How can I fit my 92 R32 headlights on my 95 Zenki?

[240skyline]

What up.I was wondering if anyone out there knows what marker lights and possibly fenders I might need to make this swap work?I was thinking R32 markers naturally but I'm not sure if then I'm gonna have to get fenders etc.I can make the headlights work with some bracket movement and a little creative trimming but the angle where the headlights meet the markers won't work with the Zenki ones.

[mrmephistopheles]

:rolleyes:

it's all custom, and all worthless.

[ThatGuy]

A really big hammer, and 3 rolls of Duct Tape. :cj:

[ZenkiSE]

jeez that guy will never post here again .....

[Brian]

trim the fenders and/or fill in some parts with bondo.

[zero.counter]

Buy the R32 markers and use them as a template to cut out of the zenki fenders and shape-form with glasss, reinforced with some fleece for rigidity. Basically a lot of measuring, trimming, sanding, and shaping.

[knightrider]

get all the r32 parts and bolt them onto your s13, they all fit, hood, fenders bumper lights, i think theres a little modding needed, but nuthin major,

[TK]

sell your 240 and buy a r32... DONE

[ThatGuy]

get all the r32 parts and bolt them onto your s13, they all fit, hood, fenders bumper lights, i think theres a little modding needed, but nuthin major,

95 Zenki

:D :mepoke: :doh:

[240skyline]

Buy the R32 markers and use them as a template to cut out of the zenki fenders and shape-form with glasss, reinforced with some fleece for rigidity. Basically a lot of measuring, trimming, sanding, and shaping.


Thnx alot dude.I was hopin that would wrk but I didn't want to buy the markers unless I was sure.What about the grill I'll probably have to get a skyline one too eh?Is there anywhere I might be able to get clear R32 markers that you know of cause I've been searchin and came up short.


And all the trash talkers out there it's not my fault that I was born with a creative mind and a good eye so stop hatin and maybe you'll learn somethin.
P.S. I would just buy an R32 and get it over with but in Canada they don't meet crash standards.

[mike13]

And all the trash talkers out there it's not my fault that I was born with a creative mind and I good eye so stop hatin and maybe you'll learn somethin.

I good eye? that explains your taste in pointless and ugly conversions.
And I dont think that most of the people in this thread will learn anything from a Canadian n00b who comes out swinging at mods and respected long time members.
GTFO.

[240skyline]

I good eye? that explains your taste in pointless and ugly conversions.
And I dont think that most of the people in this thread will learn anything from a Canadian n00b who comes out swinging at mods and respected long time members.
GTFO.



Dude whatever...grow up. :bs:

[ThatGuy]

Welcome to Zilvia, look around for a while and I'm sure you'll learn that if it doesn't improve performance, it's usually ridiculed. R32 lights on an S14 does nothing to improve performance = you get a mild flaming. Now an R32 engine in your S14 could possibly improve it's performance = you would find individuals willing to give you advice. Ricers have killed the conversion idea (thank god), but it is still your car, so feel free to do whatever you want to it. But please don't get butt-hurt if we don't share your enthusiasm.

[240skyline]

Welcome to Zilvia, look around for a while and I'm sure you'll learn that if it doesn't improve performance, it's usually ridiculed. R32 lights on an S14 does nothing to improve performance = you get a mild flaming. Now an R32 engine in your S14 could possibly improve it's performance = you would find individuals willing to give you advice. Ricers have killed the conversion idea (thank god), but it is still your car, so feel free to do whatever you want to it. But please don't get butt-hurt if we don't share your enthusiasm.



Ya I feel that man.Likewise.I'm not just buiding a performance monster I want somethin original and really eye appealing and at least it's not a civic with a skyline kit or some cross mod POS.Where I come from it's all civics and Preludes and a 95 240 fully Japped out with projectors and SR20 will be unheard of.Thats why I do it.

[ThatGuy]

If you want projectors that bad, just go with a Kouki swap. It would be alot easier then a R32 custom job, and the lines would match up. Don't worry about standing out with body mods. Stand out by having a clean car that you can actually drive. Body-mods were cool and all, but whats going on behind the wheel is alot cooler then what the front end looks like.

[BSeay]

Body-mods were cool and all, but whats going on behind the wheel is alot cooler then what the front end looks like.


Word i hear that...

[240skyline]

If you want projectors that bad, just go with a Kouki swap. It would be alot easier then a R32 custom job, and the lines would match up. Don't worry about standing out with body mods. Stand out by having a clean car that you can actually drive. Body-mods were cool and all, but whats going on behind the wheel is alot cooler then what the front end looks like.



Awesome thanks for the advice man.I'm new @ all this so everything is T&E.I like power and the 240 I now realize can be a serious rocket and its a hot looking car. There are some Darkened Zenki lights on rare trick.com I've been thinking about. :werd:

[zero.counter]

Ya I feel that man.Likewise.I'm not just buiding a performance monster I want somethin original and really eye appealing and at least it's not a civic with a skyline kit or some cross mod POS.Where I come from it's all civics and Preludes and a 95 240 fully Japped out with projectors and SR20 will be unheard of.Thats why I do it.
Don't worry about what anyone says, in attempts to bust morale. I admire your initiative. That being said, uphold your perserverance, even against the collective minds who think a like and do not wish to deviate into unknown territory for whatever reason. Many are intimidated by what you are attempting to do and fear as well brings out emotions and opinions which are not helpful or favorable.

As for the grill, I would suggest buying the whole headlight/sidemarker/grill set and removing the zenki front for a good measurement project. The hood may have to be die-grinded a bit for sake of the headlights. I would fabricate some brackets for the grill with those heavy-duty aluminum brackets from any home improvement store, L-Brackets. The angle at which the R32 lights come in may be too drastic and require you to move the brackets out toward the bumper about an inch so that they not only line up fine, but give clearance for the grill so that there will be minimal gapage.

[240skyline]

But keeping it real it is all about performance I've been doing so much suspension shit just in prep for the new engine.

[zero.counter]

Body-mods were cool and all, but whats going on behind the wheel is alot cooler then what the front end looks like.
What is this, a commentary?

[ThatGuy]

Commentary - No
Helpful Advice - Yes
:D :D :D

[240skyline]

Don't worry about what anyone says, in attempts to bust morale. I admire your initiative. That being said, uphold your perserverance, even against the collective minds who think a like and do not wish to deviate into unknown territory for whatever reason. Many are intimidated by what you are attempting to do and fear as well brings out emotions and opinions which are not helpful or favorable.

As for the grill, I would suggest buying the whole headlight/sidemarker/grill set and removing the zenki front for a good measurement project. The hood may have to be die-grinded a bit for sake of the headlights. I would fabricate some brackets for the grill with those heavy-duty aluminum brackets from any home improvement store, L-Brackets. The angle at which the R32 lights come in may be too drastic and require you to move the brackets out toward the bumper about an inch so that they not only line up fine, but give clearance for the grill so that there will be minimal gapage.

I appreciate the help...your version actually is alot easier than what I came up with in the beggining.These ppl don't bother me they just don't understand.I'm not a mechanic or a body man but I haven't paid a red cent in labor to do any of my mods so far and don't plan on ever paying.I rely on the ppl I work with and good ppl I meet on the net that actually have knowledge to teach me.And driving is my passion so there definatley will be equal attention payed to the powertrain and already on the suspension as the rest of the car.

[zero.counter]

But keeping it real it is all about performance
Keeping it real is about being true to yourself and beliefs while not letting other influence your way of thinking to please them. That, in itself, is the opposite of "REAL".

Some do maintain their individuality where others don't when under fire.


Good Day :)

[pruto]

mmm, dude, have you ever SEEN r32 lights on a s14? UGLY!

i don't really care if cars or people go all show or whatever, fine with me. Most people don't give s15 swaps crap because its a really pretty front end, for that kinda money, you can probably buy a turbo kit or a SR20, but hey, whatever your money. To rephase, looks good, okay, most people don't mind body mods and won't give you that "whats under the hood counts and body mods are wasteful" crap. We rip on ricers cause they spend money on useless body/show mods that makes the car look BAD, not tasteful, or hot.

So please, know what is ugly, and for sure know what it will look like before attempting it!! The reason why its rarely done is cause it looks messed up. People confuse with rarely done with never thought up before. Rarely done means something is wrong, never thought up before... well, you're going to have to try a lot harder. There is just something about the R32 lights... but they look wrong on anything else. I wish i had a picture to show you, but i'm sure someone else can post something up.

I give you props for TRYING to be different and do your own thing and willing to put in the effort to custom and fab and all that other crap. But do something else. maybe s13 lights on a s14? or hell, something crazier and never attempted before. whatever, but R32 lights have been attempted before by adventurous individuals (mainly cause the r32 and zenki s14 fronts look very similar) and i have yet to see good results.

[240skyline]

Keeping it real is about being true to yourself and beliefs while not letting other influence your way of thinking to please them. That, in itself, is the opposite of "REAL".

Some do maintain their individuality where others don't when under fire.


Good Day :)


It's not that I'm caving it's that the driving part has always been why I bought this particular car.And performance has always been what it's about but I did start this thread to get help on my conversion I just found it better to let ppl know that I am not 100% looks not 100% performance and not 100% sound I am 33.333333333333333333% into all of that. :rawk:

[zero.counter]

It's not that I'm caving it's that the driving part has always been why I bought this particular car.And performance has always been what it's about but I did start this thread to get help on my conversion I just found it better to let ppl know that I am not 100% looks not 100% performance and not 100% sound I am 33.333333333333333333% into all of that. :rawk:
Duely noted....keep on keeping on then! :)

[yudalicious]

i concur... I have yet to see ONE that does look good, I believe yuo might be find some pics going around diff forums... w/ that said, it is good and you have the right attitude, BUT as you said you are not a professional so I really doubt the result will be good looking, to be blunt.



mmm, dude, have you ever SEEN r32 lights on a s14? UGLY!

i don't really care if cars or people go all show or whatever, fine with me. Most people don't give s15 swaps crap because its a really pretty front end, for that kinda money, you can probably buy a turbo kit or a SR20, but hey, whatever your money. To rephase, looks good, okay, most people don't mind body mods and won't give you that "whats under the hood counts and body mods are wasteful" crap. We rip on ricers cause they spend money on useless body/show mods that makes the car look BAD, not tasteful, or hot.

So please, know what is ugly, and for sure know what it will look like before attempting it!! The reason why its rarely done is cause it looks messed up. People confuse with rarely done with never thought up before. Rarely done means something is wrong, never thought up before... well, you're going to have to try a lot harder. There is just something about the R32 lights... but they look wrong on anything else. I wish i had a picture to show you, but i'm sure someone else can post something up.

I give you props for TRYING to be different and do your own thing and willing to put in the effort to custom and fab and all that other crap. But do something else. maybe s13 lights on a s14? or hell, something crazier and never attempted before. whatever, but R32 lights have been attempted before by adventurous individuals (mainly cause the r32 and zenki s14 fronts look very similar) and i have yet to see good results.

[240skyline]

i concur... I have yet to see ONE that does look good, I believe yuo might be find some pics going around diff forums... w/ that said, it is good and you have the right attitude, BUT as you said you are not a professional so I really doubt the result will be good looking, to be blunt.


Guess I won't know till I try eh.....the lights will look good if I could move them more towards the middle but I'm thinking theres gonna be this huge gap there between the marker and the headlight.This one definatley wont be a solo job.

[SilviaDriver]

just let the kid do watever he wants with his car. at the end of the day..juss know you dont have to drive the ugly modded s14. simple.

[sleep]

i have seen pictures posted on here of it in the past.....and it looks horrendus. Its the worst looking conversion for the car. Shit if you want to do anything like that go S15. Expensive but will look 1000X better then R32.....

[240skyline]

i have seen pictures posted on here of it in the past.....and it looks horrendus. Its the worst looking conversion for the car. Shit if you want to do anything like that go S15. Expensive but will look 1000X better then R32.....




HAHAHA.......you guys crack me up.Thnx your advice rocks I SO appreciate it.I won't do anything that won't stun and if it gets down to it and it truly looks like sheeeit I'll be scrapping it but for now I'm yet to see one.Being an artist everything is T&E and you fuck with stuff till it looks right.

[ThatGuy]

Try using the search button here on the forums. I just did and found numerous threads about this same swap. If you dig deep enough you can find pics too, at least of unfinished projects. It still looks like alot of fabrication and filling to me. I still think you should go with Kouki, if projectors are that big of a deal to you.

[zero.counter]

Being an artist everything is T&E and you fuck with stuff till it looks right.
This brings a tear to my eye...:(
Just let me know if you need any suggestions! :)

[240skyline]

Try using the search button here on the forums. I just did and found numerous threads about this same swap. If you dig deep enough you can find pics too, at least of unfinished projects. It still looks like alot of fabrication and filling to me. I still think you should go with Kouki, if projectors are that big of a deal to you.



Now would I be abl to use the kouki headlights with my side markers and Zenki front bumper?

[the240sxer95]

well you can use skyline r32 gts-t head lights, but not GTR ones. it's slighty different fitting and will fit on a zenki 240, but you have to use a kouki s14 grill.



duct tape fixes everything

[ThatGuy]

No, you need all Kouki parts. Fenders, hood, headlights, turn signals, and bumper. But it all bolts on, no fabrication needed.

[240skyline]

This brings a tear to my eye...:(
Just let me know if you need any suggestions! :)



Hahaha thnx man.I am just up in the air with the whole front end I want projectors but I want to keep my bumper.I wish they just made Zenki projectors and I'd be a happy guy.I'm sick of that cheap plastic yellow crappy headlight look.This is the driving force behind my conversion.I've seen glass zenki headlights OEM too but on the net they don't look all that hot.We'll screw with things till I get somethin that looks killer.

[240skyline]

No, you need all Kouki parts. Fenders, hood, headlights, turn signals, and bumper. But it all bolts on, no fabrication needed.



Ah shitty because I wanted the bumper because the Zenki fog lights I think are hot and with a front lip spoiler,factory side skirts,silvia rear spoiler and LE rear bumper that would complete the body look I want along with a lot cleaner headlamp assembly(not ugly yellow ones) :rl:

[Ian]

eh, the skyline idea is pure garbage...some artist you are


no offense but you have no artistic eye, you might wanna change fields before you get in it too deep...the R32 and the S14 have such conflicting lines, the R32 is very edgy and sharp, the S14 (especially zenki) is very smooth and round. You just may not combine them, it cannot be done and look good. If u really want that "japped" out look and u really must have projectors, i suggest AT LEAST trying the R33 headlights, they're rounder, (as is the entire body of the car) and will fit an S14 much better

[pruto]

german glass zenki headlights, 550 from courtesy parts, clearer than you can imagine. you can do your projector conversion with that.

i dunno why no one has show a pic yet (of the R32s) oh well.

[240skyline]

eh, the skyline idea is pure garbage...some artist you are


no offense but you have no artistic eye, you might wanna change fields before you get in it too deep...the R32 and the S14 have such conflicting lines, the R32 is very edgy and sharp, the S14 (especially zenki) is very smooth and round. You just may not combine them, it cannot be done and look good. If u really want that "japped" out look and u really must have projectors, i suggest AT LEAST trying the R33 headlights, they're rounder, (as is the entire body of the car) and will fit an S14 much better



Ok man learn to read b4 you criticize.I am an artist.And I haven't totally commited to anything yet.I still have my factory lights I haven't hacked up my car yet.But when all I have to work with is pictures I got to use trial and error to figure out what looks good.Some ppl are just fuckin ignorant. :mepoke:

[240skyline]

german glass zenki headlights, 550 from courtesy parts, clearer than you can imagine. you can do your projector conversion with that.

i dunno why no one has show a pic yet (of the R32s) oh well.



Sweet have you seen those in person?And how would I convert those to projectors?

[mrmephistopheles]

I'm sick of that cheap plastic yellow crappy headlight look.

Buy my Final Konnexion clear headlamp covers, then.
http://www.finalkonnexion.co.jp/s14~mc_f_red.jpg

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=62065

[the240sxer95]

Ah shitty because I wanted the bumper because the Zenki fog lights I think are hot and with a front lip spoiler,factory side skirts,silvia rear spoiler and LE rear bumper that would complete the body look I want along with a lot cleaner headlamp assembly(not ugly yellow ones) :rl:


what does a LE bumper to you look like?

[Ian]

ok, so i'm ignorant and you're an artist


i'm gonna go pick up mickey mouse and michael jordan for drinks now. i'll talk to u later man

[ZenkiSE]

Group hug people ....group hug

[240skyline]

Aight guys this whole negative feedback thing got me searchin.I searched and searched and searched.Finally I found a past forum and from there I found some links and in those links I found some pics.Those pics absolutley changed my mind.Where I would have to mount the headlights makes the front end look like shit all the lines get fucked up.After all this I think I'm gonna check into those glass lights and theres actually a nice set I found on raretrick.com.Those who helped thanks.Haters who question my artistic ability on this forum I feel sorry for you it's sad that you automatically attack ppl because of their Ideas and for that you'll never be anything significant.



Exhaust does fuck with your brain

[ThatGuy]

Glad you took my advice.
Try using the search button here on the forums.

[240skyline]

what does a LE bumper to you look like?


The LE rear bumper has a lip as opposed to the current base model bumper that I have now that doesn't :bash:

[Ian]

lol that post was so lame man...why dont you just admit you were wrong? i was bashing your idea so hard cuz i KNEW it would be ugly. because i too have "artistic vision" and i can figure it out...R32 front coincidentally bolts up to the S13 w/ a few modifications...form there i thought..."hey the silvia front would look like ass on an S14" then i went...well if that's so then maybe the R32 would look like ass on S14 too! then i posted

maybe YOU'RE the hater because ur just mad i was right...asshole


i thought artists knew when to admit their faults? oh wait...nevermind

[240skyline]

[QUOTE=mrmephistopheles]Buy my Final Konnexion clear headlamp covers, then.
http://www.finalkonnexion.co.jp/s14~mc_f_red.jpg

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=62065[/QUOTE


Is that your ride?Those lihghts look good where'd you get the markers and headlights?

[mrmephistopheles]

Is that your ride?Those lihghts look good where'd you get the markers and headlights?

w0rd. Same place, man.. Final Konnexion! Headlights are stock with Final Konnexion covers.

[240skyline]

lol that post was so lame man...why dont you just admit you were wrong? i was bashing your idea so hard cuz i KNEW it would be ugly. because i too have "artistic vision" and i can figure it out...R32 front coincidentally bolts up to the S13 w/ a few modifications...form there i thought..."hey the silvia front would look like ass on an S14" then i went...well if that's so then maybe the R32 would look like ass on S14 too! then i posted

maybe YOU'RE the hater because ur just mad i was right...asshole









i thought artists knew when to admit their faults? oh wait...nevermind





Relax dude...lol
don't you have a date with michael jordan and mickey?

[240skyline]

w0rd. Same place, man.. Final Konnexion! Headlights are stock with Final Konnexion covers.




They have a website right?Let me guess finalkonnexion.com right? :D

[chokudoriS13]

P.S. I would just buy an R32 and get it over with but in Canada they don't meet crash standards.


Hey, dodo... Look into Canada's DOT rules. You have something called a 15-year exemption, making early R32's completely legal to own with no conversion necessary....

:duh: :rl: :mepoke: :confused: :stupid:

[mrmephistopheles]

They have a website right?Let me guess finalkonnexion.com right? :D
http://www.finalkonnexion.co.jp

[ThatGuy]

You can buy the Headlight covers right here, Kendal. Click this Text (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=62065)

[pruto]

glass headlights rockzors. never seen them in person, but people say they are awesome, and actually higher quality and s15 lights.

dude, so you're telling me that was the first time you saw a picture of r32 lights on a s14? *sigh* told you it was messed up.

[old_s13]

R32 headlamps are pretty much identical internal-wise with S14 97-98 headlamps

both of which, are crap halogen projectors.

enjoy

[SR240DET]

whew!... moral.. dont buy conversion head lights... either way.. itll be crap inside... thats why i keep my zenki crap head lights that i cleaned...

[Apollyon]

And all the trash talkers out there it's not my fault that I was born with a creative mind and a good eye so stop hatin and maybe you'll learn somethin.

FYI, taking something a bazillion people have done already and applying it to another car is not creative.

[MakotoS13]

Some ppl are just fuckin ignorant. :mepoke:

like you. yeah, and nelly is an artist... RIIIIIIGHT...

just admit it. you want a skyline so badly that you're willing to hack up a zenki in order to make the nose look similar enough to tell people that it is a skyline.

i can't wait till you give up.

[old_s13]

i think the closest thing, if anything.. has been the j30 headlamps.. but even then. r33 lamps are okay too, but they're all still crap headlamps.

if it was ME, ide pickup the german lamps and put projectors in those. atleast they're worth it.

[240skyline]

i think the closest thing, if anything.. has been the j30 headlamps.. but even then. r33 lamps are okay too, but they're all still crap headlamps.

if it was ME, ide pickup the german lamps and put projectors in those. atleast they're worth it.



Ya I agree I'm 99% sure thats what I'm doin now.

[240skyline]

like you. yeah, and nelly is an artist... RIIIIIIGHT...

just admit it. you want a skyline so badly that you're willing to hack up a zenki in order to make the nose look similar enough to tell people that it is a skyline.

i can't wait till you give up.



lol Ya I want ppl to think I have a skyline...dude plz. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[ThatGuy]

Ya I agree I'm 99% sure thats what I'm doin now.

j30, R33, or German Lamps?

[240skyline]

j30, R33, or German Lamps?



German glass...I might convert them to projectors but we'll see..I'm gettin to wrapped up in this and it was just a spontaneous notion.I'm workin on suspension and savin for an engine and getting sidtracked by the BLING.

[PBucch]

this thread is hilarious

[-E-]

R32 Lights
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/HEYICU/R322401.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/HEYICU/R32240.jpg
J30 Lights
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/HEYICU/357110_1_full.jpg

[wootwoot]

jesus christ those r32 lights are hidious..... the j30 lights look decent, it might just be the picture though. 240skyline, your acting kind of childish lashing out at everyone who has a comment on your idea. by the way, dont you want to tell people you have a skyline? i mean, look at your handle and all.

[MakotoS13]

lol Ya I want ppl to think I have a skyline...dude plz. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

yeah, fag, i said it. look at your name. you can't have a skyline so this is your way of coping with it.

at least be honest with yourself, dude.

[mrmephistopheles]

yeah, fag, i said it. look at your name. you can't have a skyline so this is your way of coping with it.

at least be honest with yourself, dude.


Makoto, STFU. :squint:

[silviasichigo]

I was going to do the same thing about a year ago but I never went through with it. I have pics of the set up completed but but it had alot of gaps and the alignment for the marker lights was really off and stuck out.

[240skyline]

I was going to do the same thing about a year ago but I never went through with it. I have pics of the set up completed but but it had alot of gaps and the alignment for the marker lights was really off and stuck out.


Ya I went back to an old forum and seen the pics of them on your car.It was those pics that changed my mind.If they could be mounted more towards the center they might look better but you'd need custom markers in order for it to look good.I'm scrappin it,just too much work I got other things that I got to get on the car in my very little spare time b4 I put it away for the winter.

[240skyline]

R32 Lights
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/HEYICU/R322401.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/HEYICU/R32240.jpg
J30 Lights
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/HEYICU/357110_1_full.jpg



In the dark the R32's look ok, but in the light you can see how messed up the gap is between the headlights and the markers.Thanks for the pics dude.

[240skyline]

Makoto, STFU. :squint:


Thanks man this guys just immature I don't even care.

[wootwoot]

your not being mature either so shhhh, quit lashing out at everyone

[MakotoS13]

Thanks man this guys just immature I don't even care.

yeah it's a good thing meph stopped me cause its possible to depict how completely retarded you actually are.

/sarcasm

experienced people are telling you stuff that you want to ignore and rationalize because you can't simply be honest with yourself. i may be a jackass sometimes but at the very least i'm honest with myself.

[mrmephistopheles]

Thanks man this guys just immature I don't even care.

You STFU, too. I wasn't defending you, I was enforcing the rules.

[old_s13]

I was enforcing the rules.

ooooooooooooooooooooooh! you guys are in TROUUUUUUUBLEEEEEEEEEEE... Troubllle........ trouuuuble.....

im TELLLLLLLING............... Telling................... tellling...

heh

[RBS14]

^^^^^^

hahah. best post in this entire thread.

[Jeff240sx]

You all are gay.