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dreaMervaj
03-04-2016, 09:04 AM
Yes I searched but couldn't find a definite answer.
So this is a really noob question but how do you tighten the crank pulley (KA24DE)? I bought a motor and that bolt is loose (supposedly it was a good motor but now I'm thinking it's a bad motor because the bolt is loose).
The motor is out of the car. Could I tighten the crank pulley by chaining the flywheel bolt holes to one of the transmission holes on the block? That's how I've always installed my flywheel so would it work the same as tightening the crank pulley?
All suggestions are welcome. Thanks!
hanzbrady
03-04-2016, 09:28 AM
If the motor is out of the car stick a pry bar between the flywheel teeth and wedge the bar against a bell housing bolt.
dreaMervaj
03-04-2016, 10:11 AM
If the motor is out of the car stick a pry bar between the flywheel teeth and wedge the bar against a bell housing bolt.
I'll try this later. It's basically how I get the flywheel off so it SHOULD work because the motor doesn't spin.
derass
03-04-2016, 10:43 AM
Could I tighten the crank pulley by chaining the flywheel bolt holes to one of the transmission holes on the block? That's how I've always installed my flywheel so would it work the same as tightening the crank pulley?
I don't like the sound of that. The torque spec for the crank pulley bolt has got to be over 100 lb/ft. You would be chaining one of the pressure plate bolts which are quite small. I'd be worried about snapping a bolt.
If the motor is out of the car stick a pry bar between the flywheel teeth and wedge the bar against a bell housing bolt.
I had a hell of a time using that method to torque down my flywheel. The tip of the breaker bar was too wide to fit deep enough in the teeth of the flywheel and kept slipping. I'm buying a flywheel lock tool for future jobs that involve the clutch or crank pulley.
brndck
03-04-2016, 11:22 AM
this is the correct tool
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/lil-23800?seid=srese1&gclid=CPrDv8jSp8sCFQcLaQodzCsPpg
S14kouki805
03-04-2016, 11:25 AM
Couldn't you just hit it with an impact and then torque it to spec once in the car by putting the trans in gear?
derass
03-04-2016, 11:27 AM
Can you get that tool through the inspection hole to lock the crank with trans still on?
I was thinking something like this:
http://www.getools.co.uk/3066-3066-thickbox/draper-30830-expert-universal-flywheel-locking-tool.jpg
Couldn't you just hit it with an impact and then torque it to spec once in the car by putting the trans in gear?
You could, but the only think locking the crank would be the friction of the clutch disc.
dreaMervaj
03-04-2016, 12:23 PM
I'm gonna try the flywheel chain method or pry by on flywheel method.
I want to get this motor in and I don't think I could find any of those tools locally...
hanzbrady
03-04-2016, 12:24 PM
Couldn't you just hit it with an impact and then torque it to spec once in the car by putting the trans in gear?
I wouldn't do that because it would be like hitting all you main bearings with a hammer, and impacts don't stop at torque spec.
Kingtal0n
03-04-2016, 03:46 PM
A little pipe wrench around the crank pulley works in a pinch for tightening (crank or flywheel)
for loosen, I put the ratchet handle against a block of work and bump the starter.
Mitsubayati
03-04-2016, 03:50 PM
Use a wrench and bolt the closed end to the head or something on the same plane as the flywheel and use the open end to hold the flywheel teeth. Below is an SR I did this on.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11149394_10153243734764603_5317977624339304796_n.j pg?oh=8fcfe42189cbb40cf8a26d971ec3e529&oe=57597ABE
brndck
03-04-2016, 04:00 PM
/\/\/\/\/\ I'm a big fan of that method.
kashira kureijii
03-04-2016, 05:03 PM
this is easiest, use a tranny bolt and put a socket up against it
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag23/neko-romancer95/Flywheeltooltrick_zps9hzjhb9f.jpg (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/neko-romancer95/media/Flywheeltooltrick_zps9hzjhb9f.jpg.html)
I learned it from club 4age via google
then just use an impact gun to tighten it up, when you start to torque on it, it usually just rolls the engine over (unless you have it stabilized by something real sturdy.) I had my little bro prying against it with a big pipe wrench on the driveline piece that came with the engine, and it would still torque the engine on it's side when trying to use a torque wrench. impact gun was easy and it wasn't a problem
fatduece
03-04-2016, 06:42 PM
Damn those methods look questionable. What are the chances of braking the tooth off the flywheel? With my luck, Id probably be the first to strip the tooth X_X"
That draper tool (daper? Lelz) looks much better. Derass, have you tried that on a sr20?
derass
03-04-2016, 07:56 PM
I agree, these are all more sketchy than I'd like to try. I learned that from my experience with the pry bar and will not be repeating that. It must have slipped 10-20 times during torquing. I cringed every time, but thankfully there was no damage.
I do not own that tool I posted, but will get something similar in the future. If you do an image search on Google for a "flywheel lock tool" you will see that there are many different styles available. I chose to post that one because it looks the best (and is probably the most expensive).
I like that design because of the range of adjustment and the fact that it uses 2 securing points rather than 1 that you will see with some of the other styles. They're all universal tools so I'm confident that most would work with the SR.
w0nderbr3ad
03-04-2016, 10:06 PM
I've used the socket method before when tightening down flywheel bolts.
jedi03
03-04-2016, 10:23 PM
I put the engine on engine stand place a long either pry bar or extension between the flywheel bolts and use that to hold it...in the vehicle I shove some screwdrivers between several teeth and these methods have always held
Kingtal0n
03-05-2016, 03:39 AM
The flywheel should be really easy. First of all the torque is not that high for those bolts.
Second of all, is everyone overlooking the crank bolt? Why not put a ratchet on the crank bolt, let the handle push on a block of wood, and torque the flywheel.
CaptainVlad
03-05-2016, 10:36 AM
use a breaker bar, turn engine on, try to hold the breaker bar like you were in a rodeo...boom... job done!
derass
03-05-2016, 01:52 PM
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dreaMervaj
03-07-2016, 04:51 AM
this is easiest, use a tranny bolt and put a socket up against it
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag23/neko-romancer95/Flywheeltooltrick_zps9hzjhb9f.jpg (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/neko-romancer95/media/Flywheeltooltrick_zps9hzjhb9f.jpg.html)
I learned it from club 4age via google
then just use an impact gun to tighten it up, when you start to torque on it, it usually just rolls the engine over (unless you have it stabilized by something real sturdy.) I had my little bro prying against it with a big pipe wrench on the driveline piece that came with the engine, and it would still torque the engine on it's side when trying to use a torque wrench. impact gun was easy and it wasn't a problem
Thanks for all suggestions. This method worked flawlessly.
I believe the method above with the wrench would've worked flawlessly also!
Jorgs_7
03-07-2016, 10:06 AM
Little lock tite and a pneumatic impact. Done numerous times. No impact and you'll struggle.
ZaK687
03-07-2016, 10:57 AM
I feel like i should mention this just in case. if you have a fidanza flywheel, don't brace the wheel using the teeth on the outside of the flywheel. Shit will break apart since its a separate piece held on by 3 small bolts.
fatduece
03-08-2016, 05:11 PM
^Good to know.
adamhanna
03-08-2016, 11:06 PM
i just wait until the engine is in the car then put it in gear and put the ebrake on then torque. just make sure you dont forget
fatduece
03-09-2016, 12:02 AM
^Are you stupid? How the hell can you tighten the flywheel with the tranny on?
ZaK687
03-09-2016, 01:36 AM
He means the crank pulley
Frank_Jaeger
03-09-2016, 04:49 AM
I use a wrench to prevent the intake cam from turning.
dreaMervaj
03-09-2016, 05:25 AM
I feel like i should mention this just in case. if you have a fidanza flywheel, don't brace the wheel using the teeth on the outside of the flywheel. Shit will break apart since its a separate piece held on by 3 small bolts.
Funny thing is I actually have a Fidanza flywheel but all was well with the socket method.... or maybe I got lucky?
koko_S14
03-09-2016, 06:57 AM
The flywheel should be really easy. First of all the torque is not that high for those bolts.
Second of all, is everyone overlooking the crank bolt? Why not put a ratchet on the crank bolt, let the handle push on a block of wood, and torque the flywheel.
^this. keep it simple. I had a friend hold the crank bolt while I torqued the flywheel. I would imagine the opposite can be done. I tightened my crank bolt with the tranny on the motor (5th gear + ebrake).
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