1993.5 Toyota Supra TT 6 speed

[Tubasteve1]

Name: Steve Miller
Email: [email protected] or text 651-968-6426
City: Detroit Metro
State: MI
Zip: 48323
Price: $43,500obo
Vin: JT2JA82J7P0004359

Price/Trades: I have a little wiggle room on price, but comparatively my asking is less than any Sub 115k miles BPU 6 speed with a clean title and vins. I am not opposed to trades, but they must come with at least $30,000 on top. This is roughly what I owe to USAA so I'm not negotiable on that.

Financing: I am not a bank. I do not finance or take payments. JJBest, USAA, PenFed, Suntrust, are all banks that are known for lending out on Supras.

Disclosure: I owe on the car to USAA. Detailed photos in this link (https://www.flickr.com/photos/evoforstevo/sets/72157672777332305/with/28519814314/)

Details:
Original 6 speed Turbo
I’m the 3rd owner
105,xxx miles
Black on tan
Only missing VIN is hood (no accidents reported to carfax)

Modifications:
HKS Ti Exhaust (<5k miles)
Megan downpipe (<5k miles)
ETS 4” intercooler (<5k miles)
HKS SSQV (<5k miles)
Manual boost controller (<5k miles)
Wastegate spring mod
KBPrice hood struts
TRD Strut bar
Newly refinish ’98 polished wheels with brand new Continental DW tires
’98 heads, tails, signals, steering wheel (w/cruise), and bumper fin
Whifbitz style lip painted to match
Ravelco anti-theft (inhibits ignition when unplugged)
Alpine radio

Maintenance:
Timing [email protected] (belts and water pump)
South bend Stage 3 clutch with new flywheel
Ignition connectors and coil packs
Shifter panel and center console
Silicone vacuum tubing
Spark plugs and oil just changed

Defects:
Minor paint imperfections
Hatch rust has started under the weather stripping but has not reached much beyond that -----I had a paint correction done and this has been touched up. Obviously not resolved but no longer apparent.
Glove box has been “modified” to fit the USB chord and be able to close
Exhaust is hung a little low for my taste. It doesn’t hit anything or really matter, just a visual problem for me.
Car was originally wingless, the trunk struts are on the way out (still functional but will need to be changed)
Headlights have very minor bubbling in the paint

Extras:
Under tray
Stock downpipe
RMM Wing
Supra OEM Floor mats
Framed window sticker

https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8240/28519814314_28fa4b2f3c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Kscvbs)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/Kscvbs) by Stephen Miller (https://www.flickr.com/photos/evoforstevo/), on Flickr

[Z32TwinTurbo]

For 40k this thing should have a lot less miles

[Tubasteve1]

Find me a minimally modified, clean title, original 6 speed for less.

A comparable car I could find:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Supra-Twin-Turbo-/322222755860?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4b05f91014:g:4lwAAOSwawpXqnKm&item=322222755860

[KAT-PWR]

I wouldn't consider that a comp

[Tubasteve1]

And why's that?
Yes, fewer miles, black interior and silver exterior...

Can you find a better one?

[Z32TwinTurbo]

If it has paint imperfections , rust , and 100k miles , it is not worth 40k.

[RHD*bro]

I can get 3 RHD supras for this price lol ... These are getting harder to find however glws

[R32Dragon]

The Nissan guys here aren't very savvy on current Supra pricing.

[RHD*bro]

prices are prices there's always a buyer no matter the price tag

[rawgarage]

Let him sell his shit.... Gah damn critics

[wisniaPl]

Soon they will be legal to import under 25 year rule

[Tubasteve1]

I can get 3 RHD supras for this price lol ... These are getting harder to find however glws

And all of them would be illegal.


If any actual buyer would like to discuss price, my phone number is listed.

[RalliartRsX]

Let him sell his shit.... Gah damn critics

And not a single one of then could afford to buy the headlight bulb much less this car but they sure have lots of opinion :picardfp:

[d_nice]

Great car. Good luck with sale.

[Whitey13]

The Zilvia keyboard warriors living up to their reputation. I've never seen a group of people more desperate to be the authority on everything.

Educate yourselves before commenting, please.

[Nissan2nr22]

And not a single one of then could afford to buy the headlight bulb much less this car but they sure have lots of opinion :picardfp:


Speak for yourself. How do you know they can't?

[RalliartRsX]

Speak for yourself. How do you know they can't?

Usually, legitimate buyers or potential buyers simply conduct business and negotiations over PM or privately as opposed to resorting to mocking the individuals prices publicly .

In my 10-15 years of buying and selling cars, Not a single individual who considered my item prices out of their own affordability and decided to post on my thread to voice these very concerns has negotiated what they would deam a more reasonable price. NOT-A-SINGLE-ONE! Even when approached with a lower offer on my end. They simply never had 2 dimes to rub together to begin with........

I can almost guarantee the critics.........wait sorry, "market experts" above were never genuinely interested in purchasing the OP's vehicle as opposed to just being key board warriors.......... If they had the ability to afford such an acquisition, they would not be posting on Zilvia :facepalm:

[ZenkiKid]

You financed a 20+ year old vehicle?

GLWS man...

[Tubasteve1]

I can make more than 2.5% with my money rather than tie up capital in an asset that best case I can break even on.

[spooled240]

You financed a 20+ year old vehicle?

GLWS man...

Please tell us how financing a new vehicle that immediately looses 20% of it's value as soon as you drive it off the lot is a better financial decision?

These cars are appreciating or maintaining their value at the very least.

[jedi03]

dontcha know????? its a much better idea lol!

[andrew600]

Please tell us how financing a new vehicle that immediately looses 20% of it's value as soon as you drive it off the lot is a better financial decision?

These cars are appreciating or maintaining their value at the very least.

i think he more meant that financing a vehicle thats old for that much money is going to be a nightmare. no bank that i know of would give me 40k for a 93.


banks loan out on modern cars because they have resale value.

im sure you already knew that but im just saying for everyone else thats never had to finance a vehicle before.

only way he is going to sell is to find someone with cash lol.

it is a nice car though and one of my dream cars, glws!

[Whitey13]

The ignorance in this thread is fascinating.

If they made one of those 'Shit Zilvians Say' skits on youtube, this could be used as the script.

I hope the OP doesn't delete this and I don't thing he needs too much luck selling one of the most desirable import cars in history.

[spooled240]

i think he more meant that financing a vehicle thats old for that much money is going to be a nightmare. no bank that i know of would give me 40k for a 93.


banks loan out on modern cars because they have resale value.

im sure you already knew that but im just saying for everyone else thats never had to finance a vehicle before.

only way he is going to sell is to find someone with cash lol.

it is a nice car though and one of my dream cars, glws!

Some credit unions offer financing for old and even salvaged cars - I know mine does. 40k may be a different story though, I'm not sure.

[RalliartRsX]

............Or he could just do a personal loan.

Either way, who the hell cares what loan this guys has?!?!

Mods need to clean this thread up........

[andrew600]

............Or he could just do a personal loan.

Either way, who the hell cares what loan this guys has?!?!

Mods need to clean this thread up........

well unless you have cash, there is no way to buy the car.

let me know what bank will give out a 40k personal loan.
and also let me know what that interest rate will be....
and what limb you need to cut off for them to give it to you as well...

stupid.

[RalliartRsX]

1) Anyone buying a 40K car typically has their finances sorted (be it a loan or just cash). At a certain price range, people just pay outright cash with a wire transfer

2) I could easily get a personal loan with a fairly low interest rate from my credit union as my credit score is approaching 800.

3) You are not buying or planning to buy the car, right (which if you were at 40K, you would already have figured out how the to afford such a vehicle, so my assumption is no)??

4) Once you get to a certain demographic in regards to higher end (and 40K isn't even considered higher end.............only on Zilvia) purchases, these discussions in terms of finance taking place on this forum would not be occurring

5) Who the fuck cares?!?! If you are not buying, let the OP sell for whatever he wants! Ignorance is bliss.........

[brndck]

holy shit this place is full of idiots.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO PURCHASE THIS CAR, EAT TWO DICKS AND SHUT THE FUCK UP.


its reasonably priced, and the mkiv supra market is NOTHING like the s-chassis market

[Whitey13]

well unless you have cash, there is no way to buy the car.

let me know what bank will give out a 40k personal loan.
and also let me know what that interest rate will be....
and what limb you need to cut off for them to give it to you as well...

stupid.

I'll assume you're just having a bad day because you're missing this by a mile.

He clearly states the answers to your questions above.

He financed the car through USAA and listed 3 other institutions that will lend on such a car. For shit & giggles I just checked and my credit union will loan me $40K unsecured for 8.5%

He suggests his interest rate is ~2.5%

Zero limbs are know to have been removed.

Take a deep breathe and think about what you're saying.

[brndck]

/\/\/\/\/\/\ THIS.

I'm relieved that there are still intelligent humans on zilvia. I was beginning to worry

[Whitey13]

/\/\/\/\/\/\ THIS.

I'm relieved that there are still intelligent humans on zilvia. I was beginning to worry

We're both in our 30's, so it must come with age.

[andrew600]

/\/\/\/\/\/\ THIS.

I'm relieved that there are still intelligent humans on zilvia. I was beginning to worry

im still worried if you think you are one of them.

[andrew600]

I'll assume you're just having a bad day because you're missing this by a mile.

He clearly states the answers to your questions above.

He financed the car through USAA and listed 3 other institutions that will lend on such a car. For shit & giggles I just checked and my credit union will loan me $40K unsecured for 8.5%

He suggests his interest rate is ~2.5%

Zero limbs are know to have been removed.

Take a deep breathe and think about what you're saying.

i didnt have any questions to anything. and shits and gigs doesnt get you the money..... it only lets you see what you might be able to buy if you actually get approved.
lol i think i can afford a 500,000$ house because a link on the internet said im pre approved!!!!!!!! lol omg such afford.

im not sure how many of you have actually done this before or are speaking from experience.. maybe its just me???

i think the car is sweet titties and hope the op sells. i was simply explaining that getting financed for a car that old is not easy to do. and interest rates dont fall into the 2s with 40k on a 93. unless he is blowing the usaa ceo that going to be a no go.

i dont really care one way or the other, i was just bored and saw dummie heads being dummie heads.

[RalliartRsX]

i was simply explaining that getting financed for a car that old is not easy to do. and interest rates dont fall into the 2s with 40k on a 93. unless he is blowing the usaa ceo that going to be a no go.




People who CANNOT afford these cars have this very same perception oddly enough........

I recommend you stick to buying missiles.

[Whitey13]

let me know what bank will give out a 40k personal loan.

let me know what that interest rate will be....

what limb you need to cut off for them to give it to you as well...

stupid.

i didnt have any questions to anything. and shits and gigs doesnt get you the money.....

I don't think you're in the proper tax bracket to be having this conversation. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.

[Tubasteve1]

Thanks for keeping me up top fellas.

[Whitey13]

Thanks for keeping me up top fellas.

Stay outta this Steve

[Tubasteve1]

Stay outta this Steve

http://i.imgur.com/UvlSs3r.jpg

[Whitey13]

Hilarious!

[andrew600]

Thanks for keeping me up top fellas.

wooooooh!!!!!!

[NHTKID]

Jeez, I can't wait for the day that this forum gets better. A loan on a car like this in 5 years, assuming it remains stock, you could make a little money if you sold it. Just calculate your interest and project market appreciation (This isn't always the case, but for this car I would bet it is). It should give you a decent idea anyway. Maybe pocket 5 to 10 grand if you pay it off quick.

I would do it if I didn't already have a money pit. GLWS! It looks super clean.

[turbronegro]

Banks lend to new cars which are immediate depreciation even if you have credit in the 500s you'll get approved on a new auto loan. They know by the end of the loan the interest rate will pay them more than enough to make up for it and then some. You'll be upside down but not the bank after your 72 month 15% APR.

Banks most definitely lend for used cars no matter the age, if the car loan is under market value or if the particular model is known to retain value or is increasing in market value. MKIV TT Supra, NSX, 993 911's, and Mercedes w124 e500 are just a few cars from the 90s I know credit unions and usaa will lend on.

People who think otherwise either have shit credit, a shit bank, have never tried or any combination of the 3.

To the OP, GLWS.

[Alan_405]

The Nissan guys here aren't very savvy on current Supra pricing.


^^^^

I concur lol

[SupaDoopa]

Being someone who has the money to buy this cash and has USAA and perfect credit, I'd be rather surprised if I told them I'd want to finance a 1993 Toyota Supra for $40,000+ that they'd be open to it. They don't care what you 'think' it's worth, what an enthusiast thinks it's worth or what Bill Nye thinks it's worth. They're going to open a NADA book, get a book value and calculate to the highest percentage they're willing to loan out on top of the car. The older it is, the smaller that percentage is.

Go ahead. Quote this and call me stupid and dumb. I was a used car manager for a very large dealer that has very good ties with tons of banks - especially military [no need to disclose said dealership but they essentially sell units to the government and all it's entities]. If you honestly think USAA or a local credit union is going to see you pull up in a sweet MKIV and give you a high five and a bag of cash for how awesome the car is, you need to drink bleach.

If you don't know how NADA, auction reports or bank loans work, please just stop posting. No bank will touch this shit for more than $25,000 and that's if your credit is perfect UNLESS you put up some cash or collateral for when - not if - you decide paying $600 a month for a used car is almost as stupid as you are for buying it.

If you don't have the cash to buy it and the means to justify it, stop posting here and keep walking. If you're curious what they're going for, this is on the higher spectrum but it's a solid $32,000-$35,000 car is the paperwork matches up TO AN ENTHUSIAST. Your bank isn't going to agree, though. They're probably going to laugh.

So, recap:
-A bank isn't going to touch $40,000+ for a 1993 unless it's a Ferrari without a ton down or collateral which essentially brings the financed 'total' down.
-The price is in the right ballpark-ish.
-If you have to actually think about financing this thing, you shouldn't consider it.
-It's sweet regardless the hate.

[Tubasteve1]

$38,000 BYO wheels
$39,500 With.

[Whitey13]

Being someone who has the money to buy this cash and has USAA and perfect credit, I'd be rather surprised if I told them I'd want to finance a 1993 Toyota Supra for $40,000+ that they'd be open to it. They don't care what you 'think' it's worth, what an enthusiast thinks it's worth or what Bill Nye thinks it's worth. They're going to open a NADA book, get a book value and calculate to the highest percentage they're willing to loan out on top of the car. The older it is, the smaller that percentage is.


He has the car financed through USAA, so your whole post is moot.

[Vaevictus]

Fucking primo car, glws

[SupaDoopa]

He has the car financed through USAA, so your whole post is moot.

He has his car financed through USAA is null and void. You don't know what prerequisites they required, collateral, money down, etc. And who said he financed $40,000+? Who's to say he didn't finance a small chunk at a stupid finance rate [which I assume it is] and paid nearly nothing towards principle? There are too many variables to just assume that any Joe Schmoe can just walk into a credit union and finance whatever their heart desires for nearly three times it's worth.

Let's not say stupid things before really thinking about it, chief.

[Whitey13]

He has his car financed through USAA is null and void. You don't know what prerequisites they required, collateral, money down, etc. And who said he financed $40,000+? Who's to say he didn't finance a small chunk at a stupid finance rate [which I assume it is] and paid nearly nothing towards principle? There are too many variables to just assume that any Joe Schmoe can just walk into a credit union and finance whatever their heart desires for nearly three times it's worth.

Let's not say stupid things before really thinking about it, chief.

He's already told us the amount he financed and suggested his interest rate, so the point is it can be done. I appreciate your passion though.

Sincerely,
Chief Whitey

[kensin0429]

I was willing to bring my own wheels and offered 38k cash for this car quick and easy. but no. the supra guys think I was low grade third class citizen for saying such an offer and banned me. good luck guys.

[Tubasteve1]

You didn't respond to my message. And I have no control over what other people post in my threads.

[RalliartRsX]

I was willing to bring my own wheels and offered 38k cash for this car quick and easy. but no. the supra guys think I was low grade third class citizen for saying such an offer and banned me. good luck guys.

Wait, so you had 38K ready to buy a car YOU want, but because of what people said on the internet (people who have ZERO influence on your life and life decisions), you decided to not buy a car YOU want?!?!? Why does what other people have to say influence your own purchase?!?! Any why was the offer in public domain to begin with?? The car is here now listed at exactly what you offered, so there is no reason why negotiations should not continue.

Not trying to be a dick, but that should not be preventing you from buying a car YOU want.........You have access to the gentleman here so................

:hs:

[kensin0429]

I totally understand thanks

[Whitey13]

I was willing to bring my own wheels and offered 38k cash for this car quick and easy. but no. the supra guys think I was low grade third class citizen for saying such an offer and banned me. good luck guys.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd246/jrwhite13/supra_zpstmjoepl6.jpg (http://s220.photobucket.com/user/jrwhite13/media/supra_zpstmjoepl6.jpg.html)

Now, the real story was that you told the seller to call you if he wanted to sell it to you, like an entitled little child, all the while you wouldn't respond to his private messages. But don't let the truth get in the way of your pity party.

[kensin0429]

hahah why don't you post everything else along with my last statement? that seems like your just focusing on to make me look like a dick . and no. I dout saying what I said in the first place is in anyway rude. but the rest of the "nice" supra community decide ito was a good gesture to say speak sarcastically and make smart ass remarks not onec but three times . and then ban me for defending my self ? lol pity party?

now I wouldn't touch this supra if he offered 30k with the damn wheels just because of the fact how the rest of supra community treats people. like I said. third grade low class citizen if you cant pay 40 50 60 k for a supra . so let's drop it and wish op good luck on selling this car

[Whitey13]

hahah why don't you post everything else along with my last statement? that seems like your just focusing on to make me look like a dick . and no. I dout saying what I said in the first place is in anyway rude. but the rest of the "nice" supra community decide ito was a good gesture to say speak sarcastically and make smart ass remarks not onec but three times . and then ban me for defending my self ? lol pity party?

I wouldn't touch this supra if he offered 30k with the damn wheels. so let's drop it and wish op good luck on selling this car

Because they deleted your comments when they banned you.

[R32Dragon]

Attention Zilvians: V160 TTs won't become $25k cars just because you want them to be worth that much. They cost alot because they are both rare and highly sought after. Let me explain how rare an original TT6 is.

Only 11,503 USDM Supras built between '93 and '98
^Only half of those were Twin Turbos
^Only half of those were V160 6spd cars
^And about 10-15% of those lost to attrition over the last 20 years
Leaves aprox 2,000 TT6s. Clean title and VIN matching examples are even rarer.

OP, GLWS, should be easy at 40k. Are you a member of the "Supra .nsx . Rx7 . Skyline and all 2jz Vehicle for sell or trade" group on facebook? 35k members and Supras sell quick there.

[Tubasteve1]

I am, I've had a few offers of $36 and $37k but I am firm on my price $38k without and $39,5 with the wheels.

I know of one other TT 6 speed under $40k and that's a repainted car with no vins and a single turbo

[Tubasteve1]

Tentatively sold, pending wire transfer.

[RalliartRsX]

Tentatively sold, pending wire transfer.

Awesome!

No one from here is it?? :naughty:

[Tubasteve1]

Awesome!

No one from here is it?? :naughty:

I actually gave kensin0429 a stellar deal for acting like a spoiled child!




:picardfp:







no one from here, no