, he just helps me decide what to get. That's also why I love Zilvia so much. There are so many of you guys here and there are so many people with a lot of knowledge. If I ever have a tech question or something, this is where I come first. No where else.

[ruthlesstyper]

Then why are you always on 240sxforums?

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Man, the 240sx Forums is damned near a joke. I haven't asked a question there in forever.

[ruthlesstyper]

cuz they shitted on your car when u posted pix of it? just playing man... it's all good

[stevebsvs]

no comment wrong thread

[Chillaxed 240sx]

They just can't handle the window banners! w00t! hahahah

I seriously have lost a lot of respect for the 240sx Forums. They have some great stuff over there, but the vast majority is a load of BS and simple shit. Zilvia is where I come for the good shit.

[Ian]

that's funny cuz zilvia is where i go to bullshit w/ guys that love to fuck around...

when i need real info i search on NICO...cuz that's usually where the DIY's get posted

[Chillaxed 240sx]

NICO is still a forum that I have not checked out yet.

The Chat part of Zilvia is fun to come and see what folks are doing to their cars. Thankfully I have not had any real hard tech questions for the Zilvia tech section.

[JuJuBee]

240sx and nico are a fucking joke, zilvia is a joke also but there is more traffic in the for sale section, ive only started coming back here recently

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Well, I got my price quote on my suspension set up. I had it before, but I forgot where I put it.

For $600.18, I get: KYB Front Right Strut, KYB Front Left Strut, KYB Rear Shocks (2), Tein S-tech springs, and have them installed for me. All of the KYB is GR2. Not too bad considering Pep Boys wanted to charge me $60 per shock for stock replacement shocks.

[JuJuBee]

so none of our recommendations even mattered huh?

why did you even bother starting a thread when we told you kyb gr2's are not performance shocks and tein s techs are not performance shocks

i guess this reinforces the notion that 240sx owners are cheap and this is one reason why i left zilvia for so long

[BSeay]

i have sportlines and toticko (sp) shocks and it's aight, i personally think it's a little soft and i want something a little more stiff..... i think the next time i'm getting tanabe sustec.... but the GR2's would be soft as shit..and how come you had someone else install them? they are shocks/springs...simple to install...

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Nah, I had this quote before I even started this thread. I wanted to see what you folks said about this quote. I should have posted it up before, but like I said, I forgot and couldn't find it.

[North240]

For another 100 bones you could have gotten AGX's, good choice.......................................

[Chillaxed 240sx]

I said it was a quote ... I have not purchased anything. Learn to fucking read.

[axiomatik]

Crappy prices. I got my KYB AGX's for $370 for all 4, plus $200 for Eibach Prokits. Install them yourself and save (and learn). It'll take maybe 2-3 hours for you and a friend, it's an easy job, really. All you need is hand tools, a jack, jack stands, and a spring compressor, which you can rent for free from autozone. AGX/Prokit is a great beginning setup, set the AGX's to the softest setting, and it's as comfortable as stock. Crank up the damping and you get a much sportier setup. Prokits don't drop too much, either. I scrape on tall speed bumps, but my N1 dual hangs really low.

[Chillaxed 240sx]

I think my dad and I are going to install it all ourselves. Just gotta be sure to get a spring compressor.

[0kami]

Do it bro, I'm currently saving up for the AGX+Tien S-tech combo. I think it's gonna be a kick. Mostly cause I haven't realy experienced aftermarket suspension, and truthfully I dont think I need coilovers to be happy.

If you just dont feel like waiting go for the GR2's, It's not the worst and Im sure you will be happy either way, I know I would.

[JuJuBee]

seriously why dont you guys spend a little bit more money instead of buying the cheapest option in a subpar "performance" spring

tein really did a good job marketing to you guys using a trickle down effect from their coilovers to their springs

[Muzzy]

got damn it jujubee!!! stfu!!! yea u are right about them being subpar but we obviously dont have the need for coilovers. i dont auto-x(neither do the rest of some of the people with S.Techs that have posted) as of yet so spending 1000-1300 on coilovers is a waste. now u got good supspension...so...wuts so great about that...so u can tear through downtown and in your neighborhood?? NO!! its a fukin daily driver!!! :rant2: we just wanted a more sporty and stiff feel to our cars over the stock springs and ride height without going for coilovers.
its almost like building an engine with tons of power with monster turbo, monster FMIC, Ti piping, Ti valves, Ti rods, solid lifters, berrilium guides, and all that shit into a daily driver...and never taking it to a track or anykind of event you would need that kind of power!!! oh yea sure u can "my motor is bullet proof"...so... do u race(u might but not everyone does)...no.... then why did you invest all that money into your daily driver?? because you wanted a reliable engine?? NO!! its reliable as it is!!! you would never use the engine to its full potential on the street with those parts anyway! much like some of us would never use the coilovers to their fullest potential because we dont do track events. and dont even say "so i can be sleeper and take out vettes, vipers, supras and cameros." :2f2f: :rant:

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Yeah JuJuBee - quit hatin on so much shit

[publicenemy137]

jujubee doesn't know what he's talking about. He was generalizing in the other thread how "mercedes have more hp than vettes" when most benzes don't, and called me fucking retarded when I said a vette has 11 inch rear tires, well the C6 has 10 inch but the z06 will have at least 11-12 inch wide!

Anyways on topic, Tein S springs and AGX shocks are good choice for daily driving. I have D2 coilovers I daily drive in, great performance but like you, I don't use them on the track. I rode in my friend's springs/shock combo and it still handles pretty well, and it's comfortable. I would also get the eibach sportlines, they lower it up more and I heard they are better quality

[JuJuBee]

sorry, when i was talking about mercedes with more hp i was referring to the upper spectrum around sl55+, and i was referring the previous corvettes and the z06 barely just came out production model

again i apologize it seems you guys didnt get what i meant and i didnt get what you meant

i still stand by what i say about the steches though

[Chillaxed 240sx]

On Topic or ThatGuy will pink the fuck out of you guys.

Thanks for all the input. Now I just have to wait and see what time brings me in the ways of cash. Everything will be on the car before March is over, that much I can almost guarantee. Expect me to whore up the forum with more pictures of the car.

[North240]

I said it was a quote ... I have not purchased anything. Learn to fucking read.

Easy up their jackass, i have been helping you out here. Anyway the reason i said that is because you sounded like you were defending GR-2's again after zilvia in its entirety except for 1 guy said they suck ass. Do what you want its your car but dont come and cry to us when you want to upgrade.

S-Techs dont drop as much but do have a stiffer rate than the sportlines, i run them in auto x and dont have to many problems, but plan on upgrading to rsr springs or coilovers this year.

PS I think tein coilovers blow...................... literally

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Thanks for your input.

[DaPCWiz]

don't you need to be adjusting camber if you drop with whitelines?

[Chillaxed 240sx]

Yeah, I forgot to mention that. I'll also be having them do my camber since I don't know shit about it.

[JuJuBee]

youll want pillowballs

[JohnCantDRFT]

im riding on s techs and agxs right now... but i was wondering how the ride will be like if i cut a coil on the springs. has anyone ever done this?

[Muzzy]

wut??

fdfdsfds

[Ian]

i'm sure it'll suck cuz they're progressive springs...


to be honest i'd liek to cut some off of my springs too tho. they are so high up!


time for coilovers...i just need to steal em or something