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Destructo
11-04-2004, 01:11 PM
I went and bought a set and my mechanic is tell me i need a lower profile wheel to fit them cauze there double sided as apposed to the stock s14 ones. The box and site i got them from said there accplicable to s14. So i guess SE wheels wont do so what size should i get? 17's 18's etc...

Heartwork
11-04-2004, 01:13 PM
tell your mechanic hes fucked up.....

but then again i wouldnt go out and run 12" wheels....
but it should fit, i have plenty of clearance on both my 17's and 18's

Destructo
11-04-2004, 01:20 PM
So they should clear and be fine is what your telling me. Even on 16" se wheels it shoud be fine with no problems. And Basically my mechanic is a jack ass who just doesnt have a clue?

Wei240
11-04-2004, 01:23 PM
yes, i have the kaz s14 ends on my s13 running stock 15", clears fine

Heartwork
11-04-2004, 01:23 PM
go compare your Kazama ends with stock ends...
the Kazama ones are about 1 inch or less, i forgot, longer than stock...
look at your stock ends and the clearance between your wheels...you can fit a watermelon in there

KiDyNomiTe
11-04-2004, 01:32 PM
Ditch the mechanic and do it yourself.

Dousan_PG
11-04-2004, 07:06 PM
haha
your mechanic sucks

oh and dont forget to add those 'johnson rods' he suggested.

coolblue
11-04-2004, 08:47 PM
I have a question on clearance on the Kazama endlinks although not related to them hitting the wheel. Did anyone else check for clearence (when turning the wheels lock to lock) of the lock nut on the bottom of the endlink touching the control arm lip?? I am probably just going to bend the lip a little bit and hopefully get enough clearance but don't like the idea since that little lip gives the control arm alot of strength. This is with the Tein inner tie rod spacers btw (increased turning radius), so those without the spacer shouldn't need to worry. Anyone else have see this??

coolblue
11-08-2004, 07:50 PM
I removed some material from the control arm to try to get some more clearance but there is still touching going on. Will probably get rid of these kazama end links and get the ball joint style rods. Still curious though if anyone else noticed this problem with the same setup??

XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX
11-08-2004, 10:24 PM
I have a question on clearance on the Kazama endlinks although not related to them hitting the wheel. Did anyone else check for clearence (when turning the wheels lock to lock) of the lock nut on the bottom of the endlink touching the control arm lip?? I am probably just going to bend the lip a little bit and hopefully get enough clearance but don't like the idea since that little lip gives the control arm alot of strength. This is with the Tein inner tie rod spacers btw (increased turning radius), so those without the spacer shouldn't need to worry. Anyone else have see this??


i have stock se rims on my s14 with kazama endlinks and uras tie rod. it clears find. i have about 4.5 to 5cm of gap from the bottom of the rim to the endlink. also wen i lock the tire all the way to one direction i have about3.5cm to 4 cm of clearance from the corner of the endlink and the rims lip.


edit: sorry i thought it said rims lip. the wheels turned all the way, my kazama endlinks and the lower control arm lip clears about 3cm. i have nismo lower control arm if that makes any differnce. i dont think it does tho.

projectRDM
11-09-2004, 07:47 AM
i have stock se rims on my s14 with kazama endlinks and uras tie rod. it clears find. i have about 4.5 to 5cm of gap from the bottom of the rim to the endlink. also wen i lock the tire all the way to one direction i have about3.5cm to 4 cm of clearance from the corner of the endlink and the rims lip.


edit: sorry i thought it said rims lip. the wheels turned all the way, my kazama endlinks and the lower control arm lip clears about 3cm. i have nismo lower control arm if that makes any differnce. i dont think it does tho.

Nismo LCA is the same configuration as the OE, it's just painted silver and features a rigid bushing.

lilredstiffy
11-09-2004, 07:50 AM
Not enough clearance for tie rod endlinks? lolololol

Find a new mechanic now! Or go buy some tools!

If its hitting the LCA you probably have snagged a curb somewhere along the line, it should clear fine if everything is tip-top.

XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX
11-09-2004, 12:06 PM
putting those tie rod endlinks arnt hard, u could just use two adjustable wrenches and put em on. but u need to align it after. ur gonna have to do that either way even if that mechanic does it.

coolblue
11-10-2004, 06:18 PM
The end-links would clear fine if I wasn't running the tein-inner rods with the spacer (increased turning radius). Not sure if your uras inner rods have the same thing Japonese23.

Destructo
11-10-2004, 06:30 PM
accutally i got tein inner rods with kazama endlinks. Could this combination have anything to do with it? He said it will clear but its not safe to drive i am assuming because of the wheel locking.

coolblue
11-10-2004, 10:24 PM
Maybe you misunderstood the mechanic then or he didn't state what was happening clearly. If your running the tein-inners (WITH the little spacer installed. Without the spacer there would be no problem), then, if its like mine, the lower nut will hit the lower control arm before the rack hits its stops. Like I said, I grinded about 3/16 of an inch from the control arm lip, as well as some of the lower nut, and it is still hitting the control arm. I think I will contact Phase 2 since they are selling these as a package (and where I bought them from) to see if they are aware of the problem or have actually installed the same setup as me.
I'm also about as confident as I can be that my car has not been in an accident. I've been all under the suspension and see nothing bent, and the control arms are somewhat new (from PDM-racing with the poly bushings).

XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX
11-11-2004, 01:22 AM
im not sure wat u mean wat inner rods mean? does that mean the tie rod? but if it was uras is supposed to or does give me a better turning radius. but i remeber looking at the tein catalogue and it said somthing about hitting somthing. if u have one just look at the tein rod section, it has cautions on it

XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX
11-11-2004, 01:28 AM
i found it

caution 1. always use tein strengthened tie rod toghether with tein strengthened rod end.

caution 2. by using the sapcer( included in the kit), the steering wheel cut off angle will be increased. however it might cause tires and fender/wings to hit eachother or the other parts of the vehicle, depending on the size of the tires and /or wheel. when this happends simply remoivng the spacers could solve the problem, but there will not be any increase in the angle. please use the spacers at your own risk.

ionno if the part were it says oter parts of the vehicle means wat u mean. but i still dont think it should touch. uras is supposed to extend the radius too. another thing that i doubt it can be is that i have kazama tension rod, which pulls the lower control arm to have more possitive castor. but i really doubt that because that means i pulled the lower control arm about 3 cm more than stock (saying that your setup is stock). but 7 deg castor is within specs and thats wat i have it at.