Help Mazworx Develop the VQ Platform

[hanzbrady]

Hey guys, I just wanted to open this thread to see what the community is wanting out of the VQ platform.

These engines are becoming cheap and abundant and we're trying to make the best parts possible for them.

So any part that you guys can think of from bolt-on to all out race tech let me hear 'em.

[KAT-PWR]

They sound like garbage in just about anything other than stock form.
Fix that

[Kylepaschke]

Better intake plenum for boosted setups... you know... like on Dave's engine

[slidewayz350]

I would like to have the vqhr developed more. You can find a lot of this for the DE but not the HR. There is a market out there for them if you check all the forums because the HR guys feel left out.

[PoorMans180SX]

An oil sump that doesn't hang below the crossmember on an S-chassis swap.

S-chassis swap headers that aren't mild steel and actually fit.

A proven coolant swirl pot design because they're a pain to bleed.

[hanzbrady]

Guys thank you so much for all of the feedback, and just to clarify we want to develop parts for both Z chassis and swaps!

[quickdiversion]

2 more cylinders!

[hanzbrady]

2 more cylinders!
VK may have been talked about here and there ;)

[quickdiversion]

I am in the process of the swap and it is not difficult just product support is low. I read about failed swaps all the time and people parting out started projects because they can't find the parts they need.

[hanzbrady]

I am in the process of the swap and it is not difficult just product support is low. I read about failed swaps all the time and people parting out started projects because they can't find the parts they need.

Well, what chassis are you swapping in to and what parts do you have trouble finding?

[quickdiversion]

Vk56de into 2004 g35. A flywheel that works with the stock crank pos trigger. I have the trans adapted to use the 56 bellhousing so the sensor is in the stock location. I need a 1 piece flywheel with trigger wheel for this. So I don't have to use a combo of the flexplate and vq flywheel.

A drive shaft for this engine placement with engine mounts so I don't have to have a custom driveshaft made for custom engine mounts.

[LoSt180]

Here on zilvia, I'm sure the only support requests you'll get are related to swaps. The HR engines are getting a LOT of development currently, they're a bit stronger and lend themselves to boost upgrades a lot better than the DE engines did. Edit: I'm probably thinking of the VHR, the HR was only around 2 years so I'd guess is getting over looked.

I've kicked around the idea of a VK56 in my G35 (it's got 200K+ miles and burning oil) but didn't find a whole lot of info. Admittedly, I've only done a quick cursory search to see if it was a viable option.

Looking at the trans swap thread, I might be interested in putting a CD0 trans in my S14 SR, but will wait and see how the shifter gets worked out, I don't want to cut the opening. Want the most stock like fitment possible.

[Kingtal0n]

what a terrible engine, any V6

You get twice the head-ache, everything I dislike about a V config, with 2 less cylinders? Automatic fail

boo on mazworx

i want to see ls stuff. drop the sr, rb, and every v6 configuration

solve the steam port for daily driver swaps that want to run both front and backs like the OEM engine provides without making a mess.
Mazworx Instant Steam Port Kit $39.99
$12 in materials I bet, well made worth it solutions for engines also found in OEM vehicles, not just swaps, who also have the same problems.

[hanzbrady]

what a terrible engine, any V6

You get twice the head-ache, everything I dislike about a V config, with 2 less cylinders? Automatic fail

boo on mazworx

i want to see ls stuff. drop the sr, rb, and every v6 configuration

solve the steam port for daily driver swaps that want to run both front and backs like the OEM engine provides without making a mess.
Mazworx Instant Steam Port Kit $39.99
$12 in materials I bet, well made worth it solutions for engines also found in OEM vehicles, not just swaps, who also have the same problems.

We are actually working on LS development as well, but note taken about the steam ports!

[quickdiversion]

I am not sure where I saw it, maybe collins, but there is almost a complete swap kit for the ls1. Mounts, oil pan, driveshaft, and other needed items.

The ls is a great swap and huge potential.
What I know from reading and talking to v8 swap guys, they are hungry for vk items because they want to keep the brand. They want to stay nissan.

[Nismo_sam]

I would love Mazworx to start making some VQ parts, personally I love the VQ.

[600supersport]

Maybe even just for mazworx to give the SR/KA an awd option from the infiniti setup with crossmember would be tempting.

[NiSilS14]

I'd like to see a LSx style front facing intake manifold that isn't stupid short with the intake runners. Maybe S-chassis swap bracket that utilizes the s-chassis eng mounts, if it's possible.

[future]

Some headers for the HR that aren't a million dollars and that actually make power throughout the powerband!

NA HR guys like me need more engine parts

[quickdiversion]

I'd like to see a LSx style front facing intake manifold that isn't stupid short with the intake runners. Maybe S-chassis swap bracket that utilizes the s-chassis eng mounts, if it's possible.

You do realize that you can't utilize one engine motor mounts on another motor. Even.if you use them. You need to adapt them, which is pointless cause you need na custom piece anyway then. So what's the point if you can make mounts instead.

[NiSilS14]

You do realize that you can't utilize one engine motor mounts on another motor. Even.if you use them. You need to adapt them, which is pointless cause you need na custom piece anyway then. So what's the point if you can make mounts instead.

Plenty of JZ mounting kits uses stock ka/sr mounting points, so why not with a vq35? The point would be to make use of various options we have for engine mounts that's already out there for s13s/14s. Having options is always nice.

[quickdiversion]

Plenty of JZ mounting kits uses stock ka/sr mounting points, so why not with a vq35? The point would be to make use of various options we have for engine mounts that's already out there for s13s/14s. Having options is always nice.

I'm not even going to fully read your post until you think about what you just said. What shape or orientation is a 1j or 2j to an sr20 or ka24 vs a vq or vq.

Now before you hurt yourself. Think about where in the engine bay is the most ideal location for the engine and think good and hard.

Don't respond if you don't know cause your digging a hole that has been started by many before you.

[NiSilS14]

I'm not even going to fully read your post until you think about what you just said. What shape or orientation is a 1j or 2j to an sr20 or ka24 vs a vq or vq.

Now before you hurt yourself. Think about where in the engine bay is the most ideal location for the engine and think good and hard.

Don't respond if you don't know cause your digging a hole that has been started by many before you.

Dude, I get it, but if it's possible then why not? If it can't done then great too. I could care less how you people cut it. You don't like it and some might. It's a idea, some ideas work, some won't. That's all it is right now, so get over yourself.

[quickdiversion]

It has nothing to do with what swaps I like or not. To each their own.

What we are talking about is the reason there are no adapted mounts and only full one piece mounts. Any inline engine swapped in the s13 or s14 or any other 90's Era platform is 20 years old.

I love inline engines. But all this shit was developed 10 years ago. So your re-inventing the wheel.

With the modern engines that people are swapping being a v style motor you can't use a huge bulky mount from an online engine. And then adapt it to a very engine. You buying mounts and an adaptor. Twice the money when you can buy one piece.

Also with one piece you can drop the engine as low as possible in the engine bay and as far back as possible for weight distribution.

I answered all your queations, reasons and future thoughts.

Using stock mounts to adapt and engine is pointless overpriced and under engineered.

[Highway Riding]

TT manifolds

[NiSilS14]

@quickdiversion

That's great, I'm glad you feel that way. If there's a reason for how it's done the way it is then it makes no difference really. No harm in reinventing the wheel, great things were made trying to better an existing product. OP wanted ideas so throw him the kitchen sink while we're at it.

[quickdiversion]

I have been in the 240/s13 game for 10 years in 2 countries. I have seen a great deal. And learned a real deal through different motors. I'm trying g to tell you why some things you won't see.

I know what the op asked for. I also know the op and mazworks are notorious for asking and never delivering. Giving delivery dates and never coming through with promises of parts and development.

Regardless how much we beg. The blow deadlines all time time and never really come through with each products they release.

So for them.
You need to keep it simple or you will sell you car before they even start development.

[Nissansota240]

A proven coolant swirl pot design because they're a pain to bleed.

This, such a pain in the ass to bleed the coolant in an s-schassis

[quickdiversion]

Just out of curiosity.
Have you lifted the nose opened the bleeder as it reaches temp to bleed the pressure?

[Green Arrow]

is quickdiversion corbic? Vq has made wards 10 best engines list ten yrs in a row. There definitely needs to be more development on these. Mazworx ftw! Plus chasebays and mckinney have the market cornered with crappy parts (not so much on chasebays anymore)..

[quickdiversion]

When and where did I say I didn't like the vq? Please show me my daily is a 1998 maxima, vq30 200k miles on it and a 5 speed.

I never said it was a bad engine.

[timandytimandy]

The problem I'm running into is the 03 g35 sedans use a different ecu than 04 and up sedans, g coupe and 350z. I'm interested in a plug and play harness that would allow me to use a z/g ecu on a 03 sedan and tune with Osiris.

[mewantkouki]

You guys have SR's taken care of. Still no love for the KA...

[hanzbrady]

You guys have SR's taken care of. Still no love for the KA...

Pretty much any service we offer for the SR we have for the KA.

[kashira kureijii]

What I know from reading and talking to v8 swap guys, they are hungry for vk items because they want to keep the brand. They want to stay nissan.
^+1

This might end up being the most viable option for you guys, There is a pretty large amount of VK's out there, many of them are very cheap and come in a bunch of nissan vehicles(as we all know).

It would be cool to have a common nissan v8 to swap into shit, I'm not going to be doing anything like that, but it seems like a good idea considering how many VK's there are out there. VH stuff is probably gonna get to rare and outdated soon, so this would be swag.

Stop the LS plague mang

[hanzbrady]

^+1

This might end up being the most viable option for you guys, There is a pretty large amount of VK's out there, many of them are very cheap and come in a bunch of nissan vehicles(as we all know).

It would be cool to have a common nissan v8 to swap into shit, I'm not going to be doing anything like that, but it seems like a good idea considering how many VK's there are out there. VH stuff is probably gonna get to rare and outdated soon, so this would be swag.

Stop the LS plague mang

It's been discussed, the issue is the size of the VK and people's backlash to instructions that include the words "cut" or "modify" as seen with the SRVQ kit. The reality is that the hood will never clear the intake and the only way to remedy that would be a >$1000 custom intake manifold or cutting the hood, if you wanted to stay with the factory hood of course.

[kashira kureijii]

It's been discussed, the issue is the size of the VK and people's backlash to instructions that include the words "cut" or "modify" as seen with the SRVQ kit. The reality is that the hood will never clear the intake and the only way to remedy that would be a >$1000 custom intake manifold or cutting the hood, if you wanted to stay with the factory hood of course.

hmmmm strange, the intake looks just like them LS intakes, you'd think it would fit.

Special footlong mazworx hood spacers maybe? lolz

[hanzbrady]

hmmmm strange, the intake looks just like them LS intakes, you'd think it would fit.

Special footlong mazworx hood spacers maybe? lolz

There's a VK S13 build thread on here called "Brickhouse VK56 S13 Build" I believe, and there you can see that it sits a little taller than the wiper cowl even on their custom mounts. I'm sure ou could space the hood to clear the back but that's not going to help with the intake pipe itself. The VK and LS have different angles at which the "V" opens. The VK angle is narrower therefore it's inhearently taller. The VQ has the same issue if you compare it to something like a ford 3.8 out of a mustang

[mewantkouki]

Pretty much any service we offer for the SR we have for the KA.

I'm talking about a race plenum, fuel rail, better oil pan, mechanically locked timing chain tensioners, etc. Not the xcessive cast aluminum junk we're forced to use because GOOD companies don't make any parts for the engine.

[quickdiversion]

There's a VK S13 build thread on here called "Brickhouse VK56 S13 Build" I believe, and there you can see that it sits a little taller than the wiper cowl even on their custom mounts. I'm sure ou could space the hood to clear the back but that's not going to help with the intake pipe itself. The VK and LS have different angles at which the "V" opens. The VK angle is narrower therefore it's inhearently taller. The VQ has the same issue if you compare it to something like a ford 3.8 out of a mustang


You are half right. The VK and vq are a different "v" angle. The VQ is the same as the LS. There are a 60" angle so the engine is more narrow. The VK as well as the VH are a 90* angle. This is what makes them so wide. Unfortunately this has nothing to do with why they intake sits so high. If you look and where the water outlets are coming out of the heads and through the top of the V it means you have to raise the height of the throttle body if you wish to keep it centered. Also let's not forget this was designed for a truck and low end torque so the runners are very long which all adds to the height. And in a truck it fits just fine :)

So it's all about making it fit for your application.

[Alisaihin]

You are half right. The VK and vq are a different "v" angle. The VQ is the same as the LS. There are a 60" angle so the engine is more narrow. The VK as well as the VH are a 90* angle. This is what makes them so wide. Unfortunately this has nothing to do with why they intake sits so high. If you look and where the water outlets are coming out of the heads and through the top of the V it means you have to raise the height of the throttle body if you wish to keep it centered. Also let's not forget this was designed for a truck and low end torque so the runners are very long which all adds to the height. And in a truck it fits just fine :)

So it's all about making it fit for your application.

Also, the LS engines are shorter height-wise thanks to the one thing that people tend to rip on them for:
Being Pushrod.

Pretty much any service we offer for the SR we have for the KA.
...I sometimes wish more KA24E parts existed, but alas, that's the thing with an obscure engine used for two years and is single slammin'...nobody wants it.

[kashira kureijii]

...I sometimes wish more KA24E parts existed, but alas, that's the thing with an obscure engine used for two years and is single slammin'...nobody wants it.

What good would that do, since every KA24E in existence has a blown headgasket?