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RJF
10-02-2004, 08:26 AM
http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/

jsr20det
10-02-2004, 11:02 AM
Hahahahhahaha. All of a sudden, he doesnt seem too powerful.

SilviaNinja240
10-02-2004, 11:42 AM
uuuuuu *razzle dazzle* a bunch of sound clips taken out of context and edited together to confuse voters, creating a negative campaign ad. Too bad the only thing Bush can do is make smear campaign ads instead of tackling issues

ThatGuy
10-02-2004, 11:44 AM
Yeah SilniaNinja, it's a good thing nobody ever did something like that to Bush. *cough*Michael Moore*cough cough*. BTW, I highly doubt that "Ad" is actually supported by Bush, so your comment is worthless.

SilviaNinja240
10-02-2004, 12:06 PM
Well ThatGuy, I think anything that addresses Kerry in a negative perspective is supported by Bush, so YOUR comment is worthless. nee nuur nee nuur :p

ThatGuy
10-02-2004, 01:15 PM
Ok, so it could possibly be supported by him. But he didn't make it as your comment suggest. nyah nyah nananyah. We're both worthless! lol

dunno
10-02-2004, 01:27 PM
It's rather hard to take any of those quotes out of context unless in reality they were all followed by, "my last statement was a complete lie and I believe none of it."

-Matt

MakotoS13
10-02-2004, 01:30 PM
perfect compilation of contradictary statements.

effing liar.

Sanchi
10-02-2004, 06:16 PM
perfect compilation of contradictary statements.

effing liar.


Are you seriously calling Kerry a liar... Bush is a liar, they are all liar's, what's the point in calling a politician a liar??? Thanks for the hint mister "MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS" ..

MakotoS13
10-02-2004, 06:24 PM
Are you seriously calling Kerry a liar... Bush is a liar, they are all liar's, what's the point in calling a politician a liar??? Thanks for the hint mister "MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS" ..

your material really needs work, kiddo. first off, kerry IS a liar. all he has to do is pleae the public, get in the white house, and he can get away with murder for the next 4 years. bush, on the other hand, has to stand by his actions AND tell why he should get another go.

bush may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but he's a hell of a lot more honest than Mr. purple heart veteran-i-coulda-done-better man.

p.s. don't be so sloppy next time.

SilviaNinja240
10-02-2004, 06:34 PM
I'm shocked how people can stand so blindly behind Bush. Bush IS a liar, and the country is suffering in many aspects of it due to his actions.
Here's some examples:

1. Bush: "We went into Russia, we said, 'Here's some IMF money,' and it ended up in Viktor Chernomyrdin's pocket and others."

Fact: "Bush appears to have tangled up whispers about possible wrongdoing by Chernomyrdin -- who co-chaired a commission with Gore on U.S.-Russian relations -- with other unrelated allegations concerning the diversion of International Monetary Fund money. While there has been speculation that Chernomyrdin profited from his relationship with Gazprom, a big Russian energy concern, there have been no allegations that he stole IMF money." Washingon Post, 10/12/00

2. Bush: "We got one [a hate crime law] in Texas, and guess what? The three men who murdered James Byrd, guess what's going to happen to them? They're going to be put to death ... It's going to be hard to punish them any worse after they get put to death....We're happy with our laws on our books."

Fact: "The three were convicted under Texas' capital murder statute...The state has a hate crime statute, but it is vague." LA Times, 10/12/00.
"The original Texas hate-crimes bill, signed into law by Democrat Ann Richards, boosted penalties for crimes motivated by bigotry. As Gore correctly noted, Bush maneuvered to make sure a new hate-crimes law related to the Byrd killing did not make it to his desk. The new bill would have included homosexuals among the groups covered, which would have been anathema to social conservatives in the state." Washington Post, 10/12/00

3. Bush: bragged that in Texas he was signing up children for the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) as "fast as any other state."

Fact: "As governor he fought to unsuccessfully to limit access to the program. He would have limited its coverage to children with family incomes up to 150 percent of the poverty level, though federal law permitted up to 200 percent. The practical effect of Bush's efforts would have been to exclude 200,000 of the 500,000 possible enrollees." Washington Post, 10/12/00

4. Bush: "He [Gore] is for registration of guns."

Fact: "Gore actually favors licensing for new handgun purchasers but nothing as vast as registering all guns." Salon, 10/12/00

5. Bush: Said he found Gore's tendency to exaggerate "an issue in trying to defend my tax relief package. There was some exaggeration about the numbers" in the first debate.

Fact: "No, there wasn't, and Bush himself acknowledged that the next day on ABC's Good Morning America when Charlie Gibson pinned him on it." Salon, 10/12/00

6. Bush: "I felt during his debate with Senator [Bill] Bradley saying he [Gore] authored the EITC [earned-income tax credit] when it didn't happen."

Fact: "Actually, Gore had claimed to have authored an 'expansion of the earned-income tax credit,' which he did in 1991." Salon, 10/12/00

7. Fact: Gore noted that Texas "ranks 49th out of the 50 states in healthcare in children with healthcare, 49th for women with healthcare and 50th for families with healthcare"

Bush: "You can quote all the numbers you want but I'm telling you we care about our people in Texas. We spent a lot of money to make sure people get healthcare in the state of Texas."

8. Fact: Gore said, "I'm no expert on the Texas procedures, but what my friends there tell me is that the governor opposed a measure put forward by Democrats in the Legislature to expand the number of children that would be covered ... And instead [he] directed the money toward a tax cut, a significant part of which went to wealthy interests."

Bush: "If he's trying to allege I'm a hardhearted person and don't care about children, he's absolutely wrong."

9. Bush: "The three men who murdered James Byrd, guess what's going to happen to them? They'll be put to death. A jury found them guilty."

Fact: Two of the three are being put to death. The other was given life. Bush Watch, 10/12/00

10. Bush: said he favored "equal" rights for gays and lesbians, but not "special" rights.

Fact: "Bush has supported a Texas law that allows the state to take adopted children from gay and lesbian couples to place the kids with straight couples." Salon, 10/12/00.
"Bush supports hate crime protections for other minorities! So Bush doesn't believe that gays should have the same 'special' rights in this regard as blacks, Jews, Wiccans and others. Employment discrimination? Again, Bush supports those rights for other Americans, but not gays. Military service? Bush again supports the right to military service for all qualified people--as long as they don't tell anyone they're gay. Marriage? How on earth is that a special right when every heterosexual in America already has it? But again, Bush thinks it should be out-of-bounds for gays. What else is there? The right to privacy? Nuh-huh. Bush supports a gays-only sodomy law in his own state that criminalizes consensual sex in private between two homosexuals." New Republic, 10/13/00

11. Bush. "We ought to do everything we can to end racial profiling."

Fact: The Texas Department of Public Safety has just this year begun keeping detailed information about the race and sex of all people stopped by its troopers, the sixth year Bush has been in office. Salon, 10/12/00

12. Bush got caught not giving the full story on Texas air pollution laws. He was correct in saying the 1999 utility deregulation bill he signed into law had mandatory emissions standards.

Fact: "What was missing, as Gore's campaign pointed out, was that many more non-utility industrial plants are not mandated to reduce air quality. The issue is an important one because Texas ranks near the bottom in air-quality standards. Bush instead approved a voluntary program allowing grandfathered oil, coal, and other industrial plants to cut down on pollution." Boston Globe, 10/12/00

13. Bush: About the Balkans, "I think it ought to be one of our priorities to work with our European friends to convince them to put troops on the ground."

Fact: "European forces already make up a large majority of the peacekeeping forces in Bosnia and Kosovo." Washington Post, 10/12/00

14. Bush: "One of the problems we have in the military is we're in a lot of places around the world" and cited Haiti as an example.

Fact: "Though approximately 20,000 U.S. troops went to Haiti in 1994, as of late August this year, there were only 109 U.S. troops in Haiti and most were rotating through as part of an exercise." Washington Post, 10/12/00

15. Bush: "I don't think we ought to be selling guns to people who shouldn't have them. That's why I support instant background checks at gun shows. One of the reasons we have an instant background check is so that we instantly know whether or not someone should have a gun or not."

Fact: "Bush overstates the effectiveness of instant background checks for people trying to buy guns ... The Los Angeles Times reported on Oct. 3 that during Bush's term as governor, Texas granted licenses for carrying concealed guns to hundreds of people with criminal records and histories of drug problems, violence or psychological disorders." Washington Post, 10/12/00
"He didn't mention that Texas failed to perform full background checks on 407 people who had prior criminal convictions but were granted concealed handgun licenses under a law he signed in 1995. Of those, 71 had convictions that should have excluded them from having a concealed gun permit, the Texas Department of Public Safety acknowledged." AP, 10/12/00

16. Bush:"Said the number of Texans without health insurance had declined while the number in the United States had risen."

Fact: " A new Census Bureau report says the number of uninsured Americans declined last year for the first time since statistics were kept in 1987. About 42.5 million people, or 15.5 percent of the population, lacked insurance in 1999, compared with 44.2 million, or 16.3 percent, in 1998, the agency reported. Texas ranked next-to-last in the nation last year with 23.3 percent of its residents uninsured. But that was an improvement from 1998, when it ranked 50th at 24.5 percent." AP, 10/12/00

17. Bush: "Some of the scientists, I believe, Mr. Vice President, haven't they been changing their opinion a little bit on global warming?"

Fact: "Bush's dismissive comments about global warming could bolster the charge that he and fellow oilman Dick Cheney are in the pocket of the oil industry, which likewise pooh-poohs the issue. [While] there is no consensus about the impact of global warming, ... most scientists agree that humans are contributing to the rising global temperature. 'Most climate experts are certain that global warming is real and that it threatens ecology and human prosperity, and a growing number say it is well under way,' wrote New York Times science writer Andrew Revkin." Salon, 10/13/00

18. Bush: When Jim Lehrer asked Bush if he approved of the U.S. intervention in Lebanon during the Reagan years, Bush answered a quick "yes" and moved on.

Fact: "Lebanon was a disaster in the history of American foreign affairs. Next to Iran-Contra, it was the Reagan administration's greatest overseas fiasco. Quoting from the Encyclopedia of the American Presidency: '[In 1983] Reagan stumbled into a disastrous intervention in the Middle East when he sent U.S. Marines into Lebanon on an ill-defined mission as part of an international peacekeeping force.' In December, according to Reagan biographer Edmund Morris, 'two days before Christmas, a Pentagon commission of inquiry into the Beirut barracks bombing humiliated [Secretary of State] Shultz [who had backed the intervention], and embarrassed Reagan, by concluding that the dead Marines had been victims of a myopic Middle Eastern policy.'" tompaine.com, 10/11/00

19. Bush: "I thought the president made the right decision in joining NATO and bombing Serbia. I supported him when they did so."

Fact: The bombing of Serbia began on March 24, 1999, and Bush did not express even measured support until April 8, 1999 -- nearly two weeks later. Prior to April 8, 1999, every comment by Bush about the bombing was non-committal. Finally, he offered a measured endorsement: "It's important for the United States to be slow to engage the military, but once the military is engaged, it must be engaged with one thing in mind, and that is victory," he said after being pressed by reporters. A Houston Chronicle story documented the Governor's statements on the crisis and reported that "Bush has been widely criticized for being slow to adopt a position on Kosovo and then for making vague statements on the subject." Houston Chronicle, 4/9/99

20. Bush: Discussing International Loans: "And there's some pretty egregious examples recently, one being Russia where we had IMF loans that ended up in the pockets of a lot of powerful people and didn't help the nation."

Fact: Bush's own vice presidential candidate, Dick Cheney, lobbied for U.S.-backed loan to Russia that helped his own company. "Halliburton Co. lobbied for and received $ 292 million in loan guarantees to develop one of the world's largest oil fields in Russia. Cheney said: 'This is exactly the type of project we should be encouraging if Russia is to succeed in reforming its economy ... We at Halliburton appreciate the support of the Export-Import Bank and look forward to beginning work on this important project.." PR Newswire 4/6/2000.
The State Department, armed with a CIA report detailing corruption by Halliburton's Russian partner, invoked a seldom-used prerogative and ordered suspension of the loan. The loan guarantee "ran counter to America's 'national interest," the State Department ruled. New Republic, 8/7/00

21. Bush "There's a lot of talk about trigger locks being on guns sold in the future. I support that."

Fact: When asked in 1999, if he was in support of mandatory safety locks, Bush said, " No, I'm not, I'm for voluntary safety locks on guns." In March of 2000, Bush said he would not push for trigger lock legislation, but would sign it if it passed [Washington Post, 3/3/00;ABC, Good Morning America, 5/10/99]. When Bush was asked, "when two bills were introduced in the Texas legislature to require the sale of child safety locks with newly purchased handguns, and you never addressed the issue with the legislature, and both bills died. If you support it, why did that happen?" Bush said, "Because those bills had no votes in committee." When asked again if he supported the bills, Bush said, "I wasn't even aware of those bills because they never even got out of committee." NBC, Today Show, 5/12/00

22. Bush: "Africa is important and we've got to do a lot of work in Africa to promote democracy and trade." Fact "While Africa may be important, it doesn't fit into the national strategic interests, as far as I can see them," Bush said earlier. When he was asked for his vision of the U.S. national interests, he named every continent except Africa. According to Time magazine, "[Bush] focused exclusively on big ticket issues ... Huge chunks of the globe -- Africa and Latin America, for example -- were not addressed at all." Time, 12/6/99; PBS News Hour, 2/16/00; Toronto Star, 2/16/00

23. Bush: "There's only been one governor ever elected to back-to-back four year terms and that was me."

Fact: The governors who served two consecutive four-year terms (meeting Bush's statement criteria are): Coke R. Stevenson (2 consecutive 4-year terms) August 4, 1941-January 21, 1947. Allan Shivers (2 consecutive four-year terms) July 11, 1949-January 15, 1957. Price Daniel (2 consecutive four-year terms) January 15, 1957-January 15, 1963. John Connally (2 consecutive four-year terms) January 15, 1963-January 21, 1969. Dolph Briscoe (2 consecutive four-year terms) January 16, 1973-January 16, 1979. George W. Bush (2 consecutive four-year terms) January 17, 1995 to present. Source: Texas State Libraries and Archives Commission.

24. Bush: "We spend $4.7 billion a year on the uninsured in the state of Texas."

Fact: The state of Texas came up with less than $1B for this purpose. $3.5 came from local governments, private providers, and charities, $198M from the federal government, and just less than $1B from Texas state agencies. Source: Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts.

Sanchi
10-02-2004, 07:06 PM
your material really needs work, kiddo. first off, kerry IS a liar. all he has to do is pleae the public, get in the white house, and he can get away with murder for the next 4 years. bush, on the other hand, has to stand by his actions AND tell why he should get another go.

bush may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but he's a hell of a lot more honest than Mr. purple heart veteran-i-coulda-done-better man.

p.s. don't be so sloppy next time.


My material needs work huh, please explain? How is he gona get away with murder? I would LOVE for you to please show me any resonable facts that might have helped you come to this conclusion? With such a ludicrous accusation, and say my material needs work? Come on... Sloppy, this entire situation in Iraq is sloppy. How is Bush being honest about his actions?? Instead of admitting to some of the things you do wrong, let's just ignore it. Honest my ass...

G_Fish240
10-02-2004, 09:57 PM
The United States does not controll the IMF, they are an independent international body

FastBack 240
10-03-2004, 12:22 AM
http://www.gambits.com/politics/kerry-two-face.jpg

http://www.shopmetrospy.com/graphics/Product_95_PrSpare2.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdejager/osamawantsu.jpg

http://www.nojohnkerry.org/imagemedia/counterpunch/golddigger.jpg

:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

SilviaNinja240
10-03-2004, 01:05 AM
http://home.student.uu.se/h/helu1507/Bilder/Bush.My%20king.JPG
http://www.staticfiends.com/bush/n-bush-as-a-woman-03.jpg
http://www.staticfiends.com/bush/bush%20or%20chimp.jpg
http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/bush._oil_stocks.gif

SilviaNinja240
10-03-2004, 01:37 AM
The United States does not controll the IMF, they are an independent international body

What they mean when they say the US controls the IMF, they mean that the United States has a heavy influence within the IMF to the point where American interests dominate the IGO.

How it works is that 3rd world countries will vote the way the United States wants them to in regards as to what is on the agenda. In exchange the US will grant that country investment, venture capital, 'favors', etc.. However if any of the 3rd world countries fail to comply the G8 (which includes America) can veto any measure proposed.

Voting power at the World Bank and IMF is determined by the level of a nation's financial contribution (one dollar, one vote) and the G8 holds a level of contrabution that puts them in the majority, leaving 3rd world countries no decision in the matter.

That's what he's talking about

rayberg101
10-03-2004, 08:12 AM
"John Kerry...more positions than any other candidate....and the courage to stand behind them all."

Almost less than a month boys and girls....hurry, hurry, hurry, decide on the best liar for future America.

legin2
10-03-2004, 09:09 AM
that kerry add was fucking sweet. he's on my side!!!! thats so cool. I guess Ill vote for him now. :jerkit:

24Zero
10-03-2004, 09:20 AM
The are both liars. The choice is to choose the least evil. Here is the real problem. GB Sr. should have finished what he started. He should have listened to General Sw... Just like we should have listed to Patton. Clinton down sized the military and did not take out BL when he blew a hole in the USS Cole. At least GWB had the balls to do something. JK will pull out (and we all know that pulling out always works). If we are going to bitch then we should run ourselves and truely make a difference- or find someone with integrity that will.

RJF
10-03-2004, 09:38 AM
Kerry showing America's enemies how far he's willing to bend over.

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL314/488109/4032616/68473279.jpg

Looks like Gore and Kerry use the same mortician, I mean make-up person. :D
Wonder what shade of lipstick they use?

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/gen/lgdivas.jpg

FastBack 240
10-03-2004, 10:35 AM
Gore looks stoned.

MakotoS13
10-03-2004, 11:56 AM
My material needs work huh, please explain?

"Thanks for the hint mister "MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS" .." -you

How is he gona get away with murder?

yes, i meant murder LITERALLY. i think he'll go mad with power and start murdering the inhabitants of the white house. Kerry is a pussy. Kerry is a ribbon chaser. he wears those purple hearts like some kinda badge of honor when all of them were superficial and one of them was from.... his OWN WEAPON. he strikes me as the kinda guy that'll lay down to anything that'll get him ahead and sacrifice anyone that he can to get there.




I would LOVE for you to please show me any resonable facts that might have helped you come to this conclusion?

this is where i'm supposed to cite all his wordn for word contractions that started this thread.

With such a ludicrous accusation, and say my material needs work?

apparently, so does your english.

Come on... Sloppy, this entire situation in Iraq is sloppy.

show me a war that is spic and span and all cherries on icing... go on now... do it.


How is Bush being honest about his actions?? Instead of admitting to some of the things you do wrong, let's just ignore it. Honest my ass...

yeah, i guess we just paid off all those other countries to give our government enough evidence to see a need for this war. if you really think sadam didn't have WMD's you sir are a moron.

lets say i get busted for murder but they let me off provided i help them in future investigations. okay, so some chick gets kidnapped and the perp's car matches mine's make and model. if i get pulled over and a cop wants to see my trunk what is he gonna think if i tell him to shove off?

okay, now pretend that my trunk is a huge desert and the cop is the american goverment and me, i'm saddam. the fat oaf acted fishy enough to warrant the whole shabang and anyone that disagrees with that is one sammich short of a picnic, dick.

Sanchi
10-03-2004, 12:09 PM
Ya im sure you have made your point, attack me and answer my responce with gibberish and with another question... you sir, are the moron

RJF
10-03-2004, 01:28 PM
http://www.tbesite.net/fumbled.jpg

SilviaNinja240
10-03-2004, 02:05 PM
http://bushparody.freewebspace.com/retard_bush2.gif

MakotoS13
10-03-2004, 02:20 PM
Ya im sure you have made your point, attack me and answer my responce with gibberish and with another question... you sir, are the moron

gibberish? you really shouldn't call something gibberish because you can't keep up.

answer my responce with gibberish and with another question

true wisdom is not having all right the answers but asking the right questions.

Sanchi
10-03-2004, 03:57 PM
umm ok...

Hey RJF Kerry's still holding the football how is that a fumble :p