My Horror Story with AutoFlex/Dip via DipOne Pro Coatings

[///Maestro]

I'm creating this thread to show my horror story with autoflex and share my frustration with you guys.

Car looks amazing doesn't it? WRONG - Pictures are so deceiving when it comes to Dip/Autoflex.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7135/27172696456_49f6a89155_b.jpg

I bought several new body parts for my car in hopes of getting it wrapped. My buddy went to a local shop here in NJ for autoflex and he mentioned that autoflex was just as good as wrap but about half the price. With that said, his Dip/Autoflex came out really good for the price! After doing some research and talking, I bit the bullet and made an appointment with DipOne Protective Coatings in Frenchtown NJ. He explained that I had to make an appointment a month in advance due to how busy they are... so I did.

- I dropped off the car and was supposed to get it within 3 days. I told him to keep it for a week because he told me he'd fix a very small crack in my amuse spoiler but may take an extra day or two to fix it. I knew of someone that dropped their car off at dipone AFTER me and got their car back before me. They kept my car for 11 days and I finally got it back.

-On the day I got the car back, it looked phenomenal from about 2+ feet away. Once I got closer, I noticed millions of problems. Below is a list of everything they managed to screw up:

-The crack in my wing? They said they fixed it. When I picked up my car, they literally just sprayed over the crack in my wing..
-GIANT paint runs down my driver-side Fly1 fenders.
-The masking on the car was awful. Multiple spots around the car still showed the OEM pearl white color.
-Several spots on the car was missing clear coat and had a matte finish.
-Overspray in SO many places.
-Owner told me my roof was wrapped in black, The day I came to pick up the car was when he told me "no it's not wrapped."
-Several spots on the car show the gray basecoat because whoever sprayed the car didn't want to bend down or get in the tough area's (particularly the inside of my amuse wing).
-There was paint on my windows and tires from terrible masking/overspray
-Instead of painting my front bumper, they painted and also vinyl wrapped the perimeter of the black part (grill) of my front bumper. The vinyl was peeling off since day 1 and this is something I never asked for.
-There were scratches, nibs, and nicks in the paintjob all throughout the car.

This is how the car looked the day before I dropped it off at DipOne to get the paint taken off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSCHXWXWg5w

When they told me the "paint came off clean" I assumed that they did a good job getting everything off. Little did I know that I was in for a shocker.
The following is what they did upon returning the car to me after dip removal:
-PINK BODY PANELS
-Broke a chunk off of my RS1 fenders
-Made the crack in my wing probably twice as long
-Cracked the clearcoat on my wing (CF top)
-Chipped paint off of my sideskirts
-ripped up some of the body filler from my front and rear bumpers.
-Blue dip is still ALL over the entire car and in the worst spots possible. It's going to take me DAYS to take everything off.
-Both my front fenders had a clear protective bra put on (not by them) and they ripped it off without consulting with me
-Both my taillights were tinted red (also NOT by them) and they removed the tint only on the drivers side?
-the car was completely filthy when they gave it back to me, didn't even bother cleaning it up.
-It took over 2 weeks for them to even process my refund.

Here's is the video I took the day I received the car at their shop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiX9HILi_X4

Here is how the car was dropped off:
http://i.imgur.com/paJsVFX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nC270BD.jpg

And this is how it was returned to me:
http://i.imgur.com/HyxELPU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oBvwHO3.jpg


I was quoted roughly 6-7 thousand in repair costs to get it back to OEM pearl and to fix all their mistakes. This does not include painting the front and rear bumpers, along with this wing.

This thread was solely created to spread awareness of DipOne "pro" Coatings and their work. I'm hoping no fellow car enthusiasts go through the nightmare I went through with this company. Thank you DipOne for ruining my car.

[Dman II-40]

The product the painted it with seems like its an alternative to plastidip, right?

[///Maestro]

It is dip. It's a plastidip base coat with a special clearcoat sprayed over it called "autoflex." The clearcoat is what gives it that paint-like gloss finish.

[scottie]

Wow. It always amazes me how companies like this stay in business.

[turboshoebox]

What the hell ever happened to painting ur car with um...paint

[feito]

God damn this fing sucks. I can only imagine how pissed off you must be. It's hard to find a decent worker nowadays, whether it is to flip a patty or to rebuild an engine, nothing but corner cutter, lazy ass mofos out there.
I hope more people see your videos and realize that this place aint worth a shlt before it gets more business. I hope you've submitted bad reviews wherever you can. A facebook link may be a good idea too.

[dorkidori_s13]

What the hell ever happened to painting ur car with um...paint


this x100000...

[tom]

You could always take them to small claims court, if you have documented the condition of the car before you gave it to them.

[KAT-PWR]

Take em to court.
Learn your lesson about cheaping out.
Goodluck

[silviaks2nr]

It's a hard lesson to learn with these wrap/dip products. But they aren't paint, and when they wear out don't expect them to come off without damage. Your car will look nice with a good paint job thankfully.

[wkpainter]

-Oh how i hate jersey.
-You paid for a service, the service was rendered. Get over it. You should have known better. There is a reason why paint jobs cost multiple thousands of dollars.
-I cant believe there are shops that plasti-derp cars full time. I can only imagine what the owner/ "technicians" of this shop are like. Im guessing super cool swaggot vaping hoonibros (see owner/operator of "dipyourcar.com").
-I want to know how the hell the color of your car changed by adding plasti-derp on top.
-It looks like you spent a lot of money on parts for that car... why would you cheap out on the paint.

:picardfp:

[Matej]

Hope they did not dip your brake lines. Those things are volatile.

[Tearlessj]

I don't understand the hate for this guy choosing to go with something else besides paint. The technology is there but the service was shit. If it wasn't for the imperfections it would look fine. I wouldn't do it if it was me but I can understand why someone would.

[JM216S14]

I don't understand the hate for this guy choosing to go with something else besides paint. The technology is there but the service was shit. If it wasn't for the imperfections it would look fine. I wouldn't do it if it was me but I can understand why someone would.

No it never looks good imperfections or not. Its a total fuckboi trend.

[KAT-PWR]

I don't understand the hate for this guy choosing to go with something else besides paint. The technology is there but the service was shit. If it wasn't for the imperfections it would look fine. I wouldn't do it if it was me but I can understand why someone would.

The texture and finish of plasti dip never compares to a properly painted piece. In the off season I'll plasti dip wheels for people and I've done quite a lot. Even my best jobs do not compare to even my mediocre paint jobs.
Why do you think plasti dip is trying to be more and more like paint?
There is a reason they're trying to spray a product more like real clear coat over the plasti dip surface.... And use an HVLP gun now.

Reasons to plasti dip
1. Doing accents because you're not sure if you will like the look and don't want to pony up the cash, after a short period you should know if you like the look, remove the dip, and commit to paint.
2. Lease car you know you're not going to keep but want to add some "flair" to it that you can remove before returning the car.

I'd take wrap over dip, at least wrap is a uniform surface and imperfections are easy to notice upon getting your car back.

[evomike]

-Oh how i hate jersey.
-You paid for a service, the service was rendered. Get over it. You should have known better. There is a reason why paint jobs cost multiple thousands of dollars.
-I cant believe there are shops that plasti-derp cars full time. I can only imagine what the owner/ "technicians" of this shop are like. Im guessing super cool swaggot vaping hoonibros (see owner/operator of "dipyourcar.com").
-I want to know how the hell the color of your car changed by adding plasti-derp on top.
-It looks like you spent a lot of money on parts for that car... why would you cheap out on the paint.

:picardfp:

about the color change, you can never be sure what spraying chemicals on paint and leaving them there will do. who knows what the hell is in this shit they sprayed on this car and ruined the finish.

[STR8 H8N]

What the hell ever happened to painting ur car with um...paint

back in my day son we had money to paint our cars

[corby_baby]

-Oh how i hate jersey.
-You paid for a service, the service was rendered. Get over it. You should have known better. There is a reason why paint jobs cost multiple thousands of dollars.
-I cant believe there are shops that plasti-derp cars full time. I can only imagine what the owner/ "technicians" of this shop are like. Im guessing super cool swaggot vaping hoonibros (see owner/operator of "dipyourcar.com").
-I want to know how the hell the color of your car changed by adding plasti-derp on top.
-It looks like you spent a lot of money on parts for that car... why would you cheap out on the paint.

:picardfp:

to be fair...there are some legitimate business out there dipping cars with proper tools and skills.

i.e. pearls and pigments in Houston, TX.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12936783_850817345027994_2849525682557833249_n.jpg ?oh=92ddca1dc38fe2166486dfc59c099f4e&oe=57FFDD0E

[Jorgs_7]

Yikes. My suggestion:

-Take out 1500$ of bank account

-Buy gun, equipment, materials, sealer, base and clear

-Paint your own car in garage

-Wet sand for days

Now you're 10000000x better off.

[MadMan88]

^This. Three days to paint, one month of wet sand. loved the results

[ixfxi]

Yikes. My suggestion:
-Take out 1500$ of bank account
-Buy gun, equipment, materials, sealer, base and clear
-Paint your own car in garage
-Wet sand for days
Now you're 10000000x better off.

^This. Three days to paint, one month of wet sand. loved the results

What the fuck is wrong with you guys. Fuckin rednecks. You dont paint a car in a garage, you take it to a body shop. You know, spray booth, employees, filtration systems, etc. You idiots are making suggestions that will continue to make his car worse and worse

Do yourself a favor, consider making life easier on yourself. You already made a bad decision by having this shit-show of a shop spray dip onto your car. Fortunately, that stuff shouldnt be too bad to remove. However, you can make life even easier by getting rid of that silly ass wing and those cheap aftermarket bumper/fenders/hood.

Your lucky that your car is new and parts are readily available. Order a new OEM bumper, fenders, hood, and just ditch all that garbage you've acquired - its not worth a damn anyway, cheapass fiberglass shit. Now you have fresh new body panels that you can repaint. If you want OEM pearl, fine, but at this point you can probably save a few bucks going with a solid white. You dont want to extreme of a color change - you want to stay within the same range of paint as what the car was originally painted. This way, rock chips and other defects wont be so noticeable.

Do yourself a favor and use this as a learning experience of what NOT to do: avoid shitty dip products, avoid shitty shops, and avoid installing cheap ass aftermarket aero. This may come off as harsh but trust me, you need to move past this fast and furious bullshit.

[Jorgs_7]

What the fuck is wrong with you guys. Fuckin rednecks. You dont paint a car in a garage, you take it to a body shop. You know, spray booth, employees, filtration systems, etc. You idiots are making suggestions that will continue to make his car worse and worse

Do yourself a favor, consider making life easier on yourself. You already made a bad decision by having this shit-show of a shop spray dip onto your car. Fortunately, that stuff shouldnt be too bad to remove. However, you can make life even easier by getting rid of that silly ass wing and those cheap aftermarket bumper/fenders/hood.

Do yourself a favor and use this as a learning experience of what NOT to do: avoid shitty dip products, avoid shitty shops, and avoid installing cheap ass aftermarket aero. This may come off as harsh but trust me, you need to move past this fast and furious bullshit.

You think he knew it was a shitty shop? likely not. Wouldn't anyone avoid a KNOWN shitty shop?

Jesus, what the hell crawled up your ass?

If you set up right, there's nothing wrong with a garage job (for the most part). I've seen numerous successful results. Including my own.

[greyZ]

Yikes. My suggestion:

-Take out 1500$ of bank account

-Buy gun, equipment, materials, sealer, base and clear

-Paint your own car in garage

-Wet sand for days

Now you're 10000000x better off.

While I do agree that this is a feasible option, especially for older cars, I struggle to agree that it is the right option for a 370z with a OEM Pearl job. You would be hard pressed to buy the gun and compressor for that much much less pearl paint. Even a garage job needs drop cloths and some kind of air filtration system at the very least or you will have some imperfections.


OP, take all the blue crap off, clean everything. Talk to a shop and remove everything in prep for paint, it will help for the total cost. That would be my suggestion.

If you need a paint recommendation, go to Cars and Coffee, find the nicest looking car and ask who his detailer is. Your hypercar detailers can give you a long list of reputable shops in the surrounding area.

[evomike]

i just watched your video about the quality issues, what the fuck were you honestly expecting? you are seriously going to bitch about orange peel and some slight masking imperfections, the problem here is you decided to be fucking cheap and get some hack bullshit on your car and except a show car paint job.

[bmhossain]

I'm curious as to how much this cost you initially. When I was pretty young, I had a car painted at Maaco and it was worse than this. Lesson learned there. I wouldn't have expected much better from plastidipping a car no matter who does it. Now what really sucks is to what happened to the paint when removed. Thats what I would be freaking out about.

[ixfxi]

You think he knew it was a shitty shop? likely not. Wouldn't anyone avoid a KNOWN shitty shop?

Jesus, what the hell crawled up your ass?

If you set up right, there's nothing wrong with a garage job (for the most part). I've seen numerous successful results. Including my own.

A stupid suggestion crawled up my ass. When I hear "shoot it in your garage and wet sand for days" - it makes no fucking sense. Is wet sanding supposed to take out hair, insects, and other random trash that ends up in the paint? Wet sanding will eliminate orange peel, thats it. Then you will still need to polish. Good luck polishing that turd. A good paint job requires MINIMAL color sanding. Besides the fact that the costs of good HVLP guns, good paint & supplies, a filtration system, etc... all of that will add up REAL quick. So the bottom line is you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

I'm not trying to stir up shit here, but suggesting dude shoot it in a home garage is a terrible idea. I wont even get into the neighbors and what they will think when you start blowing overspray out of your garage.

Terrible idea.

ps: OP never mentioned how much he paid. I'm guessing 2-3k. OP, care to share?

[zerodameaon]

My favorite thing is when people say "When it goes bad I just peel it off." Yeah good luck with that. "But they showed be how easy it comes off." Sure they did on a perfect demonstration panel with enough coats on because its all setup to sell you the product.

[andisan]

How much does a job like that cost??

Cheaper than a paint job??

If people are doing it then I assume it has to be

I paid $3500 for my paint job which if I would do it now I would think twice about it, with a family and all

I think it's a gamble with all those company's starting those new methods of paint jobs or just lazy managers/owners that approve all that job and present it to the customers

[turboshoebox]

You think he knew it was a shitty shop? likely not. Wouldn't anyone avoid a KNOWN shitty shop?

Jesus, what the hell crawled up your ass?

If you set up right, there's nothing wrong with a garage job (for the most part). I've seen numerous successful results. Including my own.

First clue it sucked was it was a plastidip shop....

[KiLLeR2001]

Dipping an entire car sounds like one of the worst ideas I've heard in awhile. If I was looking to do a temporary change that doesn't look like complete dog ass I'd go with a good quality wrap job. If you desire something permanent or long-lasting, a real paint job by professionals is the only solution.

Lets review: Paint > Wrap > PlastiCrap

[Hoffman5982]

i just watched your video about the quality issues, what the fuck were you honestly expecting?

Well, for starters, when he requested and paid for them to repair his wing, and they confirmed it as being fixed, I think he expected, at the very least, for the wing to be fixed. But maybe that just makes too much sense...

Did you actually watch the videos? Shit masking job? There were parts where white was visible, there were parts where paint shouldn't have been(ie the hood vents), and there were giant ass runs in the paint. Shitty plasti dip or not, if you're a professional or even mediocre paint business, you should avoid those issues at the very least. If it happens, because mistakes do happen, it shouldn't be a problem for them to sand it back smooth and respray that section before laying the clear down.

You guys are a bunch of fucking assholes. OP came here to warn others. He didn't have to do that, but he did it to help. Don't like plastidip? Get the fuck over it. It isn't your car or your money. Even with the shit dip job that car looks significantly better than most or your heaps of dog shit you call a car.

[lunchmeat]

I don't get the plastdip thing, but to me that's irrelevant. All I see is a "pro" shop that gave piss poor service.

[BoostyMcZface]

ughhhh plastidip. this is why I feel doing it right the first time pays off in the end. sad to see, but WHY pay a shop to dip your whole car? it had to have been a few grand, which is around the same price as a wrap. like others said, if you expect a body shop perfect job that looks like paint, you're gonna be disappointed. this is ricey crap. not meant to look flawless. might as well paint it however you wanted in the first place, now that you'll need it.

sure the shop is partly responsible, but you also should have done your research or gone with a higher quality route instead of the cheapest.

[KAT-PWR]

Well, for starters, when he requested and paid for them to repair his wing, and they confirmed it as being fixed, I think he expected, at the very least, for the wing to be fixed. But maybe that just makes too much sense...

Did you actually watch the videos? Shit masking job? There were parts where white was visible, there were parts where paint shouldn't have been(ie the hood vents), and there were giant ass runs in the paint. Shitty plasti dip or not, if you're a professional or even mediocre paint business, you should avoid those issues at the very least. If it happens, because mistakes do happen, it shouldn't be a problem for them to sand it back smooth and respray that section before laying the clear down.

You guys are a bunch of fucking assholes. OP came here to warn others. He didn't have to do that, but he did it to help. Don't like plastidip? Get the fuck over it. It isn't your car or your money. Even with the shit dip job that car looks significantly better than most or your heaps of dog shit you call a car.
Plasti dip doesn't work like that

[KiLLeR2001]

You guys are a bunch of fucking assholes. OP came here to warn others. He didn't have to do that, but he did it to help. Don't like plastidip? Get the fuck over it. It isn't your car or your money. Even with the shit dip job that car looks significantly better than most or your heaps of dog shit you call a car.

Sorry but shit painting product like PlastiCrap is going to promote shitty prep work. Unless you are paying around the same amount as a real paint job, why would these shops waste their time? Go to a real paint shop and ask them to PlastiDip your entire car they will laugh at you and tell you to get the fuck out.

I guess it really boils down to how much was paid for this service. I mean, it has the appearance of a $400 Maaco job.

[wkpainter]

We aren't assholes for not appreciating his "warning". None of us are dumb enough to want plastidip on our cars. There is a reason this forum doesn't have a "plastidip" thread... It has a "doing it wrong" thread already.

I'm not sorry or put off that zilvia doesn't sugar coat anything. We are trying to be as straight forward as possible so it gets through peoples F'ing heads. When you STOP READ CONSIDER what we are saying, you will REALIZE we are actually helping. We aren't going to waste time dancing around the fact that stupid decisions are stupid.

[Hoffman5982]

Sorry but shit painting product like PlastiCrap is going to promote shitty prep work. Unless you are paying around the same amount as a real paint job, why would these shops waste their time? Go to a real paint shop and ask them to PlastiDip your entire car they will laugh at you and tell you to get the fuck out.

I guess it really boils down to how much was paid for this service. I mean, it has the appearance of a $400 Maaco job.

Again, he paid to have his wing repaired and they didn't even try to repair it. And ok, I can agree with the shit prep work. But did you see those runs? I'm terrible at body work but even my shit doesn't have runs like that, no matter how much I'm rushing the job. Someone who's job it is to paint cars, plasti dip or actual paint, should be capable of not having runs like that.

Wkpainter, I never asked anyone to sugar coat anythinf, maybe you should learn to read. I simply said to get the fuck over this guy choosing to use plasti dip. Look at his car. Think about the fact that he spent probably upwards of $3k on this. He didn't do it because he'said broke. He had his reasons. I've seen plenty of people choose this route because they want to do a different color/theme every year and this is more cost effective, and easier when the time to change comes, than an actual paint job. Regardless of how you feel about plasti dip, and please pay attention to the word regardless because it means your opinion is fucking irrelevant, a shop presenting themselves as professionals giving him the car back in the condition they did is unacceptable. Period.

[Dman II-40]

Funny that most 240sx owners here are against plasti dip. I can't justify paying $3000 minimum for a paint job on a car worth $5000 max. On a 370z, that's a different story. To each their own. I will be dipping my car eventually, only $300 for the full kit and I can change it every year for about $100 if I want to. Will it be perfect? No, but I'm not trying to win awards just cover my oxidized and flaking crap clear coat that Nissan used in the mid 90s.

[Dman II-40]

Regardless of how you feel about plasti dip, and please pay attention to the word regardless because it means your opinion is fucking irrelevant, a shop presenting themselves as professionals giving him the car back in the condition they did is unacceptable. Period.

Agreed, it's not about the dip, it's that they did a shit job. If he paid for a paint job and it came out like shit everyone would just be like, "Dang, that sucks. Thanks for letting us know that place sucks."

[theStig880]

Funny that most 240sx owners here are against plasti dip. I can't justify paying $3000 minimum for a paint job on a car worth $5000 max. On a 370z, that's a different story. To each their own. I will be dipping my car eventually, only $300 for the full kit and I can change it every year for about $100 if I want to. Will it be perfect? No, but I'm not trying to win awards just cover my oxidized and flaking crap clear coat that Nissan used in the mid 90s.

I hate the argument "I wont do nice things to my car, because my car is worth $xxxx KBB". Why even bother doing anything to it? Isnt the point to make the car nicer than you started? You add value to it by doing quality changes. To me it just seems like something people say when they realize that modifying cars is an expensive fucking hobby that they can't do right but they can fuck up a car for cheap and get the same insta likes.

[tricky_ab]

Funny that most 240sx owners here are against plasti dip. I can't justify paying $3000 minimum for a paint job on a car worth $5000 max. On a 370z, that's a different story. To each their own. I will be dipping my car eventually, only $300 for the full kit and I can change it every year for about $100 if I want to. Will it be perfect? No, but I'm not trying to win awards just cover my oxidized and flaking crap clear coat that Nissan used in the mid 90s.

http://i.imgur.com/LgPZ7.gif

[Dman II-40]

I hate the argument "I wont do nice things to my car, because my car is worth $xxxx KBB". Why even bother doing anything to it? Isnt the point to make the car nicer than you started? You add value to it by doing quality changes. To me it just seems like something people say when they realize that modifying cars is an expensive fucking hobby that they can't do right but they can fuck up a car for cheap and get the same insta likes.

I upgrade my car when a part needs to be replaced so I try to not spend a lot of money on it.....so that's just me maybe. The cool thing about modding cars is you can do it the way you want to. Just because something isn't of popular opinion who cares. They aren't spending your money to do it and it's their car.... If they don't do something the way you like it that doesn't make it wrong, it's just your opinion.

[KAT-PWR]

Atleast you know your car will look shitty 100% of the time, so you won't need to worry.

But if your sole purpose is only driving the car, nothing more, more power to ya.

[zerodameaon]

Atleast you know your car will look shitty 100% of the time, so you won't need to worry.

But if your sole purpose is only driving the car, nothing more, more power to ya.

That's exactly the same thing I am hearing.

[BossHogg]

Dips and wraps look like shit almost always lol. Also, its easy to paint in a garage if you know what you're doing. Only a non experienced person wouldn't be able to paint in a garage in a smart manner. Is it easier in a booth, well fuck yea. Common sense. But any painter can paint in a garage easy. My uncle has been a bodyman/painter for 30+ years. Have done many many many side jobs in the garage. Were not talking about joe blow repairs either, full custom paint. Kandy, pearls etc. It's not rocket science and quite simple. Just be smart about it.

[scottie]

I upgrade my car when a part needs to be replaced so I try to not spend a lot of money on it.....so that's just me maybe. The cool thing about modding cars is you can do it the way you want to. Just because something isn't of popular opinion who cares. They aren't spending your money to do it and it's their car.... If they don't do something the way you like it that doesn't make it wrong, it's just your opinion.

It's not an opinion when it's the truth. There is a right and a wrong way. Baseline is what OEMs provide. Even when their bottom line is being pushed by the bean counters, they won't touch Plasti Dip or the like. Let that sink in. So you can either do it right or use excuses to make it feel better when you do it wrong.

[Hoffman5982]

You fucking idiots are missing the entire point here. His car did not turn out the way it did because of plasti dip. Try to comprehend that extremely simple concept. If the person who paint this car used actual paint, it still would have turned out like shit. Let THAT sink in. The most expensive paint in the world would have still resulted in OP's car looking as bad as it does because the work was rushed and half assed and the person doing the work possesses little to no skill. In fact, if "real paint" HAD been used, fixing this shotty work would have been tremendously more difficult.

You guys are so pathetically closed minded to see past your "I don't like plasti dip so I'm gonna cry about it" mentality.

[Matej]

You fucking idiots are missing the entire point here. His car did not turn out the way it did because of plasti dip. Try to comprehend that extremely simple concept. If the person who paint this car used actual paint, it still would have turned out like shit. Let THAT sink in. The most expensive paint in the world would have still resulted in OP's car looking as bad as it does because the work was rushed and half assed and the person doing the work possesses little to no skill. In fact, if "real paint" HAD been used, fixing this shotty work would have been tremendously more difficult.

You guys are so pathetically closed minded to see past your "I don't like plasti dip so I'm gonna cry about it" mentality.
Plastidip sucks.

[CamryOnBronze]

It looks good enough for Instagram screen resolution in the photo of it, which I would imagine is typically plenty nice for most of the kids out there plastidipping their cars these days.

OP, sorry to see this happened. Best of luck with restoring the car.

[OBEEWON]

I like that front bumper on the Z.

Hoffman right though. Y'all dumb.

[scottie]

You fucking idiots are missing the entire point here. His car did not turn out the way it did because of plasti dip. Try to comprehend that extremely simple concept. If the person who paint this car used actual paint, it still would have turned out like shit. Let THAT sink in. The most expensive paint in the world would have still resulted in OP's car looking as bad as it does because the work was rushed and half assed and the person doing the work possesses little to no skill. In fact, if "real paint" HAD been used, fixing this shotty work would have been tremendously more difficult.

You guys are so pathetically closed minded to see past your "I don't like plasti dip so I'm gonna cry about it" mentality.


Until we hear both sides to the story, all one can honestly do is chastise the decision to 'Dip Yo Ride Bruh'. One thing I have learned reading/researching horror stories is that there is always two sides to the story and you have to take a little from both to form a conclusion. I agree I would not personally allow my business to deliver a finished car like this, BUT I also would not take on a project where the owner wanted to bargain. I have seen shops put out uncommonly bad work, owner was displeased and after full disclosure the vehicle owner had agreed to low labor hours, agreed to or provided inferior products for shop to use and a 'not to exceed number at all cost'. Some shops are willing to do this to turn a quick small profit to pay the electric bill where as others will not because ultimately their name is attached to it.
So until a representative of the business in question enlightens us to their side of the story, this is really a moot point.

[JM216S14]

You fucking idiots are missing the entire point here. His car did not turn out the way it did because of plasti dip. Try to comprehend that extremely simple concept. If the person who paint this car used actual paint, it still would have turned out like shit. Let THAT sink in. The most expensive paint in the world would have still resulted in OP's car looking as bad as it does because the work was rushed and half assed and the person doing the work possesses little to no skill. In fact, if "real paint" HAD been used, fixing this shotty work would have been tremendously more difficult.

You guys are so pathetically closed minded to see past your "I don't like plasti dip so I'm gonna cry about it" mentality.


Yes it turned out shitty because it was plasti-dip not paint.. quit trying to defend plasti-dip it sucks and the only place it belongs is on bro dozers

[STR8 H8N]

back in my day son we had money to paint our cars

http://i.imgur.com/AyXX9.jpg

[///Maestro]

What the hell ever happened to painting ur car with um...paint

Well...my thought behind the dip was to paint the entire car for the same price as it would cost to paint just the new panels. And I've done a lot of research on it and it seemed like a great alternative to wrap and paint.

this x100000...

It was a mistake and I'll admit it....But I certainly didn't deserve to receive my car back the way I did.

You could always take them to small claims court, if you have documented the condition of the car before you gave it to them.


Take em to court.
Learn your lesson about cheaping out.
Goodluck


Already taking this guy to court.


It's a hard lesson to learn with these wrap/dip products. But they aren't paint, and when they wear out don't expect them to come off without damage. Your car will look nice with a good paint job thankfully.

They aren't supposed to come off without any damage? The whole point of Dip/autoflex is to remove it just like wrap. This guy didn't spray thick enough so he went real close with the power washer to take the dip off.

I don't understand the hate for this guy choosing to go with something else besides paint. The technology is there but the service was shit. If it wasn't for the imperfections it would look fine. I wouldn't do it if it was me but I can understand why someone would.

Correct, if it was done correctly, it would have came out amazing. Unfortunately, I got unlucky...

No it never looks good imperfections or not. Its a total fuckboi trend.

Nice

The texture and finish of plasti dip never compares to a properly painted piece. In the off season I'll plasti dip wheels for people and I've done quite a lot. Even my best jobs do not compare to even my mediocre paint jobs.
Why do you think plasti dip is trying to be more and more like paint?
There is a reason they're trying to spray a product more like real clear coat over the plasti dip surface.... And use an HVLP gun now.

Reasons to plasti dip
1. Doing accents because you're not sure if you will like the look and don't want to pony up the cash, after a short period you should know if you like the look, remove the dip, and commit to paint.
2. Lease car you know you're not going to keep but want to add some "flair" to it that you can remove before returning the car.

I'd take wrap over dip, at least wrap is a uniform surface and imperfections are easy to notice upon getting your car back.

You'd be surprised with the outcome of some of these autoflexed cars. The cars I saw in person are what sold me on the idea. Looks exactly like paint and one would never be able to tell the difference. Unfortunately these guys seemed like they were legitimate and apparently they weren't. With that said, they painted my buddy's 2015 mustang and it came out pretty good, a lot better than my car. I have no doubt in my mind that two different people sprayed our cars. The one who did mine was obviously a complete rookie.

about the color change, you can never be sure what spraying chemicals on paint and leaving them there will do. who knows what the hell is in this shit they sprayed on this car and ruined the finish.

There was no disclaimer or any notification of this. A company offering this service should know what may/maynot happen with the product/services they offer. If I had known this was going to happen, I wouldn't think twice about not going there.

to be fair...there are some legitimate business out there dipping cars with proper tools and skills.

i.e. pearls and pigments in Houston, TX.

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+1 There are some amazing cars that are autoflexed, as I've said earlier. This company did a few GTR's and in pictures, they did great. Unfortunately AFTER my whole fiasco, I found out that the GTR's came out like shiit just like my car did.

Yikes. My suggestion:

-Take out 1500$ of bank account

-Buy gun, equipment, materials, sealer, base and clear

-Paint your own car in garage

-Wet sand for days

Now you're 10000000x better off.

no.

What the fuck is wrong with you guys. Fuckin rednecks. You dont paint a car in a garage, you take it to a body shop. You know, spray booth, employees, filtration systems, etc. You idiots are making suggestions that will continue to make his car worse and worse

Do yourself a favor, consider making life easier on yourself. You already made a bad decision by having this shit-show of a shop spray dip onto your car. Fortunately, that stuff shouldnt be too bad to remove. However, you can make life even easier by getting rid of that silly ass wing and those cheap aftermarket bumper/fenders/hood.

Your lucky that your car is new and parts are readily available. Order a new OEM bumper, fenders, hood, and just ditch all that garbage you've acquired - its not worth a damn anyway, cheapass fiberglass shit. Now you have fresh new body panels that you can repaint. If you want OEM pearl, fine, but at this point you can probably save a few bucks going with a solid white. You dont want to extreme of a color change - you want to stay within the same range of paint as what the car was originally painted. This way, rock chips and other defects wont be so noticeable.

Do yourself a favor and use this as a learning experience of what NOT to do: avoid shitty dip products, avoid shitty shops, and avoid installing cheap ass aftermarket aero. This may come off as harsh but trust me, you need to move past this fast and furious bullshit.

1. The only after market stuff I have is the hood, wing, and fenders which are very expensive and fitment is spot on. Wing is life doe and that isn't coming off. Everything else is OEM or OEM Nismo...
2. As I've stated earlier, I've seen autoflex come out better than some paint jobs.
3. IF I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, I WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT
4. Cheap ass aftermarket aero? This isn't a 240 my friend, this aero is expensive.
5. The point of this post is to warn any other people looking into this product/company. I will bet at LEAST 50% of people that saw this post have considered this product.

You think he knew it was a shitty shop? likely not. Wouldn't anyone avoid a KNOWN shitty shop?

Jesus, what the hell crawled up your ass?

If you set up right, there's nothing wrong with a garage job (for the most part). I've seen numerous successful results. Including my own.

+1, I had no idea this was the outcome that was going to happen.

While I do agree that this is a feasible option, especially for older cars, I struggle to agree that it is the right option for a 370z with a OEM Pearl job. You would be hard pressed to buy the gun and compressor for that much much less pearl paint. Even a garage job needs drop cloths and some kind of air filtration system at the very least or you will have some imperfections.


OP, take all the blue crap off, clean everything. Talk to a shop and remove everything in prep for paint, it will help for the total cost. That would be my suggestion.

If you need a paint recommendation, go to Cars and Coffee, find the nicest looking car and ask who his detailer is. Your hypercar detailers can give you a long list of reputable shops in the surrounding area.

The car will be getting wrapped by the best wrap shop in NJ. Don't care too much about paint now that the car will be getting some track time.

i just watched your video about the quality issues, what the fuck were you honestly expecting? you are seriously going to bitch about orange peel and some slight masking imperfections, the problem here is you decided to be fucking cheap and get some hack bullshit on your car and except a show car paint job.

Excuse me? You pay to get a service done right. I don't care if it's 5 dollars or 5,000. If they are promising you a certain kind of finish, you better believe I'm expecting what they are promising. To top it all off, not only did I not get the finish I wanted, but they ruined other parts of my car.

I'm curious as to how much this cost you initially. When I was pretty young, I had a car painted at Maaco and it was worse than this. Lesson learned there. I wouldn't have expected much better from plastidipping a car no matter who does it. Now what really sucks is to what happened to the paint when removed. Thats what I would be freaking out about.

I was supposed to be "sponsored" by them and they gave me a price which is about half of what a wrap job would cost.. what a great sponsor! LOL

A stupid suggestion crawled up my ass. When I hear "shoot it in your garage and wet sand for days" - it makes no fucking sense. Is wet sanding supposed to take out hair, insects, and other random trash that ends up in the paint? Wet sanding will eliminate orange peel, thats it. Then you will still need to polish. Good luck polishing that turd. A good paint job requires MINIMAL color sanding. Besides the fact that the costs of good HVLP guns, good paint & supplies, a filtration system, etc... all of that will add up REAL quick. So the bottom line is you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

I'm not trying to stir up shit here, but suggesting dude shoot it in a home garage is a terrible idea. I wont even get into the neighbors and what they will think when you start blowing overspray out of your garage.

Terrible idea.

ps: OP never mentioned how much he paid. I'm guessing 2-3k. OP, care to share?

No way less than 2-3k. I did get a full refund tho. (after about 2 weeks of waiting)

My favorite thing is when people say "When it goes bad I just peel it off." Yeah good luck with that. "But they showed be how easy it comes off." Sure they did on a perfect demonstration panel with enough coats on because its all setup to sell you the product.

I've seen cars get peeled off. It truly is supposed to come off seamlessly...but ONLY when the job was done RIGHT and sprayed with enough coats.

Dipping an entire car sounds like one of the worst ideas I've heard in awhile. If I was looking to do a temporary change that doesn't look like complete dog ass I'd go with a good quality wrap job. If you desire something permanent or long-lasting, a real paint job by professionals is the only solution.

Lets review: Paint > Wrap > PlastiCrap

Again, you're not knowledgeable of what you're talking about so you don't know the possible outcomes with autoflex.

Well, for starters, when he requested and paid for them to repair his wing, and they confirmed it as being fixed, I think he expected, at the very least, for the wing to be fixed. But maybe that just makes too much sense...

Did you actually watch the videos? Shit masking job? There were parts where white was visible, there were parts where paint shouldn't have been(ie the hood vents), and there were giant ass runs in the paint. Shitty plasti dip or not, if you're a professional or even mediocre paint business, you should avoid those issues at the very least. If it happens, because mistakes do happen, it shouldn't be a problem for them to sand it back smooth and respray that section before laying the clear down.

You guys are a bunch of fucking assholes. OP came here to warn others. He didn't have to do that, but he did it to help. Don't like plastidip? Get the fuck over it. It isn't your car or your money. Even with the shit dip job that car looks significantly better than most or your heaps of dog shit you call a car.

Thank you...Seriously, thank you. You hit the nail on the head.

ughhhh plastidip. this is why I feel doing it right the first time pays off in the end. sad to see, but WHY pay a shop to dip your whole car? it had to have been a few grand, which is around the same price as a wrap. like others said, if you expect a body shop perfect job that looks like paint, you're gonna be disappointed. this is ricey crap. not meant to look flawless. might as well paint it however you wanted in the first place, now that you'll need it.

sure the shop is partly responsible, but you also should have done your research or gone with a higher quality route instead of the cheapest.

Price was significantly lower than wrap. I did my research...they actually did a good job on the few cars I saw. Unfortunately AFTER I endured the hell I went through, I saw the rest of the cars they ruined.

Sorry but shit painting product like PlastiCrap is going to promote shitty prep work. Unless you are paying around the same amount as a real paint job, why would these shops waste their time? Go to a real paint shop and ask them to PlastiDip your entire car they will laugh at you and tell you to get the fuck out.

I guess it really boils down to how much was paid for this service. I mean, it has the appearance of a $400 Maaco job.

Again - You have 0 knowledge of the product and are posting in this thread for all the wrong reasons.

We aren't assholes for not appreciating his "warning". None of us are dumb enough to want plastidip on our cars. There is a reason this forum doesn't have a "plastidip" thread... It has a "doing it wrong" thread already.

I'm not sorry or put off that zilvia doesn't sugar coat anything. We are trying to be as straight forward as possible so it gets through peoples F'ing heads. When you STOP READ CONSIDER what we are saying, you will REALIZE we are actually helping. We aren't going to waste time dancing around the fact that stupid decisions are stupid.

You actually aren't helping. I simply posted my experience with this company so no fellow car enthusiast goes through what I did. I've posted this same exact post in other forums and the responses I've received in this forum are probably the worst and most uneducated.

Again, he paid to have his wing repaired and they didn't even try to repair it. And ok, I can agree with the shit prep work. But did you see those runs? I'm terrible at body work but even my shit doesn't have runs like that, no matter how much I'm rushing the job. Someone who's job it is to paint cars, plasti dip or actual paint, should be capable of not having runs like that.

Wkpainter, I never asked anyone to sugar coat anythinf, maybe you should learn to read. I simply said to get the fuck over this guy choosing to use plasti dip. Look at his car. Think about the fact that he spent probably upwards of $3k on this. He didn't do it because he'said broke. He had his reasons. I've seen plenty of people choose this route because they want to do a different color/theme every year and this is more cost effective, and easier when the time to change comes, than an actual paint job. Regardless of how you feel about plasti dip, and please pay attention to the word regardless because it means your opinion is fucking irrelevant, a shop presenting themselves as professionals giving him the car back in the condition they did is unacceptable. Period.

Thank you. Just to get the wing, hood, front and rear (OEM nismo) bumpers was very expensive. I needed an alternative to wrap because wrap had a VERY long wait time before I could schedule my appointment. I waited a little less than a month for my appointment for the dip, so you can imagine how long the wait was for the wrap shop. I honestly thought that DipOne was the best of the best in terms of dip - which Is why I went there. Obivously it was a mistake.

Funny that most 240sx owners here are against plasti dip. I can't justify paying $3000 minimum for a paint job on a car worth $5000 max. On a 370z, that's a different story. To each their own. I will be dipping my car eventually, only $300 for the full kit and I can change it every year for about $100 if I want to. Will it be perfect? No, but I'm not trying to win awards just cover my oxidized and flaking crap clear coat that Nissan used in the mid 90s.

I recommend not doing this. If you have a project car and you're not too worried about the paint, I would buy a paint gun and learn how to paint by trial and error. Of course, I would never do this on a 370z for obvious reasons.

I hate the argument "I wont do nice things to my car, because my car is worth $xxxx KBB". Why even bother doing anything to it? Isnt the point to make the car nicer than you started? You add value to it by doing quality changes. To me it just seems like something people say when they realize that modifying cars is an expensive fucking hobby that they can't do right but they can fuck up a car for cheap and get the same insta likes.

I'm really not worried about my kbb value or overall value of my car because I know I'm going to keep this thing for a very long time. With that said, I just can't justify painting(real paint) the 370z myself because I know how much hard work it is. I do not have time for that.

Dips and wraps look like shit almost always lol. Also, its easy to paint in a garage if you know what you're doing. Only a non experienced person wouldn't be able to paint in a garage in a smart manner. Is it easier in a booth, well fuck yea. Common sense. But any painter can paint in a garage easy. My uncle has been a bodyman/painter for 30+ years. Have done many many many side jobs in the garage. Were not talking about joe blow repairs either, full custom paint. Kandy, pearls etc. It's not rocket science and quite simple. Just be smart about it.

Wrong. Wrap and dip sometimes (use that term loosely) look WAY better than some paint jobs I've seen. And second, I truly think you have no idea what's involved in paint because "knowing" or "seeing" your uncle do it is completely different than knowing HOW he actually does it. After 30 years, one can assume that technique comes second nature.

You fucking idiots are missing the entire point here. His car did not turn out the way it did because of plasti dip. Try to comprehend that extremely simple concept. If the person who paint this car used actual paint, it still would have turned out like shit. Let THAT sink in. The most expensive paint in the world would have still resulted in OP's car looking as bad as it does because the work was rushed and half assed and the person doing the work possesses little to no skill. In fact, if "real paint" HAD been used, fixing this shotty work would have been tremendously more difficult.

You guys are so pathetically closed minded to see past your "I don't like plasti dip so I'm gonna cry about it" mentality.

Agreed. Thank you for understanding


Look guys, I like to troll as much as the next guy, but in the end, that's not the reason why I created this thread. I took my time to be as detailed as I could be so that you could see where I'm coming from and my experience with DipOne.
Picture this - You see a few cars that the shop did and they came out great. They quote you for, let's say, half of the normal cost. They promise you "showroom finish" and lift your expectations. While this was all in my head, the only negative thing I thought was "it's only X amount of dollars, and it can always come off easily." The cash price was not nearly as much as some of you think. I was not worried about that.

The point here is this:
-I paid for a service which was "guaranteeing" me certain outcomes.
-That level of service was not achieved.
-Once the paint was removed, the car was NOT returned to me in the state in which it was given to the shop. This includes several different area's of damage to the car.
-I was not aware, told, or warned that any of this would happen.
-The DIP was not the problem. The problem was the WORK that was done. If I went to a different shop and actually got it done right, 99% of you would have a completely different outlook on Dip.

In a nutshell, Dip looks great when applied right. It wasn't applied right to my car. It was a mistake going there, but who knew? Heed my warning and just stay away from dip shops all together. The car will be fixed and wrapped soon.

[KAT-PWR]

You're lying to yourself saying that you can't tell the difference between paint and dip.

Dip looks okay for a short period of time.

[///Maestro]

You're lying to yourself saying that you can't tell the difference between paint and dip.

Dip looks okay for a short period of time.

Then you haven't seen a properly done autoflexed car.

[JM216S14]

Then you haven't seen a properly done autoflexed car.

You're right none of us have, because they don't exist.....

[///Maestro]

You're right none of us have, because they don't exist.....

:picardfp::picardfp::picardfp:

This forum never ceases to amaze me.

[economix]

Sorry about your experience and the douchers here who missed the point of the post. Thanks for the detailed explanation of issues.

[supersayianjim]

you're right none of us have, because they don't exist.....

boom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Highway Riding]

I have actually seen 1 or 2 decent plasti dip jobs but they were satin and none were gloss. 1 was on a Maserati Quatrop and the other a Audi rs 4 both done in Blue. Most i have seen looked textured and do look shitty. I would not use dip at all in an area that has 4 seasons.

[ixfxi]

Then you haven't seen a properly done autoflexed car.

You're right none of us have, because they don't exist.....

This forum never ceases to amaze me.

Thats because there are a handful of us on this forum that actually know the difference between what you got - and what we got.

For example, you say you paid "way less" than 2-3k. And in the end, you got exactly what you paid for.

Conversely, I paid about 2500 in materials and another 3500 in labor, and I got what you would call - a proper paint job. Interior, exterior, engine bay - the entire chassis. Not wrap, dip, or paint job that when you open your hood, you see one color, or when you remove interior panels - another color, etc, etc, etc...

I am not trying to be a dick here and call you out, but you are setting yourself up for looking like an ass. You have a nice NEW-ish car that you're fucking up because you're making bad decisions. Its great that you're posting your review here, but you can do that on yelp and in a million other places nowadays. Besides, most people on Zilvia are probably lucky to even have body panels, let alone matching painted panels.

Enjoy your Z, but I have a feeling that years from now you'll have regrets for doing things the way you did and will wish that you did them differently.

[zerodameaon]

You fucking idiots are missing the entire point here. His car did not turn out the way it did because of plasti dip. Try to comprehend that extremely simple concept. If the person who paint this car used actual paint, it still would have turned out like shit. Let THAT sink in. The most expensive paint in the world would have still resulted in OP's car looking as bad as it does because the work was rushed and half assed and the person doing the work possesses little to no skill. In fact, if "real paint" HAD been used, fixing this shotty work would have been tremendously more difficult.

You guys are so pathetically closed minded to see past your "I don't like plasti dip so I'm gonna cry about it" mentality.

Had he gotten this car painted by the same place sure it would have been just as fucked up. But even the best dip jobs can never stand up to a decent paint job. Had he taken it to a shop with a skilled person correcting all the issues you bet your ass the best paint world in the world would have looked better. One issue here though is if you get a fucked up dip/paint job from someone, what makes you think it will ever end up coming out ok after getting the fucked up dip/paint removed by the same person?

Thanks to the OP for posting his misfortune up here, hopefully this stops someone else from going this same route. That is one of the great powers of honest reviews.

[Matej]

Have you tried taking your 370Z to your local Nissan dealership and telling them that something is wrong with your paint?

[Dman II-40]

Have you tried taking your 370Z to your local Nissan dealership and telling them that something is wrong with your paint?

It would probably catch on fire....

Then who will fix it?

[KiLLeR2001]

Well there's clearly two separate issues here:

1) Shitty prep and spray work
2) Shitty autoflex product

This of course means you received a shitty job multiplied by the power of infinity, and it shows.

[ixfxi]

Had he gotten this car painted by the same place sure it would have been just as fucked up.

I dont get it though. He paid "way less" than 2-3k. So does that mean he paid 1k? For 1k, I think his car looks acceptable.

On one hand, we are looking for the deal of a century. I want my car to look awesome and only pay a fraction of what it costs for a proper job. And on the other hand, I want to bitch and complain about it because it wasnt done right.

This shop is no different than any other Maaco, Earl Scheib, etc. Simply put, the owner was just naive. Good luck in court though. By the time thats all said and done, hopefully you would have done more research and found a better shop. Preferably one that shoots paint.

[hellaslows13]

I'm curious as to how much this cost you initially. When I was pretty young, I had a car painted at Maaco and it was worse than this. Lesson learned there. I wouldn't have expected much better from plastidipping a car no matter who does it. Now what really sucks is to what happened to the paint when removed. Thats what I would be freaking out about.

I've actually had good results with Maaco on previous cars I didn't care too much about. It really varies from location to location. Had an e30 sprayed for $800 and it WAY better than I expected. No overspray or imperfections. You can't expect much from any paint job under $2000 if you are paying a shop to do it.

Paint > Dip, anyday.

[ixfxi]

I've actually had good results with Maaco on previous cars I didn't care too much about. It really varies from location to location. Had an e30 sprayed for $800 and it WAY better than I expected. No overspray or imperfections.

it came out WAY better than you expected because you are the demographic they cater to: someone who doesnt know better or expect much.

when you learn the differences between the different types of paint, the different methods of repair, and what it takes to properly paint a vehicle - you tend to look at things more critically. As opposed to "looks good enough for me."

Try color sanding some shitty single stage paint, let me know how that goes for you.
Try doing PDR on a panel that has a thick layer of bondo, good luck to you.

theres no quick/cheap paint job

[///Maestro]

It was skeptical at first for me as well. But If you're promised something is going to come out one way, without any negative repercussions, then why not try it?
It doesn't matter if I paid 5 dollars or 5,000, the job should have been done right and I've SEEN work done WAY better for the same price I paid.
Autoflex jobs go for 1500-2000, FYI.

This isn't my first rodeo with cars, I've modded several cars and know what real paint costs and what "good work" entails. This is a new product that I was willing to try. Obviously with lies and misinformation, mistakes were made, and it came out like shit. I'll stand by what I've said though: Some autoflexed cars look amazing.

Unfortunately some people in this thread still won't know the difference between regular dip and autoflex.

And quite frankly, I don't care about anyone trolling or attacking me about this issue. I didn't have to write this review, I chose to do it to help others.

My car will be getting wrapped, and it will be done by one of the best shops on the east coast.

[zerodameaon]

Unfortunately some people in this thread still won't know the difference between regular dip and autoflex.


We do know the difference, but at the end of the day it is still plastidip. There is a reason that a lot of the advertising cars for Autoflex are wet in the pictures or use colors like iridescent that make imperfections harder to spot.



https://www.reddit.com/r/plastidip/comments/4ppuwc/permanent_paint/

That is great.

[STR8 H8N]

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[driftsucky]

Dude, this sucks. I can't believe that you found a less expensive version of something that's already fairly and comparatively inexpensive and after it was all said and done, the end result was less than extraordinary. I am truly surprised by that happening in this particular situation.

So, I read that you said someone that dropped off their car after you picked it up before you. Can you hotlink us to their thread post, or post up the pictures of how horrible their car looks as well? I imagine that if the 11 days they held your car hostage was a rush job, then the less than that they had the other person's car had to be like super light speed rush. That person's car has to look HORRIBLE. Did you take pictures of all of the other cars that look horrible as well. I'd just like to see how much horrible work they put out. Reason being, there's power in numbers, and if you can get more examples of how horrible their work is, it goes much further in court...which is where you should DEFINITELY take these guys.

I'd contact BBB as well. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, they ruined your car. I'm not a professional body guy, but it looks like you only have 2 options at this point. You'd either have to wrap it, or paint it; both of which will accomplish almost the same thing you already did...just a more expensive version of it and hopefully a better version of it. And I'm not saying that as a dig to plasti-dip or it's less expensive alternative. I'm just hoping that they next place you go takes better care of your car and actually gets the job right. And, not being a body guy, I gotta imagine that if 11 days was a rush job with a something that doesn't take as much prep work as traditional paint, you'll probably be out of your car for a solid month for a guy to take their time and do it right....again...going off the 11 day rush job. When you do take these guys to court, I would also have them pay for a supplemental vehicle for the time your car will be down.

And I'm not sure how you paint over a crack in a wing, or any fiberglass part, for that matter, but, kudos to them for that. Amirite? I can't conceive painting over a crack without filling that crack first, but it seems like a cool idea I suppose. Get that thrown in there too. Or at least I would.

These guys suck. Friggin amateurs.

[KiLLeR2001]

This thread should be in the regional forums anyways since it pertains to a company in a particular area of the country, not with the product itself.

[///Maestro]

Autoflexed BMW (NOT DONE BY DIPONE)

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13521906_1025286204176046_5567060701374472346_n.jp g?oh=acce106f77c462c83b87af089202b580&oe=5809F670

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516658_1025286230842710_7088029044880961080_n.jp g?oh=9c6cc2a0708ba705d8cb1fafe5507e21&oe=57F6D145

It's tough to tell how well this actually came out because, in pictures, you can't see the nitty gritty details. But this looks absolutely fantastic, as well as blue 370z previously posted by a forum member here.

[ixfxi]

Autoflexed BMW (NOT DONE BY DIPONE)
It's tough to tell how well this actually came out because, in pictures, you can't see the nitty gritty details. But this looks absolutely fantastic, as well as blue 370z previously posted by a forum member here.

Dude, you are not doing anyone any favors by posting photos of dipped cars, or even painted cars online. The details just dont show. If you want to judge the outcome of a refinished car, do it in person - thats the only way to tell if it looks good or not.

You do realize that years ago, we had a thread on a car being painted with a paint roller? It was then color-sanded and polished and again, online, it looked OK.

This shit should be moved to regional

[///Maestro]

Dude, you are not doing anyone any favors by posting photos of dipped cars, or even painted cars online. The details just dont show. If you want to judge the outcome of a refinished car, do it in person - thats the only way to tell if it looks good or not.

You do realize that years ago, we had a thread on a car being painted with a paint roller? It was then color-sanded and polished and again, online, it looked OK.

This shit should be moved to regional

Just stop commenting?

[KAT-PWR]

Autoflexed BMW (NOT DONE BY DIPONE)

[IM://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13521906_1025286204176046_5567060701374472346_n.jp g?oh=acce106f77c462c83b87af089202b580&oe=5809F670[/IMG]

[://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516658_1025286230842710_7088029044880961080_n.jp g?oh=9c6cc2a0708ba705d8cb1fafe5507e21&oe=57F6D145[/IMG]

It's tough to tell how well this actually came out because, in pictures, you can't see the nitty gritty details. But this looks absolutely fantastic, as well as blue 370z previously posted by a forum member here.

You can see the reflection of the sun looks chunky as fuck. Dipped cars look good in photos..... Put a painted car near a dip job in real life not internet fantasy land and there is no comparison.

[STR8 H8N]

Dude, you are not doing anyone any favors by posting photos of dipped cars, or even painted cars online. The details just dont show. If you want to judge the outcome of a refinished car, do it in person - thats the only way to tell if it looks good or not.

You do realize that years ago, we had a thread on a car being painted with a paint roller? It was then color-sanded and polished and again, online, it looked OK.

This shit should be moved to regional

http://www.cartalk.com/blogs/craig-fitzgerald/how-paint-car-bucket-rust-oleum-and-roller

http://www.thesmokingtire.com/2012/how-to-paint-your-car-without-a-gun/

boom and boom

:naughty:

[JM216S14]

Dipped my car last night turned out pretty good

http://i66.tinypic.com/2vbpz83.jpg

[driftsucky]

I just went over to that Maaco thread because someone bumped it up. However, for 300 bux, it looks pretty decent over the internet. And there's people that have had their's on for a while now. Pretty neat option if you can get it.

[bluz370]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it DOES matter what you paid for it. I am assuming you paid 500-750 and the materials alone to do this cost around 400 dollars. It takes a good 20 hours to do this job right.


NOW.. this is a simple equation, and follows the adage of "you get what you pay for".


Materials - 400
Labor - 100-250
Labor/hr - 5-12.50


Now I don't know about you, but I don't want someone who is willing to provide a service for $5.00-10.00 dollars an hour doing a job like this on my car. I typically try to do this analysis for services so that I can make an educated decision.

[evomike]

Well, for starters, when he requested and paid for them to repair his wing, and they confirmed it as being fixed, I think he expected, at the very least, for the wing to be fixed. But maybe that just makes too much sense...

Did you actually watch the videos? Shit masking job? There were parts where white was visible, there were parts where paint shouldn't have been(ie the hood vents), and there were giant ass runs in the paint. Shitty plasti dip or not, if you're a professional or even mediocre paint business, you should avoid those issues at the very least. If it happens, because mistakes do happen, it shouldn't be a problem for them to sand it back smooth and respray that section before laying the clear down.

You guys are a bunch of fucking assholes. OP came here to warn others. He didn't have to do that, but he did it to help. Don't like plastidip? Get the fuck over it. It isn't your car or your money. Even with the shit dip job that car looks significantly better than most or your heaps of dog shit you call a car.

sounds like nobody here needs to be warned, he went to a hack shop and got a hack job. i would expect runs and poor masking from a shop like this because if they could spray without runs and precision mask they wouldnt be in some shit plasti dip shop.

[evomike]

Dude, you are not doing anyone any favors by posting photos of dipped cars, or even painted cars online. The details just dont show. If you want to judge the outcome of a refinished car, do it in person - thats the only way to tell if it looks good or not.

You do realize that years ago, we had a thread on a car being painted with a paint roller? It was then color-sanded and polished and again, online, it looked OK.

This shit should be moved to regional

the details show enough to see how peely that dip is, it probably looks no better than his when you get up on top of it.

[evomike]

Autoflexed BMW (NOT DONE BY DIPONE)

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13521906_1025286204176046_5567060701374472346_n.jp g?oh=acce106f77c462c83b87af089202b580&oe=5809F670

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516658_1025286230842710_7088029044880961080_n.jp g?oh=9c6cc2a0708ba705d8cb1fafe5507e21&oe=57F6D145

It's tough to tell how well this actually came out because, in pictures, you can't see the nitty gritty details. But this looks absolutely fantastic, as well as blue 370z previously posted by a forum member here.

this dip looks about the quality yours does, in these pics i see awful orange peel a ton of dry spots and im sure if i saw it in real life id see runs

[zerodameaon]

this dip looks about the quality yours does, in these pics i see awful orange peel a ton of dry spots and im sure if i saw it in real life id see runs

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Go to 3:20, you can see some issues right away.

[driftsucky]

Do you mean orange peal?

[zerodameaon]

Do you mean orange peal?

It is more then just orange peel. It is major imperfections and drips.

[KiLLeR2001]

It's hard for people to know what a good finish looks like when they've been dealing with mismatched spray painted panels their entire lives. I mean I get it, if you are trying to be Instagram famous and just want your shit spray bombed in plasticrap every year in a new color for the cheap, go for it. But don't sit here scouring the internet for a dip job that is comparable to a professional paint job...

[zerodameaon]

It's hard for people to know what a good finish looks like when they've been dealing with mismatched spray painted panels their entire lives. I mean I get it, if you are trying to be Instagram famous and just want your shit spray bombed in plasticrap every year in a new color for the cheap, go for it. But don't sit here scouring the internet for a dip job that is comparable to a professional paint job...


But that tool from DYC says its better then paint, why should I not believe some YouTube snake oil salesman?

[lunchmeat]

Ugh. That dude gives me the creeps. Looks like he'd be the personal space invader at the gym.

[Hoffman5982]

this dip looks about the quality yours does, in these pics i see awful orange peel a ton of dry spots and im sure if i saw it in real life id see runs

Your head is so far up your own ass you're re-eating your own food.

You can't see shit in those pictures, especially not a "ton" of dry spots.

[Matej]

That is a sick dip. Nice.

[evomike]

Your head is so far up your own ass you're re-eating your own food.

You can't see shit in those pictures, especially not a "ton" of dry spots.

You 100% can see quality imperfections in this photo, just because you can't pick it up doesn't mean I can't. I've been in the body shop business for 18 years spotting shit paint work comes easy. The hood is super perky in the first pic, you can see this when you look at the glare, and the truck is super dry especially around the liscense plate The BMW dip job looks like fucking trash.

[canibeat_morgan]

Well I guess this is a decent thread to pop my Zilvia cherry with. OP sorry to hear about the shitty experience. At the end of the day this stuff is still the same rubber in a rattle can that you buy at Home Depot, just done with a gun at a shop. As someone who wraps cars for a living I can't begin to tell you how many clients we have taken care of when it comes to stripping Plastidip off their cars and then doing a full color change with vinyl. Yeah, a solid paint job is the way to go, but if you are looking for something that is very damn close to a paint finish if done the right way as well as removable its hard to beat a professional wrap. You live and learn.

[STR8 H8N]

Sorry about your experience and the douchers here who missed the point of the post. Thanks for the detailed explanation of issues.

:picardfp::picardfp::picardfp:

[Jorgs_7]

What the fuck is wrong with you guys. Fuckin rednecks. You dont paint a car in a garage, you take it to a body shop. You know, spray booth, employees, filtration systems, etc. You idiots are making suggestions that will continue to make his car worse and worse

Do yourself a favor, consider making life easier on yourself. You already made a bad decision by having this shit-show of a shop spray dip onto your car. Fortunately, that stuff shouldnt be too bad to remove. However, you can make life even easier by getting rid of that silly ass wing and those cheap aftermarket bumper/fenders/hood.

Your lucky that your car is new and parts are readily available. Order a new OEM bumper, fenders, hood, and just ditch all that garbage you've acquired - its not worth a damn anyway, cheapass fiberglass shit. Now you have fresh new body panels that you can repaint. If you want OEM pearl, fine, but at this point you can probably save a few bucks going with a solid white. You dont want to extreme of a color change - you want to stay within the same range of paint as what the car was originally painted. This way, rock chips and other defects wont be so noticeable.

Do yourself a favor and use this as a learning experience of what NOT to do: avoid shitty dip products, avoid shitty shops, and avoid installing cheap ass aftermarket aero. This may come off as harsh but trust me, you need to move past this fast and furious bullshit.

Im just replying to show you what a proper garage set up can result BEFORE any cutting or buffing.

So, kindly piss off.

But I agree, I wouldn't garage-job a 30k 370z.


http://i.imgur.com/VMBwyO8.jpg