s13's are NOT ugly damnit!

[rubbersidedown]

That's it, i can't take it anymore. I was talking to some kid today and i was tellin him about the 240 because he was all interested in buying a sports car. He was lookin through his compact sports car magazine or whatever and he said he really didn't like how the 240 looked. I had a look for myself and it only showed the s14. Personally i'm a big fan of the s13 so i told him to search for one online or something. I talk to him the next day and he's like "yeah, i saw one finally. Its cool lookin but it looks like a ford probe". I flipped! I've heard people make that reference before but i haven't heard that in a long long time. I feel there is a very slight resemblance between the two but i have never and will never mistake a s13 240sx for a probe or vice vs. Maybe its just me, but i think that every probe ever made is the ugliest hunk of metal i've ever seen in my life. Is anyone else upset about the whole "s13 looks like a probe" thing or is that just me as well? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

[KiDyNomiTe]

S13s are sooo nice looking. I hate probes, the only thing similar is the lights and hatchback, I love the back of S13s like 100 times more than Probes.

[SimpleS14]

I don't have a S-13 and this is the second time I heard this. &nbsp;But I understand how it is when they mistake your car for something not even close. &nbsp;I hate it when people mistake my S-14 for a MX-6. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

[rubbersidedown]

well its not just that the ford probe doesn't look anything like but come on.. its a ford probe they're comparing it too! American and a hunk of shit &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

[Chairman Kaga]

The Ford Probe is no more a Ford than a Geo/Chevy Prism is a Geo/Chevy. The Probe shares every mechanical bit, including the drivetrain, suspension, and brakes with the Mazda MX-6/626 Family, even the subframe is the same. Where as I don't personally care for the looks either, they are a formidable autocross/roadrace car in GT trim, and the old 2.2 intercooled turbo 5 speeds make great winter beater/ sleeper cars...

[KiDyNomiTe]

Ya I have heard people comparing 240 to MX-6 the only similarity is the head lights are almost the same size (but they are split). My brother hasa Mazda MX-6 and I am wonderign if I could beat him. His is auto and when I get my S13 (summertime, it will be auto). Who would win?

[240 2NR]

I walked into some huge auto mall outside of chicago looking for a 3rd gen RX-7 last summer. &nbsp;So I sit down with the guy and tell him what I'm looking for and he's clueless. &nbsp;A minute later he's like, oh is that the one that looks like a probe? &nbsp;I was like well it has flip up headlights, but otherwise it looks like an RX-7. &nbsp;Then he asked if it was a v-6 and I realized I was in the wrong place.

[whateverjames]

when i was about 16, i was getting an old ford probe. until i saw a red 240SX when i was about 17. i was like THAT is the car i'm getting, it looks like a probe except BETTER! so basically, people who don't know shit about cars will say stuff like that. when i got my car, i didn't think it looked like a probe anymore. hell my friend thought my car looked like an avenger at first. wtf

[KiDyNomiTe]

haah omg how could you mistaken such a beautiful and fast car for a crappy car. That is a disgrace, I mean everyone know what an RX-7 is, even people who hate imports have major respect for the RX-7.

My bros car (MX6) is like in real bad condition and my parents have bad problems with used cars now. I need some convincing argurments for them buying an S13.

[LanceS13]

Personally, I like the look of the Probe...it's a crying shame they aren't rwd. &nbsp;I understand what &nbsp;you're &nbsp;saying, &nbsp;though. &nbsp;I'd get erked b/c they thought my car was something it wasn't, but I wouldn't get all pissy about it...not everybody is a car guy/gal, so you can't get mad if they don't know. &nbsp;About the S13's being ugly? &nbsp;I personally think that anybody that says this must be on crack...it's got that classic sports car look. &nbsp;But anyway, it's really just a difference in taste. &nbsp;Like, alot of people here think Mustangs look like ass, but I happen to think the newer ones look pretty mean.

[rubbersidedown]

I would normally get pissed about it Lance, but i just wish people would drop it. I mean, you don't have to know shit about cars to notice visual differences between two objects. I'm sorry but i just don't see it, i don't see it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[whateverjames]

yeah really i think the newest mustangs are the best looking mustangs made.....


besides the 66! &nbsp; i don't see how someone could think a WRX looks badass but not a cobra

[MorganS13]

i've heard people who thought my car was a probe before. &nbsp;a couple of my friends even thought my car was front wheel drive and had a V6 in it for the longest time. &nbsp;boy were they surprised. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[Anubis]

I think that the S14 looks like the toyota soarer from the side. yea anyway

[KiDyNomiTe]

Sum1 wanna answer my question of who would win (240SX S13 maunal vs. MX-6 auto V6)

[whateverjames]

a 240sx will beat a "five speed" mx6. auto shouldn't be a problem

[DSC]

I think probes, s13's and old porshes look similar from the front at a distance...but up close the shape is completely different. &nbsp;Same with the mx-6 and s14.

[rubbersidedown]

i actually had someone mistaken my car for a porsche once. i had almost forgotten. it was kinda funny actually. he only saw it from a distance but i didn't bother correcting him &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[Russki]

I had a 2nd gen Probe GT until i crashed it. &nbsp;Let me tell you, for a car that size, it is VERY VERY safe. &nbsp;I hit a tow truck head on traveling at 40mph and he was going about the same. &nbsp;I broke my leg, otherwise i was very lucky.

Anyways, I miss my probe so please quit saying it's ugly <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> &nbsp; I think both the 2nd gen Probe and my S13 look great, wouldn't trade them for anything else.

[palpatine1st]

please dont compare the biggest POS on the market the ford to the 240 my god have you no decency. &nbsp;
i had a probe for about 326 miles before it died after that i told ford to blo me forever! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[SimpleS14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KiDyNomiTe @ Mar. 17 2002,8:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sum1 wanna answer my question of who would win (240SX S13 maunal vs. MX-6 auto V6)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think the 240SX will win. &nbsp;I actually raced a MX-6 with my S-14 ('95 auto) and beat him &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> not once but twice &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> the second time was so sweet. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

I like abusing these smilies &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'>

[hurleyboi514]

ive got a friend w/ an 88 MX6 gt. &nbsp;its friggin fast!! &nbsp;ran a 14.3 1/4 mile!! &nbsp;hes put very little into it. &nbsp;its got a stage II CF clutch, aluminum flywheel, intake, turbo back exaust, and alot of weight saving mods. &nbsp;like no interior!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;i think its ugly as hell, but i would never race it... &nbsp;i think hes running 10 psi on the street, and 14 at the track. &nbsp;it all depends on the octane he can get.

[wa-fu]

I used to have a Pinto and some guy thought it was a Porsch (I was delivering him a pizza!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
And my last car was a 96 Probe GT. &nbsp;Those cars are basically Mazdas. &nbsp;I liked it except that it was FWD and not a 240. &nbsp;Only way to mistake one for the other is if you never pay attention to either.

[adey]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ Mar. 18 2002,4:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><snip>
besides the 66! i don't see how someone could think a WRX looks badass but not a cobra</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ummm... for one, the Cobra (and all mustangs) have BLACK PLASTIC INSERTS for a HMIC that DOESN'T EXIST. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'> Sure, the mustangs are mean looking, but you can't compare them to WRXs. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> 'Stangs may look mean, but they don't got much bite. (flame suit: on)

[DrDubbleB]

They don't have the black plastic inserts for the hood scoop anymore, and it was never meant to look like a HMIC (Hood Mounted Inter Cooler??? now that's ineffiency, it would never work, not enough room...I don't think they exist.), just a hood scoop, which is now functional. I think James was talking about the 1966 Shelby GT350 though.
Also, I don't think they do look all that good (the new ones), and the only "mean" looking American car left, is the Dodge Viper.

[misnomer]

Hey, did anybody notice how similar an s13 looks to a Ford Probe? Stop kidding yourselves guys, they are very similar looking automobiles. Similar stance, popup lights, two door, hatch setup. They're both pretty good looking cars, just some of the little things make you prefer one of the other.

Beauty is all in the eyes of the beholder.

[DuffMan]

I think s13 fastbacks dont take pictures well. They look better in person than they do in pictures.


Like me!

[matic 240sx]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'> well... &nbsp;saying a prode looks like a 240? &nbsp;well... yes they do share some of the same things but... &nbsp;they look totally different... &nbsp;i have an s14 but i dont see myself ever mistaking a probe for a 240 anyday... from any angle.. and ford (sorry all) is a joke... fords are CRAP...

yeah i used to have an 87 toyota mr2, and everyone thought it was front wheel drive, and they were totally amazed that the motor was in the rear, i thought it was funny, but then again in my town people are pretty much hicks (rednecks) that drive big trucks or trans ams, anyways i thought it was funny, man i miss my mr2 it was a fun little car...

[oberkill]

Some of you guys are just as bad as the domestic morons we all deal with everyday. When I say domestic morons I am talking about the idiots that if it isnt a (ford, chevy, dodge, etc) it cant be fast. I have a SR powered 240 but I also have a 98 Cobra Mustang and have had several in a long line of Mustangs. I think a 240 with the 91 and up front end looks alot like a Probe front end and I can see someone who doesnt know any better confusing them. We are not all "car people" most people just drive thier cars and the younger crowd just doesnt know. If someone mistakes your car for a car you dont like WHO F'N CARES!!! As far as the WRX giving a Cobra a run thats actually kind of funny! My Cobra still kills my 240 and it is stock, the 240 is catching up fast and will be faster by spring but for now it is the slower daily driver. Back to the haters that claim "insert and domestic here" is crap and breaks down all the time is just another import idiot in my book not a car enthusiast. I work on my car/cars because I like cars I dont care who made it. If it is fast, has potential to be fast, or just looks good I like it. My 240 is my first "import" car that I have built (at least stateside) and the only thing I dont like about it is alot of the import crowd are just plain childish and immature. There is a whole big world out there not just your world. This is not directed at anyone on this board directly more to the attitude in the Import world as a whole, I get just as pissed on the Mustang forums I go to.
[Rant mode off!!]

Alan

[Zemus]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rubbersidedown @ Mar. 17 2002,6:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That's it, i can't take it anymore. I was talking to some kid today and i was tellin him about the 240 because he was all interested in buying a sports car. He was lookin through his compact sports car magazine or whatever and he said he really didn't like how the 240 looked. I had a look for myself and it only showed the s14. Personally i'm a big fan of the s13 so i told him to search for one online or something. I talk to him the next day and he's like "yeah, i saw one finally. Its cool lookin but it looks like a ford probe". I flipped! I've heard people make that reference before but i haven't heard that in a long long time. I feel there is a very slight resemblance between the two but i have never and will never mistake a s13 240sx for a probe or vice vs. Maybe its just me, but i think that every probe ever made is the ugliest hunk of metal i've ever seen in my life. Is anyone else upset about the whole "s13 looks like a probe" thing or is that just me as well? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I KNOW MAN, my friend said when i got my car he is like "POS prode trash" i almost hit it, jez man, when will they learn, come on they look totaly diff, dont worry some day thet will pay

[bing]

at nigth in my mirrors i always mistake probes (both models) mx-6 (both) some prorches and all kinds of other things...

mostly, in my rear view i always mistakes new beetles for boxsters.

[matic 240sx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (oberkill @ Mar. 18 2002,09:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Some of you guys are just as bad as the domestic morons we all deal with everyday. When I say domestic morons I am talking about the idiots that if it isnt a (ford, chevy, dodge, etc) it cant be fast. I have a SR powered 240 but I also have a 98 Cobra Mustang and have had several in a long line of Mustangs. I think a 240 with the 91 and up front end looks alot like a Probe front end and I can see someone who doesnt know any better confusing them. We are not all "car people" most people just drive thier cars and the younger crowd just doesnt know. If someone mistakes your car for a car you dont like WHO F'N CARES!!! As far as the WRX giving a Cobra a run thats actually kind of funny! My Cobra still kills my 240 and it is stock, the 240 is catching up fast and will be faster by spring but for now it is the slower daily driver. Back to the haters that claim "insert and domestic here" is crap and breaks down all the time is just another import idiot in my book not a car enthusiast. I work on my car/cars because I like cars I dont care who made it. If it is fast, has potential to be fast, or just looks good I like it. My 240 is my first "import" car that I have built (at least stateside) and the only thing I dont like about it is alot of the import crowd are just plain childish and immature. There is a whole big world out there not just your world. This is not directed at anyone on this board directly more to the attitude in the Import world as a whole, I get just as pissed on the Mustang forums I go to.
[Rant mode off!!]

Alan</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yea sure a cobra is fast and can beat many cars... &nbsp;but just because you haven't had some major problems doesn't mean you won't. &nbsp;I've worked on many cars... friends.. customers... and two friends of mine with mustang gts get pissed ( one a 95, one a 00 ) and they try anytihng to get consistant times out of them, but they can't... &nbsp;another guy i know can't keep his cobra running... &nbsp;it has massive mods done to it. &nbsp;yet... my friend with a 10 second eclipse has problems maybe every 6, 7 months... not bad on a 10 second car... My own mother had to learn her lesson with fords... she owned 2 contours, (liked they way they looked for some odd reason) one was a 96 i believe and the other was a 98... no mods... no racing nothing.. i went by the book on both and we had so many damn problems with them.... &nbsp;im not saying this becuase you think im some honda rice imports own fag.. i am telling you what i know from experience.. &nbsp;I never had problems with my civic, altima, or 240sx... &nbsp;i didn't say anything about chevys.. dodge or anything else.. i just think ford is crap and will always think it is. &nbsp;My friend has 3 dodge vehicles... all very slow but nice great running cars... &nbsp;his neon is heavily modded. &nbsp;and no a cobra should be able to kill a WRX.. but a mustang GT should kill my brothers maxima... &nbsp;and just so you know.. my friends are NOT bad drivers and dumbasses... &nbsp;one is a great driver (00 gt) and he wishes he kept his accord. &nbsp;I could go on all day but im not...

[oberkill]

We can all only go off personal experiances. I have had 5 differant Mustangs over the years and have yet to have one single problem with one. Either modified or not. Now my lovely 240 (prior to the engine swap) has left me stranded 3 damn times. LOL I also have a POS Escort (wife car) that is driven like crap (again wife car) and that has never given me one problem, as a matter of fact I bought it new in 95 and the rear tires are still original! (need to be replaced soon though) I owned a Skyline in Japan and never really had any issues with it besides problems from the engine swap that dont count. I had a BMW and a Jag when I lived in the United Kingdom and both were big POS! LOL Never did get either one to pass inspection. I dont know what to say to people who do have issues as I dont drive or take care of their cars. I really dont think it matters cars will have problems. Take a look through the tech section at all the question regarding some problem or another with a 240, I had a 69 mustang completely stock that didnt have half the problems. I could also go on all day but I wont. The point I was making is not that one type of car is better but the attitude that any car is better just because of make/where it was made is dumb. Also I will open a challenge to any WRX against my Cobra anytime. A friend of mine here has a silver one and a Mustang he call the Mustang Red and Fast and the WRX Silver and Slow. I do like the WRX though, hopefully they bring a model over that is closer to the Japanese HP levels.

Alan