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s14 blacktop
02-14-2005, 09:12 AM
I heard its dimensions are 18x18x18 and was thinking if anybody did any engine swaps with this engine in some of their everyday cars?
heres a pic.
http://thekneeslider.com/images/hayabusav8.jpg

oh yeah it supposedly makes 400 HP... and revs to 10,000 rpm's

MakotoS13
02-14-2005, 09:50 AM
holy hell. you could put that in your back pocket.

DocTaDrifT
02-14-2005, 10:16 AM
i think this was talked about on honda-tech my honda friends were telling me about it

citizen
02-14-2005, 10:24 AM
how much they cost?
*looked around a little, price looks to be around 20grand

clean
02-14-2005, 11:13 AM
lotus used 2 of them in some new concept car, i remeber seeing it on horsepowertv on spike like 2 weeks ago. they were at a show like SEMA, it might have actually been SEMA. do a search and im sure you can find it

Var
02-14-2005, 11:18 AM
It's 2x1.3L suzuki engines. It's a 2.6 v-8 that revs to 10k. It makes like 300-ish hp but it makes only 170 torque. That's why you dont put it on a car any heavier than 2000lb, but ideally like 1500. It would be sweet if swapped into an Ariel Atom

citizen
02-14-2005, 11:22 AM
omg var you hath fallen under the atom's spell!!!1

nissantuner22
02-14-2005, 12:03 PM
Hmm I know someone with a go-kart...

ThatGuy
02-14-2005, 12:10 PM
Screw a Go-Cart, I got a skateboard around here somewhere. :D :D :D

s14 blacktop
02-14-2005, 12:48 PM
all i came up with is the kneeslider website and stuff like that I was hoping to find some better high res pics so you would actually be able to see the motor...about the horsepower thats what the site claimed so I dont know...

sykikchimp
02-14-2005, 01:09 PM
It's 2x1.3L suzuki engines. It's a 2.6 v-8 that revs to 10k. It makes like 300-ish hp but it makes only 170 torque. That's why you dont put it on a car any heavier than 2000lb, but ideally like 1500. It would be sweet if swapped into an Ariel Atom


Bah.. lots of honda's 2800+ lbs with a lot less power than that can move..

it would be a BLAST in a 240..

Var
02-14-2005, 01:27 PM
Bahh!!! :)

http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/media/evo_sr8_driven/index.php

nismo2491
02-14-2005, 01:28 PM
haha yeah gokart sounds fun
KEvin

Var
02-14-2005, 01:40 PM
http://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/news_folder/V8_christine/l_v8curve.gif

the head
02-14-2005, 02:42 PM
that would be badass in a radical or maybe a caterham ultralight chassis

AlligatorBling
02-14-2005, 05:02 PM
pic says it all

http://www.glamisinfo.com/picts2/adds/christine_mazzone.gif

wootwoot
02-14-2005, 06:13 PM
I said Lotus Elise, 240z, or Toyota Mr2

aa87
02-14-2005, 07:04 PM
+1 for the ariel atom, weighing in at about 1005 lbs!!!

brianglawson
02-14-2005, 07:11 PM
datsun roadster......510/b210 1st gen rx7 fiat mg/triumph sunbeam austin healy....... ac .... any of the greats.. haha or a superformance s1(probably the best:)) but yeah id rawk it..haha 10krpm mmmm

MakotoS13
02-14-2005, 07:45 PM
i wonder why people say "but it needs that displacement" instead of "but it needs to rev to 10K"

that motor is a ricer's wet dream.

AlligatorBling
02-14-2005, 08:29 PM
^ very true.... that way they can put that 10k tach to good use!

sr240mike
02-14-2005, 09:12 PM
http://www.ringmini.de/kart1.jpg

mjjstang
02-14-2005, 09:27 PM
wow i coulnt even imagine one of those on a go kart

sr240mike
02-14-2005, 09:35 PM
I gotta find the video, Its nuts !!! Actually I think the pic I posted was with a gixxer motor.

BoroBoroS13
02-14-2005, 10:17 PM
Well Quafie is making a FWD and RWD trannie for that motor so it should be interesting how these things get used. I think it would go well in some kind of tube frame/fiber glass body track car.

As for the whole go-cart thing, have you guys seen the 13B powered one?

sepulchral
02-15-2005, 05:56 AM
shitty torque

AlligatorBling
02-15-2005, 07:39 AM
^more than a KA, lol

Antihero983
02-15-2005, 07:45 AM
hmm, how bout that in a miata? :2f2f:

Phlip
02-15-2005, 08:02 AM
^more than a KA, lol
Barely so, twice the cylinders, and at 50 times the cost

AlligatorBling
02-15-2005, 04:45 PM
twice the cylinders yes, but not much bigger in displacment... the cost, yeah thats nuts... i still say put it in a sand car though, thatd kick ass.

thx247
02-15-2005, 05:15 PM
It would work well it alot of cars, but no one here is considering the run costs for that type of motor. It would need frequent rebuilds, a radical owner looking at one was thinking rebuilds every 25 hours. No thanks

90RS13
02-15-2005, 06:01 PM
It would need frequent rebuilds, a radical owner looking at one was thinking rebuilds every 25 hours. No thanks

Why would someone say it would need frequent rebuilds? You realize it's just two 'busa motorcycle heads, and cylinders, (yes a busa's cylinders are seperate from the crankcase) mated to a common crankcase. It should be very reliable. The company that will manufacture them in England, built it to be just as reliable as the stock 'busa 4 cyl's.

If you just said it would need frequent rebuilds cause you saw V-8 and 10k rpms together, then you should read more.

-matt

wootwoot
02-15-2005, 06:54 PM
Yeah its tottally for ricers... Not for people who love Formula One and race cars. Fucking ricers...

thx247
02-15-2005, 08:46 PM
Why would someone say it would need frequent rebuilds? You realize it's just two 'busa motorcycle heads, and cylinders, (yes a busa's cylinders are seperate from the crankcase) mated to a common crankcase. It should be very reliable. The company that will manufacture them in England, built it to be just as reliable as the stock 'busa 4 cyl's.

If you just said it would need frequent rebuilds cause you saw V-8 and 10k rpms together, then you should read more.

-matt


Just repeating what I heard a radical owner tell me. I didn't have to read anything.

wootwoot
02-15-2005, 09:42 PM
When used in a race situation, any engine will need frequent rebuilds. 25 hours=a lotttt of track days/ events. He wants to keep the engine from blowing up on him and getting ruined by doing what is considered routine maitenance for a race car.

Var
02-16-2005, 01:38 AM
. 25 hours=a lotttt of track days/ events. .


maybe for a drag racer.

blu808
02-16-2005, 02:12 AM
http://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/news_folder/V8_christine/l_v8curve.gif

SOO. IT WILL FEEL LIKE A STOCK SR? Just really loud

wootwoot
02-16-2005, 09:41 AM
maybe for a drag racer.

This engine goes in REAL race cars. It is not intended for street cars. Do you people not intend the fucking purpose of the engine? I swear you are blind. It was built to be put into a car that weighs less than half of the 240. 25 hours in a FULL OUT RACE CAR is a lot.

Var
02-16-2005, 12:21 PM
This engine goes in REAL race cars. It is not intended for street cars. Do you people not intend the fucking purpose of the engine? I swear you are blind. It was built to be put into a car that weighs less than half of the 240. 25 hours in a FULL OUT RACE CAR is a lot.



I agree with you on this one.

1-yes..the engine is meant for a light car.
but a light car isnt necessarily a full out race car. There are cars out there like corollas and lotus elise for example, that can weigh in under 2k with their stock engines in there. This v-8 could work well for those cars

2-yes 25 hours is a lot in a full out race car but that could be just one endurance race. Not all full race cars are sponsored race cars.

the next step..turbo

The Busa motor bored out and turbocharged has made 400hp to the wheel on a motorcycle. I dont know the details of the engine build, but they said it was reliable.


this following dyno chart is a bad example...because it's for a drag race motor, so i dunno if it would last very long in a road race. but you get the idea. These engine have a lotta potential.

http://www.totalkaosperformance.com/580.jpg

wootwoot
02-16-2005, 07:05 PM
Turboing that thing would stomp its only other production mate, the Ferrari F50. Dont get mad at me if I'm wrong, I've never been a big fan of Ferrari since there is no way in hell I'm going to be affording one. If turbo charged, I can honestly see that engine producing 800 hp reliably and ofcourse more torque since thats what the beautiful turbo does. Iam absolutely obsessed with Formula One, so trust me, I've been thinking about this damn engine way to much and what to put it in. It also seems that the gent who is going to be rebuilding it every 25 hours is just quite a nitpicky fellow. He just wants to make sure nothing bad happens. I would consider this engine great for any car weighing 2500 pounds and less n/a. Keep in mind you can still bump the compression, and put cams/ a crazy intake manifold on that sucker. Pretty sure any headwork would be useless. If you turbo or super charge that thing, anything insane like that. ANY car will haul ass with it..

trevor
03-28-2005, 11:07 PM
http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/v8/rpa_v8/index.php is where there at. i was thinking a 914 or biling a FSAE car thay are only 400lbs.

s13gonwild
03-29-2005, 01:50 AM
hmm, how bout that in a miata? :2f2f:
miatas are good cars but gay LOL