Coilovers With swift springs

[Laith]

I couldn't find a thread with the right answers I was looking for so I decided to start this one. I'm looking to get some coilovers as soon as I can but I al looking for a good over all coilover but I do want swift springs on I them once I buy them. I know.. I know I could just swap the springs. I was looking into Fortune Autos 500, powertrix, or Feal.
So my question is what are the best Coilovers with swift springs I could buy for under 1500 this will be my DD and maybe see a few track days what are your experiences/review/or even things you've heard?



BTW I have a S14 if that matters

[deolio]

i'd go with a cheaper coil and just change out the springs then spend the money saved on suspension arms.

[jared420sx]

I just got broadway statics. You can get them with swift springs as a upgradeable option. I love mine 4in spring in the front 5 in the back 16/18k

[turboshoebox]

What happened to zilvia? Since when every start supporting off brands like feal and fontune cookie auto? What happen do dg5, um...zeal u know the name feal copied and so forth?

[KAT-PWR]

What happened to zilvia? Since when every start supporting off brands like feal and fontune cookie auto? What happen do dg5, um...zeal u know the name feal copied and so forth?

About the same time retards like you came on the scene.

[turboshoebox]

nope. 2002 everyone was either: eibach and progress springs, koni yellows, jic flta2, tein coils and a handfull of tanabe suspension

[dizzariot]

I use Feal coilovers. They're made in Ontario, CA and can be serviced there if need be. They come with Swift springs from Odi and if you call him to order them directly from his shop he'll help you figure out what springs you want. You can choose your rates at no extra cost.

[future]

Go with Feal and Odi


Talked to them for a hour and decided it was best. I also paid the extra 200 for the custom valving and so on. Asked tons of questions about my cars and tire set up and that. Ended up with a 14k 6k and wow


I was scared of them. Previously having PBM back in my 240 days the spring rates were borderline unlikable. But these are the best things yet and it was a night and day difference from the off the shelf junk I had before. Then the best part they are the next city over from me! And when rebuild is due they only charge 75 per

[rawgarage]

BC's with swift springs....


Fuck ODi right in the feeeeeeeeals......


Jk

[Laith]

Thanks for all the replys guys will look more into FEAL I guess... :)

[Pblesh85]

i'd go with a cheaper coil and just change out the springs then spend the money saved on suspension arms.

Why would you consider spending less money than that on coils ? Let me guess, 800~1000 on coils and another 300~400 on arms... Which Chinese brands do you suggest ? There are no GOOD coilovers for that price.

To the OP, please do not cheap out on suspension... You know the things that keep your wheels on the ground. Swift springs is not going to change the fact that your on shitty Chinese dampers.

If all you want to do is lower the car, buy some tein basic, good brake pads, and good non stretched tires.

Don't cheap out on suspension.

[da_crew10]

Fortune auto for dd sir. Trust me, do not listen to these fools.

[OBEEWON]

Ugh they are ALL the flippin' same until you spend over 2.5-3k.

[deolio]

Why would you consider spending less money than that on coils ? Let me guess, 800~1000 on coils and another 300~400 on arms... Which Chinese brands do you suggest ? There are no GOOD coilovers for that price.

because if it's his first set of coils he's not going to be able to tell the difference between $600 megans and $1200 fortunes (without swifts). majority of suspension components these days are manufactured in china/taiwan, don't be ignorant. also, have you ever seen the marketplace on here? i got all my spl and pbm arms for under $400.

To the OP, please do not cheap out on suspension... You know the things that keep your wheels on the ground. Swift springs is not going to change the fact that you're on shitty Chinese dampers.

do you actually have experience with these things or are you going off some preconceived notion? because i do. my $700 bc's rode like garbage, switched to swift springs and now they ride better than any of the cucso, jic, stance, or fortune coils i've ever owned. seen it time and time again on friend's cars as well. swift forgives many of the faults of lower quality damping. not saying they're as good as upper tier feal, stance, fortunes, etc with swifts, but if you're just dailying and doing some light tracking, all you really need is just something that rides decent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[dorkidori_s13]

Fortune auto for dd sir. Trust me, do not listen to these fools.

i concur!!! ive been dailying on my Fortunes for 3+ years now... love them to death!

[Sumslapper]

I have Ohlins with swift springs 10k/6k and they are the business!

[corkscrew]

+1 on fortunes

[Perfect Balance]

+1 on Fortune Auto. Built to order in the U.S., custom spring rates, rebuildable for a good price, every set is shock dynoed, warranty, good customer service. Big difference compared to Megan racing or whoever. Even Stance is just HSD coilovers. (which is also DG5 btw). This doesn't really mean that Stance is crap or anything but Fortune Auto is constantly improving their products in house and not just shipping them from across the world.

Swift makes a big difference, but as far as fairly cheap coils go, Fortune is on top significantly.

[mau5trap]

http://www.stance-usa.com/main/products/coilovers/super-sport-pro-3/

get these bad boys with swift^^^^

[dazed]

Swift springs really do make that big of a difference.

I have Stance Super Sport's with Swift springs all around and they ride very well. A big improvement from the Stance springs. I'm sure Swift's would be beneficial to just about any coilover.

Only downside I will say about Stance is the rear lower bushings seem to wear out prematurely. I've been through a couple over the years. Their customer service has always been on point though.

Eventually I'd like to ball out on some T-Demand's.

[turboshoebox]

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[MrMigs]

Have you tried the Tanabe TEAS ?

[future]

Back in my 240 days I've had 6 different suspension and nothing has been like my second set on the Z right now. 14k 6k properly valved rides so smooth on the streets but in the turns it's magic

[turboshoebox]

You better not try and say ur 2nd coils for the Z was Feal or fortune cookie auto

[TheRealSy90]

GPSports G-Master / DG5's with swifts. Done.

[Pblesh85]

because if it's his first set of coils he's not going to be able to tell the difference between $600 megans and $1200 fortunes (without swifts). majority of suspension components these days are manufactured in china/taiwan, don't be ignorant. also, have you ever seen the marketplace on here? i got all my spl and pbm arms for under $400.



do you actually have experience with these things or are you going off some preconceived notion? because i do. my $700 bc's rode like garbage, switched to swift springs and now they ride better than any of the cucso, jic, stance, or fortune coils i've ever owned. seen it time and time again on friend's cars as well. swift forgives many of the faults of lower quality damping. not saying they're as good as upper tier feal, stance, fortunes, etc with swifts, but if you're just dailying and doing some light tracking, all you really need is just something that rides decent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



As a matter of fact I have had several sets of coilovers from both ends of the spectrum. 3 sets of jic, PBM, kts, zeal, ohlins. I've owned a lot of stuff for different purposes. You can tell the difference between a good damper and shitty. Don't mask up a problem with a nice spring.

Either buy it right the first time or don't buy anything. You don't need a set of $$$$$ coilovers to have a good time on a good car. But don't but Chinese crap. There are reasons zeal, arc, hks, trust, yashio factory, ect don't have a market out here. Because everyone wants that kind of performance on a dollar menu budget.

i get he's not looking to blow 2k plus on something he's not familiar with. I wouldn't either. That's why I stated, tein basics, real brake pads(not hawk hps), and proper tires. Then auto cross or lap your car til your ready to explore more. The driver will not reach the performance limits of the car within 6months-2years. Work on the driver not some fantasy build.

But no one will even bother listening because "needs more low, stance, hoonigay, ect..."

[turboshoebox]

GPSports G-Master / DG5's with swifts. Done.

My ninja! :2f2f:

[Croustibat]

Ugh they are ALL the flippin' same until you spend over 2.5-3k.

You clearly have not tried much of them.
FA500s are trackable and can do a good job on the street too. It sure is no KW v3, but they still perform better than tein monos. And that is without swift springs.

because if it's his first set of coils he's not going to be able to tell the difference between $600 megans and $1200 fortunes (without swifts). [...]

Yes, he will. It is night and day, really. Even without swift springs... my 9/7 FA500s are more comfy than the apex (not apex'i ... same as megans) i had before. With 5/4 springs. The handling is also something else, as it has a correct bump to rebound ratio.

[OBEEWON]

You clearly have not tried much of them.
FA500s are trackable and can do a good job on the street too. It sure is no KW v3, but they still perform better than tein monos. And that is without swift springs.

I have. Just varying degrees of meh. Even mid range Bilsteins are meh. You'd have to try hard to do worse than Tein Monoflex they aren't a standard.
But folk want to defend what they own which is understandable.

[future]

I stand behind my Feals

[turboshoebox]

I stand behind my Feals

so you like a suspension company where the back is low, the front has two fist wheel gap and the front wheels stick out, the graphics are really shity and amerian looking, the driver has the name of garfields best dog friend and the name is a copy of a atual real company zeal?

http://www.wreckedmagazine.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/OdiBakchis.Front_-620x413.jpg

[timandytimandy]

+1 on Fortune Auto. Built to order in the U.S.
*assembled

so you like a suspension company where the back is low, the front has two fist wheel gap and the front wheels stick out, the graphics are really shity and amerian looking, the driver has the name of garfields best dog friend and the name is a copy of a atual real company zeal?


yeah just weld in some metal instead of coilovers and be slammed. Clearance and traction are stupid.

[Perfect Balance]

blah blah you know the "actual real" DG5 coilovers are just HSD coils right? You know, hsd, stance, driftworks, dg5. They're the same. But you're over here running on about "fortune cookie auto" when they're making stuff that blows those out of the water.

Do your research "bruh" because it makes you look stupid.

Yeah fortune auto is "assembled" in the U.S.

Hand assembled with amsoil shock fluid, they all have their own serial #, and are run on a shock dyno prior to ever making it in the box. Built to whatever custom spec you desire. That's where the QC is important. Machining a top hat in Taiwan isn't making the coils perform worse.

Having some guy in a factory who rides a bicycle to work mass assembling coilovers for 15 different brands across the world however will.

[future]

Yeah because the reason you kids buy coils is dumb. Let's get to the floor and hit as many things as I can. Crazy to think people actually buy custom valved and spring coilovers tailored to their car and mods. Mind blowing

[turboshoebox]

It's silly how zilvia writes off all the taiwan/chineseoff brands but once theres this red neck off brand that it's all of sudden so much better then any chiense one.

why u ask?

local?
shock dyno?
rebuildable in the US?
Performance?

nope Cheap

[turboshoebox]

Yeah because the reason you kids buy coils is dumb. Let's get to the floor and hit as many things as I can. Crazy to think people actually buy custom valved and spring coilovers tailored to their car and mods. Mind blowing

yes because if there it no custom specs then it automatically bottons and out and sucks right? :picardfp:

[turboshoebox]

Buying FA is like saying oh my ugly gf is now pretty hot cause i custom gave her a new out fit. can't polish a turd

[Kis4Kouki]

My buddys s14 has bc coilovers and it made huge difference over the pos d2 that was previously on them. Precise dampening and good compression/rebound make for a controlable and responsive ride. Good for grip driving or drifting. And the local drift event has a extremely bumpy course. Look up Piedmont drift. Cars with crap coilovers bouncing all over the place lol.
I just ordered a set of fa500 with swift springs from enjuku right at 1500. Went with them because they are a hour away from me and they valve the shocks to your spring rate.
Hopefully in the next few weeks ill be able to give my opinion on them.
Ethier way bc or fortune auto, from what i have seen, are a good choice.

[Perfect Balance]

It's silly how zilvia writes off all the taiwan/chineseoff brands but once theres this red neck off brand that it's all of sudden so much better then any chiense one.

why u ask?

local?
shock dyno?
rebuildable in the US?
Performance?

nope Cheap

No that's the guys who buy cx racing coilovers. And actually they're more expensive than some of the others so yeah people are actually paying more money for a better product.

What makes them a red neck company? What makes them an off brand? "You can't polish a turd" I agree. Except they're actually good lol. You know how to read a shock dyno? You say they suck but you literally have not a single legitimate bad thing about them lol.

In fact your beloved dg5 IS and off brand. HSD is the manufacturer. It is literally the coilover equivalent of polishing a turd. Taking a cheap product and putting some important names behind it and calling something better than what it is and raising the price tag. They come standard with swift springs which gives the impression that they're somehow better dampers. You have no idea what you're talking about but you keep trying with silly metaphors lol.

[2muchboost]

LOL another coilover thread I see...what a shock. And the typical bashing of FA yet once again. I have been in many cars with different coilovers in different setups. I purchased 2 sets of FA 500s for my LSx build and for a non-LSx build. Upgraded to Swift Springs and had zero complaints. Comfy for DD and have plenty of performance information regarding them.

Nothing like my KW V3's that I had in the M3 but then again look at the price difference.

[MrMigs]

LOL another coilover thread I see...what a shock.

Heyyyoooo~~~ :tardrim:

[STEEZxIT]

if you guys want to debate:

a lot of praise is going to swift, but it looks like it's all feeling, not actual gauge-able performance. to consider springs great, you must look at feeling and solid performance numbers. perhaps compare track time aggregates of a control (coilover with included spring) vs swift (same coilover but with swift springs installed, duh), not that many people would have access to that information....voice trails off...

[MrMigs]

ehh for a spring, the things to look at are mainly consistency in production, so when you have an 8k spring, it really is 8k and not 7.5k for example. And then, you want to make sure that the spring rate is tested in it's full range from standing height all the way to maximum compression. And you want to make sure (assuming you want linear springs) that the spring rate stays at 8kg/mm through its full compression range.

I know Tanabe springs were made/tested in that sort of way bc I used to work there. Swift, I believe is produced in the same standard, or maybe better. Also, the type of metal that's used is something to consider... I don't feel like doing the actual research, but I recall Swift being made by some sort of composite with great properties. Meh...

[pacotaco345]

I have 9k/7k fortune auto 500s with 6" swift on my s13 and its lit. I need to get the other rear mount so I can lower the car more... I think its better than my PBMs were but I went a year between driving the car with PBM and FA so I don't know. I have more grip coming out of corners though.


Lots of sentences starting with "I" there


FEAL is cool too

[Perfect Balance]

ehh for a spring, the things to look at are mainly consistency in production, so when you have an 8k spring, it really is 8k and not 7.5k for example. And then, you want to make sure that the spring rate is tested in it's full range from standing height all the way to maximum compression. And you want to make sure (assuming you want linear springs) that the spring rate stays at 8kg/mm through its full compression range.

that's really all it is. Consistency both in spring rate and through the compression of the spring. This is why it's such a surprising difference in ride quality when it seems like a fairly minor difference. But this consistency is also what lets even a lower quality damper achieve better results.

[ilia]

I don't understand how STANCE has not come up. Touge Factory has been in business for almost 20 years, and has been supporting the Stance brand for most of that time.

What I like about Stance is that the company has been around for much longer than some of the other companies people are suggesting. Stance isn't on it's first (or second, or third) iteration of product. They've implemented revision after revision, and few shops know drifting like Touge Factory does.

Just something to think about.

[turboshoebox]

Hell even the hks hipermax iv isnt a bad option if u want to go 1500 or under

[turboshoebox]

I don't understand how STANCE has not come up. Touge Factory has been in business for almost 20 years, and has been supporting the Stance brand for most of that time.

What I like about Stance is that the company has been around for much longer than some of the other companies people are suggesting. Stance isn't on it's first (or second, or third) iteration of product. They've implemented revision after revision, and few shops know drifting like Touge Factory does.

Just something to think about.

Marketing my man. People are lead to believe just because buba in the south is custom making each valving and there is a ged of its shock dynos they are getting a 5k coilover for 1k.

[CrimsonRockett]

Closing this since almost every time a coilover thread comes up, it goes to shit (surprise, huh?).

OP, please do your research.

There is plenty of information, reviews, and opinions on coilovers. A quick google search will yield you some good results.