View Full Version : S15 SR20DET Into S14
Edgar
12-09-2004, 09:32 PM
Wanted to get some more information on this swap. How much custome work would need to be done in order to get this working the correct way. Any info on this would be greatly appreciate it. Im just trying to add up some numbers and see how much more would I have to spend and what all im going to need.
Engine is not the problem.
What all extra is needed on this swap. Is it as easy as putting Red Top into S13?
Thank You
Edgar
WILDACEX187
12-09-2004, 10:37 PM
if im not mistaken i think it bolts right up, just get the wiring done right since i think its different than the s13 sr. u will need ur stock s14 driveshaft i think. thats about it, i dont recall there being anything special required, its just the engine is kinda expensive.
Edgar
12-10-2004, 12:55 AM
Axles? Nothing like that?
Soulja
12-10-2004, 04:52 AM
You need the rear diff, because the speed sensor is on the diff, and not the trans. Henceforth, your going to need the axles also, along with the s15 driveshaft.
linkwpc
12-10-2004, 05:57 AM
I have a S15 in my S14 now. There are not that much you got to do... well its more then the other engines... You need to mod you driveshaft, rear diff with a speed sensor, diff trans mount (It a little harder to line up), and LOT of wiring and its harder then the other engines. You do not need different axles. I still have my S14 rearend and driveshaft. But its better buy a S15 driveshaft and diff with the engine. BUT this engine rocks! :rawk:
slideways240
12-10-2004, 07:13 AM
pretty much what link says. i bought mine with the S15 driveshaft,dif,and axles. so it all went in like it was meant to be there. if you plan on using the S14 speedo you need to buy a dakota digital SGI. to get it working properly.
WILDACEX187
12-10-2004, 09:32 AM
does the s14 rear end have a speed sensor?if not how the hell do u put one in there lol. u cant use ur s14 driveshaft?
Edgar
12-10-2004, 09:33 AM
I have a S15 in my S14 now. There are not that much you got to do... well its more then the other engines... You need to mod you driveshaft, rear diff with a speed sensor, diff trans mount (It a little harder to line up), and LOT of wiring and its harder then the other engines. You do not need different axles. I still have my S14 rearend and driveshaft. But its better buy a S15 driveshaft and diff with the engine. BUT this engine rocks! :rawk:
How do you like it? Is it real diffrent from the RED TOP? more info will be appreciated.
Thanks
Edgar
linkwpc
12-10-2004, 11:47 AM
How do you like it? Is it real diffrent from the RED TOP? more info will be appreciated.
Thanks
Edgar
Well I never had a red top. But I know its faster of course. I'm sure that I have a lot more top end power then a red top but about the same torque. But I do got to shift a LOT!! Main I think since I still had my S14 Auto diff with higher gears then a normal s15 would. But its a nice engine. Its a bit loud in the inside of the car but not a lot on the outside. The 6th gear is nice but if you want to save gas you got to be there all the time. This engine LOVEs to rev. My engine came with other things like cold air and Mines ECU and better coil pack. So my car is a little better then stock. I took my car to LS AUTO and they installed my engine. My engine cost me $2500 and they installed it for $2000 and thats for everything. Like wiring, intercooler install and piping, gauges, air con, fuel pump, mod my driveshaft and diff and other little things. Also they made my speedo work too. Overall I think its a very nice engine. But I do not think you should get it unless you buy the S15 engine cheap or you do the install yourself. Good luck! oh and heres a pic ;)
http://www.geocities.com/squaresoft_99/240s15ready3.jpg
Edgar
12-10-2004, 01:38 PM
Nice.
Ill keep you updated on what me and the guys are going to do.
WILDACEX187
12-11-2004, 01:39 AM
i would love to know wat mod has to be done to the driveshaft for the speedo to work.
slideways240
12-11-2004, 09:42 AM
i would love to know wat mod has to be done to the driveshaft for the speedo to work.
none. the driveshaft has nothing to do with it. the problem with the speedo is that the 6speed does not have a speed sensor like the 5speed. the speed sensor is in the diff. therefore if you don't have the s15 diff, you don't have a speed sensor. i really don't think the s14 driveshaft will work with the s15 tranny ad diff. i have to admit though ,that i didn't try it as i had the s15 driveshaft readily available.
Edgar
12-11-2004, 11:04 AM
What about useing a s14 5 speed with the swap?
fliprayzin240sx
12-11-2004, 12:02 PM
Well I never had a red top. But I know its faster of course. I'm sure that I have a lot more top end power then a red top but about the same torque. But I do got to shift a LOT!! Main I think since I still had my S14 Auto diff with higher gears then a normal s15 would. But its a nice engine. Its a bit loud in the inside of the car but not a lot on the outside. The 6th gear is nice but if you want to save gas you got to be there all the time. This engine LOVEs to rev. My engine came with other things like cold air and Mines ECU and better coil pack. So my car is a little better then stock. I took my car to LS AUTO and they installed my engine. My engine cost me $2500 and they installed it for $2000 and thats for everything. Like wiring, intercooler install and piping, gauges, air con, fuel pump, mod my driveshaft and diff and other little things. Also they made my speedo work too. Overall I think its a very nice engine. But I do not think you should get it unless you buy the S15 engine cheap or you do the install yourself. Good luck! oh and heres a pic ;)
http://www.geocities.com/squaresoft_99/240s15ready3.jpg
Whoa...Less than $5k for a S15 swap? $2.5k for the engine...thats cheaper than freakin S14 blacktops out there!!!
Edgar
12-11-2004, 01:01 PM
Yea im getting a good deal on mine as well.
Some minor upgrades if I actually go thru with getting the S15 motor. Im thinking Red Top some bolt on's :D
WILDACEX187
12-12-2004, 01:44 AM
is the s15 driveshaft the same length as the s14? wat about a s13 driveshaft?
linkwpc
12-13-2004, 06:12 AM
is the s15 driveshaft the same length as the s14? wat about a s13 driveshaft?
Both S14 and S13 are not the same length. I think my S14 shaft was cut a bit to make it fit the 6 Speed. I think there lot more work with the S13.
Tenchuu
12-13-2004, 10:08 AM
2500 for the engine itelf isn't bad, but it's a great deal shipped. I got a buddy to pick up My S15 w 30000KM on it for 2800 but that included everthing except a diff and a Cuscu super single clutch. But the 2000 worth or shipping seemed steep. But that was from japan to My doorstep shipping.
Does anyone know if you need the output shafts to go with the S15 diff, or will the 5 lug 240SX SX stuff work?? Looking into getting a diff and switching that out too.
slideways240
12-13-2004, 12:33 PM
2500 for the engine itelf isn't bad, but it's a great deal shipped. I got a buddy to pick up My S15 w 30000KM on it for 2800 but that included everthing except a diff and a Cuscu super single clutch. But the 2000 worth or shipping seemed steep. But that was from japan to My doorstep shipping.
Does anyone know if you need the output shafts to go with the S15 diff, or will the 5 lug 240SX SX stuff work?? Looking into getting a diff and switching that out too. the bolt pattern looks the same as the s14 6bolt. i can't remember if i changed em out or not though. it's been a couple years since my swap.
YelloSRT
12-22-2004, 03:34 PM
Hey i have a quick question I also have a S15 SR20 w/ 6 speed tranny... When you order a clutch kit does it have to be the S15 SR 6 speed or can it be any of the SR's? Im having a bit of a problem everyone keeps telling me that they dont carry it for the S15 6 speed. I should have my sr installed in my car by 1/05. $2800 for the engine is pretty good, I paid $3000 for a S13 Hatch that had the S15 SR in it already and the mods are:T3/T4 tricked out, Top feed fuel rail, 650cc inj., Bosch FPR, Custom FMIC, 3.5 inch DP into 3 inch exhaust, S15 rear end (Driveshaft,LSD, Axles, etc.), Optima battery w/ relocation kit, also SR was fully machined and bored, Cosmetic 1.2mm HG, New Wiseco pistons, new Stock Rods, polished Crank w/ new bearing and its controlled by a Microtech Ecu. Hopefully everything will turn out good.
Thanks in advance for any advice,
Paul
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