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Andrew Bohan
02-09-2005, 01:48 PM
from http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/basketball/nba/02/09/hakeem.mosque.ap/index.html?cnn=yes


WASHINGTON (AP) -- A mosque established and funded by basketball star Hakeem Olajuwon gave more than $80,000 to charities the government later determined to be fronts for the terror groups al-Qaida and Hamas, according to financial records obtained by The Associated Press.

Olajuwon told the AP he had not known of any links to terrorism when the donations were made, prior to the government's crackdown on the groups, and would not have given the money if he had known.

"There is no way you can go back in time," Olajuwon said in a telephone interview from Jordan, where he is studying Arabic. "After the fact, now they have the list of organizations that are banned by the government."

A Treasury Department spokeswoman, Molly Millerwise, declined to discuss Olajuwon's contributions but said, "In many cases donors are being unwittingly misled by the charities."

Federal law enforcement officials said they were not investigating Olajuwon, a 7-foot center born in Nigeria who played 17 seasons for the Houston Rockets of the National Basketball Association before retiring in 2002.

Olajuwon, who became a U.S. citizen in 1993, was known as "The Dream" and won the NBA's Most Valuable Player award in 1994, when he led the Rockets to the first of back-to-back championships.

The Olajuwon-founded Islamic Da'Wah Center gave more than $60,000 in 2000 and $20,000 in 2002 to the Islamic African Relief Agency, the center's tax records show.

The government shut down the relief agency in October, saying it gave money and other support to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida.

But the agency and its possible ties to terrorism had been in news stories years earlier, before Olajuwon's contributions:

--The U.S. Agency for International Development cut off two government grants to the Islamic African Relief Agency in 1999, saying funding the group "would not be in the national interest of the United States."

--A former fund-raiser for the relief agency, Ziyad Khaleel, was named in a federal trial in 2001 as the man who bought a satellite telephone that bin Laden used to plan the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

--Numerous news organizations reported shortly after the 2001 terrorist attacks that the relief agency was among more than two dozen Islamic charities under scrutiny for possible terrorist ties.

Olajuwon also participated in a 1999 celebrity bowling tournament for the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which the U.S. government shut down in 2001, accusing it of sending money to Hamas. The Islamic Da'Wah Center gave more than $2,000 to the Texas-based Holy Land Foundation in 2000, according to its tax returns.

At the time, Olajuwon was vice president of the mosque -- which was named after him -- and provided more than three-quarters of its money. Olajuwon heads the separate foundation that now controls the Islamic Da'Wah Center.

All the donations came before the government designated the Holy Land Foundation and the Islamic African Relief Agency as terrorist fronts. Vipul Worah, an accountant for Olajuwon's charities, said U.S. authorities have never asked about the contributions.

Olajuwon, who is married with four daughters, became a Muslim during his professional career and was known for playing in key games while observing dawn-to-dusk fasting during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

Tax returns for Olajuwon's Islamic Da'Wah Center show it gave the Islamic African Relief Agency $61,250 in 2000 and $20,000 in 2002.

Those donations accounted for 2.2 percent of the $2.8 million the Islamic African Relief Agency received during 2000 and 1.4 percent of the $1.4 million it raised in 2002, records show.

Olajuwon said the donations came after fund-raisers from the Islamic African Relief Agency visited Houston. He said the group told him donations would help the needy in Africa.

"They came and approached us and everything was legitimate. I had no knowledge of their activity," Olajuwon said.

The Treasury Department alleged in October that several top officials of the group's branches overseas are al-Qaida members or associates and the group gave bin Laden hundreds of thousands of dollars in 1999.

The federal government says the Sudan-based Islamic African Relief Agency's U.S. branch is IARA-USA, based in Columbia, Mo. That group has challenged the terrorist designation in court, saying it is separate from the Sudanese group.

Shereef Akeel, a lawyer for IARA-USA, acknowledged the U.S. group and the Sudanese group "may be in a partnership together" and some people with links to IARA-USA have terrorist associations.

"Just because someone traveled in the same circles, just because one employee was at the same conference as someone who supported terrorism, doesn't mean the organization sponsors or condones acts of terrorism," Akeel said.

The Holy Land Foundation was shut down in December 2001. Federal authorities say it was the main U.S. fund-raiser for Hamas and sent $12.4 million to the Palestinian terrorist group from 1995 to 2001. Hamas has claimed responsibility for dozens of suicide bombings in Israel that have killed scores of people, including Americans.

The Holy Land Foundation and several leaders are awaiting trial on criminal charges of supporting terrorism -- charges they deny. U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler rejected the group's 2002 lawsuit challenging its terrorist designation, ruling federal officials had "ample evidence" of financial support for Hamas.

Attorney General John Ashcroft said in July that an indictment against several officers was "neither a reflection on the well-meaning people who may have donated funds to the foundation, nor is it a reflection on the Muslim faith and its adherents."

In 2000, the year after Olajuwon participated in the Dallas bowling tournament for the Holy Land Foundation, the Islamic Da'Wah Center gave the group $2,430, tax records show. That money was a tiny fraction of the $13 million the foundation raised that year.

Olajuwon said the bowling tournament was one of many charitable events he has attended.

"I get all sorts of requests from charitable organizations," Olajuwon said. "It was a bunch of kids and I gave them autographs."

vegita319
02-09-2005, 02:10 PM
OMG. I don't know who to trust anymore. Man, kinda hard to believe him or to not believe him. People these days...

cali240sxdrifter
02-09-2005, 02:36 PM
damn.. crazy stuff

S14DB
02-09-2005, 02:57 PM
Bowling for terrorism. Should be a movie...

smellslikecurry
02-09-2005, 03:53 PM
the government has been quick to point fingers...every muslim now is a potential terrorist in their eyes...friends of mine have been arrested just because they have long beards and were wearing long robes to a gathering...ive been checked every single time i go to the airport and i dont even "look like a terrorist"...im 18...look like im 16...cleanly shaved and i never wear long robes and stuff...sucks to be a muslim in america in this day and age...

Andrew Bohan
02-09-2005, 04:03 PM
i see muslims with long beards and robes around here all the time. no one seems to trip. weird.

smellslikecurry
02-09-2005, 05:01 PM
i guess its a new york thing

HaLo
02-09-2005, 06:24 PM
I am muslim and god am I happy to live in Canada. So much less persecution up north... but cold winters suck. ;)

smellslikecurry
02-09-2005, 07:01 PM
assalamwalykum :)

SoCalSilvia
02-09-2005, 07:18 PM
salaam brothers! Only place I get persecuted is airports. I'm in the same boat as you "smellslikecurry," I'm 18(look younger), clean shaven, polo and jeans wearing guy but they still hassle me. This one brilliant airport security checkpoint guy asked me what my hair gel was for. No joke, it was in my carry-on and he took it out and asked me "what is this, what are you going to use it for." I honestly couldn't believe it. My brother was laughing hysterically.

Anyways, regarding the post here, Hakeem Olajuwon is NOT a terrorist. Did you even read what you posted? "Olajuwon told the AP he had not known of any links to terrorism when the donations were made, prior to the government's crackdown on the groups, and would not have given the money if he had known."

He is a great person, and a good Muslim. He had no idea the money he was DONATING was going to terrorists. Saying he is a terrorist is slander. Please get your facts straight before posting such comments.

smellslikecurry
02-09-2005, 07:47 PM
Haha thats pretty bad...they confiscated my batteries and said they would send them to where i was staying...never got them...i had like 4 cans of coke in my bag from the airplane and from a stop over...they made me open them to see if i they were really coke!! and the funniest one was when they made me take off my adidas visor...i took of my visor and shoved my fist through it...smirked and moved on...sucks doesnt it

Andrew Bohan
02-09-2005, 09:07 PM
yes i read the whole story before i posted it. jokes, my friends, jokes.

smellslikecurry
02-09-2005, 09:29 PM
socalsilvia...i dont think driftaholic was accusing him...i think he was just posting the article thats all...

kazuo
02-10-2005, 12:02 AM
He is a great person, and a good Muslim. He had no idea the money he was DONATING was going to terrorists. Saying he is a terrorist is slander. Please get your facts straight before posting such comments.

Slander is spoken.

It's actually libel.

salaam alaykum brothers! ;)

SoCalSilvia
02-10-2005, 01:36 AM
Slander is spoken.

It's actually libel.

salaam alaykum brothers! ;)

but isn't libel written? since he did not write it(unless typing is considered writing in this case?) I figured it would be slander... meh, you know what I mean.

driftaholic- your post did not seem to be a joke, so I took it seriously. Your post title states "hakeem olajuwon is a terrorist"... i didn't see the humor in it. then your post body was just pasting the story, again... no jokes.

smellslikecurry- well his post title says "hakeem olajuwon is a terrorist." Since he is not, I figured I would correct him.

KoukiMonster
02-10-2005, 04:02 AM
but isn't libel written? since he did not write it(unless typing is considered writing in this case?) I figured it would be slander... meh, you know what I mean.

driftaholic- your post did not seem to be a joke, so I took it seriously. Your post title states "hakeem olajuwon is a terrorist"... i didn't see the humor in it. then your post body was just pasting the story, again... no jokes.

smellslikecurry- well his post title says "hakeem olajuwon is a terrorist." Since he is not, I figured I would correct him.


you are wayyyy too tightly wound.

HaLo
02-10-2005, 04:30 AM
How can you not be tightly wound when everyone is so quick to point fingers?

sykikchimp
02-10-2005, 07:11 AM
Question for you guys that are singled out... What is your decent? African? Middle-eastern? Scotch-Irish? (lol)

Phlip
02-10-2005, 07:20 AM
I agree, the media has been far too quick to jump on this one... The man (who happens to be wealthy) gives from what he is more than able to give, in good faith, in support of what he believes. Then all of a sudden "islamic" and "terrorist" become damn near synonymous, and they find that someone might have handled the money in a manner that was less than cool... Hell, have you guys been paying your taxes? Same difference

smellslikecurry
02-10-2005, 09:56 AM
my parents are from bangladesh...i was born and raised in ny

Phlip
02-10-2005, 10:03 AM
my parents are from bangladesh...i was born and raised in ny
And that was your 666th post, I am officially scared of you now...
"SECURITY!!!"

Andrew Bohan
02-10-2005, 10:32 AM
socalsilvia - the phrase "oh noes!" could hardly start something serious...

HaLo
02-10-2005, 11:00 AM
Well, I saw the humour in the title for one. ;)

As for being single out, I am not. My father is turkish, my mother french-canadian and I was born and raised in Montreal. Only my name really differs.

SoCalSilvia
02-10-2005, 02:33 PM
socalsilvia - the phrase "oh noes!" could hardly start something serious...

Like I said, I took it seriously because I did not see the humor in it. If you were joking, no biggie, I just wanted to make sure other people reading the thread were not mislead. If I didn't see the humor in it, chances are, there is probably someone else who didn't either. If that makes me "too tightly wound" well, so be it. You don't get persecuted for being Muslim, nor do you have to watch the media bash your people daily and misinform an entire country about the true teachings of your faith. Maybe if you experienced that, you would be "tightly wound" as well.

BTW- I was born and raised here, but my parents are from Pakistan.

HaLo
02-10-2005, 02:59 PM
You don't get persecuted for being Muslim, nor do you have to watch the media bash your people daily and misinform an entire country about the true teachings of your faith. Maybe if you experienced that, you would be "tightly wound" as well.

that is not only in your country my friend... unfortunately.

People are quick to judge. Quick to point fingers. It's easy to say Muslim oppress women. If that were so true, why did my mother CHOSE to convert to Islam?

SoCalSilvia
02-10-2005, 03:09 PM
Not to mention the fastest growing religion in the world today...

Andrew Bohan
02-10-2005, 03:47 PM
you're right. i dont' get persecuted for being muslim. most of my family is from ireland and i was raised catholic and democrat in a small town dominated by fundamentalist protestant republicans. probably not as bad as being a muslim, but it's leaning the same direction.
anyways, no hard feelings okay?

HaLo
02-10-2005, 04:07 PM
you're right. i dont' get persecuted for being muslim. most of my family is from ireland and i was raised catholic and democrat in a small town dominated by fundamentalist protestant republicans. probably not as bad as being a muslim, but it's leaning the same direction.
anyways, no hard feelings okay?


I don't hold any hard feelings against you, I like your RX-7! :D

SoCalSilvia
02-10-2005, 04:38 PM
anyways, no hard feelings okay?

Oh of course not man, no hard feelings at all. I'm not angry or upset, I just get frustrated when people get mislead about Islam. I mean I just saw the title, and I saw the first response to the thread:

vegita319- "OMG. I don't know who to trust anymore. Man, kinda hard to believe him or to not believe him. People these days..."

I didn't mean to come at you or anything like that bro, I just wanted to make sure people didn't get the wrong idea about Islam or Hakeem Olajuwon.