View Full Version : Gauging interest on a V-Mount setup and some other performance parts
VisionRx7
10-08-2004, 01:03 AM
Ok, I am just gauging some interest here on a V-Mount Intercooler/Radiator setup that I am developing. It should be enough to handle 400-550 hp depending on what size intercooler core I decide to go with. The kit will come with everything needed to install, but you will need to have a vented hood. I was also thinking about making an oil cooler setup that will sit where the stock intercooler sat. Last thing would be a hard metal intake kit. Most kits just add a filter onto the stock rubber tubing, but I made a polished metal one for my car, and figured that people on here may be interested in it. I would be selling these products for way less than what big name companies do. BTW, these would be for the s13/180sx (89-94 240sx).
Thanks,
Jesse Parker
psidriven
10-08-2004, 01:41 AM
count me in as an interested party. just provide the details as you get them.
thanks in advance.
TheTimanator
10-08-2004, 06:41 AM
Last thing would be a hard metal intake kit. Most kits just add a filter onto the stock rubber tubing, but I made a polished metal one for my car, and figured that people on here may be interested in it.
I would like one of those as long as it retains all the stock nipples/inlets or whatever. Also, I'd prefer a ceramic coating if possible. And so would these guys:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=55403&page=2&pp=30&highlight=hard+intake+pipe
rrobe99999
10-08-2004, 07:22 AM
I would like one of those as long as it retains all the stock nipples/inlets or whatever. Also, I'd prefer a ceramic coating if possible. And so would these guys:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=55403&page=2&pp=30&highlight=hard+intake+pipe
I've found an S13 intake pipe online (I assume we're talking about SR20DET). I think it was GReddy or Cusco. It was blue. But I can't find an S14 intake pipe. I would definitely buy one for S14. I prefer no nipples since I run BOV and breather filter on valve cover. That would be easier for you to build also. People who want nipples could easily tap them in themselves or you could sell 2 versions.
Good luck with the V-mount kit. It sounds doable as far as IC piping, but I think radiator setups would vary, and hoses from a kit may not work.
240trainee
10-08-2004, 09:07 AM
By all means go for it, would be a nice option for those looking for something different.
sykikchimp
10-08-2004, 09:10 AM
I'd also be seriously interested.
autobahNESSA
10-08-2004, 09:51 AM
A Vmount kit sounds good.
the hard intake pipe sounds good as long as it will have a tube to recirc a bov into. Ihate atmospheric.
VisionRx7
10-08-2004, 09:58 AM
great! I will be heading to my garage today to make a mock-up v-mount, just to take some measurments.
I would be able to make 2 versions of the intake, one with the nipples and one without. I will get some pics of the one on my car pretty soon (Mine doesn't have the nipples).
VisionRx7
10-08-2004, 10:08 AM
I've found an S13 intake pipe online (I assume we're talking about SR20DET). I think it was GReddy or Cusco. It was blue. But I can't find an S14 intake pipe. I would definitely buy one for S14.
I don't have a s14 /w a SR20DET to make a test one for. I will ask around to see if I can find one in the pittsburgh area.
ThatGuy
10-08-2004, 10:14 AM
Add me to the interested list. I've been considering going V-Mount for a while now, when I do my sawp. If you can produce a kit, it would be that much easier. Now for a couple questions. 1.) How much cutting do you think it will require? 2.) What price range are you expecting?
Thanks
-Barry
sideviewcivic
10-08-2004, 01:47 PM
I would be very interested in this setup. Especially if you hav a setup to use OEM or aftermarket radiators. Working with a mock up diffuser behind the radiator and intercooler to aide with forcing moving air through the top of the vented hood.
VisionRx7
10-09-2004, 01:04 AM
I was working on a mock up vmount today. The things that need to be cut/removed are the 3 braces that go from the rad support to the metal support below. The two on the sides will need to be removed, then cut so the long part that goes from the top to the bottom is removed. Then it can still be used as a bracket for the upper part of the bumper, because they were the only two mounts up top for the bumper. It took a total of like 10-15 mins to remove them, cut them, paint them to seal up the cuts so it won't rust, and reinstall them. The center support bar needs to be removed. It runs from under the hood latch to the bottom. After removing/cutting them, the rad support didn't seem to lose any of it's strength. I fitted my card board mock up vmount. Now I have to order the intercooler core and rad to make the working prototype and do some testing with the air temps. I think I will be going with a koyo rad and rework the mounting brackets, but I'm not sure on that yet.
ThatGuy
10-09-2004, 08:27 AM
We need pictures! :D
I am very interested too... :D
mjjstang
10-09-2004, 12:54 PM
I just bought a hard intake from enjuku, was nice but for it to work I had to cut off 1 inch of each end,( which meant the flares or what ever its called, were taken off, but the couplings should still hold fine) and then it still barely fits, and it doesnt have a plug for recirc, still a nice looking kit though, would have also been nice to include a bracket to mount to the chassis to keep it more in place.
VisionRx7
10-09-2004, 01:42 PM
I just bought a hard intake from enjuku, was nice but for it to work I had to cut off 1 inch of each end,( which meant the flares or what ever its called, were taken off, but the couplings should still hold fine) and then it still barely fits, and it doesnt have a plug for recirc, still a nice looking kit though, would have also been nice to include a bracket to mount to the chassis to keep it more in place.
It should be fine with the flares cut off, because there isn't a lot of pressure going through there. The intercooler kit that I made for my rx7 didn't have flares either, and it never came apart at 15 psi (I was using t-bolt clamps though). BTW the vmount and intake kits will come with all the silicon couplers and t-bolt clamps that are needed.
wow this sounds like a very cool idea! i think a good thing might be if you worked w/ a couple different radiator/intercooler setups and made just the brackets, since alot of guys will already have upgraded radiators and FMIC kits...
*as i understand you want to supply radiators and intercoolers with the kits*
TheTimanator
10-09-2004, 10:20 PM
I just bought a hard intake from enjuku, was nice but for it to work I had to cut off 1 inch of each end,( which meant the flares or what ever its called, were taken off, but the couplings should still hold fine) and then it still barely fits, and it doesnt have a plug for recirc, still a nice looking kit though, would have also been nice to include a bracket to mount to the chassis to keep it more in place.
saweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had no idea they came out with that! I wonder if I can get it without the filter... have to go by there next week, or call or something
mjjstang
10-10-2004, 09:40 AM
the pipe from them alone is like 89 bux i think.
s14turbosilvia
10-12-2004, 04:35 PM
also very very interested.
Steeles
10-12-2004, 10:46 PM
yeah I''d love to see the Vmount kit when you get it mocked up. question though. the TB placement. how are you going to make provisions for different combos of motors. say s14/15 motors in s13 chassis, S13 motors in S14 chassis. S13 motors with the greddy intake manifold or similar. just a couple things to keep in mind as they all change where the throttle body sit. I myself would definately be intrested in a good vmount kit. but I do have an S13 motor in a S14 chassis with a greddy intake manifold.
also different turbo placement. stock location style turbos and top mount setups need to be considered.
and just on a personal thought, since you mocked it up what are the possibilities of a ram air port on the intake side. i was thinking a cut out in the side ducting could open to a box housing a filter. pipe would route around AC and PS pumps and straight into the turbo.
RBS14
10-13-2004, 12:18 PM
make sure to flip the radiator upside down. simply pushing the front of the radiator forward isn't a good idea. the lower coolant hose outlet points straight down at the ground that way, and the hose would be way too close to the ground. As for the hood/headlight brackets, I just cut the bottom half of them off and welded in small plates that go from the bracket to the bumper support. works great. You are also going to need a long, narrow core, because you don't have much room left between the top of the radiator and the back of the radiator support. Remember to factor in the depth of electrical fans when placing the radiator. These are just a few things I did/found out when working on fabing up a v-mount for my car.
VisionRx7
11-05-2004, 03:17 PM
Alright, thanks for the input! I am building this on my car which is a s13 with a s13 red top and stock turbo. The different turbo combos would just need a different pipe running into the intercooler. As for TB, I've never seen the black tops in person, so I really don't know. I guess I could sell a more universal kit for people who want it, which would include the intercooler/rad setup, but leave the piping to the customer.
Yea, a ram air could work also. I will have to see how much room is left for the air box once I get this kit finished.
RBS14
11-05-2004, 05:27 PM
Ram air systems aren't all they're cracked up to be. I took some left over dryer ventilation tubing i had left over from my brake ducting project and ran it from a hole in my bumper up into the engine bay and pushed it up against my cone filter. I didn't gain any power, even on cold days. What it did do was make my engine run like shit whenever I would let it drop to idle at any speed over 35mph. I did it on the freeway at like 65mph, and it actually stalled my engine. My conclusion was that ram air systems are less than optimal, at least for my application. May be different for turbo, probably is, but on na, it's poopy.
sr240mike
11-05-2004, 10:29 PM
I had similar problems with my 300zx's intake. If you put a strip of duct tape on the intake facing where the air is coming from you can induce turbulence so the MAS registers the air correctly. I also did this on my sr to block some of the clutch fan air turbulence. It turns out with the exposed air filter and the fan going the mas readings would fluctuate while I was looking at it through conzult.
RBS14
11-05-2004, 11:13 PM
Interesting.
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