Cheapest way for S13 Conversion

[civiceater]

I know I know, I searched, up and down. I just wanted to know where to get the conversion the cheapest. Would it be cheaper to buy a whole thing or to buy them separately? I kinda wanted a cf hood and an aftermarket bumper and fenders. Where to get them is what I ask. Thanks

PS. What's really better besides how much light or color I have? Projectors or non? I mean I'm not going for show, but just to have a conversion. Doesn't really matter.

[nismo2491]

uhh as for the lights if you don't care about light output or looks then just get whichever you find cheapest.

as for your sig: what's a silver spec??
KEvin

[aa87]

Sentra Spec V im guessing.

[civiceater]

Sentra Spec V im guessing.
You got that right. Anyway, I'm looking at ebay right now and I got a plan to get the whole lights conversion around 400 bux, is that cheap? Oh and that's not including the fenders, hood or bumper. It's just the headlamps, corners, r32 grill and the brackets.

[vvtisupra]

peice it together using for sale peices

headlights 150
brackets 40
fenders 200
hood 300
bumper support 50
bumper 200

[RBS14]

all the stock S13's I've seen have S13 front ends stock! Even in the U.S.! You should look at yours closer, it probably has one too.

[Andrew Bohan]

maybe he has an s14.
just buy an s13. it's easier.

[RBS14]

sig says S13.

[BoroBoroS13]

Yea... Im guessing hes a newb and thinks s13 is silvia or something of the sort.

Call up r crew in sf and see if they still have that blue silvia front end lying around. Last time I was there (even though it was months ago) they were trying to dump it on me for around $500. I dunno if you can get that kind of price cause I have shoped there before but its worth a shot.

[Andrew Bohan]

sig schmig

[civiceater]

Yea... Im guessing hes a newb and thinks s13 is silvia or something of the sort.

Call up r crew in sf and see if they still have that blue silvia front end lying around. Last time I was there (even though it was months ago) they were trying to dump it on me for around $500. I dunno if you can get that kind of price cause I have shoped there before but its worth a shot.
I'm not a noob in the world of 240's, it's my first car, and now I got a spec, the car has been sitting for a while since I've been researching with what to do with it. The timing chain guides/tensioners are due for replacement, headlamp motors are going, the bumper has a huge paint missing, crack of course, that's why I'm looking into it. It's just that I haven't been here so much that I dont know where to look for them cheap. I may finally end up with a deal with a whole conversion for around 600, I might get it lower since the hood they have is dented. I plan to get CF hood on it anyway.

Also just to let you also know that my 240 is not an s13, and never will. It could be the same chassis, but no, it won't have an SR20 like a lot here already, it will have a KA turbo on it. Or it could have a custom 13.5:1 comp ratio that will run on race gas when I run it on a track. I don't want to sound cocky, it's just that I hate it when people call me noob when I'm really not. I have yet to finish Corky Bell's turbo book so the project will be on hold right on the body until I get enough money to actually do the motor. And yea I'll be going to Wyotech in Fremont to further my studies so yea....me = not so much of a noob ;)

I have the ;) on it so please dont be offended. We were all once a noob too. Thanks for the tip.

[G_Fish240]

you car is an s13, look in your engine bay. I don't know why people always thinknig calling a car s13 or s14 means its japanese. Your car is either a RHS13 or RMS13

[citizen]

Also just to let you also know that my 240 is not an s13, and never will. It could be the same chassis, but no, it won't have an SR20 like a lot here already, it will have a KA turbo on it. ....me = not so much of a noob ;)
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YOU FUCKING NEWB! Thanks for PROVING beyond a reasonable doubt your newbness. you fail!!! do not pass go, do not collect $200...

[Andrew Bohan]

"it is better to leave your mouth shut and be thought a fool than you open your mouth and remove all doubt"

[cfinch]

I'm not a noob in the world of 240's, it's my first car, and now I got a spec, the car has been sitting for a while since I've been researching with what to do with it. The timing chain guides/tensioners are due for replacement, headlamp motors are going, the bumper has a huge paint missing, crack of course, that's why I'm looking into it. It's just that I haven't been here so much that I dont know where to look for them cheap. I may finally end up with a deal with a whole conversion for around 600, I might get it lower since the hood they have is dented. I plan to get CF hood on it anyway.

Also just to let you also know that my 240 is not an s13, and never will. It could be the same chassis, but no, it won't have an SR20 like a lot here already, it will have a KA turbo on it. Or it could have a custom 13.5:1 comp ratio that will run on race gas when I run it on a track. I don't want to sound cocky, it's just that I hate it when people call me noob when I'm really not. I have yet to finish Corky Bell's turbo book so the project will be on hold right on the body until I get enough money to actually do the motor. And yea I'll be going to Wyotech in Fremont to further my studies so yea....me = not so much of a noob ;)

I have the ;) on it so please dont be offended. We were all once a noob too. Thanks for the tip.

13:5:1 comp ratio in a turbo ka and were not supposed to think your an idiot? You just picked up a book on turbos and your going to be going to a domestic/hotrod school someday and that makes you know your stuff? I dont care what you read it doesnt mean anything till you put your hands on something. To further prove how much of an idiot you are you bought a sentra and wasted money on it....

[biggie]

13:5:1 comp ratio in a turbo ka and were not supposed to think your an idiot?

Just for fun here, apparently you should read closer. He said KA-T "OR" 13.5:1 engine. Not the combination of the 2.

Oh and most people know when S13 Conversion is said, it is assumed that you are talking about the Silvia front. Otherwise it is listed as 180sx conversion.

And as for looking for Silvia fronts, if you want aftermarket everything just buy the pieces from different places. Search around, there is no one place that will probably give you the best deal on all of it.

[MakotoS13]

YOU FUCKING NEWB! Thanks for PROVING beyond a reasonable doubt your newbness. you fail!!! do not pass go, do not collect $200...

fuggin beat me to it. this kid won't last long.

[s13Dr1ft]

Dood, you have Newb written all over yourself. lol...

[Var]

the username civiceater gave it away for me. It's one of those..let's-pick-on-civics-for-no-reason-because-i-joined-a-board-full-of-people-who-probably-hate-civics-cause-they-all-have-RWD-cars-and-they-all-must-drift kinda name

or maybe a i-cant-believe-i-used-to-like-civics-in-freshman-year-and-thank-god-i-found-out-FWD-was-uncool-by-sophomore-year-before-i-jumped-on-the-wrong-bandwagon-so-now-i-have-to-make-a-username-that-makes-people-think-i-always-hated-them kinda name

[JaeTea]

"it is better to leave your mouth shut and be thought a fool than you open your mouth and remove all doubt"

OH god thats fucking great!! :bigok:

[DocTaDrifT]

i think you should buy a frist class ticket to japan then get off the plane go to a used car dealer buy a S13 with a CF hood (just like you want) find someone to ship it back to the states for like a million dollars then get back on the plane come home and pick up your car in LBC harbor (im guessing) and bring me some of those nuts you get off the plane

[RedlineRacer]

Ok, just to let you know that all 89-94 240sx/Silvia's are called S13's. Thats just the chassis code. It doesn't mean it is US or JDM.

Anyway, if you are serious about buying a s13 silvia front for your car then I would suggest buying a complete conversion from someone. I got a guy near me that sells them for $900. Thats usually how much they go for. unlike what vvtisupra said:
peice it together using for sale peices

headlights 150
brackets 40
fenders 200
hood 300
bumper support 50
bumper 200

If you add that up, it comes to $940. And you're gonna be lucky if you can find a bumper support for 40 and headlights for 150. If you do they are in horrible condition. I made the mistake of piecing mine together like vvtisupra suggested, and I spent close to $1300. But I have an aftermarket bumper and I got non-projector headlights. Good luck trying to find a bumper support by itself, cause it took me 4 months to find one because they are never on ebay and most people that import them don't want to sell them by themselves. Just make sure you don't use shitty parts if you go aftermarket.

[the head]

if you get a FG bumper you dont need the bumper support

[nismo2491]

so this whole time I've been calling my 240sx fastback an s13 I was wrong? oh no. this is the worst day ever!

yead man all the 240sx/silvia/180sx are s13, unless they are an s14. its the chasis code, like eg for a civic doesn't matter if its ex, si, dx or whatever its still an eg (yeah i know eg is probably a integra but whatever)
KEvin

[FaLKoN240]

eg for a civic doesn't matter if its ex, si, dx or whatever its still an eg (yeah i know eg is probably a integra but whatever)
KEvin

You're right, that's a 92-95 Civic hatchback ;D

[civiceater]

hahahahaha

[civiceater]

Wow.......you guys are really funny...You guys are like parasites...just because I wasn't being clear of what I really wanted (which I did btw, it was on the first post) you flame the crap out of me. HAHA is what I say to you. What I wanted was a front end conversion, that was it. Was that hard? I mean it was written on the first post that I was talking about the front end and nothing more and you guys come in "ooh this guy doesn't know what he's talking about and I'll go ahead and waste time and space flaming this guy", what do I have to prove to you guys? Nothing. I know where I'm at and you can keep flaming me for that, whatever. Oh btw, just because I don't post so much here, doesnt mean I dont know crap about what you guys are talking about.

BTW, thanks for the peeps who just gave info and didn't flame. I'll still come here for info, but no I won't be intimidated by those who just wants to flame. I got my flamesuit on biatches!!! ;)

[Andrew Bohan]

is it really that hard just to say "silvia front?"
that's all we need to be happy. :mepoke:

[Var]

and i quote


"Also just to let you also know that my 240 is not an s13, and never will"


so wtf would you want an s13 front end for?

[MakotoS13]

Wow.......you guys are really funny...You guys are like parasites...just because I wasn't being clear of what I really wanted (which I did btw, it was on the first post) you flame the crap out of me. HAHA is what I say to you. What I wanted was a front end conversion, that was it. Was that hard? I mean it was written on the first post that I was talking about the front end and nothing more and you guys come in "ooh this guy doesn't know what he's talking about and I'll go ahead and waste time and space flaming this guy",

first of all you wasted our time and our space.

par·a·site P Pronunciation Key (pr-st)
n.
Biology. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.

it appears that you are the parasite in this forum. we could give you the info you want and do that to every other pussy that walks through that door. we could encourage the atrophy of your mind but we don't and we won't.

deal, grow, or go buy a honda to put your brand new "s13" face on.

pm me if you'd like to be insulted further.

[OptionZero]

Dude, he must be cool. He calls his Sentra a "Spec".

[ruthlesstyper]

haha. I love you guys.

[Chillaxed 240sx]

I honestly believe that Nissan owners are the hardest to get along with ...

[MakotoS13]

I honestly believe that Nissan owners are the hardest to get along with ...

thats probably the dumbest thing you're ever going to say. do you think all black people live in trees and throw spears really well? you gonna say my mexican grama is an illegal alien?

[OptionZero]

Only the ones that drive Nissans.

[civiceater]

Actually when I said "parasite" I'm talking about the guys who can't give info but still give me crap or talk shiat. I mean they have fun and I'm still left with nothing, doesn't that sound like a parasite? Anyway OptionZero I call it, so as a lot of SE-R Spec V owners their cars spec because of the name. It's a shortcut thing. And westbourough, I'm saying it will never be a real S13, since it won't be RHD, and it won't have an SR. That's why it will never be 1. Chillaxed, I don't believe what you said, cuz how come the Nissan community with the same car (eg.240sx or a sentra) do get along well? I mean me and my buddies with Spec V's don't have a problem...

[ruthlesstyper]

And westbourough, I'm saying it will never be a real S13, since it won't be RHD, and it won't have an SR.

A lot of the REAL s13's I see are LHD and have a KA. :faint:

[civiceater]

A lot of the REAL s13's I see are LHD and have a KA. :faint:
Well, where did the REAL S13 come from anyway?

Oh btw, for info, I bought my 240 back in 99, when pro-drifting is nowhere near here. A lot of the 240's owners, not saying all of you, bought their cars because of the fad and now that they have a lot of mods and stuff think they're gods that didn't go thru the "being a noob" phase. If you guys asked me if what I meant was then I would've gladly answered "my bad, I was thinking of the front end conversion", but you guys had to go kill the thread by flaming me. Grow up you guys.

[ruthlesstyper]

From Nissan.

[s14falcon]

do a search for nissan chassis codes my man. All 89-94 240sx IS s13. s13 isnt some magic jdm tyte term that means only japan market silvias and 180sx with sr. ALL of them are s13, even if its a 240sx with a ka in america. its the general chassis code, they get more specific if you want engine and body style and all that. go read.

[civiceater]

From Nissan.
hehehe, nice answer...I guess : :rolleyes:

[ThatGuy]

CivicEater, pay attention. S13 is the chassis code. A USDM 240sx is a S13, a 180sx in Japan is a S13, a 89-94 Silvia is a S13. Saying a car is a S13 does not make it RHD or SR equipped, it simply means it's built on the S13 chassis. Thus the reason for calling it a CHASSIS CODE.

Now let that marinate in your brain-housing for a minute or two.

[MakotoS13]

Actually when I said "parasite" I'm talking about the guys who can't give info but still give me crap or talk shiat.

oh i have info. apparently my brain is a fuggin 240SX service manual compared to your feeble mind.



I mean they have fun and I'm still left with nothing, doesn't that sound like a parasite?


it sounds like you SUCK at school.


Anyway OptionZero I call it, so as a lot of SE-R Spec V owners their cars spec because of the name. It's a shortcut thing.

glad you pointed that out. we were all thumbs on that one.


how come the Nissan community with the same car (eg.240sx or a sentra) do get along well? I mean me and my buddies with Spec V's don't have a problem...

idunno but the one owner of a specV i know is a pussy that knows dick about cars, can't drive for hell, and owes me money.

[civiceater]

...ok...I guess....I made a mistake of calling it s13 rather than a silvia conversion, but the fact that on the 4th reply, he was talking about body components and I didn't reply to negate it in any way like "oh man thanks, but I wasn't talking about it". And then those guys started to flame me because I made a mistake like they never made one. It's just BS. I didn't mean this to become a stupid thread, but they had to start flaming me for whatever reason they can think of. I'm not asking to be criticized, I was simply asking where to buy them cheap. I guess it was so hard to answer that we had to make this into a flamefest.

[MakotoS13]

you didn't ask for anything.

you told everyone in here to make fun of you.

so we did/are.

sounds like you better get a helmet, waterhead.

[s13irdie2]

oh man you guys are too funny. btw, check the groupbuys. they have specials on the conversion sometimes. last time i checked it was like 750 for the whole kit.

[DocTaDrifT]

i have SE-R spec V seats in my S14 so i think im going to start calling them SPEC seats woot woot

do i sound cooler now? :fruit:

[s13irdie2]

oh yeah. your coolness factor is up at least 10 points. at least. :)

[DocTaDrifT]

yay for me :ghey: haha

[MakotoS13]

hell and we didn't even go into zenki, chuki, and kouki stuff. this kid is pretty bad off.

[gario-]

So you get an s26 when you do an s13 conversion. be careful! :D

[BoroBoroS13]

I tried to help you out by telling others you were a newb so you wouldnt get flamed so hard for getting such simple facts so mixed up and I told you a good shop in the bay area thats selling a silivia or "s13" front end for half the retail price and you go off on me with some fat ass post. Dont worry, I wont take offense to it at all though like you said but it seems that other members have.

[civiceater]

*sigh* fine....I apologize to people who got offended by my words, I apologize I didn't use the correct term so as to not to throw you guys. Sorry. Mods, please close this down or delete it. I'll just go ahead and make a new thread.

[Andrew Bohan]

^^ that's more like it.

i would help you now but i don't know where the cheap conversions are. :yum:

[nismo2491]

the reason everybody is getting on you is because you keep insisting its not a "real s13" because its not RHD and sr'd. well bud sorry to burst your bubble but s13's came in both lhd and rhd and w/ ka motor, sr motor, and ca motor. so get over that your car is an s13.
'88-'90 S13 Silvia CA18DET
'90-'91 RS13 180SX CA18DET (R for fastback)
'91-'93 PS13 Silvia SR20DET (P for SR)
'91-'98 RPS13 180SX SR20DET (no distinction between the two different minor model change, last minor change was the inclusion of the double round lights and a more squarish front bumper.)
'91-'93 KPS13 Silvia (K for SuperHicas)
'91-'93 KRPS13 180SX
'89-'90 HS13 240SX KA24E (H for KA24E)
'89-'90 RHS13 240SX FB
'91-'94 MS13 240SX (dunno chassis code for convertables)
'91-'93 RMS13 240SX FB(M for KA24DE)
'91-'93 KRMS13 240SX FB w/ SuperHicas
'91-'93 KMS13 240SX w/ SuperHicas (Canadian market only).
those are the codes and in there it to be said that they are all s13's. mine would be a 91 krms13 if you want to get technical. a REAL s13, the one that is strictly an s13 doesn't even have an sr, it has a ca so buddy stfu and learn before you start to talk. cause you know what, so fart you haven't done anything but make an ass out of yourself.
KEvin

[NISMO82]

Dude, he must be cool. He calls his Sentra a "Spec".

dude you must be a fucking retard.
Do you think he just pulled "spec" out of his ass.
it's a sentra se-r spec v


you people on this board are so fucking ignorant.
He asked a simple question. not for you pieces of shit to get all over his back because of what kinda car he drives. Me personally I would take the Spec any day over a 240.

with that said I'm done with this board and you can all kiss my ass
:fawkd: :fawkd:

[the head]

with that said I'm done with this board and you can all kiss my ass
:fawkd: :fawkd:


With all of the questions you have helped us all with I am sure you will be missed.

finally broke 1k posts werd

[AllenRPS13]

and i quote


"Also just to let you also know that my 240 is not an s13, and never will"


so wtf would you want an s13 front end for?

haha, u are right!

[RedlineRacer]

if you get a FG bumper you dont need the bumper support

You still need it. What happens if you run into something? If you don't have a bumper support it is going to break you bumper (not like it takes much to do that anyway) and then your radiator support and radiator is going next, and it that doesnt take all the impact then your engine will take the rest of the force. If you have a bumper support, it is attached to your frame and your frame will take the force and not your vital parts.

Thats the whole reason why it is there. That, and to help hold up your bumper.

[MakotoS13]

i've driven a few "spec v's" and the cars are cool but limited by the fact that its a freakin economy sedan... RWD owns you.

[the head]

You still need it. What happens if you run into something? If you don't have a bumper support it is going to break you bumper (not like it takes much to do that anyway) and then your radiator support and radiator is going next, and it that doesnt take all the impact then your engine will take the rest of the force. If you have a bumper support, it is attached to your frame and your frame will take the force and not your vital parts.

Thats the whole reason why it is there. That, and to help hold up your bumper.

If you have an intercooler it will take the brunt of the impact because you have to cut out the bumper support to make it fit then it loses all of it's structural integrety anyways and as for holding up the bumper mine has been on for over a year now with 4 bolts and two zipties with no problems so you are wrong

[TiNMAN]

dude you must be a fucking retard.
Do you think he just pulled "spec" out of his ass.
it's a sentra se-r spec v


you people on this board are so fucking ignorant.
He asked a simple question. not for you pieces of shit to get all over his back because of what kinda car he drives. Me personally I would take the Spec any day over a 240.

with that said I'm done with this board and you can all kiss my ass
:fawkd: :fawkd:



are you guys thinkin, what im thinking?

[Var]

definitely the same guy

[nismo2491]

yeah probably the same guy
and as for bumper supports the i/c doesn't have energy management built into it like the bumper support does, the bumper support moves all the energy from the impact into the frame rails and causes the crumple zones to do their job and for the frame to absorb a lot of the energy making you a lot safer in an accident.
hey its not nescessary but it does help. I don't have mine though so....
KEvin

[ThatGuy]

This thread has reached it's end. Hopefully CivicEater and NISMO82 are not the same individual, if so both names will be BANNED for violating the User Agreement.

*edit* Well they are in luck, they don't seem to be the same person. Probably just a fellow "Spec" owner trying to stick up for his homie. :rofl:







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