Importing a silvia from the motherland

[gerardojdm]

Hello zilvia family, I plan on possibly importing a silvia from japan sometime this year myself. Yes i know there are many people that import them, but I want to do it myself. I am a licensed dealer in Atlanta, GA and I plan on being apart of the importing scene towards the end of the year. I would like to talk to people that have personally imported JDM cars under the 25 year law. Many people don't like sharing their secrets, but any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[zombiewolf513]

How to import a car to the US (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=importing+a+car)

[dizzariot]

Wants to open business. Asks everyone how to do said business. What a champ.

[gerardojdm]

I have my own used Car dealer business and it's been great bud. I'm here asking people who actually import cars to point me in the right direction. Don't be stupid


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[gerardojdm]

But it's all good. People you like that wake up to hate in the morning is what motivates me..


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[winter]

Well

Step 1) Have a lot of money
Step 2) Speak Japanese or Pay someone who speaks Japanese
Step 3) Don't deal with kids
Step 4) Have a lot of money
Step 5) Bunch of paperwork
Step 6) Be good at internets
Step 7) Sell car on internets
Step 8) Do a bunch of legal paperwork stuff (if you do wrong you will go to jail.)
Step 9) If you made it this far without going to jail, go back to Step 1

[gerardojdm]

Well

Step 1) Have a lot of money
Step 2) Speak Japanese or Pay someone who speaks Japanese
Step 3) Don't deal with kids
Step 4) Have a lot of money
Step 5) Bunch of paperwork
Step 6) Be good at internets
Step 7) Sell car on internets
Step 8) Do a bunch of legal paperwork stuff (if you do wrong you will go to jail.)
Step 9) If you made it this far without going to jail, go back to Step 1


I appreciate you not being an ass like the few other people. I have the funds, I just need someone to show me the ropes. I'm currently a licensed dealer so I'm familiar with the natural of this job. I plan on making a trip to Japan soon to meet people

[brndck]

lol this is like asking a little kid who EATS Trix and lucky charms, how to MAKE trix and lucky charms.

[S14kouki805]

How to import a car to the US (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=importing+a+car)

That was dope, how do you do that?

To the OP- good luck with your business venture, too bad I live in Cali where it's next to impossible to get a JDM car legal :picardfp:

[gerardojdm]

That was dope, how do you do that?



To the OP- good luck with your business venture, too bad I live in Cali where it's next to impossible to get a JDM car legal :picardfp:



Haha yea I laughed with the link. I searched on Google, but I need to talk to people that have done it. Thanks, I will need all the luck possible.

[JM216S14]

There is a ton of good people to talk to about importing, one I can think of in particular

[KAT-PWR]

Yeah man just contact Tony, super nice guy, he can break down the whole process, its really not that bad.

[JM216S14]

Yeah man just contact Tony, super nice guy, he can break down the whole process, its really not that bad.

nahhh I was thinking more of

http://www.edmdroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sung-kang-furious-6.jpg

[g35gabby]

You would need boots on the ground over there and someone who you can trust with your $ to purchase the car to you and then handle all of the shipping and exporting process. if you are bent on doing it yourself instead of contacting any of the 1000 or so importers that have been around and already crowd out the market or one of the fly by night guys you are better off dealing with our neighbors to the north. You speak their language, you could feasibly drive up there and pick it up on a trailer, and less likely to get scammed. (not that it cant happen, but their isn't an ocean between the two of you at least)

if you genuinely wanted to do that as a business there is plenty to read out there and plenty of laws you need to understand you are fixing to be 2+ years behind everyone already in business and competing with a hundreds of kids who drive things across the boarder to flip cars. the market in that aspect is beyond overwhelmed and a complete waste of time IMO.

[dizzariot]

...and it's guys like you that motivate me to get my dealer's license while I'm stationed there so I can sell cars for reasonable prices. Good luck trying to copy and paste someone's business model. I'm sure they'd love to help you become their competition lol.

"Hey Starbucks can you tell me how to get the same coffee as you so I can sell it at the same time as you for competitive prices? If you could spoon feed me your business tactics that'd be greeeeeaaaat."

:picardfp:

[gerardojdm]

...and it's guys like you that motivate me to get my dealer's license while I'm stationed there so I can sell cars for reasonable prices. Good luck trying to copy and paste someone's business model. I'm sure they'd love to help you become their competition lol.

"Hey Starbucks can you tell me how to get the same coffee as you so I can sell it at the same time as you for competitive prices? If you could spoon feed me your business tactics that'd be greeeeeaaaat."

:picardfp:



I truly wish you the best of luck. I don't mind making a trip to Japan to meet people. I will get it done by the end of the year with or without anyone's help.

[kashira kureijii]

...and it's guys like you that motivate me to get my dealer's license while I'm stationed there so I can sell cars for reasonable prices. Good luck trying to copy and paste someone's business model. I'm sure they'd love to help you become their competition lol.

"Hey Starbucks can you tell me how to get the same coffee as you so I can sell it at the same time as you for competitive prices? If you could spoon feed me your business tactics that'd be greeeeeaaaat."

:picardfp:



Lolz

This is what we would call a Syrian Refugee business model

"If anyone here would, Please help me do what you do and destroy your livelihood " "thanks in advance"

Haha I'm sure all them Japanese folks will love working with someone too incompetent to figure out things on their own

[collegekid]

Probably not worth the effort to sell old ass japanese cars to people who wont want to pay for them at your asking price.

[zombiewolf513]

I posted your question in the proper thread...

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=577517&page=361

[gerardojdm]

I love the 240 community spirit! Always negative.


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[Yardjass]

Subscribed. lol

[TSL]

I love the 240 community spirit! Always negative.

Are you sure it's a good idea to build a business to cater to this crowd?

[sil80takashi]

That was dope, how do you do that?

Here you go man (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+use+let+me+google+that+for+you)

[Yardjass]

Are you sure it's a good idea to build a business to cater to this crowd?

I'm sure he'll have IOU's from almost his entire customer base.

"Yeah bruh, I goin thru some hard times rite now but I kneed dis car to get to work I"ll start makeing payments hear in a couple of weeks when duh paychecks start rollin in"

[driftsucky]

You guys are a bunch of @$$holes. The guy ask a legitimate question and nobody gives him a straight answer.

dude, contact Motorex. They've done all the legwork and you can get cars from them shipped anywhere in the US. My buddy in SC bought a legit R34 from them and he's loving life. If you're in the Atlanta area, I'm sure you've seen it. It's purple. Good luck man. don't listen to all these haters. They're just mad cuz all there 240's are LHD with SR swaps instead of RHD Silvias that are identical in almost every other way.

[gerardojdm]

Are you sure it's a good idea to build a business to cater to this crowd?



I won't be selling cars here on zilvia or any forums. I've sold most all my cars through Craigslist and social media. The 240 community is probably the worst crowd I've experienced, I just won't let someone of these hater's comments stop me from making my dream come true.

[gerardojdm]

You guys are a bunch of @$$holes. The guy ask a legitimate question and nobody gives him a straight answer.

dude, contact Motorex. They've done all the legwork and you can get cars from them shipped anywhere in the US. My buddy in SC bought a legit R34 from them and he's loving life. If you're in the Atlanta area, I'm sure you've seen it. It's purple. Good luck man. don't listen to all these haters. They're just mad cuz all there 240's are LHD with SR swaps instead of RHD Silvias that are identical in almost every other way.


240 people are thugs behind there phone or computer. I'll try giving these big people a call and hopefully I'll get some answers. I don't recall seeing a purple R34 here. There are only a hand full of R34s here in Atlanta.

[RB25GUY]

240 people are thugs behind there phone or computer. I'll try giving these big people a call and hopefully I'll get some answers. I don't recall seeing a purple R34 here. There are only a hand full of R34s here in Atlanta.

If you were serious about your "Dream" doubt you would be posting up on zilvia for tips on how to start a importing business...Good luck with your business venture, i really doubt this will blow up like you intend to...its gonna take a solid 5-6 years of hard work to get the business where you want it to be without investors that believe in you its going to be nearly impossible the most crucial step of the business is starting it getting it off the ground and maintaining it.

[JM216S14]

240 people are thugs behind there phone or computer. I'll try giving these big people a call and hopefully i'll get some answers. I don't recall seeing a purple r34 here. There are only a hand full of r34s here in atlanta.

omg........

[Yardjass]

If you were serious about your "Dream" doubt you would be posting up on zilvia for tips on how to start a importing business...Good luck with your business venture, i really doubt this will blow up like you intend to...its gonna take a solid 5-6 years of hard work to get the business where you want it to be without investors that believe in you its going to be nearly impossible the most crucial step of the business is starting it getting it off the ground and maintaining it.

If I was doing this, I'd probably go work for Japanese Classics or one of the other importers for a few years to learn the business. There are going to be a lot of hard lessons learned, even with thorough research, and learning how the industry works would minimize OP's risk when he does want to go put his own money on the line. But really I wouldn't do this to begin with because if I was selling a product, I'd prefer to sell to a customer base that actually has money.

You guys are a bunch of @$$holes.

And?

[gerardojdm]

If you were serious about your "Dream" doubt you would be posting up on zilvia for tips on how to start a importing business...Good luck with your business venture, i really doubt this will blow up like you intend to...its gonna take a solid 5-6 years of hard work to get the business where you want it to be without investors that believe in you its going to be nearly impossible the most crucial step of the business is starting it getting it off the ground and maintaining it.



I should hire you to advice me on how to run my business then. I made $10k profit last just last month April and I'm a small dealer. I'm a 1 man show, I paint, repair and sell myself. I seriously doubt I'll take advise from idiots on zilvia that run their mouth. I'm simply asking for directions, but everyone clearly can't read

[driftsucky]

And?
http://themidnightalliance.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/uhh-not-quite.gif

the end. it wasn't a criticism. It was an observation. Meanwhile...when you catch it....

[dizzariot]

I should hire you to advice me on how to run my business then. I made $10k profit last just last month April and I'm a small dealer. I'm a 1 man show, I paint, repair and sell myself. I seriously doubt I'll take advise from idiots on zilvia that run their mouth. I'm simply asking for directions, but everyone clearly can't read

Here's some advise:

*advice

There's no way to tell, without knowing you, how sincere you are. Have you been into Japanese cars your whole life and just love to be around them? Or are you a cunt looking to monopolize on the difference in price between here an Japan? You seem lazy enough to come to a 'forum of assholes an idiots' for advise (*advice) only to turn around and say 'oh like I'd take any of your advise (*advice)'...so are you stupid or are you just fucking lazy? People on this forum can smell a phony from a mile away. That's why there's a (rotten) core on this forum that keeps it alive while keeping all of the bullshit out. You call us assholes and that's cool. No one wants you here anyway.

Good luck talking to Motorex. More proof you have no fucking clue what you're doing.

[g35gabby]

I'm just amazed that when people are being genuine with him about this not being the best laid plan (brash, but to the point anyway), he decides to tell everyone their assholes and he doesn't like the community.

Who is it he is planning to sell to again?

[10psitx]

Good luck with that bud!!....state side car dealers' experience has no bearing on importing cars from Japan. Take some advice....get a job with an established "import house" and learn the ropes.

[Corbic]

Take some advice....get a job with an established "import house" and learn the ropes.



But why?

He's missed the fucking boat.

Canada has bled dry the supply of cheap good cars. Just wander over to Yahoo Auction JP and see what shits going for. If he spends 3 years figuring this out it will already be 1994/5 cars. He'd have 3 more good years and then nobody cars about the 2000+ stuff.

It's a lot of work that requires a lot of insider knowledge.


A better plan is start a buy-here pay-here and just turn local auction junk.

Our local slum dealer "Headers", the owner clears 300k a year. They even do tax refunds so you come in, they file your "income credit earned" and use it for payment.

He runs a wrecker and basic oil change shop too... So don't make payment, they tow it back and resell it. Shop also does just enough so the shit piles run to be sold.

Most cars sell for 2-3k. He typically pays $5-600 at auction. If the car is not economically salvageable, it goes to the scrapper for $3-400. The down payment is typically what he paid at auction.

Let's be real. Selling fancy RHD shit is cool. But it's not going to pay the bills and it's a limited window market. In 10 years all those cars will be gone and no one gives a shit about a RHD Versa.

Running a business is about money. Id rather be flipping 5 Grand Ams and Rangers a day making a 6 figure income than sitting round chasing buyers and dealing with bullshit dreams so I can unload a car I have $10k into so I can make $1k in profit.

Sell a $2500 junker every other day, clear $600 each, $7,200 a month

Sell $19,000 GTR every other month, clear $1,500 each, $750 a month


Hmmmmm [emoji848]

[driftsucky]

So, nobody is gonna comment on Motorex being defunct for like over a decade? Ohhh ok. UFCK you guys. Bunch of @$$holes.

[Corbic]

So, nobody is gonna comment on Motorex being defunct for like over a decade? Ohhh ok. UFCK you guys. Bunch of @$$holes.



Motorex got defunct because fraud and import violations..

[driftsucky]

Motorex got defunct because fraud and import violations..

Yes. Yes they did.

[Corbic]

Yes. Yes they did.



They basically qualified the R32 and lied about vin dates to pass OBD2 requirements.

I forgot the other company that was importing shells and trying to call them kit cars.

Motorex was charging 85-100k for a R34 GTR.

People continue to fail to realize how rare and expensive they are. You won't be getting one for $18k.. Ever.

Hell, they've been legal in Canukastan for 2 years now. I don't see the internets blowing up like it did with R32s.

[kashira kureijii]

They basically qualified the R32 and lied about vin dates to pass OBD2 requirements.

I forgot the other company that was importing shells and trying to call them kit cars.

Motorex was charging 85-100k for a R34 GTR.

People continue to fail to realize how rare and expensive they are. You won't be getting one for $18k.. Ever.

Hell, they've been legal in Canukastan for 2 years now. I don't see the internets blowing up like it did with R32s.

Thread jack, we should talk about import stuff instead of this dipshit (OP, not you corbic, made it sound like I was calling you a dipshit haha)

Didn't they make less r34's than they made gollardo's ? seems like all these peeps hoping to swipe up a nice 34 when they become legal are freakin dreamin. there isn't going to be many acceptable ones (for an acceptable price) left by that time.

[driftsucky]

They basically qualified the R32 and lied about vin dates to pass OBD2 requirements.

I forgot the other company that was importing shells and trying to call them kit cars.

Motorex was charging 85-100k for a R34 GTR.

People continue to fail to realize how rare and expensive they are. You won't be getting one for $18k.. Ever.

Hell, they've been legal in Canukastan for 2 years now. I don't see the internets blowing up like it did with R32s.

all true...again.

[JM216S14]

So, nobody is gonna comment on Motorex being defunct for like over a decade? Ohhh ok. UFCK you guys. Bunch of @$$holes.

I was hoping op was really going to try and contact them...

[gerardojdm]

I found a local importer that has accepted to help me. I will keep these people that had nothing but negative things to say posted.


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[sil80takashi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx64_N4AA04

[rawgarage]

I put a down on an R34 V spec, last year... Locked in the price at 65k from the owner who had multiple and a few GTT's. After earning about him and discussing in multiple FaceTime conversations he's now keeping every car holding out until the 202 earning about him and discussing in multiple FaceTime conversations he's now keeping every car holding out until the 2025+ years to flip. He's from China but based in Jland For work...


Ppl expecting sub 70k GTR better buy when Canada allows it...

[zombiewolf513]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx64_N4AA04

LOL

I found a local importer that has accepted to help me. I will keep these people that had nothing but negative things to say posted.


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Calling bullshit :jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:

Probably rivsu just selling him cars -$400 off sticker. IF he has a dealer license

I was hoping OP would try to call motorex too

[KiLLeR2001]

I'm only seeing about 10,200 R34 GTR's produced for the Japanese market.

[TSL]

You guys hurt my feelings and you all suck but I'm gonna keep coming back here to give y'all updates.

Ok friend.

[g35gabby]

They basically qualified the R32 and lied about vin dates to pass OBD2 requirements.

I forgot the other company that was importing shells and trying to call them kit cars.

Motorex was charging 85-100k for a R34 GTR.

People continue to fail to realize how rare and expensive they are. You won't be getting one for $18k.. Ever.

Hell, they've been legal in Canukastan for 2 years now. I don't see the internets blowing up like it did with R32s.

Motorex did fudge the "build dates" on the R33s to avoid having to deal with OBD2. The R32s and 34s that were imported with the understanding and clearance by the federal government that crash tests from an R33 were good enough and covered the 32 and 34. When it got to the highest courts the judge decided that though they are the same blood line, they are not the same and needed their own crash tests.

Motorex did not do any vin swapping or "kit car" stuff like Kazio tried to pull. This is a very different mess and that is what killed them. The ruling in that case was that a Kit car can not be assembled of components from a fully assembled car of its origin. had the been playing shuffle with a say 6 cars and moving things to each one and making "new cars" they potentially could have had a case for a kit car being qualified, but what they did not so much. This is also still very much standard practice by several companies, especially in the sunshine state.

the R34s imported by motorex rarely pop up for sale. there is between 12-13 depending on what records you believe (legal and grandfather in as they were legal at the time of importation do to previous rulings on what crash tests were acceptable). The last one to pop up for sale was listed at 80k, and if you follow some of the other boards there are more buyers out there than you might imagine for those at that price. They do change hands, but it is very rare.

People didn't blow up the internet about the R34 in Canada because they have had a decade of being excited about this or that import. You probably also follow many more USDM pages that are US based than Canuck. They have all kinds of other cars that are cool and have been able to enjoy or far too long to loose their minds over a R34. Yes they are popular, but it doesn't have the as much flare when you have had R32 and 33s for years already. until 2014, the only RB powered cars that were legal for import were not nearly as appealing to the mass market of USDM consumers. There are plenty of "scene kids" who don't even know that the Hako and R32 have brothers in between or what an FJ20ET is or that an RB26 isn't the largest production RB.

Plus it is Canada..... I can only imagine it is hard to be excited about anything there. outside it is still Canada.

[Kuma]

You made 10k last month... is that a normal month, good month, bad month? my suggestion, if you're already financially stable, find a lawyer that deals with importing and customs laws. They'll keep you from getting sued or in trouble with the law, and he'll know other importers that you can network with.