Rare! 96 Zenki SE Hardtop 5-speed 35k original miles!

[TriniTT]

Will create new thread

[feito]

unbelievable, this thing is nuts.
I think you're gonna need a little more info though, such as number of previous drivers, or if you're the OO, vin number, and just more details.
Hardtop, factory standard, and untouched, this is what dreams are made of xD

[TriniTT]

unbelievable, this thing is nuts.
I think you're gonna need a little more info though, such as number of previous drivers, or if you're the OO, vin number, and just more details.
Hardtop, factory standard, and untouched, this is what dreams are made of xD

I think I was fairly detailed for a car with so little history. I'm obviously not the original owner, I wouldn't expect anybody to even consider buying a car like this without first looking over my history of vehicle sales in this group. I'm not sure what "just more details" means. There's not much else to say about a vehicle with 35k miles. But I'm happy to answer any questions for interested parties.

[95_S14]

Drop some uk headlights and be done ......

[lunchmeat]

This is unicorn status and the want hurts.
Glws man.

[68whiskey]

Its amazing how you got roasted in the FB groups for this but then everyone here is more understanding

[exitspeed]

This is great. One of the lowest mileage 250's out there.

My good friend has a 35k Peale white SE S14 in a garage. He's never selling it.

It's awesome to know there are still some very low mileage ones out there.

[d_nice]

Car is very clean. good luck with sale

[TheRealSy90]

Good lord that's nice. Also non-abs is like a cherry on top.


I've never seen that intake setup either, unique for sure.

[TriniTT]

Its amazing how you got roasted in the FB groups for this but then everyone here is more understanding


I've never sold a car on Facebook. In fact, I rarely sell anything via Facebook despite listing every car and part I have for sale there. It's pretty much a dead end trail that exists for trolls and haters to post memes and criticisms to express their disappointment with being unable to afford nice things.

[lunchmeat]

Dead end for buyers too. I've been trying to get a set of door panels, and flaky doesn't even begin to describe the guy who has a set listed. What makes it worse is he's 10 minutes down the road.

[s1421]

Dam super clean!!! Hope it goes to someone that will take care of it.

[TriniTT]

Dead end for buyers too. I've been trying to get a set of door panels, and flaky doesn't even begin to describe the guy who has a set listed. What makes it worse is he's 10 minutes down the road.

Yeah it's difficult to even buy things nowadays too, I agree. I have had great success selling on zilvia though, this is the place people come who are looking for a classy chassis.

What's wild is that people seem bent on telling others what something is worth, as if economics demands their opinions. I could see if someone was selling a stock ka auto trans for a thousand bucks, sure flame away. But something like this where there is virtually nothing else to compare it to, let the market decide. It always does and so far I've always sold my cars for what I want for them.

[Toomuchboost12]

Mint s14 . my kouki is Hardtop SE also . . hope the new owner preserves her like it should be . i never seen a 96 that clean .

[exitspeed]

But something like this where there is virtually nothing else to compare it to, let the market decide.

There is, it's just not for sale. ;)

[2_Liter_Turbo]

Very Nice! I waited forever to find an S14 SE w/ no sunroof or ABS. They are really hard to find. I may have paid a lot less, but mine also has crappy paint and had 145k miles when I bought it, lol. GLWS!

[rawgarage]

Sheesh Barrett Jackson in 5 years

[TriniTT]

Sheesh Barrett Jackson in 5 years



It'll get listed on BaT soon enough, although I've already received a lot of interest so it may sell quickly.


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[240sex_s14]

man, that color is so nice! minty as hell! if I had the money I would... then drop a LS in it hahaah.


It just needs glass headlights!! just imo...




GLWS!!

[suprafreak1000]

Jesus this is intense.

Glws, kouki's been treating me well :rawk:

[TriniTT]

Jesus this is intense.



Glws, kouki's been treating me well :rawk:



Thanks man! I'm glad you're enjoying it :)


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[lunchmeat]

Yeah it's difficult to even buy things nowadays too, I agree. I have had great success selling on zilvia though, this is the place people come who are looking for a classy chassis.

What's wild is that people seem bent on telling others what something is worth, as if economics demands their opinions. I could see if someone was selling a stock ka auto trans for a thousand bucks, sure flame away. But something like this where there is virtually nothing else to compare it to, let the market decide. It always does and so far I've always sold my cars for what I want for them.
Just means they're broke. I paid your asking price for a 97 se, with the same mileage....16 years ago. Paid 6k for a 97 auto with 200k miles last year(slim pickings around here). The demand for these cars is insane, but I'd pay top dollar on something like this.

[Kfx]

Damn why would you be selling this beautiful car? It's so rare, in a few years it will probably be worth much more

[haulksmash]

i bought a 97 kouki with 91k miles for 10k (i know i got taxed) but this is worth every penny for 11k.

[TriniTT]

Thanks for the compliments, I've had a lot of interest but it's currently still available!

[TriniTT]

This weekend I'm posting it up on bring a trailer if I don't have any serious buyers lined up. With as many compliments as I've received, I have a dozen trolls messaging me with an array of insults and threats. It's a shame the 240sx community generally can't appreciate when an example has been this well-preserved, but one that's been bastardized beyond recognition receives full accolades.

[JDMS1lv1a]

This is an amazing example. I think is worth every penny of your asking price. Id be scared to modify it

[240sex_s14]

This weekend I'm posting it up on being a trailer if I don't have any serious buyers lined up. With as many compliments as I've received, I have a dozen trolls messaging me with an array of insults and threats. It's a shame the 240sx community generally can't appreciate when an example has been this well-preserved, but one that's been bastardized beyond recognition receives full accolades.



ehh ignore them window shoppers. They want 40's that been modified and have electrical issues... those are called posers tbh.... wannabe's drifters and most likely come from the Honda scene.


free bump for a beautiful car. Hope this gets sold for your asking price. I honestly would swap rims, steering wheel, turbo the ka, last glass headlights. DONE!

[dcjodon]

Wow...... I'd build a Nissan museum around this car. If you're able to hold on to it for a few more years it'll be worth it. S14 numbers are rapidly declining.

[skylinekin]

Was this car an auto originally? I see an auto shifter in the 4th picture but the other interior pictures show manual? What are all the spots on the drivers seat, Has it been smoked in? All original body panels?

[feito]

^damn good eye on that shifter! Although, i dont think he ever said it was a factory 5spd. Good detail to point out though.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j341/andres14oj/93C09E64-4493-4B7C-83F7-B0D9838AC561_zpsur3zpebq.jpg (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/andres14oj/media/93C09E64-4493-4B7C-83F7-B0D9838AC561_zpsur3zpebq.jpg.html)

[TriniTT]

Was this car an auto originally? I see an auto shifter in the 4th picture but the other interior pictures show manual? What are all the spots on the drivers seat, Has it been smoked in? All original body panels?



It was originally an auto, the manual conversion was done on a professional level . The body is all original including paint. I couldn't tell you if it's been smoked in but it doesn't offer indication that it was. Not sure what the spots in the seats are either, they appear to be areas where stains were removed or something of the sort.

[TriniTT]

Car is now listed on BaT

[feito]

does it only crank while the clutch is pressed?

[Mr Miyagi]

Caring about low miles on a 240. Y'all are nuts. :tweak:

[dcjodon]

Caring about low miles on a 240. Y'all are nuts. :tweak:

Dude you can't find these cars anymore if you tried.

[TriniTT]

Auction ends today!

[dcjodon]

ICYMI, the seller may or may not have been screwed on this car. I can't really tell.
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1996-nissan-240sx/#listing-bid

[TriniTT]

I was totally screwed. And to top it all off, BaT has censored me from leaving anymore comments and they're claiming I'm unhappy for the car meeting reserve. What they aren't doing is being honest, providing any phone numbers or emailing pertinent info. The info in the auction comments contradicts what their emails say. They claim I'm unhappy because they are meeting the reserve but what I'm upset about is them expecting me to release the vehicle without receiving payment, and the fact that the reserve I requested was argued with in lieu of their version. It's a big mess but one thing is for certain: never do business with this company if you expect a fair outcome as a seller.


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[RalliartRsX]

It seems the seller made a mistake on the terms and conditions of the sale. From what I am reading, he checked the boxes as determined by BAT for the terms and conditions, which is binding. The seller (seemingly) assumed the car would sell for much more than the reserve he agreed upon (or seemingly agreed to). In addition, BAT has a clause that they will make up the difference if the reserve is not met (not entirely sure what that amount is, but it seems both parties agreed to what the amount is). Either way, standing offer was higher than the reserve or what the car went for.

OP got pissed when both the reserve was not met (he had a higher standing offer and stated he put a higher reserve price, which in itself makes no sense as the seller had to agree to the reserve price before proceeding placing the car up for BAT auction) and when BAT and the seller could not come to an agreement as far as what the "difference" that would be made up by BAT would be (seller had one reserve in mind, the agreed up reserve between seller and BAT was different), things went south.

Either way, seller had to agree to terms before putting it on the auction and it is made very clear in their terms and agreement.

I think the seller wanted to milk it for more, but the market for $10+K 240s outside of the Zilvia crowd and flat brimmers is few and far between. As I said to a friend: two hits immediately against this car regardless of mileage
1) it is NOT original, all numbers matching manual car. It was originally an Auto, he did a auto-manual swap. So it is not a numbers matching car.
2) It's a 96 and the hated/dreaded OBD2 test hamstrings it's sale in 60% of the states it will be used it.

Either way, whatever it sent for over $7,450 for a 35K mile non-numbers matching 96 Zenki isn't terrible. If he had a higher standing offer, he should have just ended the auction and go with it (if he was able to that is).

You live and you learn I guess. Someone in Toronto is going to be a happy camper :)

Sorry Trini

[TriniTT]

See that's the problem: BaT is commenting like I'm upset about the fact that I didn't make as much money as I could have. The fact is, as I mentioned before, that they expect me to release the vehicle before they send their portion of the payment. That is not something there any seller should expect and certainly not something covered in their terms. I never took issue with my frustration with the fact that I could have made more money, I made it clear I was willing to proceed with the transaction as the buyer is well aware.

The biggest issue I've had in all this is BaT's refusal to clearly communicate. Multiple times they have said one thing and emails and then contradicted that with their comments on the sale post. For starters, and their emails they claimed the make whole clause was an option I selected, when in fact it was never presented as an option as they clearly evidenced in another comment. Had it been an option I never would have chosen that route. And again as I mentioned earlier, bring a trailer is known for their uncanny ability to argue with the sellers selected reserve. If they would simply allow a seller to select their reserve and stick with it, I'm sure a lot less people would end up selling their vehicles at a lower than desired price as in my case.

in the end, it's a 240SX and not a 1960s hot rod muscle car. Numbers matching is not a real consideration, and most people would prefer a car they know was not abused its whole life as is evidenced with the majority of my s-chassis sales over the years. And regardless of the opinion of what one person thinks it's worth, it doesn't really matter if the seller feels it's worth more. I should have the option to keep it if it doesn't fetch a desired price, and that's not really up for some random forum member to decide for me.

And as one of the comments mentioned, bring a trailer repeatedly claims that they are never a party to the transaction. If that's truly the case, from a legal standpoint, they have no right or legal standing to enforce there and make a whole clause as it does immediately make them a party to the transaction.


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[RalliartRsX]

Damn, my comment has disappeared.

Good discussion. TriniTT, do you have a copy of my post??

[rawgarage]

So did u release the car?

[TriniTT]

Damn, my comment has disappeared.

Good discussion. TriniTT, do you have a copy of my post??

Yep:

It seems the seller made a mistake on the terms and conditions of the sale. From what I am reading, he checked the boxes as determined by BAT for the terms and conditions, which is binding. The seller (seemingly) assumed the car would sell for much more than the reserve he agreed upon (or seemingly agreed to). In addition, BAT has a clause that they will make up the difference if the reserve is not met (not entirely sure what that amount is, but it seems both parties agreed to what the amount is). Either way, standing offer was higher than the reserve or what the car went for.

OP got pissed when both the reserve was not met (he had a higher standing offer and stated he put a higher reserve price, which in itself makes no sense as the seller had to agree to the reserve price before proceeding placing the car up for BAT auction) and when BAT and the seller could not come to an agreement as far as what the "difference" that would be made up by BAT would be (seller had one reserve in mind, the agreed up reserve between seller and BAT was different), things went south.

Either way, seller had to agree to terms before putting it on the auction and it is made very clear in their terms and agreement.

I think the seller wanted to milk it for more, but the market for $10+K 240s outside of the Zilvia crowd and flat brimmers is few and far between. As I said to a friend: two hits immediately against this car regardless of mileage
1) it is NOT original, all numbers matching manual car. It was originally an Auto, he did a auto-manual swap. So it is not a numbers matching car.
2) It's a 96 and the hated/dreaded OBD2 test hamstrings it's sale in 60% of the states it will be used it.

Either way, whatever it sent for over $7,450 for a 35K mile non-numbers matching 96 Zenki isn't terrible. If he had a higher standing offer, he should have just ended the auction and go with it (if he was able to that is).

You live and you learn I guess. Someone in Toronto is going to be a happy camper :)

[TriniTT]

So did u release the car?

Yes I accepted payment today. No hassle to the buyer, really no hassle to anybody but me.

[reflexdb]

Sorry to hear that this car didn't fetch a higher price at auction, but it's good to hear that you went through with the sale TriniTT. That seems to be the most fair outcome. BAT is certainly a different place when it comes to buying and selling cars. I personally like the fact that BAT can choose if they want to make up the difference between the highest bid and the reserve if the car doesn't meet the reserve. Honestly though, I think they should just show the reserve instead of making it a big secret.


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[exitspeed]

I think the seller wanted to milk it for more, but the market for $10+K 240s outside of the Zilvia crowd and flat brimmers is few and far between. As I said to a friend: two hits immediately against this car regardless of mileage
1) it is NOT original, all numbers matching manual car. It was originally an Auto, he did a auto-manual swap. So it is not a numbers matching car.
2) It's a 96 and the hated/dreaded OBD2 test hamstrings it's sale in 60% of the states it will be used it.
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Makes me feel like my friends 30k REAL All ORIGINAL 5 speed SE would fetch a good amount (especially being in a more desirable color combo White/Black Int). Interesting to see how this all shook out.

[dizzariot]

White is the most desirable color? I'm pretty sure OPs care is the 'best' zenki color. I would've paid more for that car had I been in the US.