charcoal canister removed?

[XXX4life]

ok so we i swapped an DOHC into my SOHC car my friend removed the canister and everything with it, now i have a misterious vaccum line that i don't know where it goes, what have other done that have removed their canister? has anyone else had any issues?

[mjjstang]

no issues, just plug any lines that you have left over, well mine was different cauze I put the sr in at same time, and just used common sense, with some help from zilvians to run new lines to what I needed, but with the addition of soooooo much bullshit emissions on the ka, it can be a mess, so like I said, Id just plug the line, with a vaccum cap or whatever they are called, you can get them at murrys or your favorite auto store.

[XXX4life]

well here's the issue, when i plug the line the car dies :( i don't get it???

[mjjstang]

OH well itd helped to know that, hmmm I seem to remember a post about this or something like this a few weeks ago, dont remember if it was about the cc canister though.

[XXX4life]

yeah i'm at a loss here, i have no clue where to start, there is a vaccum line under the throttle body that still has vaccum and if i plug it the car dies??

[projectRDM]

F S M.

It's not rocket science, look it up and find out what the line is, and where it goes. The only line that would affect the motor would be the SCV input, but it shouldn't kill it.

[XXX4life]

my FSM is on order so should be here in a few days

[projectRDM]

Why not download it now to verify the issue you're having, before you make it worse.

[XXX4life]

where can i download it from?

[idlafie]

ok so we i swapped an DOHC into my SOHC car my friend removed the canister and everything with it, now i have a misterious vaccum line that i don't know where it goes, what have other done that have removed their canister? has anyone else had any issues?

The Carbon Canister is part of your Evaporative Emission System & is used to reduce hydrocarbon gasses from being emitted into the atmosphere thru the fuel system. The carbon canister prevents the vapors from your gasoline tank from escaping into the atmosphere. The canister does this by storing the fuel vapors in the activated charcoals located inside the carbon canister. When you start your car up, the engine takes the fumes from your carbon canister & shoots them back into the intake.

By removing the carbon canister & opening up the vacuum line directly to atmosphere, you basically opened up a way of getting unfiltered dirt & debris into your intake manifold. The fuel system is supposed to be a sealed system, where all the gasoline vapors are supposed to be trapped in while the engine is off. When the engine is started & running, the carbon canister pulls a vacuum thru a purge valve located inside the carbon canister and forces all that vapor back into the intake.

By taking out the carbon canister, you're allowing gasoline vapors to escape unchecked into the atmosphere anytime the engine is not running. What does this mean to you? You'll lose a couple of gallons of gasoline thru that open vacuum line. You've opened up a way for the gasoline in your gas tank to evaporate.

Try not to park to close to any open flames...gasoline vapors like to travel. Any open flames near your car & gasoline vapors, well you might as well start running.....
BOOOOOOOM!!!!......
http://www.cob.org/fire/safety/Gasoline

Don't believe me? Wait till summer comes around & it's hot as hell...You'll be smelling gasoline all around your car all the time.

Anyhow, hope this helps...

ID

[XXX4life]

good info but that still doesn't tell me what that open vaccum source is coming from

[Drunk Bastard]

where can i download it from?
search for it. ive posted it before, and now..again..
service manuals (http://www.zeroyon.com/TheSite/techservice.html)

[Var]

You'll lose a couple of gallons of gasoline thru that open vacuum line.


Some smog website said if you have a faulty gas cap you can lose up to 100 gallons of gas per year.

[idlafie]

good info but that still doesn't tell me what that open vaccum source is coming from

Your open vacuum source is coming from the missing carbon canister. The intake sucks air thru both the carbon canister and thru the EGR & Canister Control Solenoid valve. The purge valve that was in the carbon canister connected these two systems together. You're gonna have to figure out how to connect those two systems back together again. Get your hands on a FSM & check the vacuum diagrams for both the Evaporative Emission System and the EGR system. Look specifically at the carbon canister AND the EGR & Canister Control Solenoid valve. Once you look at that diagram you'll understand what I'm talking about.
Good luck....
ID

[XXX4life]

thanks, it's gonna be such a pain in the ass, those vaccum line behind the motor are so hard to get to :(