standard to power doors

[oo0speed0oo]

Has anyone attempted to change there standard doors to power? Is it possible?

[projectRDM]

Simple.

Buy the regulator/motor, the door latch, and the harness, put it all in, then run ~6 wires across the dash, 4 will go to the other door. Wire in relays for the locks and power to the windows.

[oo0speed0oo]

i actually found power doors. I just thought I could just changed the doors and rewire them.

[rainier]

u can do that but itd be cheaper to buy the motor and install them urself

[myleftlung]

What about manual locks/windows to power? My old chassis was power everything, but my new chassis is manual and it is somewhat of a PITA having to reach over. I thought it would be easy having all the parts, but the people I've spoken to about it say it's not worth it, that even someone w/the proper wiring knowledge would take at least two days.

[oo0speed0oo]

I already got the doors for 30 bucks and the harness, thats why i'm asking

[upSLIDEdown]

Searching for info for this swap (I have manual doors on my car and got some power doors cheap) I've been told that the car is prewired for it whether it has power accessories or not. Just wondered if you ever did the swap and what all had to be done...

Thanks in advance,
Bryan

[DJPimpFlex]

what about the other direction, power windows to manual windows. What do I need?

[projectRDM]

what about the other direction, power windows to manual windows. What do I need?

You can't be serious.

[upSLIDEdown]

bump~~~ anyone got any input on this?

Bryan

[projectRDM]

bump~~~ anyone got any input on this?

Bryan

Car is not prewired. Like I posted above, run wires across the dash for power and signal, add relays for the locks. Look at an FSM for 3 minutes and you'll figure it out. Cake.

[oo0speed0oo]

did anyone ever get this done?

[projectRDM]

Hundreds of people have done it. If you can't follow my instructions above then you shouldn't even be attempting it.

[SilviaDriver]

damn Russ has said what to do about 3x already and nobody is listening. if you cant even read his post and follow something so simple. pickup car models as a hobby.

did all ya'll fail reading comprehension or something?

[drift freaq]

Has anyone attempted to change there standard doors to power? Is it possible?
I am about to do it on a car. Also contrary to what has been said above the factory harness does have the plugs in place for all the power accessories. you need to get the door sub harnesses to plug them in though. I suspect this is true, because in many of the cars I have done stuff to, I have seen the plug for the hicas and overdrive lights on cars that did not have either.
Why do I know this ?I have done many 5 speed swaps and owned more than one Hicas car. I strongly suspect Nissan would not make more than one chassis harness for the cars. They have a habit of making a lot of things universal. Thats why you see the outlines for the clutch master and guides for the studs in automatic cars.

[projectRDM]

While I appreciate your enthusiasm, you're wrong.

I've gutted and cut up over two dozen 240s in my life and have kept all the harnesses for some time until cutting them apart to use for projects or selling them. Some harnesses do include various optional plugs, but in the case of the S13 base models there are no provisions for power window/locks, just like a non-HICAS car is not wired for the HICAS module or ABS actuator. You also won't find any cruise control wiring on a base model.

For further example, there are eight different dash harness options in the S14, twelve different underhood harnesses, six different subharnesses, and three different tail harnesses, all dependant on year and trim. There's eight different engine harnesses as well, and there's even two roof harnesses, with sunroof and without.

What makes the S13 harder to mess with is Nissan did not use the later harness designs found in 95-up cars, so the body harness is one piece from the passenger side dash all the way through the car and back around the to the passenger quarter panel. This makes harness replacement a nightmare whereas in an S14 there's three separate harnesses inside the car.

[thejester03]

"You also won't find any cruise control wiring on a base model."

Wrongo my friend. My S13 base model has everything but the controls for the cruise. It even has the actuator under the hood. 240's are notorious for having a 1,001 different ways of doing things, like some have the window controls on the doors, others are in the center console.

[projectRDM]

"You also won't find any cruise control wiring on a base model."

Wrongo my friend. My S13 base model has everything but the controls for the cruise. It even has the actuator under the hood. 240's are notorious for having a 1,001 different ways of doing things, like some have the window controls on the doors, others are in the center console.

You bought a car with cruise already on it if the actuator is under the hood. Someone just swapped wheels before you bought it. Strike one.
And the window switches in the console are only on convertibles for the rear quarters. Strike two.

[Indolent]

someone wanna give/sell me their passenger side manual window set up for dirt cheap lol here in so cal, my passenger window went out lol

[EricPE]

yes it's possible, I have done it. DEI actuators.

[publicenemy137]

What I did was I just bought a Viper alarm system with keyless entry. They will install actuators @ wherever you get it installed and then you will have keyless entry! Don't even have a lock/unlock switch, just on your controller.

[projectRDM]

S13s don't have a switch either, the OE lock setup is powered by the actuator rod.

[oo0speed0oo]

R240NA, do you have harnesses left I could buy off you?

[projectRDM]

R240NA, do you have harnesses left I could buy off you?

In fact I think I do. Let me check later today when I go by the shop. Did you need anything else, like the regulator, motor, door lock, etc.?

Email me if you do, I'll be leaving in about an hour. [email protected]

[oo0speed0oo]

well honestly i need everything to make these things work, let me know how much its going to run me.

[SR20Inside]

So where abouts would one find the plug to power the window switch etc..?

[projectRDM]

So where abouts would one find the plug to power the window switch etc..?

BUY THE POWER DOOR HARNESS

How many times do I have to write it?

[420sx]

^^^ can you write it one more time? please? i wanna see it again, its so cool

[Slick Sileighty]

Ignition relays are different between power and nonpower cars (so you will want the power relay), also a power car will have an additional circuit breaker. The relay and circuit breaker and located on the back side of the interior fuse block.

The dash harness on a nonpower car is the same as a power car...other than the wires are not ran to the plugs. EXAMPLE would be that the power car would use all six pins in a 6 pin plug vs the non power car will use only 2.

enjoy

[Broaner]

I'll trade my power stuff+$20 for someone's hand crank stuff.

[2iv0 sx]

what would be the total cost for the whole swap? manuel to power...

I NEED POWER!

[Slick Sileighty]

******I POSTED THIS ON 240SXFORUMS.COM******

It is possible, it is very time consuming to do cleanly. I did the swap on a 89, but I had the luxury of having a wrecked parts car. The door harnesses are different from year to year, I do not know what the differences are, but Nissan does give different part numbers.

You will need to get from the power car

1. door solenoids (located inside the door, below the latch)

2. Door wiring harnesses

3. Door lock timer (located behind the ECU. It is a back box that has 1 harness
coming out of it. The end
of the harness has a blue 6-pin plug)

4. Door regulator assemblies and roll up mechanisms (grab the black box too in the
drivers door right about
where your elbow rests)

5. Ignition relay and circuit breaker (these are attached to the back side of the
interior fuse block. The ignition relay is the top on, I think it is blue vs brown on non power cars. Power cars
will have two circuit breakers, nonpower will have only one. They sit right below
the ignition relay, they are black, grab the second one down).

6. It is best to pull the dash out of the power car to see the dash wiring harness.
The door harness will have 2 plugs connecting to the dash harness on the drivers
side connecting to the dash harness and 3 on the passenger. If you what a nice
clean conversion grab the BLUE plugs from the dash harness (one on the drivers
side and 3 on the passengers side. I pulled all the wires out of the dash harness
to make it very clean, meaning I didn’t cut the wires).

**Side note: You can remove the connections from the plugs with out damaging them. Your will have to pop off the back on the plug. then looking from the connection side you can see a small clip (inside the plug) that is holding the connector tight, there are special tools for this (and will make it easier), but you can use a paper clip, pick or a small flat headed screwdriver.** Ok back to the dash Harness

The nonpower car will not have the blue plugs in the dash harness. The white plug (one one each side, I think they are a 12 pin) are the same plug on the power car vs. the non power car...but the non power car will not be using all of the pin locations, of course the power car will.

At this point get a FSM and start studying the wiring diagrams. It took me about 20-25 hours to do the swap (this included the power mirrors). But this was making the wiring look like it was completely factory. A ton of time could be saved if the plugs were cut and everything was soldered or butt connected.

I hope this helps a little

Late
-Jason

[projectRDM]

I'll send you beer for that writeup. I thought my attempts were clear before but people are too fucking stupid to read and understand basic wording. You have cleared it up well and set it straight. I can only hope these idiots can follow it now.

[SR20Inside]

BUY THE POWER DOOR HARNESS

How many times do I have to write it?

I am not a dumbass... no shit you have to buy the door harness but I am trying tofigure out where it plugs in smart guy.

:mrmeph:

[projectRDM]

I am not a dumbass... no shit you have to buy the door harness but I am trying tofigure out where it plugs in smart guy.

:mrmeph:

And again, you can't read. It doesn't plug in to the car anywhere. Why? It's not wired for it. Smart guy. You have to add that part of the harness.

[SR20Inside]

And again, you can't read. It doesn't plug in to the car anywhere. Why? It's not wired for it. Smart guy. You have to add that part of the harness.

Well now I know that seeing how someone posted the instructions on how it is done. You never clarified that in any of your posts.