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fiziksfiziks
02-16-2016, 07:37 AM
So I think I'm finally at a point of my build where I think it;s worth sharing. Doing a Ford V8 swap is kinda rare, so if you have any questions or anything let me know. There's currently no kits for this, so this was all made in my garage 'learning by doing'. This is also the most major car project I've tackled thus far. This will be a 100% track car, looking to do drifting, autox and HPDE.

Just a heads up, the descriptions will be below the pictures. I'm also shit at taking pictures, deal with it :coolugh:

http://40.media.tumblr.com/22637d16e93174a634fb83ca25930c81/tumblr_neulc7aZQ01u3tf6vo2_1280.jpg

Went and picked up the shell. 1991 Coupe, no rust, no accidents, no modifications. Kinda a unicorn.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/1d00a88d2af3ceb15193140831dd38f8/tumblr_neuq8p2wmA1u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

The power plant. 90's Ford 5.0L/302 Windsor. Crate motor thats a couple years old but with 0 miles, edelbrock intake/throttle body, probably an E303 cam. Stock heads. From a family member who planned to do a Factory Five kit car then lost interest after a few years.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/dc2984836b7d8f70e50956cf45938ce4/tumblr_nfx6roWiqb1u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

Ground off the motor mounts and enlarged the motor mount holes to accept the mustang mounts. The mustang mounts are actually the same spacing/angle as the S13 mounts, so the motor+mounts pretty much drops right in.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/d5c64e904a4357ae9754d35c74059119/tumblr_nfx6roWiqb1u3tf6vo2_1280.jpg
Test fitting.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/0f3ece316a402b12a3a75e09fc78535d/tumblr_nh887ypZrb1u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

Went with BBK Shorty Headers. Clears for everything except the steering column, which I'm going a custom route. I believe stock explorer headers will clear the steering shaft, but dont quote me on it.

http://36.media.tumblr.com/34914549089cfe7683b6d343dbc5b78c/tumblr_nldmp9LRs11u3tf6vo2_1280.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/a10da4da8d8e1b0348859c14cf75db93/tumblr_nldmp9LRs11u3tf6vo3_1280.jpg

For the crossmember, I cut a poition out then reinforced it with angle iron and some other strip metal. You can see in this picture the mustang motor mounts on the s13 corssmember and the bar spacers you have to use to bring the motor up to clear the crossmember. You will need a front sump oil pan/pickup, as the majority of 5.0L's are rear sump and just won't work with the s13's steering rack.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/bca26d8a15aaad8cdcaec64df31552b2/tumblr_njtkvzumTW1u3tf6vo4_1280.jpg

Stripped

http://40.media.tumblr.com/6a67d131e178d634e8a820191ae54ede/tumblr_nkgdohFVCT1u3tf6vo3_1280.jpg

http://36.media.tumblr.com/75c3c7eaa05e88f82bb470f8bd0d0ca2/tumblr_nkgdohFVCT1u3tf6vo2_1280.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/17d20aa1d069b8d619de614a3f8d21e8/tumblr_nkgdohFVCT1u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

Start of the custom steering linkage.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/dec24db61f31ded22765539a51b8d627/tumblr_nldmp9LRs11u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

Exedy Clutch

http://http://40.media.tumblr.com/27f491b57efcedb148a083e194e5638b/tumblr_nmyg4dkPQV1u3tf6vo2_1280.jpg
http://41.media.tumblr.com/05524ea4e6e20f08686fbac6ab7390c3/tumblr_nmyg4dkPQV1u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

Finished steering linkage. Used a 1.5:1 steering quickener and some DD shaft+U-Joints. I've since installed a double U-Joint and a brace welded to the frame rail to make it a bit more smooth feeling.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/e1180fc65da50f643280b6ad6b691a69/tumblr_nsyal5V4XK1u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

Gas tank bracket Fab

http://41.media.tumblr.com/0ed8616ab96ecdbe858b2713cc4005fe/tumblr_ntxbzaefS81u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

Front end accessories on.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/606987579383ed5078d295e070ab1d8f/tumblr_nwhkx0QVzc1u3tf6vo2_1280.jpg

Gas tank in.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/61b3de370daccd57b2ca58462aad9577/tumblr_nxu2q6gXcU1r40im3o4_1280.jpg

Interior getting there.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/943d5c0090506e6e81a7a7f1b1bfc0eb/tumblr_nxu2q6gXcU1r40im3o3_1280.jpg

Picked up this massive Griffin radiator.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/1ecee5ed47fc8ebb992d7d3906dc056c/tumblr_o22wayX6Yv1u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

Ron Francis Engine Wiring Harness is installed. Such a clean wiring harness. Everything is the perfect length on it.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/7a6e88adc2df78465b5be651a08a0439/tumblr_o210be8Kdh1u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

Ditched the existing chassis harness. This will replace it.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/2779018043ec89f1b0386f369a4595bf/tumblr_o2fzc7xWR81u3tf6vo2_1280.jpg

Radiator, Oil Cooler and P/S Cooler mounted up.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/24e580e7a4b9ce3be192a5c57209c06d/tumblr_o2fzc7xWR81u3tf6vo3_1280.jpg

Wiring Panel test fitting.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/18e72b1080b2b42c800692cb23787836/tumblr_o2fzc7xWR81u3tf6vo4_1280.jpg

Concealed nicely behind the dash.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/cbc51e8847ed894f1c3dc8ad2efd4742/tumblr_o2mdzykPVy1u3tf6vo1_1280.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/4e0fe741a28346b0d6a27edb8ae591da/tumblr_o2mdzykPVy1u3tf6vo2_1280.jpg

http://41.media.tumblr.com/233e548cc0dc784c211da408649f4aa7/tumblr_o2mdzykPVy1u3tf6vo3_1280.jpg

Intake on, remote oil filter on, cooling system plumbed, Power Steering AN lines mostly plumbed, just need another 70 degree -4 fitting.

Mofuhcka
02-24-2016, 03:38 AM
Wait did you just say doing this swap is rare?

fiziksfiziks
02-24-2016, 09:18 AM
Wait did you just say doing this swap is rare?

5.0 is probably the least common out of an SR, LS, JZ, etc.

2muchboost
02-24-2016, 10:28 AM
It is surely one of the least frequently completed swaps. That or everyone that does them doesnt promote it or make builds. I have seen some just not as many as other swaps.

Keep up the good work. Considering this swap myself in the future if I can justify the cost vs. another LSx swap.

estrada42
02-25-2016, 09:14 AM
For the crossmember, I cut a poition out then reinforced it with angle iron and some other strip metal. You can see in this picture the mustang motor mounts on the s13 corssmember and the bar spacers you have to use to bring the motor up to clear the crossmember. You will need a front sump oil pan/pickup, as the majority of 5.0L's are rear sump and just won't work with the s13's steering rack.



I'm not familiar with 5.0 motors, are those silver metal bars normal when installing one or are they acting as spacers for this particular chassis/setup? Also, is a front sump 5.0 pan a factory available item or is it custom made?

Malik
03-08-2016, 03:12 PM
this is interesting keep us updated

SoundEfx
03-08-2016, 05:19 PM
Nice work man. May the learning while doing continue.

fiziksfiziks
10-02-2016, 06:14 PM
Well the car is running and I've done a couple drift events. I'll get some media up on here sometime soon.

I'm not familiar with 5.0 motors, are those silver metal bars normal when installing one or are they acting as spacers for this particular chassis/setup? Also, is a front sump 5.0 pan a factory available item or is it custom made?

Those bars raise the motor about 2 inches, theyre not factory. The oil pan would not clean the subframe without them. They;ve since been replaced with rectangular tubing to save weight.

The oil pan is a stock front sump oil pan, the same one off an older 302 mustang, say 60-70's.

Standard
10-02-2016, 06:21 PM
Gotta say, this is a pretty cool project! Looks like you're doing things the right way, look forward to seeing more!

smoked240
10-03-2016, 12:05 PM
I clicked your build expecting shit! You sir, have delivered a quality lookin build!! Keep on keepin on.