MB Battles have a new successor...

[FaLKoN240]

RIP MB Battle... thank you for being the transition wheel everyone in America needed.

If everyone is wondering why they can't find new MB Battles... It's because they've been replaced.

The new wheel is called MB Revolt.

(It's also $50 cheaper per wheel than MB Battles were.)

https://cdn.discounttire.com/sys-master/images/h89/hbd/8856126029854/wheel_mb_revolt_gunmetal_matte_na_5_20_dp.png

[afishysilvia]

Hmm....I dont like the faces of the spokes. But to each is own.

[Almighty So]

Rip. Was never a giant fan of battles but would rather see them than xxrs. Not a big fan of this design either but cheaper is always cool (if the quality isn’t also lowered)

[anthony_240]

Speaking of garbage ...


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[Green Arrow]

Ugly, with no alibi....

[5280VertDET]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/up-bucket-0/monthly_2016_03/image.jpeg.62137e7f14e484414c389167956387ec.jpeg

[simmode1]

I was never a huge fan of the Battles, but damn these fuckers are repugnant.

[exitspeed]

Yeah those are pretty damn ugly.

[tuzzio]

RIP battles. I liked them on certain cars for sure. But this is awful

[Cannonblaster]

Ugly.............

[jumpman2334]

I understand the battles have been around for forever and im sure some think its gotten stagnant, but Americas tire/MB wheels discontinuing the battle makes zero sense to me with how popular these wheels are. I don't think anyone else could name another wheel that MB makes, aside from the battle (without having to go on their site, revolt excluded).


Id be willing to wager they are by far and away the most popular wheel for the altezza in north America (have you seen the is300 starter pack memes?). I see them regularly on here as well. I could see if they were releasing a v2/updated battle, but you give us that revolt garbage? c'mon. I was going to try and buy a set of battles for backups when I had the spare cash but I guess not now. I don't think ive ever been bummed about 'non-legit' wheels being discontinued. LOL


FYI, anyone looking to buy in 17, I recommend doing ASAP. Americas tire is on ebay and has good deals. The 18s are all gone. :(

[e1_griego]

It's..... revolting.

;)

At least they named it correctly?

[jumpman2334]

not sure if any of you care anymore, but here is what happened. I got this info directly from Direct tire:


The manufacturer that produced the MB Battle for us sold their business so as of right now the Battle is out of production. If that changes, we'll certainly post up!

[FaLKoN240]

That's even more disappointing than the new wheel lol.

[OutlawLui]

Don't those come stock on Honda elements or something lol

[simmode1]

Don't those come stock on Honda elements or something lol
I have a Honda Element. My stock wheels look better than this.

[jumpman2334]

again, not sure if any of your care but ive been chatting with an Americas tire rep on another forum and here is a quick little update:
That being said, I forwarded your comments to our wheel team at our Corporate office and was told that they are exploring the possibility with the new manufacturer of bringing back the Battle in the 17x9 +30, 17x9.5 +15 and 18x9.5 +15 sizes. Fingers crossed!

[simmode1]

^^^You da MVP. Gotta keep the CST/A-Tech's alive... That design has bounced from company to company for like a decade. Don't nobody wanna buy that Revolt shit...lol

[FaLKoN240]

again, not sure if any of your care but ive been chatting with an Americas tire rep on another forum and here is a quick little update:

18x9.5 +23 was a good size too

[brndck]

1: I like battles
2: these new wheels look terrible
3: does a straw have one hole or two?

[jumpman2334]

^^^You da MVP. Gotta keep the CST/A-Tech's alive... That design has bounced from company to company for like a decade. Don't nobody wanna buy that Revolt shit...lol
just out here tryna do the lords work and keep some of these options alive for us. ;)


18x9.5 +23 was a good size too
I knowwwww, bummed about that as I wanted a cheap set of wheels to match my +22 rays if I ever needed spares in a pinch. but at this point in time, ill take what I can get. the altezza starter pack memes will never be the same without 9.5j +23 battles. :/


oh, if anyone is still interested in these but in 17s, they still have some available in 9/9.5j.

[SimpleSexy180]

Paired again, I had two of those regular mb battles, but the football looking half shape is ok.

[ZenkiKid]

i bought a set of these for my FA5 civic si in bronze. 17x8.

Ended up being $200 after discounts and rebate.

[FaLKoN240]

i bought a set of these for my FA5 civic si in bronze. 17x8.

Ended up being $200 after discounts and rebate.

Holy moly that's cheap.

What's the deal going on right now?

[s13silvia123]

My CST's
CST Hyper X limited in Chrome
18x9.5 +12
Probably only set in the country
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1816/HH8EO5.jpg

[ZenkiKid]

Holy moly that's cheap.

What's the deal going on right now?

I bought them back in November the weekend after black friday

They were $400 before a $100 instant rebate

and then it included a $100 mail in rebate on top of that.

I knew they were made by A-tech so I did some browsing and found out they are also named A-tech Finalspeed Eraser Kai


My FA5 lowered on Mugen springs with said MB Revolts:

https://image.ibb.co/iPxwQn/MBrevolt.jpg (https://ibb.co/c6skJ7)

[FaLKoN240]

I bought them back in November the weekend after black friday

They were $400 before a $100 instant rebate

and then it included a $100 mail in rebate on top of that.

My FA5 lowered on Mugen springs with said MB Revolts:


https://imgur.com/a/HJGqY

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[ZenkiKid]

Your image doesn't work.

My bad re-uploaded.

Theyre currently running the $100 Mail in rebate BTW

[turboshoebox]

Just cause its mb and cheap don't mean its the next of kin. Remember battles are cst wheels bought my mb

[SimpleSexy180]

My CST's
CST Hyper X limited in Chrome
18x9.5 +12
Probably only set in the country
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1816/HH8EO5.jpg

I Forget to remember those people wtf? :)

[LockOn!]

Wow, those Revolts look fucking awful.

The whole reason the Battle was cool is because it was really just a CST Hyper Zero. Basically the cheapest semi-JDM wheel you can get your hands on through Discount tire under MB. Not to mention the design is pretty universal, simple multi-spoke with mild concave.

I spoke with a Discount rep last week because I had been waiting for 18's the come back in stock.

Here's what I learned quoted from the YDIW thread-

I actually called Discount the other week about this.

Apparently the company that had the rights to that design was JD Co. and they supplied the wheels to Discount.

JD Co. recently was sold to TSW as of late last year, but they have yet to do anything with the molds.

The rep said we may see them again with TSW center caps fall of 2018, or we might never see them again.

I personally think it would be insane if they didn't keep producing these. They are basically treated as a consumable by the drift community and I imaging specific sizes sell very well.

Here's hoping...

So unless TSW brings it back, they gone.

[simmode1]

Ayeee.... If TSW brings them back that would be cool. TSW has some cool finishes I'd love to see on Battles.

[TheRealSy90]

Just cause its mb and cheap don't mean its the next of kin. Remember battles are cst wheels bought my mb


You mean, they got the mold or model from CST. They didn't source the actual wheels from CST.

[marveluz]

These remind me more of the other A-tech wheels but with recessed spokes
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180220/b318b0c96e33866ac5ff8a386d2a434a.jpg

But not bad for $97/ea

I wonder how long it would take for someone to pinstripe the recessed edges to match the side vents on their 3DStar kits. Lol

[FaLKoN240]

Just cause its mb and cheap don't mean its the next of kin. Remember battles are cst wheels bought my mb

Liking the design is irrelevant.

suc·ces·sor
səkˈsesər/Submit
noun
a person or thing that succeeds another.

These as a successor are exactly what it means. If they're discontinued and being produced in the same sizes.

[simmode1]

Sooo in other cheap bastard wheel news.. I don't know who XXRs got designing for them now, but looks like they're finally trying to get their shit together... Unless this is a rep of some wheel I don't recognize. Under $200ea for 18x9.5+20 & 18x10+20. $126ea if you preorder the NLMotoring exclusive all gloss black ones.
https://cdn3.volusion.com/5ehx2.gysj4/v/vspfiles/photos/565806698-3T.jpg?1509439403

[FaLKoN240]

Sooo in other cheap bastard wheel news.. I don't know who XXRs got designing for them now, but looks like they're finally trying to get their shit together... Unless this is a rep of some wheel I don't recognize. Under $200ea for 18x9.5+20 & 18x10+20. $126ea if you preorder the NLMotoring exclusive all gloss black ones.
https://cdn3.volusion.com/5ehx2.gysj4/v/vspfiles/photos/565806698-3T.jpg?1509439403

Lots of companies start out making shit products for cheap to get some capital together before becoming original and producing good parts. Might take a few years before the lose the synonymity with shit.

[hanzbrady]

That wheel looks like a Weld S71 and a Work Meister had a bastard child. I'm kind of into it.

[[240sx]]

I'm kind of into it.
Same ...it feels wierd.

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[jumpman2334]

they just need to drop the fake rivet crap. it looks so tackey and ive seen some fall out, which makes it even worse.


some pull them all out and just leave the holes. I remember seeing someone fill the holes in with bondo or something cause he didn't like the holes. LOL


while we are talking about XXR, any of you seen the forged wheel they have now? wonder if they are going to keep pushing into that territory. I mean their slogan has something to do with lightweight wheels. none of their cast wheels are 'lightweight'.

[simmode1]

Yeah, their forged 527Fs... Not my cup of tea, but also not the worst I've seen.

18x10+25 weighs 20.1lbs. Not bad. But it's $350/ea+ for some XXRs... I dunno about all that now...
https://cdn3.volusion.com/5ehx2.gysj4/v/vspfiles/photos/527F806603-2T.jpg?1469189608

They also got the 527D. No fake rivets there. Not forged, 24.3lbs. Not terrible for an 18.10.5 wheel.
https://cdn3.volusion.com/5ehx2.gysj4/v/vspfiles/photos/527D806611-2T.jpg?1477930362

[Future240]

I'm not a step lip person, but I could rock this in gold.

[jumpman2334]

They also got the 527D. No fake rivets there. Not forged, 24.3lbs. Not terrible for an 18.10.5 wheel.

interesting, that isn't all that bad for a cast wheel. they must have changed some of their mfg practices to lower the weight.


I think their forged stuff isn't popular because people are reluctant to spend that sort of coin on someone who is just gaining traction into the forged market. I think I would still rather buy some cast rays wheels over the forged XXR stuff (im biased as that is what I currently have). XXR has got to start somewhere though if they want to break into the forged market.


so, I gotta ask, does the forged wheel by XXR get to skirt around all the negative stuff associated with their other wheels because theyre forged? LOL

[simmode1]

interesting, that isn't all that bad for a cast wheel. they must have changed some of their mfg practices to lower the weight.

I think their forged stuff isn't popular because people are reluctant to spend that sort of coin on someone who is just gaining traction into the forged market. I think I would still rather buy some cast rays wheels over the forged XXR stuff (im biased as that is what I currently have). XXR has got to start somewhere though if they want to break into the forged market.

so, I gotta ask, does the forged wheel by XXR get to skirt around all the negative stuff associated with their other wheels because theyre forged? LOL
I dunno if they changed anything about their manufacturing process. It might just be the wheel design. I mean, it's derived from the older 527 wheel, which even though it wasn't forged was their lightest wheel by far. I think the 18x9.75 weighed 23.6lbs. So they just added .75 more width, changed the offset/backspacing to give it a big lip and BOOM, 24.3lbs wheel.

I also don't think they're skirting anything negative about their rep. Tons of JDM purists remain staunchly against them and offering a forged wheel ain't really changing their minds. But even if they do grow in popularity, it'll still be like looking at the success of once-trash brands like ISIS/ISR, Megan, CXRacing, ect.

[Future240]

. But even if they do grow in popularity, it'll still be like looking at the success of once-trash brands like ISIS/ISR, Megan, CXRacing, ect.


Are these brands no longer trash?

[simmode1]

I dunno. I don't use them. But they've their way onto some high profile builds, so I guess they've got a little notoriety now and are shaking off their past image.

[FaLKoN240]

I dunno. I don't use them. But they've their way onto some high profile builds, so I guess they've got a little notoriety now and are shaking off their past image.

Throwing product at a "sponsored" build does not increase legitimacy.

[240KA]

"legitimacy" is subject. these dumbass 16-20 year olds getting their first 240s and seeing their "role models" rocking these names, they're gonna associate that with quality. again there's power in advertising when you hear about it left and right.

although, megan and CXracing i'd NEEEEEVER touch, the ISR brand is in every gaw damn youtuber build, so after a while, it gets you thinking, "ehhh i might buy those suspension arms for my shitty s13."

[jumpman2334]

good point. ive seen a couple of VIP style builds recently with megan suspension arms and such and its always struck me as odd when you buy super expensive wheels/aero and go cheap on the suspension bits. i believe the owner of stance nation even uses megan stuff on his personal builds; which surprises me, given how much legit stuff they push/sell (like 326).

[FaLKoN240]

good point. ive seen a couple of VIP style builds recently with megan suspension arms and such and its always struck me as odd when you buy super expensive wheels/aero and go cheap on the suspension bits. i believe the owner of stance nation even uses megan stuff on his personal builds; which surprises me, given how much legit stuff they push/sell (like 326).

Back on topic

DTD is runnning a $75 off campaign right now. So you can get a full set of these ugly bois in 18" for less than 400 shipped

[TheRealSy90]

https://cdn3.volusion.com/5ehx2.gysj4/v/vspfiles/photos/565806698-3T.jpg?1509439403


Man these would be kind of hot if they got rid of the fake bolts! Killing themselves.




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[jumpman2334]

BATTLES ARE COMING BACK. (this quote is directly pulled from an Americas tire spokesman)

I found out last week that the following Battle SKU's should be available within the next couple months, albeit not in black.

18x9.5 5-114.3 ET+15 (gunmetal, bronze)
18x9.5 5-114.3 ET+23 (gunmetal)

17-inch sizes will be offered as well, but again only in bronze and gunmetal finishes.

[FaLKoN240]

BATTLES ARE COMING BACK. (this quote is directly pulled from an Americas tire spokesman)

Maybe I'll buy a pair to complete the set

[jumpman2334]

nice! im going to order a set for spares when my rays need to have their tires flipped. its always nice to have same spec wheels as backups (versus the sunk ass stock wheels that I can no longer use thanks to ARP extended studs).


ive always liked the battles when they are chromed/polished. maybe ill go that route. decisions decisions.

[simmode1]

BATTLES ARE COMING BACK. (this quote is directly pulled from an Americas tire spokesman)
Thank god. I can't imagine why someone would buy that whole brand line and choose to drop Battles. They're clearly the top seller.

[jumpman2334]

the two idiots trying to sell a set of 4 on ebay for 1k are gonna be pissed. LOLOLOL

[keidu]

back in stock. dont know the status of manufacturing: https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy-wheels/mb-wheels-battle/p/48676

[EDacIouSX]

wts 6 mb battles for $2k

[jumpman2334]

wts 6 mb battles for $2k

not sure if trolling or serious. these are available right now and discount tire is doing a memorial day rebate/special.

[afishysilvia]

not sure if trolling or serious. these are available right now and discount tire is doing a memorial day rebate/special.

Just ordered a full set :keke::keke:

[tlieberman240]

What's with companies replacing their wheels with ugly/ugiier wheels?

Like every Emotion series wheel Work makes now is worse than the one it replaced.

[keidu]

gonna order a spare as well

[Wookie384]

What's with companies replacing their wheels with ugly/ugiier wheels?

Like every Emotion series wheel Work makes now is worse than the one it replaced.

They're trying to keep up with car companies that are making uglier and uglier cars.

[TheRealSy90]

Soo, did battles come back?

[jdmgtom]

I had MB Battles on my 350z and I liked them. Paid $600 cash for them at the time w/ tires.

[jumpman2334]

Soo, did battles come back?

i was told mid 2018 by a discount tire rep that they are coming back. i saw a FS thread that was created 12/18 that stated he talked to someone at discount tire and said they arent comming back.

idk. maybe they did one final run and said F it. doesnt make sense as id be willing to bet its one of their most popular wheels. ill send a PM to a discount tire rep i have on another forum and report back.

[jumpman2334]

here is what i got back:
The MB Battle has been discontinued in most part numbers, but there are still active part numbers still in production.


i asked for clarification, but this is in line with post #52. they are only moving forward with certain sizes.

[simmode1]

here is what i got back:


i asked for clarification, but this is in line with post #52. they are only moving forward with certain sizes.
Oh. Well, those are the only sizes most care about any ways.

[jumpman2334]

yeah, im just not sure what the back and forth is. i believe discount tire is a pretty big company, so maybe not all the sales reps are up to date on their info.

edit:
rep got back to me:
My apologies for the confusion - I can see how that sentence is confusing!

Let me start over...

Before the MB Battle line was sold, the Battle was offered in over 15 sizes/finishes, or if you will, part numbers. The new manufacturer killed off the sizes that weren't high volume movers and is only producing the popular sizes and finishes.

As of right now, the 17x9 ET30 in bronze, 17x9.5 ET+15 in bronze, 18x8 ET30 in gunmetal and 18x8 ET+43 in matte black are currently available from the manufacturer. 5-114.3 applications only.

so it looks like they even killed off more sizes than what i was told was in post 52. bummer. no more 18x9.5. :(

[simmode1]

Oh wow. Who in the world wants 18x8 Battles, ffs? Smh

[TheRealSy90]

Wow they discontinued the most popular size lol.

[jumpman2334]

yeah that is what i told the rep and he said whoever owns the molds now has jumped around on sizing more than once. which would explain all of the contradicting info.

[FaLKoN240]

Stupid .

[driftsucky]

https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy-wheels/mb-wheels-battle/p/48679

If you type in MB BATTLES at DTD, a slew...well...a solid number of various wheels sizes/choices pop up and currently, they still have at least this 9.5. I didn't do a full check. But, I have to get dumb low to not look dumb to run them on my LS since my 240 is in the wind until I can find another.

[jumpman2334]

yes, we know how to search on their site. although it appears you have missed the 'on order' part found on all of the 9.5 width wheels (with the exception of the +38, but no one wants those, lol).