s13 Offset opinion

[shane_lxi]

Aight. I have no choice but to do a 5lug conversion now. I want to get wheels that fit RIGHT! I have now decided on a set. It's motegi's new 2 piece wheel designed specifically for nissans, and more specifically, for drifting. The 'touge' as the call it (dorifto). The offsets though are VERY exact. I want to ask the s13 guys if they think they will work out for my s13.

This is what I want. 17x9 come only in a +24 offset, which I feel is WAY too deep for the rears, so I want them on the fronts. For the rears, I want the 18x10, which only come in a +30 offset.

Do you guys think those offsets are fine for the s13, or are they going to be WAY too frogged? Also, I think they might be too wide. I got kyb's now, so they are bulkier then coiloversl ike most of oyu guys have. What do you think?

[Dousan_PG]

how are wheels DESIGNED for drifting
its fucking round???

who cars

i have regamasters
on the s13 it was fn01rc

too wide? phhsst
whatever
and btw, touge doesnt mean drifting


as far as offsets both are fine for s13
nothing crazy. relatively safe.

[phrozen]

:stupid: why dont u do the math. and u dont need to go 5 lug its a choice there are some good 4 lugs, 5lug is nice but u dont need it. are u running over fenders? rolled fenders with pull? how much camber are u running. u have kyb's with what kinda springs?

[MakotoS13]

WTF? dude, designed for drifting? end yourself NOW.

[CHARLIE2020]

2.5" from mounting pad forward will get you flush without getting that froged out look or have to add madd camber.

P.S. You just gotta work your width's and offset's to get a correct combo.

[email protected] YOURSELF NOW!!!

Sounds like something the Drill Instructor says in Marine Corps Boot Camp.....lmao

[bouncin_180]

this is kool ... so funnie ... my homie just made me rotfl when he told me some similar BS blah blah blah ricer gone 240 talk ... he just moved to a new area and meet some 240 people n some guy "drifted" his s14 and knew what offset would be good for his car for "drifting" ... great lol.

n e ways +24 and +30 aint too bad ... depending on how flush u want them to look n how much camber u got n blah blah blah

[aa87]

Those fucken touge wheels weigh a ton!! or just alot, lame!

[CHARLIE2020]

I just want to clear something up, you cant just throw a offset out there and say it should be fine, you have to state that offset with the width of rim you plan on using, they both go hand and hand.

18x8.5+30 would be fine and flush

18x9.5+30 would stick out 12mm more

18x8.5+24 you would have to have more camber than you would with 8.5+30 so they wouldn't rub on your stock fenders.


Best thing to do is mount a stock rim or any rim for that matter at ZERO camber, then measure with a level and ruler how much more you can come forward without going past the stock fender well.

[CHARLIE2020]

^^^ofcourse you need to know the specs of the wheel you are mounting and measureing so you know what to apply to get your new offset.

[SilviaDriver]

It's motegi's new 2 piece wheel designed specifically for nissans, and more specifically, for drifting. The 'touge' as the call it (dorifto). ?

the wheels arent designed specifically for drifting, the wheels are marketed as drifting to catch fishes like you.

it worked too.

[kuruptR]

*EDITED FOR BETTER UNDERSTANDING*

"Hi, I just read the new issue of ImPoRt TuNeR and can't believe how cool drifting is. I'd like to jump on the bandwagon myself since I'm a 16yr old troll with no ambition in life and love to follow others. Tell me everything I need to know is 20 words or less so I can go out and drift and street race and rule my local hometown because I'm so cool and hardcore." originally posted by R240NA

[shane_lxi]

and btw, touge doesnt mean drifting
.
What? lol. I didn't say it did... 'Touge' is the name of the wheel man, lol. (Here's the link http://www.motegiracing.com/wheels/details.asp?parent=58&wheelid=59&name=Touge%20Bronze&style=2175&desc= ) I was just quoting the add in the dealer catolog I got at work (we get dealers catalogs all the time at schwab's). I think it means that it is light, but uses stonger alloy, so though it is light, it can still hold the stress of drifting. I don't drift, or streetrace btw, and I don't claim to be a racer, or a doriftor, I think such things are ghey, or best left at the track. I felt like crap when I crashed my first s13, and that was an accident, I would feal even dumber if I wrecked it trying to drift a corner :P.

I already had a good idea of how it would fit. I've been working there in service and sales for 2 years, since I was 16, so you get used to offsets and width matching. Just wanted to know your opinions on widths because the s13 has the strangest rear to front difference I have ever seen. Thanks for the opinions. I do think it's too wide, especially in the back. I just had plans to do the z32 brake conversion soon, and it's tough to find a 4-4.5 +35-esque wheel that will clear the calipers. Anyhows. I'ma go try and find a better match. Thanks again.

[Juujai]

lol 5 lug and motegi cant be together in the same sentence... youre willing to go balling and convert to 5 lug and still thinking about motegis? go get some real wheels....

[shane_lxi]

*EDITED FOR BETTER UNDERSTANDING*

"Hi, I just read the new issue of ImPoRt TuNeR and can't believe how cool drifting is. I'd like to jump on the bandwagon myself since I'm a 16yr old troll with no ambition in life and love to follow others. Tell me everything I need to know is 20 words or less so I can go out and drift and street race and rule my local hometown because I'm so cool and hardcore."
lol. That's pretty good. But it has nothing to do with my post at all, since I said nothing about wanting to be a doriftor, lol. But it kind of reminds me of my buddy, who thought he could drift his vw gti :P . Like I mentioned htough, I have no interest in drifting, or racing, just wanted a wheel that would be flush with my wells. Not up for any sunken ships.

[KoukiMonster]

its specially made for drifting because before they are shipped out they are blessed by the drift KINGZOR himself. he dips his fingers in spent oil that came from a car that dripped oil all over the sacred track of seika hills and flicks them on the wheels saying "body of drift"


SERIOUUUUSLY dude don't be suckered into there marketing ploys of naming wheels TOE_GAY just because they think they can make sails...sales.

why don't i just name these "Dookie the Drift bear wheels"

http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/bear/bear.jpg

would you buy them then? what if they were a little more tasteful? what if they were these?

http://www.rimstop.com/wheelpics/millemiglia/daisy.jpg

and were called happy sunshine driftflower spl wheels

i guess to sum it all up, don't be so gulliable for a name that YOU THINK with the name touge that this wheel will give you an idea of lightness and strength. its marketing my dear watson.

[shane_lxi]

lol... that was... informative. Like I said, no plans of drifting. Just saying the name of the wheel, and what I thought they meant in it's explaination. I know all about marketing schemes... I sell wheels and tires for a living, lol :P. "Oh I ran those same ones on my car last year, loved the smooth ride and wear quality :D." lol. Just stating what I read in the catalog, and spouting it out to you guys in hopes that you could piece together what I was talking about. But so far one guy claimed I was talking about touge being drifting, one guy thinks I was asking how to drift, and if he sould for some reason sum it up for me, and another somehow went off on a tangeant about being a ricer civic guy who had a friend with an s14 who drifted or something? lol. I like how this board bashes on n00bs. Reminds me of growing up in a household with 6 siblings, lol. You get a few words out, then they get twisted into an agrument. I didn't even know what drifting was until I bought a 240, and someone on club240 called me a bandwagoneer, lol. He said I bought it because I wanted it to drift it, I was like "what the hell it drifting?" "Initial D? WTF is anime?"
- I don't race or drift
- Don't desire to race or drift
- Understand offset to size relation
- Want flush to fender wheels
That's it as far as facts go that I have stated, lol. Now ramble on about how I want to be a drifter, and how I used to be a ricer, and how I want to get into the drift scene. But make sure you sum it up into 20 words or less, lol.

[shane_lxi]

its specially made for drifting because before they are shipped out they are blessed by the drift KINGZOR himself. he dips his fingers in spent oil that came from a car that dripped oil all over the sacred track of seika hills and flicks them on the wheels saying "body of drift"


SERIOUUUUSLY dude don't be suckered into there marketing ploys of naming wheels TOE_GAY just because they think they can make sails...sales.

why don't i just name these "Dookie the Drift bear wheels"

http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/bear/bear.jpg

would you buy them then? what if they were a little more tasteful? what if they were these?

http://www.rimstop.com/wheelpics/millemiglia/daisy.jpg

and were called happy sunshine driftflower spl wheels

i guess to sum it all up, don't be so gulliable for a name that YOU THINK with the name touge that this wheel will give you an idea of lightness and strength. its marketing my dear watson.
No I would not, but if it was a tastefull looking wheel with a proper offset that would make it sit flush with my fender, then who gives a fuck if it was called the 'dorifto' or 'ricer' or even 'gay faggot' wheels. A name is just a name. I was interested in them because they were the only wheels I found in my store's dealer listings that had a decent enough offset to catch my eye, and had an attractive 5 spoke design.

ps: lol, those bear wheels are hilarious, I would buy them just to say I had them, lol.

[nightwalker]

I have to give you credit. You retain a good attitude even after some of Zilvia's most notorious assholes crapped on you.

btw, those are some fuckin ugly heavy wheels.

You'll probably see them on some idiot's z33 before someone puts it on their 240.

[wootwoot]

18's on a s13 is really quite dumb.
also unless I read It wrong you said you want 17's front 18's rear? Thats a great way to make your car handle like ass. What tires do you plan on running on this set up as well? Super super stretched ones? just get 9's on the back... Ya know what, fuck it,this cant be anything but a show car so just get what looks good. F function

[shane_lxi]

No, I am not oging to go with these wheels. I'm just going to find some 17x9 +35's and run spacers on the front. Fuck the conversion and offset matching, lol.

Yeah, I try not to argue on the internet. Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard. What say do people on the internet have about what I want to do, so I don't let it get to me too much if they pick on me. This site has it worse then any site I have ever been to though, lol. I see alot of this 'dog pile on the n00b' attitude floatin' around.

ps: A show car? Naw, I wouldn't put anything I drive into a car show, lol. I don't want to race, I don't want to show. But I DO want something that I feel is attractive for my car. I do like going fast (I'm going to court in 1 hour for a speeding ticket) and I hate driving cars who's handling is shitty. Just because you don't race doesn't mean you show (this board is always one extreme or the other, lol), this car is for me, and nobody else.

[0kami]

:hs: this is probbaly the reason im so inactive in the forum, that and the fact that I dont give a shit about what other person with $$$ falling out their ass think of my car, i know for a fact it looks proper for me and my situation and i wouldnt change my plans unless its benefiting ME. dont take it the rong way, but sometimes u just gotta jump on things and do it yourself.

[CHARLIE2020]

Personally I think most of the cars on here are wack looking anyways, but I try not to loose any sleep over it.......lol

P.S. If your gonna own a S13 with SR20DET swap and or conversion, make the shit look good, one thing I cant stand about the 240 is who *ucking piasa you can make them look.

240SX's are a thin line between bad ass and wet-back......lol

[po1z5che__]

WTF? dude, designed for drifting? end yourself NOW.
this thread is dumb.
BTW makoto i love your new sig :D

[shane_lxi]

lol. Then you get people like this ^^^^^ with very few posts who are desperately trying to conform with the top guys in a last ditch effort to avoid the criticism. They typically quote a pervious post that seems to be agred upon by the majority of the thread participants, agreeing with it at all costs, imediately followed by an off topic, and often enfeminate, compliment to another member with more posts. "Oh my GAWD! Your new sig is fabbo. It's just do DIE for! (que cheesy grin emoticon) :D" lol. Kind of a funny observation. But I find it to be typically acurate. lol

[KoukiMonster]

wow you took it like a champ

im proud of you.

i apologize, i had chinese buffett and the effects hadn't worn off and we all know what you do before you eat chinese buffett right????

[0kami]

lol. Then you get people like this ^^^^^ with very few posts who are desperately trying to conform with the top guys in a last ditch effort to avoid the criticism. They typically quote a pervious post that seems to be agred upon by the majority of the thread participants, agreeing with it at all costs, imediately followed by an off topic, and often enfeminate, compliment to another member with more posts. "Oh my GAWD! Your new sig is fabbo. It's just do DIE for! (que cheesy grin emoticon) :D" lol. Kind of a funny observation. But I find it to be typically acurate. lol

exacly :squintd:

[shane_lxi]

lol. Have oyu noticed that too. Kind of funny. It's pattern not unique to, but very common to this forum. A definate pattern in the behavior of the '60 post lemmings'.

[po1z5che__]

your crying about the 60 post newbies. Yet, you only have 30 odd some posts. Just because a person doesnt post doesnt mean they dont read.
Ive been here a full year longer then you have.
Your mad because your sig sucks. :hsdance:

[Sil Beer S13]

sell your car.

[meatish]

I was like, oh those arent so bad.. but then i scrolled down, 26 pounds haha wtf?
Lock lock lock please..

[Yoshi]

before the lock, props to Shane for taking the high road and not being childish. Congrats on surviving your hazing :)

However.... what's a 91 XE? Wasn't the XE designation for the 89-90? I have an original 91 sales brochure... XE is no where in there man :o
You either have a SE, LE, or base (no trim designation)

[NickBW]

[img]http://www.rimstop.com/wheelpics/millemiglia/daisy.jpg[img]

and were called happy sunshine driftflower spl wheels



heh, damn you beat me to it. I was thinking the same damn thing. :keke:

[shane_lxi]

However.... what's a 91 XE? Wasn't the XE designation for the 89-90? I have an original 91 sales brochure... XE is no where in there man :o
You either have a SE, LE, or base (no trim designation)
lol. It's kind of sad actually. I had a 91 fb, I totaled it, not dorifting. Anyway, long story short. I hit a truck, and fucked up the entire driver side. I have pics at my cardomain (shanelxi.cardomain.com). Anyhow, I am in the process of swapping my ka24de and five speed tranny into my auto '90 with a blown 24e. I can only work on it on sundays (rough work scedule) and I still have to pay it off. Any how, so it's a '90 base with '91 internals. I even need to swap out the interior, so it will basically be the exact same as my old car except a different color. That's why I call it my '91 XE. That sig was made for my '91 base, but I added the 'XE' on after I bought the '90 because I was too lazy to make a sig, lol. So, because of my laziness, I will pass it off as a lame nickname for my new car, lol.

I said it before. I don't get worked up about shit on the net, lol. It's not worth it. Some guy 8 states away judging me from the 3 posts of mine that he has read? No way. Maybe after a while that person will warm up to me, if not, forget them, what are they going to do? I will usually insult such people in a way that is hard for their feeble minds to comprehend. I usually get atypical 'well your just jealous" or "hmm, you ricer." " this thread is gay". It's a forum, not worth getting worked up over. I do understand that it is great to have a little fun at somebody else's expence every once in a while. I was the subject this time. Maybe htings will go better next time though, lol.

ps: directed at wannabe L337 'porche' guy (aka :blah: ) : lol. I actualy pride myself in my self taught skills with photoshop. While you may be unimpressed with my sig, I never thought for one moment that it was inferior to anybodies sig. So why would i have posted out of anger about my sig being crappy if I thought, and still think, my sig is nice? lol. I was not ragging on n00bs neither. I was talking about n00bs that act like veterens by covorting around and masquerading like they know what they are talking about. Agreeing at all costs to get into the 'inner circle' by complying with what they see as the popular point of view. That person quite possibly could be yourself chachi. lol.

[nightwalker]

chachi! chachi! chachi! LOL!

..nae kun chachi iso (hehe, spelling is all wrong!)

[kazuo]

Hey...

...

Who makes those Teddy Bear rims? Those things are dope.

I'd want one in a low offset so I can have that dope "sunken face" look.. it'd look like I was torturing the teddy bear. lol

ps. Your choice in wheels is terrible. Get something that doesnt weigh 5,000lbs
pps. I was serious about who makes the Teddy Bear rims. I seriously want a set.

[KoukiMonster]

apart from the fact that it says ronal in the teddy bear wheel picture in two different places

ronal makes them.


http://ronalusa.com/wheels/bear.html

not 4x114.3 though..

[cdlong]

just to make sure you take away something useful from this thread....coilovers have LESS clearance between the strut and wheel, not more. the spring is a smaller diameter on C/Os but it is at the same level as the wheel and tire, not above it like with AGXs and stock struts.

[kazuo]

not 4x114.3 though..

Wouldnt be that big of a deal, provided they weren't 14" rims.

Sigh.

I sent them a msg asking if they could make a 15" set just for me. :)

[KoukiMonster]

hehe it would be pretty sweet


mad props to you if you'd rock em haha


probably get lots-o-chicks

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

flower in the front and teddy bear in the back

haahh the quote shane wrote i thought was funny but messed up at the same time
"Yeah, I try not to argue on the internet. Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard."

[shane_lxi]

lol. If they are just a 4 lug, you can get them redrilled to work with the s13 at any machine shop. lol. Theyd be hella sunk though. lol.

[raging panda]

seriously though, don't go 5 lug just to settle for some crappy wheels made by a crappy company. If you go 5 lug, there are a ton of wheels that you can fit on the 240, like fno1rc, yea everyone has them, but everyone has a 240 too, so what. mb motorsports weapon wheels, 17X9 +17 offset, looks sick. falken hanabi, 17X9+20 offset, ugly, but 4 lug and 5 lug. There are also a ton of online stores with imported wheels, all the ones with good offsets are 5 lug.

[kazuo]

I emailed 'em and they said 14" only. They have no plans to make any other sizes.

And, provided I COULD get them in the correct bolt pattern/size/offset, I WOULD rock them.

But not gonna happen.

sniff.

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

if i had money i would wear em. but yeh i dont have money to buy a bunch of rims. maybe if i had a corolla

[MugenHonda]

If you aren't going to race, drift, autoX and just want a nice looking car, you won't even notice the weight all that much. Your performance will hardly suffer.
I love how if he were asking opinions on SSR Professors, everyone would be like..... "ooooh, those are the tytest Jdm rimz evaaarr!!!" When in reality, they weigh just as much as those "shitty" Motegi wheels. I say get them, they will look good with the black face/polished lip.

[wootwoot]

^^^ they weigh more...

[Yuri]

Shane, since you work at schwab, you probably get a hook up. You should just get the amp tsukuba with the low offset, do a 5-lug conversion, and rock those 4" rear lips!