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vector601
12-29-2004, 11:54 PM
What do you guys think? Are they good?

ucfz31s13
12-29-2004, 11:56 PM
a) Who needs 36-way adjustable dampening?

b) Lots of options for the money, but I'd save the extra $300 and get HE's.

OptionZero
12-30-2004, 12:15 AM
Megan Racing.

Johny5
12-30-2004, 12:40 AM
lol, megan racing, tein he's?!!? shit, just go kts. you cannot find a better coilover rebuild than kts, front inverted dampening, subtle yet effective 8/6 rates.

neilio85
12-30-2004, 01:07 AM
I am also intersted in this. I was leaning towards the D2's for awhile, but now I most likely will go for the KTS. Any opinions on which would be the better buy?

OptionZero
12-30-2004, 01:10 AM
KTS and Megan Racing are both quality, from reviews on this board. KTS is better quality (inverted strut?), but about $300 more, depending on price at the time. Megan Racing is cheaper, but probably the best value of all the budget coilovers...probably the best entry level coilover.

Megan Racing is red.
KTS is blue.

I like red.

Johny5
12-30-2004, 01:45 AM
but all my kazama stuff is red :)

drift into a curb
12-30-2004, 02:00 AM
Apex n1 pro all the way. and it's red to match the kazama haha.

biggie
12-30-2004, 07:52 AM
Eh, I've had no complaints about the D2s so far (9/7 springs). For the price its hard to beat.

SimpleS14
12-30-2004, 12:37 PM
Where would you get the D2 coilovers? I heard the sole importer went bankrupt. Anywho....the only compliant I've witness is this ANNOYING sound the coilovers make during cold weather. The first thought was "needs to be tighten down"...but even then the sounds comes back....and only during cold weather...summer time everything is fine.


But yea....I suggest KTS coilovers...I have them and really like them.

biggie
12-30-2004, 12:57 PM
I am pretty sure http://urbanimport.com is getting the D2s still. A lot of stuff isn't listed on the site, just call them. They are here in NC (where I bought mine). The S14 version last I saw was not the best (the rear set isn't long enough, so they don't have good enough adjustment). Don't know if they have changed that yet or not. Nothing wrong with the S13 version that I know of.

meme
12-30-2004, 01:08 PM
i would have went with the KTS becuase of the rebuild,but got the Megan racing for real cheap. could have been cheaper if i waited but needed to get the car rolling.

Zemus
12-30-2004, 03:13 PM
Happy with the D2s, kinda noises, drove em on basicly 30 the whole time in the rear, and like 20 ish in the front, and still kicken, i saved them, and am putting them on to the M30

MugenHonda
12-30-2004, 03:22 PM
Happy with the D2s, kinda noises, drove em on basicly 30 the whole time in the rear, and like 20 ish in the front, and still kicken, i saved them, and am putting them on to the M30

The Infiniti M30? It shares it's front and rear suspension with the S13s?

OptionZero
12-30-2004, 04:18 PM
screw it

Get Kazama coilovers =P

JDMark
12-30-2004, 04:26 PM
Where would you get the D2 coilovers? I heard the sole importer went bankrupt. Anywho....the only compliant I've witness is this ANNOYING sound the coilovers make during cold weather. The first thought was "needs to be tighten down"...but even then the sounds comes back....and only during cold weather...summer time everything is fine.


But yea....I suggest KTS coilovers...I have them and really like them.

naw that was Trix motorsport the distributor for Ksport. so i geuss D2s are still available, just no ksports.

Zemus
12-30-2004, 04:39 PM
The Infiniti M30? It shares it's front and rear suspension with the S13s?

Rear bolts up when you drill a new hole for the bolt in the rear strut tower, and the front just uses s13 arms and crap. Should be sick, also took my Tomei Trax and my seat for the M30

mr_240sx
12-30-2004, 06:28 PM
i think that it would be sweet to see some picks of your coil-overs on your m30

publicenemy137
12-30-2004, 10:14 PM
Where would you get the D2 coilovers? I heard the sole importer went bankrupt. Anywho....the only compliant I've witness is this ANNOYING sound the coilovers make during cold weather. The first thought was "needs to be tighten down"...but even then the sounds comes back....and only during cold weather...summer time everything is fine.


But yea....I suggest KTS coilovers...I have them and really like them.

trix racing went bankrupt, they were the one that produced K-sport coilovers. K-sport is the american brand for D2s, but different distributors/manufacturers. I've been in world sport, KTS's, and I have D2s. I recommend KTS's, they are nice.

My D2s make loud ass noises in the winter, it's annoying as shit. I'd pick the KTS over em, it's also smoother. Also george, I softened the dampening on my D2s since then, it's a lot softer now and doesn't rock at every lil unsmooth edge

Toahk
12-30-2004, 11:24 PM
Make sure you keep your pillowball mounts greased up on the d2's or they will bind and make the spring move instead of the mount and make it clunk.

publicenemy137
12-31-2004, 07:12 PM
interesting, thanks toahk. Now how do I go about grasing my pillowball mounts? Also was it bad for my coilies for me not to grease em? Also my rears make noise as well, and on the D2s the rears didn't come with pillowball mounts

Got Sileighty?
01-03-2005, 03:45 AM
^^^bump....i have that binding noise problem too. so how do u grease up the mounts? and does it require a specific type of grease?

Zemus
01-03-2005, 06:18 AM
i think that it would be sweet to see some picks of your coil-overs on your m30

Have yet to do it, still trying to find the right M30, but once i get it and put my coillovers, LSD and seat and oviously 5spd in it, ill post about it

vector601
01-03-2005, 02:23 PM
hey guys thanks for the feedback. If i were to get D2's what spring rates do you recommend? 9/7 or 7/5?

Uniac
01-03-2005, 04:39 PM
i was very happy with my d2's at 7/5 i was driving a good 600Km trip 2x a week and the car felt great. My back on the otherhand is a differnt story.

To all those complaining about the d2's in the cold...THEY ARE RATED TO 5+Celcious, not below...i know a few guys who have blown them out running them in the negitive temps that we're hitting..they make a shitload of noise and blew....

publicenemy137
01-03-2005, 06:07 PM
vector if you are set on D2s, 7/5 springrate is what's recommended. So how do you grease up camber plates? I want to get rid of this damn noise. And Uniac, mine has noise when driving at 40-60 F. But I won't drive it below 25 degrees anymore

sr240mike
01-03-2005, 06:13 PM
I recommend 8/6, right in the middle of those two. You grease up the pillow ball. Im getting the same noises in cold weather.

nlzmo400r
01-04-2005, 12:59 PM
yes but with what kind of grease? just regular grease gun type grease? Thats pretty thick shit

Got Sileighty?
01-05-2005, 12:39 AM
i guess no one wants to answer, or no one knows the answer to the $64,000 question. how do you grease up the pillowball? and with what grease?

drift into a curb
01-05-2005, 02:25 AM
Axle grease? All purpose synthetic grease? Wheel bearing grease? Which is it?!?>?!

brianglawson
01-05-2005, 04:53 AM
mookeh mk1:)

MugenHonda
01-05-2005, 07:51 AM
Use grease designed for suspensions, etc etc. Mobil 1 makes some very nice synthetic stuff.

nokuntrol
01-07-2005, 01:54 PM
i get this damn noise in the front and in the back.
I grease the pillows in the front, but what about the bacK?

publicenemy137
01-07-2005, 02:34 PM
exactly, I have no pillowball mounts in the rears, but it still makes loud ass noises!! Also is it just me or does it seem the D2 coilovers sound much louder in the cold, and quieter when it's warmer?

TurDz
01-07-2005, 02:34 PM
i was very happy with my d2's at 7/5 i was driving a good 600Km trip 2x a week and the car felt great. My back on the otherhand is a differnt story.

To all those complaining about the d2's in the cold...THEY ARE RATED TO 5+Celcious, not below...i know a few guys who have blown them out running them in the negitive temps that we're hitting..they make a shitload of noise and blew....

that is amazing...why so high of a temp? do other coilovers rate to a similar temperature too? that's around 41 deg F.

Mikes14240sx
01-07-2005, 04:57 PM
Well I guess that explains some things. My left rear started making loud clunking sounds on my way home from a friend's house late at night, was probably in the high 30's that night. It's been clunking on the cool mornings ever since and hardly at all when its close to 80 in the afternoon.

They were fun while they lasted. :hammer:

nokuntrol
01-09-2005, 02:56 PM
and if it matters...

The rubber rings that separate the string and the perch are worn and torn. they are pretty much gone. =/

publicenemy137
01-10-2005, 08:04 AM
So does anyone here who have D2s don't have this clunking noise problem?

Toahk
01-10-2005, 09:59 AM
Mine dont clunk. Ive had them on since Mid may 2004. Maybe you guys should pull them off and see if anything is binding up? Or you can just leave them on and continue to destroy them if something is going wrong and complain about it online.

sr240mike
01-10-2005, 11:47 AM
You're about the only one who hasnt had clunking, you're lucky.

publicenemy137
01-10-2005, 01:09 PM
Mine dont clunk. Ive had them on since Mid may 2004. Maybe you guys should pull them off and see if anything is binding up? Or you can just leave them on and continue to destroy them if something is going wrong and complain about it online.

are you driving in cold weather? Like sub-40s, also did you do anything like lubricating the camber plates?

Juujai
01-10-2005, 07:18 PM
damn it with the cheap stuff Ohlins or aragosta!!! zeal drift is good too

publicenemy137
01-11-2005, 08:38 AM
Toahk where do you live at? how cold is the weather?

nlzmo400r
01-11-2005, 09:14 AM
i dont have a clunking, right now im running cusco camber plates up front, thats where i get my little noise from. Because the sleeve doesnt fit perfeclty from the cusco's pillow ball mounts to the d2 coilovers, i have d2 upbm coming in thursday, ill reply if it makes a difference.

publicenemy137
01-11-2005, 09:54 AM
hey nismo400r what is the weather like there? Reason why I'm asking this is b/c mine and most others only make noise when it's colder out

CoasTek240
01-11-2005, 10:20 AM
I dont have a clunking noise in my coilovers. I've had mine on since about June of 2004. They are Cusco Comp zero. i get a lil squeaking from my front, but its bc i need to grease my pillowball.
i recommend pulling off your coilovers from time to time, about as often as changing oil., and cleaning and moving all the moveable parts. ive done it one time since ive owened them. i need to do it more.

kaje36
01-11-2005, 11:54 AM
I got the noise in just my rears.. had them since july 04, but I know what the noise is !!

it seems to be the shaft of the shock binding with the shock itself makeing the poping sound. its basicly like the shact is sticking. I am guessing that the oil they use doesnt like the cold weather much. but mine started a little ealier then 40 degrees, so who knows. I still got warrenty and I am in talkes with D2,.. I just dont have suspention right now to be able to send them my rears and keep driving. something I am gonna try once I get a day that the parkinglot isnt ice or a puddle is I am gonna soak the shaft in mineral oil ( or 3 in 1 oil ). I was talking to some airplane hydrolic macanics and thats what they use to clean there "shocks" he was also saying to let is soak couse the metal will absorb the mineral oil since its so thin

nlzmo400r
01-11-2005, 12:07 PM
hey nismo400r what is the weather like there? Reason why I'm asking this is b/c mine and most others only make noise when it's colder out

i live in new orleans, so its hot and humid for the most part. Ive only had mine for a few months now, although it got as cold as maybe 35-45 degrees for about a week, and i didnt notice an increase in noise even then.

publicenemy137
01-11-2005, 02:50 PM
hmmmm... interesting. This noise is really getting to me... They also said that the coldest you can drive it is upper 30s? Any lower you can blow the shocks? If this is true, this seriously blows...

SimpleS14
01-11-2005, 02:56 PM
dayum......I hope that is not true Andrew...can't drive around until March. lol (j/k)


This is off topic...but someone mentioned suspension grease. Would or can this be used on aftermarket T/C rod joints? (i.e. SPL)

s13driver
01-11-2005, 11:35 PM
i was very happy with my d2's at 7/5 i was driving a good 600Km trip 2x a week and the car felt great. My back on the otherhand is a differnt story.

To all those complaining about the d2's in the cold...THEY ARE RATED TO 5+Celcious, not below...i know a few guys who have blown them out running them in the negitive temps that we're hitting..they make a shitload of noise and blew....

i wonder where you get the 5+ celcious rating, because on the box of my d2 coil it saids -5 to 60 C. if it's rating is -5 C then we can use it above 23F.

DTS
01-12-2005, 11:04 AM
i drove mine for a month in the cold -8 mornings and mine have never clunked before, the only time they make noise is when they are cold and they squeak for the first 5 min

its like
squeak squeak squeak as they go over bumps

nokuntrol
01-12-2005, 02:22 PM
I greased the pillow balls as best i could. You can only do so much without taking the whole coilover out.
The noise was reduced a bit, but i still get the occasional clunk. I still get more "squeak squeak" then "clunk clunk" when going over bumps and driveways. :ugh:

Did you guys get warenty papers when you bought your D2's. I'll have to check for mine. Anyone have the number for D2 USA?

publicenemy137
01-12-2005, 04:23 PM
lol that sucks. I HATE THIS FUCKING NOISE! DTS you are one lucky bastard

nlzmo400r
01-12-2005, 05:27 PM
^^^^ im guessing yours is worse than normal, mine doesnt really bother me. And its pretty much nonrelavant of the d2s, its cause my cusco' pbm dont fit right.

DTS
01-12-2005, 06:09 PM
well this one time i was driving into the sun at around 55 kph in a parking lotand couldnt see that there was a speed bump, it wasnt one of the small ones it was one of the big monster kill your car ones that are like 3 feet long and 7" high :doh:

well i hit it at 55kph and got some air over it maybe that fixed them :x:

UrbanImport
01-14-2005, 12:26 AM
UPDATE

This thread has come our attention and I wanted to address some of the concerns. At one point D2 switched manufacturers for some of the oils in the shock and so far all the shocks which have had excessive noise coming from them have been traced back to this manufacturing run. D2 has since switched back to the original supplier and all coilovers sold recently and any sold from now on should not experience this problem. Again I want to stress that this issue is not a problem with every D2 coilover sold, only some. It may not even affect all 4 coilovers, depending on the dampening it could just be your rear struts or just your front struts that are affected.

We have extra replacement struts on the way from D2. If you feel your coilovers might be affected by this you will (upon confirmation of defect) be eligible for replacements free of charge. We will also extend this offer through next winter to be sure that if your shocks are from the questionable batch you will be eligible for a replacement then even if they don't start acting up until that time. I would like to reiterate that this does not affect all shocks only a relatively small # of the overall coilovers in the US. If you feel that you are affected by this please call us AFTER FEB 1ST (we should have replacements by then) @ 919-383-5000.

-Michael
D2 Racing North America

nokuntrol
01-14-2005, 04:10 PM
Oh Snap!!

there should be a separate thread and sticky about this. I bought my coilovers on the 3rd GB on the Nico forums.

s13driver
01-14-2005, 05:48 PM
^^^^

same here. should keep this sticky..
now i need to find some cheapo shocks n springs while i have to send my coilover back to them hmmm....

nlzmo400r
01-14-2005, 05:57 PM
i just switched to d2 camber plates from cusco, and all my noises are gone, not a sound from em.

publicenemy137
01-16-2005, 12:15 AM
awesome urbanimports. I have a question though, does that mean we will have to ship you our coilovers first to have you guys confirm the noise? If this is true, I cannot afford to have downtime for my car for that long...

publicenemy137
01-21-2005, 01:51 PM
BuMp urbanimport u still there?

nokuntrol
02-01-2005, 12:26 PM
This was posted in one of the threads by the North America D2 Reps.
I called them today and spoke to Michael directly. Micheal was a nice guy but told me that if I bought my coilovers through a groupbuy (like the NICO forums), that I would have to deal directly with the Groubbuy organizer (Mark).

Does anyone have the contact information for Mark from the NICO Forums?


LINK to Origenal thread - Pg2 for Info (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=69630&page=1&pp=30)



UPDATE

This thread has come our attention and I wanted to address some of the concerns. At one point D2 switched manufacturers for some of the oils in the shock and so far all the shocks which have had excessive noise coming from them have been traced back to this manufacturing run. D2 has since switched back to the original supplier and all coilovers sold recently and any sold from now on should not experience this problem. Again I want to stress that this issue is not a problem with every D2 coilover sold, only some. It may not even affect all 4 coilovers, depending on the dampening it could just be your rear struts or just your front struts that are affected.

We have extra replacement struts on the way from D2. If you feel your coilovers might be affected by this you will (upon confirmation of defect) be eligible for replacements free of charge. We will also extend this offer through next winter to be sure that if your shocks are from the questionable batch you will be eligible for a replacement then even if they don't start acting up until that time. I would like to reiterate that this does not affect all shocks only a relatively small # of the overall coilovers in the US. If you feel that you are affected by this please call us AFTER FEB 1ST (we should have replacements by then) @ 919-383-5000.

-Michael
D2 Racing North America

markbuts3
02-04-2005, 09:28 PM
This was posted in one of the threads by the North America D2 Reps.
I called them today and spoke to Michael directly. Micheal was a nice guy but told me that if I bought my coilovers through a groupbuy (like the NICO forums), that I would have to deal directly with the Groubbuy organizer (Mark).

Does anyone have the contact information for Mark from the NICO Forums?


LINK to Origenal thread - Pg2 for Info (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=69630&page=1&pp=30)


Well that's a laugh...

I got mine through Marcus' 2nd GB on there too, and had them shipped to the UK. Mark is no longer a D2 dealer and can't do anything. He forwarded my problem on to D2 in Taiwan and I also emailed them, they replied after my second email and told me to contact Mike at UrbanImport...

I have already sent an email to Mike and he hasn't replied yet...

Check this (http://www.240sx.us/viewtopic.php?t=3&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=135&sid=b446409415b202af13c865d1a8b8b9ab) thread out for Marcus' contact details...

I'm just about to reply to D2 directly....looks like I funked... :smash:

Blues13
02-04-2005, 10:07 PM
Yeah, I got them through Mark as well.. I don't understand why there is a problem for us to return them to any D2 dealer rather than having us return them to the same one we purchased them from. They should be backed by D2 and not the dealer.

HaLo
02-04-2005, 10:33 PM
haha... we got screwed.. woot!

boost infested
02-04-2005, 11:20 PM
i had mine for less than 5000km, the front ones are noisy when they are compressed or when i turn.

If D2 is willing to back up their warranty they should take them back no matter what as long as they are D2 coils.

s13driver
02-05-2005, 06:28 PM
so what are the choices for us that got the D2 coilover from Mark ?

98sr20ve
02-05-2005, 07:56 PM
I don't understand why there is a problem for us to return them to any D2 dealer rather than having us return them to the same one we purchased them from. They should be backed by D2 and not the dealer.

It's called bad service thats all. I guess D2 does suck. They had a chance to look good. All they needed to do was do one thing more then they did. They found the problem, even offered to fix it thru some channels but are for some reason choosing to :mepoke: some of the people who dealt with some dealers. The dealers did not make the shocks. They only sold them. D2 choose to allow them to become dealers (if they are/were authorized dealers). It's not like you guys bought them off the back of a truck. You have a reciept. You should get warranty work even if the dealer went out of business or has a bad relationship with D2. D2 is ruining what little of a reputation they had.

publicenemy137
02-05-2005, 07:59 PM
I got mine through Mark as well. Looks like we ppl who surfed NICO got fucked

kaje36
02-06-2005, 06:02 PM
I got mine threw mark, and D2 was perfectly happy to take them back. I havent sent them yet becouse I dont have replacement rear shocks, but I might try to bug urban just so I dont have to ship to tiwan

nokuntrol
02-06-2005, 06:28 PM
The only thing we can really do is complain.
If we complain enough, they will take them back.
I'll be calling D2 again tomorrow. Anyone else with me???

UrbanImport
02-06-2005, 11:03 PM
I think there is some confusion as to who is what.

Originally D2 products were imported directly from D2 Asia by both ADV Auto Parts (Marcus) and my company (Urban Import). During this time we were not the ones selling the coilovers in the GB nor were we profiting from them (if anything they were hurting the market for our sales).

ADV Auto parts is no longer an importer of D2 Racing Products, we (Urban Import) are now the exclusive North American Distributor. If the coilovers were purchased through us or one of our dealers we would be happy to cover the warranty.

Covering warranty work is not a cheap venture. We have to order the parts, have them shipped from Asia to us if they aren't in stock, then shipped to the customer and then once the customer ships the part back to us we have to send it back to Asia. Not to mention during this time we have to keep up with the shocks which cost us $100 each (which we get back if we return them to Asia).

We understand the frustration people are having with this situation. If you purchased the coilovers through us or one of our dealers the warranty will be NO CHARGE. If you purchased the coilovers through ADV Auto Parts or one of their dealers there will be a $50 charge (within the 48 States). This charge will help us cover the things I listed above.

For any warranty claims there may be a deposit required which will be refunded when we receive your defective part. To avoid having to put down a deposit you can send is the defective part in advance.

michael1284
02-06-2005, 11:07 PM
me. lets do it.

s13driver
02-06-2005, 11:17 PM
I think there is some confusion as to who is what.

Originally D2 products were imported directly from D2 Asia by both ADV Auto Parts (Marcus) and my company (Urban Import). During this time we were not the ones selling the coilovers in the GB nor were we profiting from them (if anything they were hurting the market for our sales).

ADV Auto parts is no longer an importer of D2 Racing Products, we (Urban Import) are now the exclusive North American Distributor. If the coilovers were purchased through us or one of our dealers we would be happy to cover the warranty.

Covering warranty work is not a cheap venture. We have to order the parts, have them shipped from Asia to us if they aren't in stock, then shipped to the customer and then once the customer ships the part back to us we have to send it back to Asia. Not to mention during this time we have to keep up with the shocks which cost us $100 each (which we get back if we return them to Asia).

We understand the frustration people are having with this situation. If you purchased the coilovers through us or one of our dealers the warranty will be NO CHARGE. If you purchased the coilovers through ADV Auto Parts or one of their dealers there will be a $50 charge (within the 48 States). This charge will help us cover the things I listed above.

For any warranty claims there may be a deposit required which will be refunded when we receive your defective part. To avoid having to put down a deposit you can send is the defective part in advance.

ok that doesn't sound too bad, so is this the liste of things for the buyers from ADVAUTO to do inorder to get the warrenty directly from you ?
1. send a $50 + deposit
2. send defective coilover
3. waiting for non-defective coilover to come back ?

please correct me if there is any mistake.

Blues13
02-06-2005, 11:28 PM
UrbanImports, I think we all appreciate your response in this matter.

Could you please post exactly what needs to be done step by step (what needs to be included, shipping instructions, shipping location, turnaround time etc.. ) if we ordered though Mark/AdvAuto? That way we can avoid any mistakes/misunderstandings and frustrated customers.

Thanks!!

UrbanImport
02-06-2005, 11:29 PM
The defective strut along with a money order for $50, your complete name, address, phone # and email address needs to be sent payable to:

D2 Racing Sports
4511 Hillsborough Rd #303
Durham, NC 27705

We will have the replacements in stock by the 20th of the month. Assuming that our supply of replacements is not run dry the replacement parts will be shipped with 24 hrs.

If you choose to do and advance warranty claim (we send you the replacements then you send us the defective part) there will be a $75 deposit per strut. Payment for advance warranty can be mailed to the address above or you can call us at 919-383-5000 if you choose to pay with credit card or PayPal.

Please note that just because one strut is making noise it does not mean that all 4 struts are from a defective batch.

publicenemy137
02-06-2005, 11:33 PM
understood. Urbanimport you also told me that we needed a receipt of some kind also? Well I dont' have one b/c I gave Mark my credit card # and did not pay through paypal. He did not send me any receipt, just the box which has already been tossed. Shouldn't we still get a refund anyways with noisy coilovers? I can also give the tag that says a warranty from D2s, is that good enough?

Also how fast will the turnaround be? Are you sure that Mark cannot give us any warranties even though he's not a dealer anymore? I talked to Mark and he told me he can get us the replacement coilovers at no charge. He said as of right now he has no received the procedures yet and will let me know as soon as possible. I am very skeptical of Mark though, and these coilovers are extremely annoying to daily drive.

And one more question, can we just paypal you the money? Have a paypal address?

UrbanImport
02-06-2005, 11:40 PM
For the next 60 days no reciept will be needed for coilovers purchased from Mark since all coilovers brought into the US will still be under the 1 year warranty. There should have been replacement parts sent to ADV from when they started selling D2 products but I cannot make any gurantees as to what they have or their warranty procedure.

PayPal payments can be sent to [email protected]

publicenemy137
02-07-2005, 11:16 AM
alright, I guess if Mark doesn't give me the replacements in 20 days, I will paypal you $350 since all 4 of my coilovers are extremely noisy :down: :wtc: , hurt on my bank account but when I finally receive those replacement NON-noisy coilovers I will be one happy man :wiggle:

nokuntrol
02-07-2005, 12:11 PM
alright, I guess if Mark doesn't give me the replacements in 20 days, I will paypal you $350 since all 4 of my coilovers are extremely noisy :down: :wtc: , hurt on my bank account but when I finally receive those replacement NON-noisy coilovers I will be one happy man :wiggle:


But from my understanding you will receive $300 back once you mail in the defective set.

Ian
02-07-2005, 12:15 PM
why is it that the warranty is costing the buyer money? i have nothing to do with this because i stayed away from these coilovers, but i dont understand how that works?


you got sold bunk products and have to pay to get them replaced even though there is a warranty?

UrbanImport
02-07-2005, 01:27 PM
That is correct, you will get your deposit back.



why is it that the warranty is costing the buyer money? i have nothing to do with this because i stayed away from these coilovers, but i dont understand how that works?


you got sold bunk products and have to pay to get them replaced even though there is a warranty?

I think it is explained above fairly clearly. I am stepping in and cleaning up somebody elses mess in order to keep a good name, I'm not making money off warranty work.

publicenemy137
02-07-2005, 09:54 PM
Mike I will be calling you tomorrow. I really need these, everytime I drive on the street it sounds like an orgy in my car no joke. All you hear is "pop, pop, creak, creak, squish squish!"

michael1284
02-08-2005, 09:02 AM
i understand your point of covering your costs....but i really do think that D2 should step in and help you cover ALL the costs...IMO that's what I would do if I were a company and messed up.

In my mind, if they would of done everything for no charge (it shouldn't matter who we bought from) I would really reconsider buying them again. But having me pay $50 + shipping to NC on some heavy ass coilovers...your looking at almost $100. This would be after having to live with defective coilovers for almost 1 yr now. You guys think if we complained enough directly to D2 they would be able to reimburse us?? As a college student I cannot have my car down for a few weeks thus I would have to pay $75 per strut and $50 on top of that w/ shipping. 350 + shipping for a few weeks for a poor college student = I guess I'm not going to be eating for a while til I get my deposit back....

michael1284
02-08-2005, 09:03 AM
Maybe we could get some petition and everyone sign and send to D2 :(

Go poor college students of America!!

98sr20ve
02-08-2005, 09:17 AM
But having me pay $50 + shipping to NC on some heavy ass coilovers...your looking at almost $100.

Ship FedEX. It's not nearly that much. Take the springs and all that stuff off and it's not so big. I ship struts all the time thru fedex. Ussually about 12 bucks. Depending on distance. Just shipped a huge swaybar for 8 bucks.

UrbanImport
02-08-2005, 11:00 AM
I understand your concerns but unfortunately this is one of the risks you take on when buying a product on a GB where the distributor hasn't established themselves yet. This is the same as if you were to buy an S-AFC from somebody besides apexi USA, they will not honor your warranty.
In the long run you still got a steal of a deal on the coilovers even after having to pay for some warranty issues.

bing
02-08-2005, 11:10 AM
hey guys,

i spoke at length with michael from Urban yesterday.

it seems like aside from the initial hassle of the deposit and waiting for shipping that the warranties will be satisfied justly.

to make a point, i think this process is about as much as you can ask for a warranty from an international company like D2. so in that sense it is perfectly reasonable.

if there are canadian guys who bought from marcus contact me and i will try and help you out with your claim, even though i am not a part of ADV.

for US guys it is going to be easier to go through Urban for sure.

publicenemy137
02-08-2005, 11:52 AM
alright just talked to D2 racing, they're out of rear s14 struts :mad: . They said it'll take 2 weeks to deliver. Anyways urbanimport can you let us know when they are in stock? I'd put in my info and credit card but I've had a bad experience with D2 already. I had to wait 2 months for my coilovers then pay on top another $100 for express shipping b/c Mark had shipping delays. So I paid $820 to have noisy ass coilovers expressed shipped, that took 2 months to arrive, and sound like they are falling apart. Now I have to pay another $50 + $300 deposit to get the replacements. :rant2: I keep thinking to myself that if I waited for another month, I could've had SPL KTS quality coilovers and no problems. Oh well I couldn't foresee this. I just hope to get the replacements and end everything soon enough.