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tastyratz
10-14-2004, 07:04 AM
ok guys on my journey browsing the internet today look what i found
http://www.technotoytuning.com/t3_site_pages/products/wheel_adapters.html

they sell s13 wheel adaptors to do a 4-5 lug conversion. and its 300$ for all 4 wheels. I will accept sexual favors from your girlfriends as gratitude for my finding...

MakotoS13
10-14-2004, 07:17 AM
is using these a sound alternative to actually getting attain hubs?

gogeeta13
10-14-2004, 07:55 AM
are the studs replacable?

Seems like a steep price for such a bandaide fix/solution.

AKADriver
10-14-2004, 08:06 AM
Wheel adapters are as safe as running bolt on spacers... because that's exactly what they are.

You're kind of boned if you get them, though. The whole point of going 5-lug is getting a better choice of wide, deep dish wheels. With 32mm of spacer, a wide deep dish wheel will stick out cholo style. Your 17x9 +15s will become -17s. haha.

slydin240
10-14-2004, 09:07 AM
I would not suggest running adapters. I work at Player Wire Wheels and we sell alot of conversion adapters and they are junk. You have to bolt the adapter to the vehicle and then bolt the wheel to the adapter. Too many connections for something to go wrong. We have some that are cast and they actually can get hairline fractures in them. We also have some that are billet that are much better but the studs are pressed in and can not be replaced. Since I have been dealing with these adapters I would spend the money and do the hub conversion the right way and buy the proper hubs.

CONVERSION ADAPTERS :rl:

legin2
10-14-2004, 09:32 AM
I would not suggest running adapters. I work at Player Wire Wheels and we sell alot of conversion adapters and they are junk. You have to bolt the adapter to the vehicle and then bolt the wheel to the adapter. Too many connections for something to go wrong. We have some that are cast and they actually can get hairline fractures in them. We also have some that are billet that are much better but the studs are pressed in and can not be replaced. Since I have been dealing with these adapters I would spend the money and do the hub conversion the right way and buy the proper hubs.

CONVERSION ADAPTERS :rl:

I dissagree, I have alot of friends with these adapters and they have been using them for a while and they work fine. :bigok:

CoasTek240
10-14-2004, 09:45 AM
i wouldnt trust bolt on adapters... its just that much more you have to worry bout.

AutoRnD
10-14-2004, 10:25 AM
what sucks about adapters is that you cant get the deep lip that you normally want w/ the 5 lug conversion

mrmephistopheles
10-14-2004, 10:28 AM
:keke:
I remember a story told about a friend of mine who used JDM tyte wheel adapters on his 240... only to see one of his rear wheels roll past him in traffic one day. No hard driving or drifting, either!

tastyratz
10-14-2004, 10:40 AM
its true but these are billet and they look nice so I wouldnt be TOO worried about running them. This would be something thats probabbly ideal for people who wanna run overly positive offset 5 lug rims on their car and just have a decent offset on them as well. i just figured id let this out in the open because somebodys gotta have old rims kickin around or ones they want they just cant get in a low offset 4 lug...

nightwalker
10-14-2004, 10:48 AM
I've driven hard on billet adapters before and have had no problems. It's up to the person installing them to make sure they're on correctly. Hub centric helps too.

CoasTek240
10-14-2004, 11:05 AM
what sucks about adapters is that you cant get the deep lip that you normally want w/ the 5 lug conversion
well that, and you cant run true 5 lug z brakes... you gotta do the 4 lugger thing....ewwww :down:

HyperTek
10-14-2004, 11:38 AM
i would just need a pair for the front... 25mm doesnt sound too bad i guess...

wootwoot
10-14-2004, 12:16 PM
well for finding something that is ghetto how about for a sexual favor you can lick my ass?

SilviaDriver
10-14-2004, 02:17 PM
ok guys on my journey browsing the internet today look what i found
http://www.technotoytuning.com/t3_site_pages/products/wheel_adapters.html

they sell s13 wheel adaptors to do a 4-5 lug conversion. and its 300$ for all 4 wheels. I will accept sexual favors from your girlfriends as gratitude for my finding...

if u think these are new, you are wrong. these are old. wow 32mm! sucks. i will accept sexual favors form your gf for letting u know this.

MasterOFDrift
10-14-2004, 04:23 PM
forget about drifting with those adapters man, my friends 4 lug HUBs are dmg'ed from heavy drifting you think a "billet adapter" can handle that shiz i don't think so. IF you want to run the cheap alternative and watch your wheels roll off your car go for it. only thing i can see this useful for is .. . show yay go you!!! lol

Flybert
10-14-2004, 04:40 PM
forget about drifting with those adapters man, my friends 4 lug HUBs are dmg'ed from heavy drifting you think a "billet adapter" can handle that shiz i don't think so. IF you want to run the cheap alternative and watch your wheels roll off your car go for it. only thing i can see this useful for is .. . show yay go you!!! lol

How has your friend damaged his normal hubs drifting? That makes no sense.

I run 30mm non-hubcentric wheel spacers with Z32 wheels and go to track events, drift in the mountains, etc and have never had a problem. I know plenty of other people who have run bolt on spacers and have never had a problem. It's all about torqueing down your wheels to spec and checking them when you are in the pits at the track. The same can be said for running proper wheels on the hubs but it's less of a concern.

d r i f t swift
10-14-2004, 04:57 PM
for the people who are against these.. have you ever tried running them? seems like everyone is just going off of what people have said about them. ive been running a billet set for over 4 years on my car and havent had ANY PROBLEMS.

AutoRnD
10-14-2004, 05:11 PM
actually..
I HAVE THE SAME EXACT SPACERs..

From T3...
We bought them..
tried them...
didnt like them...
sold them...

And now bobbyboy has them...

One of the things that i dont like is the fact that for 4-5 lug you have to cut one of your stock studs.. also.. another problem was that the holes for the stock lugs were too small and i was not able to tq the supplied bolts down past 50 lb ft before it started stripping.. and since this is a car for drift.. i wasnt very settled with that.

240Stilo
10-14-2004, 05:19 PM
I run spacers. Don't like'em. One more variable to the shit that can go wrong equation. I've had the studs come loose which then almost made my wheel fall off on the freeway. Had to take them back to the shop and have them weld the studs to the spacer. No problems since then. Just retorqing every now and then and they've been fine. Still gonna go with OEM 5 lug conversion, but that's just cuz I want wheels wider than 8."

Zemus
10-14-2004, 06:44 PM
10mm bolt ons, 250 a pair, but hey, you can run alot better wheels.

http://jspec.com/gto45spacer.html

MakotoS13
10-14-2004, 07:11 PM
no thanks, i'd spend three times that in a heartbeat for the peace of mind that new hubs provide.

Flybert
10-14-2004, 07:24 PM
Funny how all you guys are trying to go five lug for cheap by buying these spacers. If you threw down a little extra, you could get used OEM hubs. I went 5 lug for my S13 including new S14 balljoints from PDM, z32 rear ebrake assembly and rear rotors for around $350 but that's because I shop around. And if you counted the extra set of rear hubs that I bought just to sell, I did it for around $300. If you wanna be a cheap 240 owner and have cool shit, you gotta be smart and jump on good deals when you find them.

wylin
10-14-2004, 08:49 PM
:keke:
I remember a story told about a friend of mine who used JDM tyte wheel adapters on his 240... only to see one of his rear wheels roll past him in traffic one day. No hard driving or drifting, either!

could it be one of the owners of a zilvia.net advertiser shop... =X

projectRDM
10-14-2004, 09:56 PM
its true but these are billet and they look nice so I wouldnt be TOO worried about running them...

I could build a set out of cardboard that 'look' nice, what does that have to do with it?

"Hey mang, you better torque those adapters, they might fall off."

"Naw, have you seen them, they look really nice. They'll be fine."

MakotoS13
10-14-2004, 10:02 PM
why the hell do people cheap out when it comes to the four things that connect you to the road?

freakin pathetic.

AKADriver
10-14-2004, 10:02 PM
Funny how all you guys are trying to go five lug for cheap by buying these spacers.

Heh, I don't think anyone but the original poster has actually expressed interest in buying these. I wouldn't, but I have no need for spacers or 5-lugs for that matter.

wootwoot
10-14-2004, 10:04 PM
im still waiting for my ass licking damnit

HyperTek
10-15-2004, 01:15 AM
i been thinking about it.. its the same thing as bolt on spacers... Alot of cars in option mags rock em, as well as majority of the D1 cars. Im sure with maintanence they would be good. Im just interested in maybe a set for the front since i have a z32 rear in my possesion.

phrozen
10-15-2004, 01:20 AM
id rather spend like 200-300 more for 5lug and get that extra 25mm and put it towards wheels with a nice lip

d r i f t swift
10-15-2004, 01:59 AM
well maybe you guys just got some cheap ones? haha i dont know..and the ones i have ARENT 4 < 5 lug i just got some bolt on spacers that keep my car 4 lug.

tastyratz
10-15-2004, 07:22 AM
Hey Im not gonna run them i got some 4 lug dt05s comin... I just figured i'd present the alternative to people because ive never really read any posts on them and figured someone might appreciate me finding them. I think they would be fine given a set purpose for some.... btw no ass lickings I know I broke your heart but I dont think it would work out there sunshine. :keke:

MakotoS13
10-15-2004, 09:46 AM
using spacers is in no way the same as using these bolt on adapters. a spacer is just like using a washer. if its hub centric it would in no way compromise structural integrity of the hub assembly.

however, these adapters tell the KISS (keep it simpple stupid) philosophuy to go to hell thereby dooming them to a life of showcar duty.

AKADriver
10-15-2004, 10:12 AM
using spacers is in no way the same as using these bolt on adapters. a spacer is just like using a washer.

Unless it's a bolt-on spacer, like the one on the upper left here:
http://www.autopower.no/hr/hr_spacer.gif

bolt-on spacers and bolt pattern adapters work the same way.

MakotoS13
10-15-2004, 10:29 AM
the point is that you're opening the door for twice the stuff to go wrong at the fvery LEAST. then there's the question of structural integrity and the added flex in the drivetrain. i mean, just cause it's bolted up doesn't mean there isn't stress and flex with the new additions.

no thanx

RBS14
10-15-2004, 11:35 AM
Gabe, the owner of T3 is an arrogant IDIOT of epic porportions!!!!! PLEASE, DO NOT BUY PARTS FROM HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh yea, did I mention he's a fucking tool?

AutoRnD
10-15-2004, 12:49 PM
what happened rbs14.. care to explain?

kuruptR
10-15-2004, 08:12 PM
I purchased the the hubs from technotoytuning.com
I got there prototype for the 25MM spacer conversion!!! call them and ask them for the 25 MM, 35 MM is way to large...

took them 2 weeks to send it out was worth the wait...

I had them for a year, sold them now to get bigger wheels.

Pro's - arnt weak ass like the rest of the bolt on spacers, will not brake under hard driving... the 2 peice ones can fail. these are 1 peice. bolted on like a wheel.

- Make every wheel clear Big Brakes!! this is a++ for drifters/drivers who have lots of sets of wheels...most wheels dont clear big brakes... they will with these.

-Easy to install. Easy to remove. you get selection from both 4 lug and 5 lug wheels

Con's
- Requires cutting a stud in half. (not good when you want to sell the conversion)
- Dont get nice big dishes on crazy off set.

heres a pic of the spacers on my car with
Z32 wheels TT offset.
http://members.shaw.ca/thekurupt/Internet/101_0138.JPG

Inland180
10-18-2004, 03:03 AM
true. comlete oem 5 lug should only come out to about $300 all around $350 at the most if you shop around. go to junk yards or dismantlers. youll find some

nightwalker
10-18-2004, 03:14 AM
I'd like to hear what RBS14 has to say about T3.

You can't go around spouting shit like that and not back it up.

d r i f t swift
10-18-2004, 03:37 AM
same here ..

Redtop_240
10-18-2004, 07:56 AM
I too am curious as to why that was spouted out there....

MakotoS13
10-18-2004, 11:55 AM
so it's unanimous? spill it RBS14.

RBS14
10-18-2004, 12:14 PM
I've just got personal beef with him. We go to track events and he does whatever he wants, without regard to rules and what others have asked of him. He's got a huge attitude and is generally arrogant. I can't speak for the quality of his parts, just his personality, or lack there of. I just don't want an asshole like him making $$ off of 240 people, when there are so many good shops with nice people running them. There is no reason to buy parts from him, he's not making any parts that aren't already made for our cars. And the parts he makes that others don't, such as these hub adapters, are an ass backwards ghetto man's way of doing it.

One of the main reasons I hate him is because he is the kind of person who is getting drifting a bad name at race tracks throughout california, and screwing the rest of us. We were at buttonwillow for a private event. The track manager talks to the entire group of us and says he's seriously thinking about not letting drifting events back there for good because of track damage, due to coming back on track under power. I'm flagging and I see Gabe out there sucking as usual. Because of his sucking, he's going off track, but instead of shutting it down until he's back on pavement, he's coming back on track under full throttle. this is the exact thing the track manager told us not to do. In the course of 20 mins I flagged him in 3 times for this and got an arrogant attitude and "oh it's just one wheel, it's not that bad, chill out" responses ever time. He thinks he's above everyone and I detest that attitude.

future240owner
02-15-2005, 07:13 PM
10mm bolt ons, 250 a pair, but hey, you can run alot better wheels.

http://jspec.com/gto45spacer.html

I know this is an old thread but with these 4 to 5 lug spacers wouldn't the stock studs stick out of them??? I'm interested in these but won't bother if this is the case. I already have wheels and looking for other alternatives other than switching out the hubs. My wheels specs are: 17x8 f/17x9 r +35 on all 4.