F*%#@ING FRAUD please help

[sepulchral]

Situation is being resolved wiht me and seller jdmking671!

[justinhustle]

a. wrong forum

b. when you sent the money with paypal

where did it come from?

if it was visa/mc/amex/etc call the credit card company n file a fraud report

if it was debit, its harder to do, but go to your branch and file a fraud claim

[Ritz S14]

Have you e-mailed him?

[orion::S14]

Google of that e-mail resulted in:

http://www.rx7club.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2005-1-23&c=1

Have to register, but it looks like he's on there...assuming it's the same guy. Birthday of Jan 23rd...maybe that can help you track this a'hole down. Then cut his fucking hands off...

- Brian

[evilimport]

Some people are just real assholes.... Sorry to hear about this fraud bullshit... I got burned once on ebay with an exhaust manifold that was suposed to be new but ended up being a pile of exhaust runners with the turbo flange cut off of it....worthless...And I actually found the guy with the same email address as I bought the manifold from on these forums trying to sell shit...I confronted him about this in a thread and havent seen him since.....dick.

[sepulchral]

sorry if its wrong forrum thats the least of my worries... my bank is gay

[rancid240]

this guy is on a lot of forums like nico, 240sxforums etc.

I know because I see his name on yahoo.co.jp auctions every once in a while.

that blows big time though man, good luck.

[seiyess]

dude, this is not a wrong forum! if there is an a'hole who sells trash, then we need to know and cutt his touge out and burn it! :bite: :rl:

[Var]

1-sorry

2-dont buy used shocks, especially ones that are made in japan and arent rebuildable here

3-dont buy stuff from ebay unless it's an ebay store with a lotta good feedback

To clear up a detail...did you actually win this item in an auction, or contact the seller and bought an extra set that he had OUTSIDE of ebay? This would be even more shady. He could have just canceled the ebay auction and sold you that set with no worries about negative feedback.

and 1100 bucks is too much for used coilovers from a stranger bruh. Sorry again for your loss and you're probably not gonna see your money again.

[HyperTek]

how often is some1 going to say "oh yah I have another set of XXXXXX coilovers just like the other ones". if its that easy to rip people.. i might just have ot do that.. jk.. but seriously. Dont trust no one 05 <-- my new slogan for the new year.

imma go submit his email addy to porn spam for shits and giggles..

[sepulchral]

he said hardly used stil shiny these are def. not, im just a sucker.

[silviaz]

good luck. this is what you need.

[Ghettokracker71]

im just a sucker.


Hmm....What is his feedback rating? I never ever buy on eBay unless the person is somebody that I've had freinds deal with,or has a really good rating....I've never been ripped off.


Either way,thats alot of money,and a big hassle. Sorry to hear about that man :rl:

[RSP13-Sideways]

Screw Paypal, it uses your credit card or debit card. Don't go through them, dispute with your credit card company, they'll take care of it for ya.

Either way you look at it, one word. CHAREBACK!

[mrmephistopheles]

Either way you look at it, one word. CHAREBACK!

Are you trying to say 'chargeback'?

[Advan]

Which is why, I choose not to deal with ebay. Sorry to hear about what happen.

[91CRXsiR]

open a dispute thru paypal if the item is not as described they you DO have a right to open a case.

call them they have a 1-800 number
and if you used a credit card to pay thru paypal you can also file a chargeback with your CC company, and the carrier that shipped the item you can also file a fraud claim with them. His paypal account should have his address. You could also contact ebay to get his address.

I know for a fact that eBay and paypal is setup to screw the sellers and protect the buyers cuz im a seller =) the nazi bastards

[evilimport]

To clear up a detail...did you actually win this item in an auction, or contact the seller and bought an extra set that he had OUTSIDE of ebay? This would be even more shady. He could have just canceled the ebay auction and sold you that set with no worries about negative feedback.

and 1100 bucks is too much for used coilovers from a stranger bruh. Sorry again for your loss and you're probably not gonna see your money again.
I agree with this completely....

[evilimport]

I know for a fact that eBay and paypal is setup to screw the sellers and protect the buyers cuz im a seller =) the nazi bastards
This is true for me too!!

[susuki1220]

i previously bought some rims from this guy before. He seems to have pretty good positive feebacks. But it seems that he never wanted to answer any more of my mails after that buy. I was thinking to purchase more rims from him, but he never emailed me back.

I saw him selling a few used coilovers on email, but it seems like everyone else got their coilovers and in good working condition from the feebacks. I would keep trying to email him.

[RSP13-Sideways]

Are you trying to say 'chargeback'?

Glad you were able to put two and two together....haha
Yes I was trying to say "chargeback".

[Masa]

my friend bought rims from this guy... not at all what was described. one of the rims was bent, two was missing valve stems and rash all around. talked to a couple other people that bought rims from him and they also had the same experience. just that no one wants to leave negative feedback because of retaliation.

[RSP13-Sideways]

my friend bought rims from this guy... not at all what was described. one of the rims was bent, two was missing valve stems and rash all around. talked to a couple other people that bought rims from him and they also had the same experience. just that no one wants to leave negative feedback because of retaliation.

If you leave negative feedback, and he leaves negative for you it can be fixed easily. Just email EBay and let them know what happened. If there are 3 people that leave negative feedback all around the same time, EBay will obviously see a trend starting and kick the fu**** off.

[sepulchral]

i got the f*CKErs address :) what should i do with it guys? Im going to talk to my lawyer on monday cuz paypal and ebay wont help

[bb6]

i got the f*CKErs address :) what should i do with it guys? Im going to talk to my lawyer on monday cuz paypal and ebay wont help

Its hard to trust people on the internet when buying used parts. It is ALWAYS a risk. You dont know what the history of any part is. Look at YOUR very own post here:

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=70446

You are selling these exact coilovers you just got claiming they are in great condition but you hadnt really even recieved them yet. Are these the same coilovers?

[link240]

Its hard to trust people on the internet when buying used parts. It is ALWAYS a risk. You dont know what the history of any part is. Look at YOUR very own post here:

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=70446

You are selling these exact coilovers you just got claiming they are in great condition but you hadnt really even recieved them yet. Are these the same coilovers?

i think those are his old ones?

[bb6]

i think those are his old ones?

not according to his webpage.
http://www.bizlocker.com/project240/

[sepulchral]

Situation is being resolved wiht me and seller jdmking671!

[sepulchral]

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[RSP13-Sideways]

If you have a Lawyer have them contact him. I wouldn't spend any money on a lawyer because it's a waste of time. Did you ever try doing that chargeback through your credit card?

[thx247]

file suit in small claims against him, hire a paper server to serve him papers, get a judgement passed against him, make his life hell. MAYBE...MAYBE you'll get your money back. Odds are you won't, but atleast you've slowed him down.

[sepulchral]

lawyer is my uncle so no money spent

[sepulchral]

lawyer is my uncle so no money spent

I called him and he answered and he hung up on me....

[Var]

now get another lawyer and sue your uncle for the trauma he caused

[mbmbmb23]

If you went thru paypal you better file your claim w/in 30 days or they cant do anything. If I were you I'd have your uncle draft a certified formal letter threatening a lawsuit, and have it delivered "confirmation delivery" to this guy's residence. You could take him to civil court, but you need to have all your evidence (emails, ebay printoffs, etc.). It's hard to put a value on used items, but it will be up to you to prove to the judge that $1,100 is WAAAY too much for what you received.



-m

[sepulchral]

now get another lawyer and sue your uncle for the trauma he caused

lol what are you talking about i havent even talked to my uncle/lawyer anyways




GOOD NEWS

the guy responded he said hed replace them, he said to send them back to him, should i ask him for proof that he will send back good coilovers?

[mbmbmb23]

lol what are you talking about i havent even talked to my uncle/lawyer anyways


GOOD NEWS

the guy responded he said hed replace them, he said to send them back to him, should i ask him for proof that he will send back good coilovers?


Make sure you send them "confirmation signature delivery" and take pics of the busted ones before you send them back. He may be stalling you until the time you have to file with ebay/paypal runs out.

[nismo2491]

uhhh what's to say he doesn't just keep the money if you send them back?
KEvin

[sepulchral]

i am going to call paypal to see if theyll protect me on this one.

[CylonFrakker]

I called his house and he is in Japan. He sends parts to his dad who sells them on ebay. His father is unknowledgable about parts and does not know what is going on. I have threatened to take him to court over some coilovers he sold me about 2 months ago that I never received and never got my money back. Thanks for his address I needed it back. I have a process server who will serve him paper some time this week. Thanks guys I will pin this bastard to the wall.

[SoCalSilvia]

if you send them back, you wouldn't be able to use them as evidence in court. tell him to send you the coilovers or your money back, and then you will send the shocks back.

[CoasTek240]

if you send them back, you wouldn't be able to use them as evidence in court. tell him to send you the coilovers or your money back, and then you will send the shocks back.
besides, theres nothing that he can do with them anyways.. from the looks of it on the other thread you have, one of the shocks is broken in half. whats he going to do with that. sounds like a diversionary tactic.

[infinitexsound]

keep the shocks, have him send some new ones.. print everything for evidence. record all your phone calls.. take his ass to court and sue him, gather as many ppl who got screwed by him.. and have them do the same.. get your money back and some...send his ass to prison for fraud.... thats what i would .. whats worse then having your hands cutoff is being gangraped by a 300 pound gorilla lookin dudes named tyrone and tyson..

[sepulchral]

haha... if only it was that easy.. he hasnt emiled him back

[katbak]

Screw Paypal, it uses your credit card or debit card. Don't go through them, dispute with your credit card company, they'll take care of it for ya.

Either way you look at it, one word. CHAREBACK!


Paypal uses your credit or debit card if you have it directly linked to your credit or debit card. It can use your bank or pre-deposited cash. And how does that point = screw them? It's just as if you pulled cash out of an ATM and handed it using your credit card.

If it did infact use your credit card then you can file a fraud complaint with the CC company.

But I think you know too little about paypal. You cannot chargeback this because there is proof of shipment (provided the scammer is smart enough to keep it).


EDIT:
And also, the time period for a complaint via paypal and ebay is 30 days.
It was mentioned above, but thats the time period.

[upinsmoke]

Paypal is bullshit. They wont help you unless you get whoever your bank/credit card, wherever you got the money to send through paypal to get involved. Ive been scammed a few times but always been able to get my money back because I got my bank and the IFCC involved.

[thx247]

PP sucks, in the user agreement you agree not to withold payment on credit card purchases. fuck pp.

I wouldn't send this guy shit, he needs to send you 1,100 or what you ordered before you send him anything.

[SoCalSilvia]

this guy is still at it...someone should email the guy bidding on these used coilovers and warn him

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6755&item=4523958812&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

also, check it out-

"I HAVE SEVERAL OTHER COILOVERS IN STOCK EMAIL ME IF INTERESTED
JIC'S
ZEAL'S
HKS
KEI OFFICE
TEIN"

[elevator]

He could get in MAJOR DEEP kimchee for using an APO/FPO to ship items for profit. If you report this to his command/USPS he is screwed.

[jdmking671]

First off I would like to say you are only hearing one side of the story. And that story is not completely true.

Well anyways, let me begin buy telling you what really happend.
Yes, i do sell items on ebay, and Yes, most items are used. I clearly state that on all my items i sell. You, as the buyer should know what kind of risk you are taking buy buying used items not just from me but from anyone. No, im not trying to say that I sell crap to rip people off, if i did i wouldnt last long on ebay in the first place. Look at all my past items, i try to sell good quality items. Most of the people that bought from me were happy with my items about 98.01%. Im not gonna go into details about buying used items and expect it to be brand new. Everyone is responsible for their own actions.

Let's talk about this situation we have at hand.
Sepulchral emails me and ask if i was willing to sell him a set of HKS Dampers and he was willing to buy it now. So knows these items are used and that conditions vary. He didnt bid on the item that was posted on ebay someone else won that. He was too anxious to buy the Dampers so quick he paid me like the next day. He offered me 875.00 for the Dampers not 1100 like he claims. 150.00 covered the shipping and handling fee. That was my flat rate charge.

875.00
-150.00
--------
725.00 for a Set of HKS Hipermax
it may seem alot of money but that is nothing compared to paying for it new.

for a set of Used HKS Hipermax
These retail for 2199.00 Brand new not including shipping
2199.00 plus shipping
875.00 the price he offered me with shipping

what kind of dampers are you gonna expect. 1 out of 4 dampers has a oil leak. Front damping dials are bent but you can still dial in for dampening. the rest have minor scratches due to normal wear and tear. Nothing else wrong with the Dampers. Even he admits it in his email.
Again do the math, 2199.00 or 725.00 and may cost about 100.00 for repairs but he is still coming out on top. If they were in Great condition i would have not sold them for that price.

Well anyways, after all the name calling and harrassing i still offfered to help him out. I asked if i can replace the strut that has oil leaking, and i felt compelled to help this kid. I told him i would help him out and even offered to pay if he wanted to get it fixed even though it really isn't my problem anymore.

And even after today, i learned about this nasty thread and having my info post on the web.
Michael McDonough my offer still stands.


Oh, and SUPRAFLAME, I dont know who the hell you are, Not once did I ever sell you a set of coilovers that you didnt recieve or i kept your money. How can i get away with your money, i deal only through paypal and i have to prove to them that i shipped out your item. And if you did buy something from me then why did you never file a claim stating that you never recieved your item. :mrmeph:

My parents have your info when called harrassing them. I definately know I never sold you anything next time you call, my parents will give the Police you info.

[AllenRPS13]

wow... different story...
buying used part on ebay always is a risk...

[bb6]

wow... different story...
buying used part on ebay always is a risk...

Waiting on a reply from Sepulchral.... :blah:

[Pank]

damnit.....now i want to buy some coilovers.

[brianglawson]

jdmking......many props for comin to defend yourself... i think you both need to have a phone call and calmly work it out but jdmking does have a good point....you get what you pay for

[nissantuner22]

Anyone got one of those cool "OWND" pics?

[Var]

I say it's fair game AS LONG AS the buyer was told that one of the struts was blown and one of the dials was bent. These were obvious defects that were noticed by the buyer as soon as he opened the box. If he wasnt aware of these defects before he paid, it's not fair for him to have to keep them, although at this point he should get them rebuilt and slap 'em on. Even with rebuilding all 4 shocks he would probably still come out cheaper than brand new. But that's really not the point.

[CylonFrakker]

Arguing on internet is useless. This suckz

[Var]

who's telling the truth here?


http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative4.jpg

[sepulchral]

I was told they were in good condition, one was not, and the seller is taking responsible action and helping me out, thanks jdmking671

[AllenRPS13]

that's good news! sepulchral! good luck!

[katbak]

I say it's fair game AS LONG AS the buyer was told that one of the struts was blown and one of the dials was bent.

Amen...

I guess a good deal doesn't exist anymore...
So please, if your getting something discounted, take into account that it's most likely worthless and/or broken.
But don't expect the seller to tell you :x:
I've been on ebay for years...
This makes me sick :barf:

[sepulchral]

all is being resolved guys, this guy is ocming through for me

[sepulchral]

case closed............... :bigok:

[nismo2491]

good to hear
KEvin