Why Fast Cars!!??

[Twinkie]

So i was wondering, what is the reason for you guys to own a cool fast car? even with speed limitation, and all of you who are so opposed to street racing, and for the guys who own a fast car without taking them to the track (for personal preference), why the fast cars? whats the reason for a 250-400hp street car?


just a random thought...

[aznpoopy]

last i checked the 240sx wasn't a particularly cool or fast car. :P

some ppl build up a car for track. fine.
some ppl build up a car for street racing. gay, but true.
some ppl simply like to build up a car b/c they like building up cars.
some ppl modify a car for attention.

you might as well ask why ppl buy SUVs or shell out tons of cash for exotics that hardly get driven. bottomline, b/c they like it.

[Ritz S14]

Bragging rights!!!!!!!!!

[wingsnthangs]

Bragging rights!!!!!!!!!
99.9% of the time, yeah pretty much.

Some people are constantly unsatisfied with their 240's and feel the need to constantly upgrade them. Unsatiable desire to mod?

Personally, I'm completely satisfied with a stock, well-maintained, smooth-running engine, and feel no need to replace an engine part that is functioning perfectly.

[goodjuan]

i just like messing with machines...for some reason i see beauty in function. Driving is pretty fun too.

-*sigh* who am i kidding?? i'm probably trying to make up for my inferior wang. :wtc:

[sideviewcivic]

only thing worth modding on a S13 are the seats, other fixing the peek-a-boo check light i would be fine with it stock. Give me a bride brix for the street and call it a day. Just add Eibach springs with AGX struts to tighten things up and be satisfied. There are those who mod cars because they want to see what they can create, while others have a purpse-built car. If everyone had cars that could not go above the speed limit, imagine freeway driving.... Plus in some instances, that power is used to pull and tow things, not necessarily a 240sx but you get the idea. Personally I want an NSX with taitec exhaust and taitec kit and BBS LM wheels and track that damn car. Personally everycar I own I want to track it. My reason for getting a 4-door sedan for my fiance rather then an SUV.

[FRpilot]

the need for speed... the need to have more hp.. braggin rights i too i guess... but the urge to make the most hp possible.. iono thats why i want to build up some crazy motor.. to have hella power that is not ususuable?

[that180guy]

99.9% of the time, yeah pretty much.

Some people are constantly unsatisfied with their 240's and feel the need to constantly upgrade them. Unsatiable desire to mod?

Personally, I'm completely satisfied with a stock, well-maintained, smooth-running engine, and feel no need to replace an engine part that is functioning perfectly.

:werd: cept for the stock thing

u want it your way. ive always had a unsatireable need to like tinker with stuff or take stuff apart and put it back together.
driving fast? eh....200mph F1 racing.......can u immagine the euphoria that those drivers get?
on the track taking corners? pure fun....
i would say, i mod my car, cuz i wanna drive it, and excel in driving, mods = aid in excelling. driving hards also a high for me. but then, attractiveness always catches the eye, who really wouldnt wanna make their car more attractive?
car = drive
drive = fun
mods = possibilities of driving car harder, hence more fun
thas pretty much how i look at it

[evilimport]

Well, I happen to like the ability to overtake someone on freeways with the smallest amount of effort possible...Horsepower rules....and so does on-ramps.

[driftyour40]

I ask myself this all the time. LOL. I have no idea why I want to mod my car, I just do. The reasons I've come up with in the past are

-I like to drive
-I've met the limitations of my current suspension setup
-I'm tired of loosing to stock cars
-What else am I going to spend my money on?
-Nothing else interests me
-Seeing what other people have done, makes me want to do it
-I want to track drive my car one day (soon)

I’m sure there are other reasons too, I just can’t think of them.

[driftracer]

For me its a little bit of everything, but the main thing is that if you do something to your car respectively, it's like driving a new car each time. It's that feeling that makes it worth it most of the time for me :)

[bkfill]

I really like...
Pick up
Well what was it.. not pick up... response time maybe?
acceleration?
I dunno man its a thrill when your foot hits the trottle down then your neck snaps back
then your head gets sucked into the seat, its just the best feeling in the world

EDIT: I REMOVED
"braggin rites" from the top

[AlligatorBling]

So i was wondering, what is the reason for you guys to own a cool fast car? even with speed limitation, and all of you who are so opposed to street racing, and for the guys who own a fast car without taking them to the track (for personal preference), why the fast cars? whats the reason for a 250-400hp street car?


just a random thought...

The same reason people love food, sex, drugs, loud concerts, theme parks, ect. Fast cars feed our sensory addictions. Going down a back road at 45 mph and slamming the gear box into 2nd and ripping though the gears as I watch the needle climb and the scenery become a blur is almost as good as, do I dare to say? lol.

[SoCalS14]

^ werd. I love the feelling of accelaration...I don't even need to surpass the speed limit, simetimes its that pull to 80 (ok past the limit) that feels great...Lets not go into pulling past a hundo...That gives me wood.

[MakotoS13]

this is the dumbest thread ever to be crapped out on a car forum. if you have to ask you don't belong.

[Doriftomodachi]

this is the dumbest thread ever to be crapped out on a car forum. if you have to ask you don't belong.

What he said. :down: :stupid: Go buy a 3 cylinder Chevy Sprint

[justinhustle]

to get chics duh

ask your sister why she likes my fast car ;)

[sykikchimp]

I would say it's 90% adrenaline 10% braggin rights.

I found that as I progress in skill at the track, I get less of an adrenaline rush for it given the same car. So adding performance enhacing parts, and making the car faster fills the adrenaline void. Competition is fun too. HPDE's are really competitions, but when you are in the same run group as your friend, there is some undeniable competiotion going on b/w you and them on track.

[90RS13]

What I don't get is the fact that people ask me why I do stuff to my car, but I never see people asking a 50 year old guy, with a 500 hp 69 mustang, why he does it. But oh well. Anywho, here's the answer... SOME POEPLE JUST LOVE CARS!

I love cars. I love everything about them. I went to highschool with a guy that's dad built mustangs constantly. He would completely restore them, then make them fast, then sell em. He just loves building cars. Some people like the feeling of driving a 400 hp car, even if they don't use it.

if you have to ask you don't belong.

That's exactly what it boils down to.

[Ian]

i like the feeling of when you put it in 3rd gear at 20 mph and then floor it and slowly feel yourself getting embedded in the seat...i love launching in 1st gear, catching traction, going WOT and then losing traction a second time in the same gear...i love the way people look at my car as i drive by and my BOV makes them think that transformers finally came out with a life sized action figure...

just a few of my reasons :-p

[rainier]

Well, I happen to like the ability to overtake someone on freeways with the smallest amount of effort possible...Horsepower rules....and so does on-ramps.


yes so do on ramps.. haha fun.

but yeah seriously we fix them up since theres nothing else to spend all there time with.

[pimp1911]

Hell some of us dont have a choice. We either bought our 240 without a engine or have a engine with 1 million miles on it.

[Var]

I mod my car out of frustration. Every time i look at any car i think the manufacturer did a shitty job in designing most of it. Cars from the factory(most) are "incomplete." For some cars they leave it up to you to put the finishing touches on it(M3, vette, etc) . For other cars like a 240, they left a lot to be desired so people end up going balls out in mods.

Most of the time when judge a car, i think to myself "i would buy that car if it weighed 1000 lbs less."

Examples.

EVO
STI or regular WRX
M3
M5
Supra
Viper.

Something always shits on me liking a car. This year we finally got a car that was perfect on paper, from performance to weight to price. The Lotus Elise. Then i found out the production numbers are too low and they will be sold way over the 40K sticker price.

[96WhiteG20]

I would agree with the bragging rights, the hp gain, and the adrenaline (on and off track sometimes), But I just do it to be unique, I am not going to go NFS Undgerground style on any car I own, but a nice clean look that I can be proud that my car is different from every other stock looking car out there.

[old_s13]

For all of you guys who say "bragging rights" as one of the reasons you own a fast car:

FUCK YOU.

Bragging rights, this has to be one of the most stupid reasons for wanting something, anything, and especially a car. Take a step back and realize how materialistic and fake you are, because what you own shouldnt represent who you are. Modest people dont need to brag, but then again.. it just goes to show that you arent modest.

When people ask me why I do what I do to my car, I tell them because its for the love of it. Think about it, single man have NOTHING in their lives.. you wake up, take a shit, watch some porno, work, sleep, fuck.. I mean seriously, put aside what we own and we are NOTHING..

...until we find a good woman, get married, have kids -- then OUR lives are over and we work for that, the sole purpose of building our family. Then? Repeat, our kids go through the SAME shit and thats the cycle of life.

So when people ask me why I work on cars? Why not? I love it and I could care less about anything else I do with my money. I love fucking my money away on things that are fun, this is the beauty of life.. especially since you cant take your money with you when you die. So, I enjoy cars and I enjoy learning, and thats why I fix them up.

When I drive my car, I feel I am given gods-feet -- I can manuever and fly however I desire. The satisfaction of moving my car in any direction at any given time, having the grip and power to do so. That puts a big ass smile on my face. When people compliment me on the appearance and customizations, or when they call me crazy (in that good way).. that is all just an added benefit.

Its a shame when you run into the materialistic car crowd who fix up their cars for bragging rights or attention, because it just goes to show how insecure you really are about yourself and your life. You read about it all the time on the NSX forums and Supra forums "I'm so glad I finally got this car, I cant wait to see how women will jock me." And what type of women give you their attention? Money grubbing whores. Good girls will appreciate you for who you are, not what you own or what you drive.

Oh well.

[wingsnthangs]

I thought the subject was large horsepower numbers, not cars. Whatever.

[nightwalker]

My car is not fast. It won't be for awhile. I'm modify and tune for balance.

[JaeTea]

and for the guys who own a fast car without taking them to the track (for personal preference), why the fast cars?

I've been trying to figure that out for YEARS. I call those people sad.

If I see a Ferrari or hooked up S2000 I'll ask them if they take it to the track. If they say no, I'll say "What a waste." dead to their face. Actually whether its fast or not is a moot point. A Mini or Miata, isn't "fast" but if you put money into hooking one up I hope you're taking it to Auto-X or the track to kick some C5 ass!


If you have a fast car and don't take it to the track and use it at least "ONCE" for what it was built for, you're no better than the guy with the led washer squirters.

Its like buying $500 racing shoes to walk across the street to Wawa.

[old_s13]

wings> I thought the subject was large horsepower numbers, not cars. Whatever.

While HP and dynographs are important, in my eyes.. its all about response. "Power without perception" .. its pointless to have high HP if your car cant lay it down properly, or if its only for a short burst. Response is key.


night> My car is not fast. It won't be for awhile. I'm modify and tune for balance.

amen.


jaetea> If you have a fast car and don't take it to the track and use it at least "ONCE" for what it was built for, you're no better than the guy with the led washer squirters.

Its like buying $500 racing shoes to walk across the street to Wawa.

I dont agree. Cant you own a sporty-car because you enjoy owning sporty-cars? Just because you own a sportscar, doesnt mean you have to do ANYTHING. I dont take my car to the track, why? Because I dont have the interest and cant really justify spending that kind of time or cash on such. It doesnt make me a poseur, I do what I want. Now, if I showed my car off with all types of stickers trying to gain attention, I can understand.. because now you're asking for the attention and showing off as if you were a racer. But, there's nothing wrong with just buying something and enjoying it, alone.

[Carisma•FR]

95% of my driving don't need the power of my SR, but like the old saying: It's better to have it & not need it, than need it but don't have it.

I bought my 04 Yamaha R1 for a different reason: Nothing beats a 180hp beast that pushes only 400lbs.

[JaeTea]

Just because you own a sportscar, doesnt mean you have to do ANYTHING. I dont take my car to the track, why? Because I dont have the interest and cant really justify spending that kind of time or cash on such.

Well there's a HUGE difference between a "sporty car" and a full blown sportscar.

Sorry but I can't rationalize with the guy with the Z06 who uses it to drive to and from work and pick up the kids from daycare. Or the guy with the Carrera GT4 Turbo who only drives it to the mall on the weekends.

Also I'm referring more to the people who spend tens of thousands of dollars on seats, tires, rims, suspension just so they can get a few "ooh and ahhs" at car meets.

[MakotoS13]

95% of my driving don't need the power of my SR, but like the old saying: It's better to have it & not need it, than need it but don't have it.


what are you a driver for the mafia? nobody NEEDS the extra power. some people ask me why i spend thousands of dollars on heaps like my S13 and all i have to say is "cause i want to". why do i have a freakin network in my house and a computer that is specifically built by me for me? cause i want to.

its the way i like it and the way its gonna be.

[mr_240sx]

what are you a driver for the mafia? nobody NEEDS the extra power. some people ask me why i spend thousands of dollars on heaps like my S13 and all i have to say is "cause i want to". why do i have a freakin network in my house and a computer that is specifically built by me for me? cause i want to.

its the way i like it and the way its gonna be.
Well said MakotoS13!! I can definately relate to that!

[Twinkie]

this is the dumbest thread ever to be crapped out on a car forum. if you have to ask you don't belong.

Its not that i DONT KNOW. my reason for this thread is just to see why most of you prefer a sr20'ed out 240sx rather than a tiny 3cylinder geometro...because in my perspective, i see so many guys out there who are so into their cars, spending thousands of dollars on their babies who dont even take ther cars to the tracks and yet, they are so opposed to street racing. so whats the purpose of the car...its something to think about.

and them guys who talk big about not street racing..i am pretty SURE that theyve takin their car up to it's limits on the streets. in my opinion...its kinda hypocritical.

well anyway...back to the subject..WHY FAST CARS??? i say this subject is soemthing that one cant really explain but to only experience. having an awesome car is somethign to take pride in.

but i mean, dont get me wrong...IF i had the spared thousands of dollars to spend on my car, i hella would! just because id love to walk out from my house everymorning and see such a beauty from my front porch and knowing it can go from 0 - 60 in 3 seconds and 10 second 1/4 mile.

however, i also kinda dont agree with having a cool car is somethign to brag about. its a personal preference for your own love. if you know it, keep it to yourself to take pride in. i have to agree that its nice sometimes that people recognize your car and give you props though.

[Maeda]

what are you a driver for the mafia? nobody NEEDS the extra power.

Ever try to get on the 110S from the mariposa exit?

Stop sign and about 50 feet to get to over 70 and not get creamed by stupid LA drivers......

[SilviaDriver]

it is to appreciate my own sense of style and reflect my art work in another forum than clothes

[old_s13]

Well there's a HUGE difference between a "sporty car" and a full blown sportscar.

Actually, there isnt really a definition for what makes a car a sportscar. True, the more stripped down and bare-bone a car is, the more of a spartan it is. But, lets not forget cars like the Miata which are weak but still very much sportscars. Everyone has a different value of what sportscar really means, and how extreme they want to take that term.


Sorry but I can't rationalize with the guy with the Z06 who uses it to drive to and from work and pick up the kids from daycare. Or the guy with the Carrera GT4 Turbo who only drives it to the mall on the weekends.

Why not? If daddy wants to do that, daddy can.. especially when daddy works his ass off for the car and can afford his luxuries. If someone owns a Z06, doesnt mean they have to drive the living balls out of it. Now, if it was me.. I would be the type of person who enjoys romping on things. But, again.. to what extreme? If you romp on your sportscar in your own leisure, then its cool. But to compete? To street race? To take it to the track? Why must anyone do anything to prove to others what they're good at? Its best left to ones' OWN enjoyment. If they take it to the track, kudos to them.. but taking it to the track doesnt make the person any more hardcore in my book. I believe the craziness is from within. Besides, lets not forget.. the more thats been invested in a car, whether it be time or money (or both), the harder it is to drive the piss out of it because you worry about the risks.. no one wants to lose their investment.

So.. you figure it out.


Ever try to get on the 110S from the mariposa exit?
Stop sign and about 50 feet to get to over 70 and not get creamed by stupid LA drivers......

Exactly.. power IS needed, to an extent. Anyone who's been on the 110 understands and appreciates:
- good suspension
- good brakes (to stop you for those 65 to **10** mph exits!
- well maintained and reasonably strong motor

Mike

[aznpoopy]

Its not that i DONT KNOW. my reason for this thread is just to see why most of you prefer a sr20'ed out 240sx rather than a tiny 3cylinder geometro...

a while back i heard they were doing an amateur class for rally that was limited to 4spd 3cyl geo metros, the reason being cost of ownership and keeping it safe for new drivers. don't knock the geo metro... ;)


and them guys who talk big about not street racing..i am pretty SURE that theyve takin their car up to it's limits on the streets. in my opinion...its kinda hypocritical.

slowly and gradually building up to a 'safe' limit on the street (or track) is one thing. taking ur car out and driving way past your ability with passengers in the car is something else. btw, u should never have anyone in the backseat when ur doing this bs (im assuming u have a 240). if u flip or some shit theres a good chance the ppl in the backseat will not be able to escape the car. last year some kid on one of these forums died this way (car caught on fire, stuck in the back of a coupe).


well anyway...back to the subject..WHY FAST CARS??? i say this subject is soemthing that one cant really explain but to only experience. having an awesome car is somethign to take pride in.


having an awesome car is something anyone with enough money can do. there's no pride in that. building an awesome car 100% by yourself, or having awesome car control skill is what you should take pride in imo.

[90RS13]

I don't get some of you people. Why does there have to be a reason to have a fast car???? The guy with a Z06 Corvette might just love the heritage, look, feel, etc, of the car. Someone could even love cars, but not love driving on a track. What's wrong with that? To each his own. I would like to someday own a car with 1,500 hp. That doesn't mean I want to drive it on a track, or even at all. Some people like fast cars. Some poeple like cars with power.

I don't understand why people can't realize that some people just want a fast car. Not to track. Not to go fast. Not to impress. Just to have a fast car. Like I said earlier, if you saw a old retired guy in his 69 mustang, that he just restored, with 500 hp, would you ask him why he needs the power? If you would, then your a moron I don't consider you a real car enthusiast.

so whats the purpose of the car :gives:

[420sx]

Every time i look at any car i think the manufacturer did a shitty job in designing most of it. Cars from the factory(most) are "incomplete."

you could not have said it better. i cant look at my car and think "wow, how perfect". all i think is
i need to change this next paycheck,
or, once i get my student loan ill do a swap, or
a thousand more things. :loco:

[EH9]

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[Carisma•FR]

what are you a driver for the mafia? nobody NEEDS the extra power. some people ask me why i spend thousands of dollars on heaps like my S13 and all i have to say is "cause i want to". why do i have a freakin network in my house and a computer that is specifically built by me for me? cause i want to.

its the way i like it and the way its gonna be.
You obviously missed my point there. What I meant by "need" is the occasional "need for speed". I'm refering the extra power from a well-build motor under the command of your right foot, whenever you want it. That's MY REASON why I chose to mod my car.

Anybody with half a brain can figure even a Geo Metro can speed beyond the speed limit anywhere in this country. I don't see the need to rub that in.

btw if you happen to know any Gambino members looking to hire a part-time Asian driver I'd be happy to give it a shot.

[TheSnail]

Some of you may be in my predicaments, but I wake up at 2-4pm, take a shower, drink coffee, work in my garage, go to the shop and build other peoples cars, then come home drink, and work on my car, then get on zilvia around 1-3am and go to sleep around 4-7am. Over and over (80% of the time) . I have turned albino from not seeing the sun. I know when I ‘m an old geezer , I will look back into my prime years and bitch at myself for” wrenchin” instead of “clappin balls”. But I have convinced my self to not think about what the old me will think. Its what I love to do. It is fun to me to daily drive not a sports car or a supercar, but a strait up, balls out deathtrap. Its fun to play with life and take risks(not others). 115 in a 25 meets my fancy. Playing with death for excitement is bad, but It tastes so good as it touches my lips. (Frank tha Tank). I’m am sure there are others that have the same views as me, but all in all, I have a disease.

[sideviewcivic]

your R1 makes 180hp!!! is it boosted. I mean a ducati 999 makes around 155approx. the power to weight ratio on a bike is lucious, only thing that can take it is an F1 car. Awhile back on MotorSport Mundial, Honda hosted a drag race. BAR/Honda F1-Jeson Button, Honda VTR1000-Nicky Hayden(dont quote me), and a built race boat. initially the bike checked out, by 3rd gear the F1 car caught it and left it.

[MakotoS13]

You obviously missed my point there. What I meant by "need" is the occasional "need for speed". I'm refering the extra power from a well-build motor under the command of your right foot, whenever you want it. That's MY REASON why I chose to mod my car.

Anybody with half a brain can figure even a Geo Metro can speed beyond the speed limit anywhere in this country. I don't see the need to rub that in.

btw if you happen to know any Gambino members looking to hire a part-time Asian driver I'd be happy to give it a shot.

you're missing the point, maverick. you WANT these things so just freakin accept it. calling a want a need is half the problem with this screwed up planet.

[old_s13]

Some of you may be in my predicaments, but I wake up at 2-4pm, take a shower, drink coffee, work in my garage, go to the shop and build other peoples cars, then come home drink, and work on my car, then get on zilvia around 1-3am and go to sleep around 4-7am. Over and over (80% of the time) . I have turned albino from not seeing the sun. I know when I ‘m an old geezer , I will look back into my prime years and bitch at myself for” wrenchin” instead of “clappin balls”. But I have convinced my self to not think about what the old me will think. Its what I love to do. It is fun to me to daily drive not a sports car or a supercar, but a strait up, balls out deathtrap. Its fun to play with life and take risks(not others). 115 in a 25 meets my fancy. Playing with death for excitement is bad, but It tastes so good as it touches my lips. (Frank tha Tank). I’m am sure there are others that have the same views as me, but all in all, I have a disease.

IMO, working on cars falls short when compared to much more enjoyable things, like feelin on a girl's very round ass in a bed of silk sheets, thats fo'sho. i still LIKE working on my car, but i LOVE suckin on'dem tittays.

[wootwoot]

...Because its fun......

[sykikchimp]

...Because its fun......


and that's really what it's all about.

[minhbestunnin]

i like that .... thats the way i feel

[pruto]

ok, do you guys want the long version or the short version? lol

i actually wrote a term paper on this sort of thing for my psychology class a few weeks ago.

basic points: adaptation. get used to speed, aspiration level is constantly changing. thats why a lot of people feel like they want and need more power. Your butt dyno will detune itself.
we have an innate drive to do stupid and exciting things, people who like fast cars are sensation seekers and more so than the majority of the population. There are psychological and physiological mechanisms in effect that makes it enjoyable and addictive. Its like asking why surfers wants to take on 40 footers. It baffles the rest of us but becomes a no brainer to them.

as for myself. it is fun, i like working on my car, and driving/drifting it, its relaxing sometimes and exciting at other times, both of which takes me away from stress or real world problems. but honestly, i got over the need for a really fast car a while ago. I enjoy my stock KA just fine, i probably will go turbo some time in the future for the sake of third gear drifting, but its no biggie if i don't ever upgrade from my 155hp.

and this is one of those subjects that if you really don't understand, you won't "get it" no matter how we put it to you.

[evilimport]

Frankly, I just dont feel very safe in a "slow" car.... a car you have to flog to death just to get up to the speed of normal traffic...

[drift freaq]

I like fast cars because I like to go fast , just like I like a drifting because I like to drift. Adrenaline sheer adrenaline. I perform music live in front of an audience and I get high off the their excitment( playing live at raves) . Its called stimulation. You get it from driving fast , Musicans , actors/performers get it from their audiences . Skydivers get it from skydiving. If you can't understand it them maybe you should be driving a grocery getter?
The day I get tired of going fast is the day I turn in my keys to any kind of fast car. I don't think thats going to happen. Living in socal the average freeway speed is 80 mph non rush hour . I love that. Hell I even know chp officers that have told my friends they would not pull anyone over down here unless they were going above 80.
Hell even rush hour traffic is fast here . YOu see people doign 60 mph bumper to bumper.
I also feel like evilimport, I want a car thats going to get out of its own fucking way real damn fast. Wh because speed allows me manuvaribility around the idgits that can't drive. I was once asked back when I used to live in San Francisco do I ride a motorcyle, I was like why and the person said you drive like someone who rides motorcyles. Well hell motorcylists go fast and can manuver. the learn to be able to manuver around dangerous i.e. drivers who do not look before doing things. I also did delivery, so I needed to get places quickly.
so having a high hp fast car feels good plain and simple for many reasons, many personel. thats it now will someone please close this thread ? thank you.
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[s13Dr1ft]

I do it for my personal satisfaction. Building a beast of a car by hand is far more rewarding then having someone do it for you. Plus i like seeing the looks on people faces when we get sucked into the seats

Bragging rights is a dumb way to look at a car, If you have to brag about your car its not worth it. Let other people do that for you.

jordan