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coldfire07
11-08-2004, 04:38 PM
(This is copied and pasted from my car website/blog, which can be found at www.coldfire07.com/s14. I've got other pictures up there if ya'll would like to check them out.)

It's about time I got an LSD installed. Install was tiring and took a long time, but everything happened as planned.

Getting the differential pumpkin down was already quite a challenge. I had to go buy ratchet wrenches (a welcome addition to the toolbox) or it would have taken forever. The factory Nissan thread locker is insane. Anyways, we managed to get the differential down with aid from the jack well. We opened up the case, got the side seals off, C-clamps, etc, and tore out the insides. Putting the new differential in was a bit tough, but manageable. We then put the differential back on the jack and connected everything back together. The install took about 8 hours including break in and new fluid change, but we took a few breaks and were very cautious.

This differential is pretty loud. That was the first thing I noticed on the way to an empty parking lot. The break-in procedure consists of doing figure 8's for thirty minutes, and then changing the differential oil one more time. I took a test drive, and I can get on the throttle much, much sooner now. I still haven't even come close to pushing it because it's not worth risking hitting a curb. The Texas Drift event is next Sunday anyways.

The car is much more responsive, and the only bad parts include the pretty loud noise, which should get better as I drive hard on it, and the hole it burned in my pocket. I foresee many people telling me my car is broken, don't be one of those fags.

And now, the pictures. Click for 1600x1200.

http://www.coldfire07.com/forums/110704-01.jpg (http://www.coldfire07.com/s14/photos/110704-01.jpg)
http://www.coldfire07.com/forums/110704-02.jpg (http://www.coldfire07.com/s14/photos/110704-02.jpg)
http://www.coldfire07.com/forums/110704-03.jpg (http://www.coldfire07.com/s14/photos/110704-03.jpg)
http://www.coldfire07.com/forums/110704-04.jpg (http://www.coldfire07.com/s14/photos/110704-04.jpg)
http://www.coldfire07.com/forums/110704-05.jpg (http://www.coldfire07.com/s14/photos/110704-05.jpg)
http://www.coldfire07.com/forums/110704-06.jpg (http://www.coldfire07.com/s14/photos/110704-06.jpg)
http://www.coldfire07.com/forums/110704-07.jpg (http://www.coldfire07.com/s14/photos/110704-07.jpg)
http://www.coldfire07.com/forums/110704-08.jpg (http://www.coldfire07.com/s14/photos/110704-08.jpg)
http://www.coldfire07.com/forums/080904-19.jpg (http://www.coldfire07.com/s14/photos/080904-19.jpg)


Here's one I think turned out quite nice, it's my current wallpaper.

http://www.coldfire07.com/forums/hq-02.jpg (http://www.coldfire07.com/s14/photos/hq-02.jpg)

sLiDewAys
11-08-2004, 04:57 PM
good come up man, nice instal pics. how much did u pay for this unit. i myself is getting intrested in geting an aftermarket diff.

brandon

coldfire07
11-08-2004, 05:02 PM
It was $1026 shipped. I forgot to mention in the original post, this was bought through a Zilvia groupbuy from www.jdmfresh.com aka Mid-Atlantic Motorsports. I wouldn't hesitate to order from them again.

mike13
11-08-2004, 09:28 PM
that looks almost exactly like a KAAZ solid 2-way.

XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX
11-08-2004, 10:33 PM
wasnt there two types of deft force the carbon fiber plate and the regular one. which one is that and does carbon fiber last longer or somthing?

thx247
11-08-2004, 11:01 PM
did you shim the diff?

Flybert
11-09-2004, 02:04 AM
did you shim the diff?

From what I've learned, if you had to shim your diff, you probably did something wrong. I've only seen one person who said they needed to shim it. Also for the original poster, get some LSD additive and quiet that thing down. It will quiet down a lot.

Johny5
11-09-2004, 05:49 AM
i got the chance to take a ride in this diff last night. it was amazing. one of the first 240s i've been in that can actually just completely mash the pedal in a turn and not kick out. i'm a huge fan! i want an ats 2way :cry:

mike13
11-09-2004, 06:54 AM
i got the chance to take a ride in this diff last night. it was amazing. one of the first 240s i've been in that can actually just completely mash the pedal in a turn and not kick out. i'm a huge fan! i want an ats 2way :cry:
if you arent oversteering with a 2 way locking diff, something is wrong...

Pank
11-09-2004, 07:50 AM
saw this over in Automotive Insanity at SA. Thanks for the write up, I'm still looking for alternatives to the VLSD

coldfire07
11-09-2004, 02:41 PM
if you arent oversteering with a 2 way locking diff, something is wrong...

It's a 1.5 way differential. I would be able to drift easily if I had crappier tires. Azenis HUG the road, it's very difficult to break them loose. Trust me on this one.

thx247
11-09-2004, 04:18 PM
You can get the rear loose on Azenis, although I wouldn't reccomend trying on the streets. Its all in the setup