tracking on repaired tires ?

[mike2016]

ok this sucks, my brand new toyo RA-1 got nailed and it's leaking slowly. :madfawk: :madfawk: :(

i found the spot where it got nailed but i didn't pull it out... i am going to have it repaired tomorrow.

is it ok to track it??

[Var]

sorry to hear.i dont know if it's safe to track. there are plugs and patches. i think a patch from the inside is safer cause it cant pop out.

[PinkPanther]

As long as its not on the tread or sidewall (obviously) and you use a plugpatch it should be fine. :coold:

[idlafie]

Took a plastic tooth comb in my Bridgestone Potenza's the Saturday of the 2002 Nissan 240SX National meet. Came back to my car at 4 in the afternoon & found out my right rear passenger tire was flat. I had to pop my spare on in the parking lot of the Nissan HQ building, then drive down the road to find the nearest tire repair spot at like 5 pm in the evening!! Luckily I found a mom & pop shop down the street that patched the leak in less than an hour. Drove up to Lancaster that night from Gardena area & then raced the hell out of it, (100+mph...3 track runs in 100+ degree heat..track road heat was probably 130+...sure did bubble the edges of my tire good!!), the following day on the Streets of Willow track. Didn't have any problems at all. Your Toyo's ought to be the same once you get it patched....you should be able to track it without any problems.
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[Brian]

i ran a whole drift event on a tire with a screw in it. held air fine for the whole event. i was suprised/pleased.

[wootwoot]

A lot of the times places will let it go after patching it with it leaking. Make them show it to you before installing it on your car. Patches=good plugs=bad

[thx247]

Patch and plug if you choose to fix it. Is it safe? Technically speaking no its not. The plug or patch could fail and the tire could deflate. If you were running willow springs or CA speedway...I wouldn't run that tire. 100mph turns scare me.

If I was running sows, I wouldn't care as much. Replacing it is like cheap insurance vs the cost of a wrecked car or worse. That said I've run a few patched and plugged tires to no ill effect, but I wouldn't run a highspeed track with them still.

[mikespeed95]

if done right it wil be fine. if not it may fail, but you really have to screw it up to make it screw up.

[thx247]

Tire temps can get over 250F, say the glue debonds at high temps, then where are you?

[mike2016]

got it patched from the inside today, they sanded some rubber off the area where it got nailed, heated it and applied glue on it, then patched.

the temp inside the tire can't get as hot as outside, right?

[thx247]

Probably not as hot as the outside surface, but it would get close. RA-1's in particular, you run them down to 2/32nds of an inch without a second thought. The thinner it gets the hotter to inside will get.

I'm not saying don't run them, I'd just try and think about where I'd be running them. High speed tracks I would not run it.

[the head]

Tire temps can get over 250F, say the glue debonds at high temps, then where are you?

if pached properly this will not occur

proper patch application
1. rough surface
2. soak with cleaner fluid and scrape down
3. light cleaner fluid allow to burn off
4. apply adhesive
5. apply patch, roll with pinwheel to remove bubbles

most places leave out the lighting of the cleaner fluid to heat the rubber if you have a car that sees high tire temps (racing, drifting, ect.) you cannot do with out that step to get the patch to properly bond with the rubber of the tire

[wootwoot]

We did not even use adhesive, we used a chemical compound. Basically the hotter it gets the better it sealed.

[ledzeppelin240]

Another way:

-Grind Area (not down to the chords)
-Clean with a cleaning fluid, scrape off
-Apply special adhesive, allow to dry
-Apply patch on the tire (while out of any holding device so the tire is not stretched
-Then bond them with the roller wheel thing

According to GoodYear you can put one patch in a tire and still retain the speed rating and everything else.