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drag-sr20
11-28-2015, 02:36 PM
So im looking to buy coilovers for my s14, and I i have some in mind, overall is if you have the ones i mention and how do they ride ( drifting & Mostly daily driving ) and how LOW do they go. Post some pics for me to have a better idea. I'm looking to grab some 17x9 wheels only, may consider 18x9 but thats it.
What i had in mind was:
BC Racing BR type Coils - from enjuku
Megan Racing track Series Coilover - from frsport
d2 coilovers
Isr HR pro series coilovers- from enjuku
List pros and con or just opinions
I have done research but want your thoughts on these specific
turboshoebox
11-28-2015, 03:09 PM
None of those are any good. What you need are these babies right here.
http://www.rhdjapan.com/dg-5-coilover-suspension-nissan-s14-s15-r32-r33-r34-c33-a31-c35.html
http://d1vv73x37cbx43.cloudfront.net/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/9d3082b4bec2d774d16a712307ac9d2a/5/1/51644-2_17.jpg
Chernobyl
11-28-2015, 03:31 PM
BC Racing BR type Coils - from enjuku
Megan Racing track Series Coilover - from frsport
d2 coilovers
Isr HR pro series coilovers- from enjuku
List pros and con or just opinions
These all suck. Stance are the cheapest coilovers you should consider.
What about the new prime coilovers, that fortune auto is a parent company to?
turboshoebox
11-28-2015, 03:59 PM
Fortune auto sucks too. Just some red neck company from the south that makes bs coilovers
SignSomething
11-28-2015, 06:45 PM
I owned stance coilovers on my s13 for a couple years and hated them. They rode way to stiff and the dampening never felt matched to the spring rate. I have rode in a s13 with BC coilovers and it was aweful.
I now own a set of Feal coilovers with custom spring rates and so far they have been the best riding by a long shot.
beems240sx
11-28-2015, 06:49 PM
I've had stance on my s14 and didn't like them. The were very rough and in Chicago rusted insanely fast. I had bc on my Acura TL and it rode pretty well, for a cheap coilovers. Fortune auto and bc are both gas filled in the US so their quality control is a little higher than the others. I've heard many good things about feal but no personal experience.
Rodster
11-28-2015, 07:06 PM
In the same position.
Need Coilovers on S13 for drifting.
I was recommended Stance and BC
coupesallday!
11-28-2015, 08:44 PM
Why not powered by max coils? I've had them on my s14 and they're fucken awesome. Great quality coilover for around $1200
drag-sr20
11-28-2015, 09:20 PM
Fortune auto sucks too. Just some red neck company from the south that makes bs coilovers
haha seriously !!! heard lots of good reviews and from others
drag-sr20
11-28-2015, 09:24 PM
Why not powered by max coils? I've had them on my s14 and they're fucken awesome. Great quality coilover for around $1200
yeah cant complain about pbm. but i was just seeing if there was something good out there under 1000$
drag-sr20
11-28-2015, 09:26 PM
I've had stance on my s14 and didn't like them. The were very rough and in Chicago rusted insanely fast. I had bc on my Acura TL and it rode pretty well, for a cheap coilovers. Fortune auto and bc are both gas filled in the US so their quality control is a little higher than the others. I've heard many good things about feal but no personal experience.
how low does the BC coils go.? any pics of your TL
dizzariot
11-29-2015, 07:37 AM
yeah cant complain about pbm. but i was just seeing if there was something good out there under 1000$
No. Save your money.
ComicArtist
11-29-2015, 08:24 AM
You should never spend less than $1000 on coilovers, as a rule of thumb
dukiespice
11-29-2015, 08:25 AM
yeah cant complain about pbm. but i was just seeing if there was something good out there under 1000$
Please don't cheap out on an important part. I use pbm and there great.
beems240sx
11-29-2015, 10:46 AM
how low does the BC coils go.? any pics of your TL
Very. Well at least on that chassis. I could just barely tuck wheel in the front without removing collars. I'm probably going bc on my s13, but I blew money on te37's. Just save up more and buy a nicer coilover. I should head my own advice actually.. But whatever.
dtfdanyo
11-29-2015, 11:31 AM
I had the BC extreme drop kit coilovers, they were very nice. I was about a finger gap between my tire and fender with plenty of room to go lower. I was on the default spring rate but they were fine on the shitty Houston roads.
codyace
11-29-2015, 11:34 AM
It's all the same stuff
It's all the same crap
It's all the same performance
It's different annodization, it's different street cred, and it's a difference of how 'low' they can drop you.
Goto an approved vendor, get what you can afford, and be happy...as at the end of the day, it's all the same entry level street junk.
Seriously though, it's not like you're ever going to be a drift superstar, it's highly unlikely you're going to become some nationally known road racer...so get what you can afford and have fun with it.
dizzariot
11-29-2015, 11:37 AM
It's all the same stuff
It's all the same crap
It's all the same performance
It's different annodization, it's different street cred, and it's a difference of how 'low' they can drop you.
Goto an approved vendor, get what you can afford, and be happy...as at the end of the day, it's all the same entry level street junk.
Seriously though, it's not like you're ever going to be a drift superstar, it's highly unlikely you're going to become some nationally known road racer...so get what you can afford and have fun with it.
I use FEAL because Odi does his own valving and uses Swift springs. From what I recall he came from an offroad racing background and was already developing suspension parts for that area. When he got into drifting he did the same.
OP seems to be the typical new dude.
tlieberman240
11-29-2015, 12:34 PM
Megan and ISR are the eptiome of garbage..like barely a step above Raceland. D2 and BC still suck. FA is better but every car I've ridden in that had them rode like absolute shit.
Stiffer doesn't automatically mean better....
For the $1000-$1500 range, I'd look at:
STANCE, PBM, Feal, HKS, & Apex'i
Juucso
11-29-2015, 12:38 PM
Megan and ISR are the eptiome of garbage..like barely a step above Raceland. D2 and BC still suck. FA is better but every car I've ridden in that had them rode like absolute shit.
Stiffer doesn't automatically mean better....
For the $1000-$1500 range, I'd look at:
STANCE, PBM, Feal, HKS, & Apex'i
In range of 1-1.5K is 326power any good? :)
tlieberman240
11-29-2015, 12:44 PM
In range of 1-1.5K is 326power any good? :)
Never been in a car that had them, so I didn't put them on the list. I won't recommend anything I haven't had personal experience with.
dizzariot
11-29-2015, 05:12 PM
In range of 1-1.5K is 326power any good? :)
Should've known this is the the ONE brand you'd ask about. A comprehensive list of quality shit is posted and you want the Need For Speed parts.
burnsauto
11-29-2015, 06:11 PM
I've had personal experience with JIC's, Silkroads, and Apex'i N1's. The JIC's were the biggest disappointment out of any of them, and the Silkroads are great for the price. Right now I'm currently running Apex'i N1's and have zero complaints about them. A great street setup with a balanced 6/6 spring rate front/rear, and even at their softest setting, they are responsive and predictable. Changes won't be drastic between a few clicks, but you'll see results when you tighten up the dampeners. No complaints with the quality of the parts, and they will go as low as you'd like (but then you run into other problems - roll center, etc etc). If I had to do it all over again, I'd run the same exact coils I am right now.
A few others you'd want to consider
Silkroad
KW's (V1 or V2's for a more budget minded setup)
dorkjoey240
11-29-2015, 06:31 PM
I never liked megans and never bought BC so I don't know. Fortune auto were decent coilovers to me.
beems240sx
11-29-2015, 06:37 PM
http://www.frsport.com/DMAX-CS-S13-Super-Street-Suspension-Kit---NIssan-180SX-S13-Silvia_p_352039.html
How are Dmax? Anyone have them?
RB180sxChris
11-29-2015, 07:51 PM
I have D-MAX SUPER STREETS on my s14 they feel amazing!
silviamang
11-29-2015, 08:21 PM
http://www.frsport.com/DMAX-CS-S13-Super-Street-Suspension-Kit---NIssan-180SX-S13-Silvia_p_352039.html
How are Dmax? Anyone have them?
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=255569
I am surprised they are so cheap now, this was a helpful thread.
beems240sx
11-29-2015, 08:23 PM
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=255569
I am surprised they are so cheap now, this was a helpful thread.
I read through that thread. It's just 6 years old. Didn't really see anything recent for reviews. I'll probably give them a try. I mean for that cheap... Can't complain
Atill93
11-29-2015, 08:28 PM
Fortune auto sucks too. Just some red neck company from the south that makes bs coilovers
i've only heard good things about fortune auto...
No. Save your money.
he's right. i bought my s13 and the next week i bought $400 ebay coilovers (emusa) and i should've just saved for pbm's like i'm doing now
kashira kureijii
11-29-2015, 09:39 PM
fortune autos come with a fucking diploma, what more could you want
giant killer
11-30-2015, 03:15 PM
for what it's worth.. i bought ISIS pro's on there black friday deal.. with sr turbo lines too.. 650 shipped..
considering my hooptie has a blow right front and left rear and crab walks.. i feel like it's a worth while investment.. worst case scenario.. i hawk them to some local bro..
i'm posting here to remind myself to give you a review..
Juucso
11-30-2015, 03:31 PM
Should've known this is the the ONE brand you'd ask about. A comprehensive list of quality shit is posted and you want the Need For Speed parts.
How should I know what is "Need For Speed" part if I can't find reviews of them? I can find only few that are in English and zero in Finnish. All I can find is "oh oh, I think they're gay, because you have pink as an color opinion" and other shit like that.. :face palm:
I'm just trying to find some good reviews of products so I know what I'm paying for. Please, if you know anyone who has compared 326powers to other "Non Need For Speed" parts let me know. :)
D2 and BC Racing are the most popular coilover brands in Finland and I have heard pretty crappy reviews of them.
dizzariot
11-30-2015, 11:24 PM
How should I know what is "Need For Speed" part if I can't find reviews of them? I can find only few that are in English and zero in Finnish. All I can find is "oh oh, I think they're gay, because you have pink as an color opinion" and other shit like that.. :face palm:
I'm just trying to find some good reviews of products so I know what I'm paying for. Please, if you know anyone who has compared 326powers to other "Non Need For Speed" parts let me know. :)
D2 and BC Racing are the most popular coilover brands in Finland and I have heard pretty crappy reviews of them.
No man I'm saying you're simply going for the 'flashy' item on your already 'flashy' build. There have been several VERY good options listed here for less than the price of 326 but since they don't have as much SwAAaG they're overlooked.
turboshoebox
12-01-2015, 01:20 AM
As a general rule stick to Japanese brands. The quality is typically good to very good.
Then again generally the price reflects it as well. The chinese or american brands like auto futune typically are much lower so it usually reflect what you are getting.
Juucso
12-01-2015, 05:52 AM
No man I'm saying you're simply going for the 'flashy' item on your already 'flashy' build. There have been several VERY good options listed here for less than the price of 326 but since they don't have as much SwAAaG they're overlooked.
I know that example HKS makes really good quality products! Dad does have several HKS parts on his JZA80. :) I have heard good and bad reviews of Tein and Apex'i products. 326power is something new to me so I want to see more reviews of it so I could know are they good as the few reviews say or are they made with huge hype of the "flashy" product.
My goal is not to make a flashy S13, my goal is make the car look like I want it to look! Maybe the style is overrated, but there is nothing I can do about it. :-/
Turboshoe; exactly, 326power is designed in Japan, but I can not find where they're made. That is why I tried Zilvia on my problem. I hope someone could help me. :)
RB25GUY
12-01-2015, 07:21 AM
Ive had my tein super drift coils for about 5 years now and they are bad ass i love the stiffness.
damper settings can be adjusted via edfc i still have the helper spring in the back helps with the ride quality just a little bit i daily drove this car snow rain etc not a ounce of rust on the coils or springs very responsive coilover setup.
nice set of tires, arms, bushings and a good lsd (i have the ATS 2 way deftforce i love it) car will feel like you're on rails, although if you're not always on alert the lsd can bite you bad in the rain or snow. I love how you're in control with the harsh lsd lock and the on off throttle feel. Everyone is different!
Juucso
12-01-2015, 08:46 AM
Ive had my tein super drift coils for about 5 years now and they are bad ass i love the stiffness.
damper settings can be adjusted via edfc i still have the helper spring in the back helps with the ride quality just a little bit i daily drove this car snow rain etc not a ounce of rust on the coils or springs very responsive coilover setup.
nice set of tires, arms, bushings and a good lsd (i have the ATS 2 way deftforce i love it) car will feel like you're on rails, although if you're not always on alert the lsd can bite you bad in the rain or snow. I love how you're in control with the harsh lsd lock and the on off throttle feel. Everyone is different!
What spring rates are you using? :) I am thinking about getting really really stiff springs. Maybe 20KG/MM to front and 16KG/MM to rear. This is because I want my car to be low and we do not have the best roads Finland. :hs:
RB25GUY
12-01-2015, 09:12 AM
I believe they are 10k fronts and 8k rears.
Juucso
12-01-2015, 09:33 AM
I believe they are 10k fronts and 8k rears.
Thank you! Well here stands the problem, every brand I try to look for is under 12/10k setups from factory. New springs will make the coilovers cost around 1800-2000usd. I think you can get 326power ones with custom spring rates and it doesn't cost that much. They would be straight ready from the package and no need to wait the new springs to come from factory. :) And what I have seen and read is that a lot of people in Japan use 326power products. I'll try to ask their opinions of the coils trough Facebook.
RB25GUY
12-01-2015, 09:36 AM
never go wrong with 326 i have a buddy who deals with them pm me ill send you his email info.
badbob2121
12-01-2015, 10:14 AM
I've had Tein SS on my S13 for like 6 years now, all in good shape and are not seized or rusty at all... and I drive harder than you pussies..
Crazyced
12-01-2015, 10:23 AM
I personally bought some Apexi N1 ExV on special for 900. I have yet to put them on but I'm looking forward to give them a try. This will be a track only car so no snow, salt, potholes or other road hazards to deal with.
dizzariot
12-01-2015, 12:02 PM
As a general rule stick to Japanese brands. The quality is typically good to very good.
Then again generally the price reflects it as well. The chinese or american brands like auto futune typically are much lower so it usually reflect what you are getting.
Proving how much of a twat you are, once again.
Dig deep enough and you'll see that most 'big' Japanese companies outsource to China...but someone as experienced as you knows this, I'm assuming.
Silverbullet
12-01-2015, 12:58 PM
Proving how much of a twat you are, once again.
Dig deep enough and you'll see that most 'big' Japanese companies outsource to China...but someone as experienced as you knows this, I'm assuming.
Even the American ones. The dampers come from China, and rest of the coilover is Assembled/Built in the USA or whatever buzz word they use.
2muchboost
12-01-2015, 01:07 PM
FA 500 w/Swift Spring upgrade. Drives like a dream, cant wait to swap these in and get the Megan ones out. BTW...custom valving setup for LS1 (no drifting) through Enjuku. Ken has been and will continue to be the man. I have dealt with him for various parts and projects with 0 complaints.
LockOn!
12-01-2015, 01:33 PM
BC Racing BR type Coils - from enjuku
Megan Racing track Series Coilover - from frsport
d2 coilovers
Isr HR pro series coilovers- from enjuku
All garbage.
Basically you have 3 tiers of coilover. The poop you just listed, some other poop with better customer service and serviceable parts, then epic full race shit.
Poop: Megan, ISR, D2, etc (cheapy ebay china fun sticks)
Poop with good CS and replacement parts: PBM, Stance, Fortune (basically anything over $1000 mark, arguably similar quality to poop but at least the companies back it up)
Epic race shit: Zeal, Ohlins, etc (more expensive then you can afford)
I've used PBM on multiple cars, called the shop multiple times and always had great CS and all my questions about the products answered to my satisfaction. Just my 2 cents.
Or you could just search next time. You idiot.
dizzariot
12-01-2015, 01:51 PM
FA 500 w/Swift Spring upgrade. Drives like a dream, cant wait to swap these in and get the Megan ones out. BTW...custom valving setup for LS1 (no drifting) through Enjuku. Ken has been and will continue to be the man. I have dealt with him for various parts and projects with 0 complaints.
Hah. Upgrade. Feal comes with Swift springs but all the fucking Hoonigans care about are Stance and Fortune Auto. Then the Paisa guys rock Megan, ISR, and Racelands.
All garbage.
*valid opinions*
Or you could just search next time. You idiot.
Oh stop being mean to the boy. He's trying to learn :jerkit:
STEEZxIT
12-01-2015, 02:27 PM
Or you could just search next time. You idiot.
i laughed
on topic:
i've been looking at feal. i can tell you from personal experience that 6 year old k sport control pros/drift pros/whatevers aren't very good.
LockOn!
12-01-2015, 02:34 PM
Oh stop being mean to the boy. He's trying to learn :jerkit:
I'm pretty sure I've posted the above break down like three times in the last three years. I just like to set up for the punch line :naughty:
God wtf am I even doing here. I haven't owned an S Chassis for awhile now. :picardfp:
driftsucky
12-01-2015, 02:35 PM
I had Tien SS on my S13 back in the day. It was a drift slut and barely driven on public roads (sans the occasional hoon session...I don't remember what we called it back in 04ish, but whatever it was then cuz hoon wasn't yet a thing). They got low (enough) and they didn't blow...so...they were good enough. I honestly don't remember if they were comfy cuz I didn't really care. Since then, in various platforms, I've used KW (chrysler 300C), BC (chrysler 300C and G35), and D2(G35) and they were all fine. The BC's were great on my 300 and I rode ridiculously low. I had no issues whatsoever with them. They were comfy enough for family drives with no complaints. However, the BC's developed a knock on my G35 and I ended up selling them and purchasing D2's with the intent of grabbing some of Edafe's stanceworks Zero Clearance coils which were made by AST. I never ended up doing that but kept my D2's. They were comfy and EXTREMELY low (about an inch of ground clearance). I've had friends on BC's with zero issues so that may have been just me.
I've ridden in a Toyota Aristo with 326Power back in 06 when I took a trip to Japan. My buddy Cody was stationed there and he had them on his car. Giddiness aside, they were legit. But, all we did was cruise around. He did some skids around corners, but nothing to adequately comment on. That said, I did have a soda pop in his car and much like Takumi Fujiwara attacking the mount Akina consecutive 5 turnings while delivering tofu, the liquid did not spill. :D
All that is to say, for what you're doing, get what you can afford. Track suspension on a street car is stupid. But, if the deciding factor is like 200 bux, just save the 200 bux and don't be a cheapo.
2muchboost
12-01-2015, 02:37 PM
Yup FA offers SWIFT springs as an upgrade. Lol at Hoonigan,,,,far from that broski. I bought FA after Drew (Turbo2nr) got a similar setup that drove great even on shitty NY roads. Guess he is Hoonigan as well? I am pretty sure I got my custom FA setup for less than FEAL retails their setup for.
dizzariot
12-01-2015, 05:40 PM
I'm pretty sure I've posted the above break down like three times in the last three years. I just like to set up for the punch line :naughty:
God wtf am I even doing here. I haven't owned an S Chassis for awhile now.
Old habits die hard. That's a response to both parts of this comment lol.
I had Tien SS on my S13 back in the day. It was a drift slut and barely driven on public roads (sans the occasional hoon session...I don't remember what we called it back in 04ish, but whatever it was then cuz hoon wasn't yet a thing).
:keke:
:hide:
Yup FA offers SWIFT springs as an upgrade. Lol at Hoonigan,,,,far from that broski. I bought FA after Drew (Turbo2nr) got a similar setup that drove great even on shitty NY roads. Guess he is Hoonigan as well? I am pretty sure I got my custom FA setup for less than FEAL retails their setup for.
I don't know who Drew is. Does he live on Strong Island?
deolio
12-01-2015, 06:37 PM
i'd just get some megan's and throw swifts on them and call it a day if i were in the market for that budget lyfe tbh
DomChan
12-01-2015, 07:08 PM
Fortune Auto 500s are amazing.
shephurd
12-01-2015, 08:36 PM
Make an Wake of Art R.Y.O RII HiMax Damper
2muchboost
12-01-2015, 08:36 PM
As noted in parenthesis he is a respected Zilvia member. I am certain you have looked over his thread: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=486830. Again, I don't think you would consider his build Hoonigan. Have you ever even been in a car with a proper FA setup or are you just spitting up random info?
Nope Drew lives in Queens. If it makes you feel any better I no longer live in Strong Island either ;)
mhubeny180sx
12-01-2015, 08:57 PM
fortune is garbo, they are like the cosmis of coilovers. not as shitty as raceland (xxr) but slightly better than megan (varrstoen)
all fotm Chinese junk waste of money.
seems like you aren't looking to spend big money or require performance based on your post, so just get a decent set of lowering springs and call her a day.
2muchboost
12-01-2015, 09:24 PM
FA is garbage compared to what? Dude comparing Raceland to FA is ridiculous....you know better than that. For the average person to justify spending the cash for top quality coil overs isn't justified including myself. I got FAs in custom valving and spring rates for rare occasional 1/4 runs and mostly weekend driving. They do a great job for both at the price point. Sure I could get a custom setup made by some friends that are only performance oriented and they would cost more and perform spot on. Realistically how many of us fucktards can justify the cost.
And please enlighten me as to how bad FAs are...not hear-say actual data showing why? All of the data and performance I have seen from them are positive especially within thief price range. Again your statements seem generic. If I was gonna compare these to the custom Bilstein Damptronic setup I had in my M3....it would be a silly comparison.
dizzariot
12-01-2015, 09:29 PM
That fucking mhubeny180sx kid knows nothing. Don't even bother talking to him. He's just trying to fake it until he makes it.
A friend of mine had Fortune Autos. Battle version Arms. Not a nice set of coilovers. What do you mean by 'proper setup'?
collegekid
12-01-2015, 09:34 PM
Pretty much everything that has been posted in this thread is the same general consensus from 2 years ago when I got my coilovers. Probably the same opinions long before that.
I think people on zilvia just chime in on the same repeated topics every few months and then return to bashing the next 20 guys who make the same topic.
You have to realize that most of us have experience only with one set of coilovers in the lifetime of the car. They are not an item that you change every 6 months like sparkplugs. People telling you that they had this set on that car and that set on another car that does not compare. Going for a ride in someones car does not qualify as experience either for two reasons: not enough time to play with settings, and not the same car.
Fortune- "Encounter-with-your-uncle"- autos coils on a G35 has no comparison to an S13 for obvious reasons
turboshoebox
12-02-2015, 12:46 AM
FA are just some shit red neck american coilover company in the south where their product is nothing special. Some how they hyped themselves up to be affordable budget coilovers that get the job done kinda like wilwood. (while they suck too.)
I'm not agaist american companies and japanese ones only. I like SPL parts, I like Stoptech brakes, Maxworx etc.
FA? Garbage
yomisiu
12-02-2015, 06:18 AM
whats a special coilover? one that cost more than your 240? because you totally need those for daily driving and amature drifting.
My FA's were great for said tasks. But you can continue to talk shit about a company you most likely have no personal experience with and without any real info as to why you think they're garbage.
OP, fortunes are great and g0 s0 l0w br0~
KiDyNomiTe
12-02-2015, 07:53 AM
I've owned Silk Roads (a long long time ago), driven quite a bit on Tein HEs (friends car), and driven a lot of cars with a lot of different setups. Personally STANCE has been my favorite. I rode GR+ (or whatever its called now) for many years, broke one of them in a crash, easy to get replacement parts (but I am also local). I switched to the Pro Comps with Swift Springs, these are incredibly amazing, however, I don't think you can get them anymore.
DG5 is probably the only other coilover I have loved more (not talking 2/3 way adjustable things).
Croustibat
12-02-2015, 10:17 AM
FA are just some shit red neck american coilover company in the south where their product is nothing special. Some how they hyped themselves up to be affordable budget coilovers that get the job done kinda like wilwood. (while they suck too.)
I'm not agaist american companies and japanese ones only. I like SPL parts, I like Stoptech brakes, Maxworx etc.
FA? Garbage
2 facts about FAs, according to my experience
-they are faster and more comfy (i have no idea about how low they go) than tein mono flex
-The best lap i could manage on my favorite track with my previous apex coilovers (read megan racing, same thing), after trying many spring rates and damper settings over a couple of years was in the 1mn41s.
I spent a couple of 15mins sessions on a trackday to set the hydraulics on new FA500s, with a car that didn't have enough front camber; at the end of the day, my best lap time was 2 seconds faster already. The next time i went to that track, I used better tyres and then dropped to 1:36, then 1:34. And it was more comfortable than with apex coilovers.
Sure, there are better coilovers than FAs. For $2000+. Thing is, the big difference between them and the megan crap is FAs actually do the job they are supposed to do.
Added bonus: you can ring or mail the company; they know their products, and don't panic when you start asking for test results.
As far as wilwood brakes go, i am running some of them, like many budget racers, and again they do their job very well.
I would really like to read about the reasons you declare these products "garbage". Is that just some random internet hate, or do you have solid facts to back these opinions ?
LockOn!
12-02-2015, 11:03 AM
I think people on zilvia just chime in on the same repeated topics every few months and then return to bashing the next 20 guys who make the same topic.
Yup. Its fun. :D
LockOn!
12-02-2015, 11:06 AM
i'd just get some megan's and throw swifts on them and call it a day if i were in the market for that budget lyfe tbh
Yo you trolling? Genuinely curious. This is the first unique idea in the thread and everyone glosses over it to keep bitching lol.
2muchboost
12-02-2015, 11:47 AM
I have been waiting for the same reply as to why FA are garbage as well besides just BS opinions. They have provided results, data, and answered any questions in their thread a few months ago. You can call them any time and speak to one of their reps and pick their brains. Again for the price kind of hard to be disappointed. I have been on many different setups whether through my own car or friends S14's and FA for me was the logical option in my price range. So please again, explain from a technical standpoint what is so garbage about FA?
BTW have no skin in the game, dont work for FA or anything just find it funny that Zilvia has now provided opinions without a logical explination as to why something is great or garbage.
gabefromcali
12-02-2015, 12:15 PM
Get whatever you want. It doesn't make sense to listen to narrow opinions on who makes the best coilover. Just pick one, try it and see how you like it.
kashira kureijii
12-02-2015, 12:23 PM
I have been waiting for the same reply as to why FA are garbage as well besides just BS opinions. They have provided results, data, and answered any questions in their thread a few months ago. You can call them any time and speak to one of their reps and pick their brains. Again for the price kind of hard to be disappointed. I have been on many different setups whether through my own car or friends S14's and FA for me was the logical option in my price range. So please again, explain from a technical standpoint what is so garbage about FA?
BTW have no skin in the game, dont work for FA or anything just find it funny that Zilvia has now provided opinions without a logical explination as to why something is great or garbage.
Dude it's freakin zilvia,
10 years ago they were putting $2000 dollar sets of volks on their stock ka 240's and acting like they were built. Then they would take turns jacking each other off about who's stock s13 was best due to wheel choices
They don't have a history of being rational,
everyone is gonna yell for no reason about their opinions here for all eternity
In any era this place is a consortium of irrational yelling, which i enjoy procrastinating in instead of studying for biochem.
"memorize the 20 standard amino acids and be able to differentiate between their standard and non-standard forms"............"fuck this I'm gonna get in a page long argument about nintendo gamecube for fun"
megan coilovers are kinda shit, i have them on my s13, and all they really do is make it low, the freakin top hats are rusting and I don't really drive the car that much. They also are stiff as hell, which might be cause I have them on max hardness, which is what my cock is at all times, but who knows.
FA seems shiny as I recently bought a set, and seem to be of greatly acceptable quality, but their real advantage is the little diploma thing they give you
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag23/neko-romancer95/aaaaa%20124_zpsmudetgpe.jpg (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/neko-romancer95/media/aaaaa%20124_zpsmudetgpe.jpg.html)
I plan on framing it and acting like its a real diploma
asking which coilover is best is like asking "which wife is best", most of us here have experience with just one....
2muchboost
12-02-2015, 12:44 PM
Lol...Kashira haha I remember those days. No biochem here but had to take a shit tone of Chemistry and Physics class for my degree. I would just get blazed and make up songs about everything.
Ah yes this is Zilvia....the hell was I thinking asking for logical reasoning.
BTW get some more C8H10N4O2 into your body....you are gonna need it. GL with finals and stuff.
KAT-PWR
12-02-2015, 12:50 PM
Megans are the eptiome of garbage..like barely a step above Raceland
Stiffer doesn't automatically mean better....
For the $1000-$1500 range, I'd look at:
STANCE, PBM, Feal, HKS, & Apex'i
I've had personal experience with JIC's, Silkroads, and Apex'i N1's. The JIC's were the biggest disappointment out of any of them, and the Silkroads are great for the price. Right now I'm currently running Apex'i N1's and have zero complaints about them. A great street setup with a balanced 6/6 spring rate front/rear, and even at their softest setting, they are responsive and predictable. Changes won't be drastic between a few clicks, but you'll see results when you tighten up the dampeners. No complaints with the quality of the parts, and they will go as low as you'd like (but then you run into other problems - roll center, etc etc). If I had to do it all over again, I'd run the same exact coils I
A few others you'd want to consider
Silkroad
KW's (V1 or V2's for a more budget minded setup)
2 facts about FAs, according to my experience
-they are faster and more comfy (i have no idea about how low they go) than tein mono flex
-The best lap i could manage on my favorite track with my previous apex coilovers (read megan racing, same thing), after trying many spring rates and damper settings over a couple of years was in the 1mn41s.
I would really like to read about the reasons you declare these products "garbage". Is that just some random internet hate, or do you have solid facts to back these opinions ?
The placebo effect.
I've had megan's for a couple years...are they great? No. Do they work fine? Sure.
kashira kureijii
12-02-2015, 01:10 PM
Lol...Kashira haha I remember those days. No biochem here but had to take a shit tone of Chemistry and Physics class for my degree. I would just get blazed and make up songs about everything.
Ah yes this is Zilvia....the hell was I thinking asking for logical reasoning.
BTW get some more C8H10N4O2 into your body....you are gonna need it. GL with finals and stuff.
hahaha they taught us how to isolate pure caffeine in my o'chem class a while back, but that might be too much
Thanks man, I'm getting closer to some long caffeine fueled nights :)
DayTex
12-02-2015, 01:31 PM
Does no one use dmax street coils? I need an honest opinion on them.
STEEZxIT
12-02-2015, 01:39 PM
Dude it's freakin zilvia,
10 years ago they were putting $2000 dollar sets of volks on their stock ka 240's and acting like they were built. Then they would take turns jacking each other off about who's stock s13 was best due to wheel choices
a.) you had another account, as a nine year old
b.) you read through ten years of threads
either way, impressive
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customer service goes a long way for me. fortune has excellent customer service. they provide a worksheet that you fill out in order for them to create custom valving as well as communicate with each customer to determine what will be best suited to their needs. for that service, at that price, i don't know why you'd spend $200 less and get isr, godspeed, megan, what have you.
however, i cannot impart any personal knowledge of ownership.
deolio
12-02-2015, 03:21 PM
Yo you trolling? Genuinely curious. This is the first unique idea in the thread and everyone glosses over it to keep bitching lol.
for srs. i have bc's on my s13, which rode like garbage, but i put swifts on and they ride awesome now. one of my friends has my old fortunes, which rode like shit, but then he put swifts on them and they ride great. so my theory is you get some $600 megan easy streets or whatever ebay shit you want and put some swifts on them and you'll have some decent entry-level coils for under $1000 that will ride better than most of the name brand coils. and you can upgrade to better coils in the future and re-use the swifts as long as the o.d. of the body is the same-ish size.
Sleepy_Steve
12-02-2015, 03:50 PM
My old Stance GR+ rode like garbage, then I made them slightly better by running soft springs (7k/6k) and upping the valving as much as possible. Still sucked, and then one of the struts on the front got bent in a minor crash which sucked. Kept driving on them for years.
Now I'm on FA 510's and I like them a lot. Good support, decent pricing for what you get, customizable, support for grass roots racers and drifting, and when I have a handling issue, I just adjust things a bit and all of a sudden the car's butter easy to drive fast.
LockOn!
12-02-2015, 05:40 PM
for srs.
hmmmm neato. Today I learned something new from Zilvia. Well how about that :hs:
Fortune auto sucks too. Just some red neck company from the south that makes bs coilovers
hahaha awww man, that cuts right to our core! ;) While there IS an on-going debate in the office about turbo vs V8, I don't know if I'd jump the gun and say we're all rednecks.
It's unfortunate that your experience with our product was not sufficient enough for us to receive your blessings here on the internet. If the taste left in your mouth is bad enough that you have no choice but to give us shout-outs like this one, give us a call and ask for me, Nick, or shoot me a PM!
So im looking to buy coilovers for my s14, and I i have some in mind, overall is if you have the ones i mention and how do they ride ( drifting & Mostly daily driving ) and how LOW do they go. Post some pics for me to have a better idea. I'm looking to grab some 17x9 wheels only, may consider 18x9 but thats it.
What i had in mind was:
BC Racing BR type Coils - from enjuku
Megan Racing track Series Coilover - from frsport
d2 coilovers
Isr HR pro series coilovers- from enjuku
List pros and con or just opinions
I have done research but want your thoughts on these specific
While I can completely understand where you are coming from with the brands you've mentioned, I'd like to chime in and just give you a heads up on what we have to offer!
Our 500 Series Coilover is absolutely fantastic for street and drift use. Unlike a lot of other coilover companies that claim be a "custom" product, everything we make is hand-built here in our Richmond, VA facility. We have suggested spring rates for all applications but, you also have your choice of rates. There is no up-charge to equip it with a different spring rate and we will valve each damper for those spring rates! We have plenty of options you can add on to each set and Swift Springs is one of them. Again, you can choose whatever spring rates you prefer or leave it up to us to set it up for what you need!
Our new Prime Suspension line is an awesome option as well! Prime utilizes a lot of our Fortune Auto components and technology but, unlike the custom, hand-built Fortune Auto coilovers, Prime Suspension is packaged, shelved, and ready to ship immediately (depending on inventory, naturally). One of the many things that sets Prime apart from the competitors is, they are rebuildable by us! Swift Springs are also an option.
The Fortune Auto 500 Series starts at $1,299 and Prime Suspension starts at $950. Please feel free to PM me with any questions or email me (quicker response)!
[email protected]
I hope to hear from you, good luck with your purchase!
You should never spend less than $1000 on coilovers, as a rule of thumb
While I totally understand how this theory was established, i don't think you should discount the availability of solid products under that price. Our new Prime Suspension is a fantastic, cost-effective product for street and occasional track use. Prime Suspension is rebuildable by us here at Fortune Auto and we offer Swift Springs for them.
There is no doubt, you get what you pay for but, choose a product based on it's quality and reputation, not always the price!
fortune autos come with a fucking diploma, what more could you want
We make sure and give each set a solid inspirational speech right before they go out the door. It usually ends in "atta boy" or "go get 'em tiger'.
Just a bunch of proud parents over here <3
No man I'm saying you're simply going for the 'flashy' item on your already 'flashy' build. There have been several VERY good options listed here for less than the price of 326 but since they don't have as much SwAAaG they're overlooked.
We're still in the R&D stages of our optional swag feature but, I know the look and performance you can achieve with Fortune Auto coilovers can most definitely be perceived as swaggy. We've got the stuff and you've got the options!
Thank you! Well here stands the problem, every brand I try to look for is under 12/10k setups from factory. New springs will make the coilovers cost around 1800-2000usd. I think you can get 326power ones with custom spring rates and it doesn't cost that much. They would be straight ready from the package and no need to wait the new springs to come from factory. :) And what I have seen and read is that a lot of people in Japan use 326power products. I'll try to ask their opinions of the coils trough Facebook.
With Fortune Auto Coilovers, you have your choice of spring rates should they differ from what we suggest. Unlike a lot of other "custom" coilover brands out there, we valve each damper for the spring rate. We do not charge any extra for this as, every Fortune Auto coilover is hand-built here in our Richmond, VA facility. We have Swift Springs as an option and you have your choice of rates. Please feel free to contact me, PM or email (best) and I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have!
[email protected]
FA 500 w/Swift Spring upgrade. Drives like a dream, cant wait to swap these in and get the Megan ones out. BTW...custom valving setup for LS1 (no drifting) through Enjuku. Ken has been and will continue to be the man. I have dealt with him for various parts and projects with 0 complaints.
Clearly, I didn't read this entire thread before I started posting. I'm happy to hear you got set up with our product! And I'm very happy to hear you were able to do so with our great friends at Enjuku! The team there is top notch!
Offer is still on the table, feel more than welcome to contact me regarding any questions or concerns you might have about our coilovers. Welcome to the family!
for srs. i have bc's on my s13, which rode like garbage, but i put swifts on and they ride awesome now. one of my friends has my old fortunes, which rode like shit, but then he put swifts on them and they ride great. so my theory is you get some $600 megan easy streets or whatever ebay shit you want and put some swifts on them and you'll have some decent entry-level coils for under $1000 that will ride better than most of the name brand coils. and you can upgrade to better coils in the future and re-use the swifts as long as the o.d. of the body is the same-ish size.
This theory isn't completely flawed but, there are definitely some leaks. Swapping spring rates is a band-aid. This is why we valve each of our dampers for the spring rates used, Swifts included. The issue with our coilovers on your friend's car along with the other coilovers, they may have been valved for stiff rates from the beginning. We offer rebuilds on all of our products, new and old. So if your friend wants to have his Fortune coilovers setup softer, let us know!
Have fun out there!
2muchboost
12-03-2015, 02:18 PM
@NICK...much appreciated sir. As noted I have used them and so have a few other friends and not one person has had an issue or complaint. The custom valving on my setup was completed after speaking to one of your techs (I cant remember who at the moment) and then the purchase was made through Enjuku cause i have a long standing relationship with them. As your tech noted the custom valving and springs rates work like a charm and your tech took the time to listen to my entire setup and come up with a few feasible options.
As far as V8 vs boost....how about both :)? I am NA now but was building a turbo 5.3 prior to my move and will be moving into FI sooner than later once I clear up some funds.
LockOn!
12-03-2015, 02:19 PM
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Enjuku Racing
12-03-2015, 02:28 PM
If you would like a professional answer to your question, we recommend you contact the professionals :).
[email protected]
352.241.8399
pacotaco345
12-03-2015, 05:47 PM
I have a set of FA500s on my car with 9/7 swifts and am looking forward to whenever I get to drive it. Been in a few different cars with FA coils and they all performed great.
I wouldn't however, order anything from enjuku.. I've tried placing orders through them on 5 or 6 separate occasions and received the part I ordered ONCE. Every other time I was notified via email 2-3 days after the order was placed that the item was out of stock. It would take me another 2-3 days to get in touch with them before I could get my money back...
Future240
12-04-2015, 07:37 AM
Our new Prime Suspension line is an awesome option as well! Prime utilizes a lot of our Fortune Auto components and technology but, unlike the custom, hand-built Fortune Auto coilovers, Prime Suspension is packaged, shelved, and ready to ship immediately (depending on inventory, naturally). One of the many things that sets Prime apart from the competitors is, they are rebuildable by us! Swift Springs are also an option.
At the risk of this turning into a FA commercial. What is the different between the prime and 500 series? I am on GEN 1 500's with one blown and I know they will have to be replaced. I just don't want to go with a coil that makes the car handle worse.
Enjuku Racing
12-04-2015, 07:40 AM
I have a set of FA500s on my car with 9/7 swifts and am looking forward to whenever I get to drive it. Been in a few different cars with FA coils and they all performed great.
I wouldn't however, order anything from enjuku.. I've tried placing orders through them on 5 or 6 separate occasions and received the part I ordered ONCE. Every other time I was notified via email 2-3 days after the order was placed that the item was out of stock. It would take me another 2-3 days to get in touch with them before I could get my money back...
Good Morning Geoff,
"We greatly appreciate your online order but before submitting your order PLEASE NOTE!
Our website currently does not support live inventory numbers so if you are in need of a part for any specific date please contact our sales team so we can verify the item is available for you and push the order out today or express it for you if needed."
That note is posted before checkout and on the websites main page as many parts we sell are built to order/ special order/ drop ship items. Feel free to contact me about your past orders as I am interested in your experience and how we can improve on future sales. Thank you for your feedback!
[email protected]
mau5trap
12-04-2015, 04:33 PM
http://www.gpsports.co.jp/sus/pros/pic01.jpg
Anyone here have experience with GP sports g-master Pros?
TheRealSy90
12-06-2015, 02:00 AM
Anyone here have experience with GP sports g-master Pros?
They're fucking amazing. Put it this way, Fortune Auto's are the shit and I like my GMasters even more.
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Croustibat
12-07-2015, 03:28 AM
The placebo effect.
I've had megan's for a couple years...are they great? No. Do they work fine? Sure.
You misread apex performance and apex'i, i am not talking about apex'i.
Now define "work fine". They go low, sure. But the damping / rebound proportion is set, and i can guarantee you can either have damping OR rebound set right, but not both. I think the original coilovers they are all based off were made for a swapped Schassis car, with a heavy front engine; it could explain quite a lot of things.
The springs are crap too. Seriously, my FA500s are more comfortable with 9kg/7kg springs than the apex/megan with 5/4 springs (or any 4/5/6/7kg/mm spring they can make).
The FAs have an added bonus: they got a trick that work like 2 way settings, so you get a different damping/rebound at high and low speed. It is not a real 2 or 3 way valving, but it certainely is better than a fixed rate.
Apex/megans don't have that either, meaning not only you can either set rebound or damping correctly, but it will only work correctly for ONE road condition; you can either set them for a perfectly flat road, but it will kill your spine on the first waving in the asphalt, or you can set them for a rough road, but then the car will be all over the place.
I consider dampers do their job when you can set damping AND rebound correctly for something that is not a perfect, smooth road. Based on that, apex and all the clones are not doing their job.
dorkidori_s13
12-07-2015, 04:05 AM
Over 14+ years, Ive owned...
AGX Adjustables/Tein S-Tech Springs
D2 Coilovers (2 sets of first gens from 04)
Tein HE
JIC FLT-A2
Buddy Club Racing Spec
JIC FLT-AR
Circuit Sport Street Spec
Fortune Auto 500 (2013 ver, still on my car)
Out of all the different coilovers Ive run, the FA500s are thus far my favorites. Id rock a set of JIC FLT-ARs again, but finding them is a pain and theyre old. Best bang for your buck for an all around great 1 way adjustable coilover, Fortune Autos are hard to beat! My S13 is daily driven and has been for the 5 1/2 years Ive owned it. My Fortunes have done me right for the almost 3 years theyve been on the car and I have ZERO complaints! Not too hard, not too soft, they put up to Vegas roads just fine and I would gladly buy another set in the future!
drag-sr20
12-09-2015, 05:40 PM
where did you buy your dmax coilovers? i cant find a website on that, i have a s14 also btw
I have D-MAX SUPER STREETS on my s14 they feel amazing!
XMcEvilson
12-09-2015, 07:34 PM
where did you buy your dmax coilovers? i cant find a website on that, i have a s14 also btwhttp://www.dmax-us.com/
drag-sr20
12-10-2015, 11:54 AM
.........bump
drag-sr20
12-10-2015, 12:05 PM
While I can completely understand where you are coming from with the brands you've mentioned, I'd like to chime in and just give you a heads up on what we have to offer!
Our 500 Series Coilover is absolutely fantastic for street and drift use. Unlike a lot of other coilover companies that claim be a "custom" product, everything we make is hand-built here in our Richmond, VA facility. We have suggested spring rates for all applications but, you also have your choice of rates. There is no up-charge to equip it with a different spring rate and we will valve each damper for those spring rates! We have plenty of options you can add on to each set and Swift Springs is one of them. Again, you can choose whatever spring rates you prefer or leave it up to us to set it up for what you need!
Our new Prime Suspension line is an awesome option as well! Prime utilizes a lot of our Fortune Auto components and technology but, unlike the custom, hand-built Fortune Auto coilovers, Prime Suspension is packaged, shelved, and ready to ship immediately (depending on inventory, naturally). One of the many things that sets Prime apart from the competitors is, they are rebuildable by us! Swift Springs are also an option.
The Fortune Auto 500 Series starts at $1,299 and Prime Suspension starts at $950. Please feel free to PM me with any questions or email me (quicker response)!
[email protected]
I hope to hear from you, good luck with your purchase!
sent you an email
Rich260z
12-10-2015, 12:28 PM
racelands ftw
/thread
s13poop
12-10-2015, 12:42 PM
So looks after speaking with nick prime suspension is also available to upgrade with swift springs (+$350) and are rebuildable by FA (comes with 1yr warranty as well)
has anyone tried a set?
price is $950 with free shipping through enjuku right now
stuck between these and a set of 500's :hs:
hellaslows13
12-10-2015, 03:37 PM
It's all the same stuff
It's all the same crap
It's all the same performance
It's different annodization, it's different street cred, and it's a difference of how 'low' they can drop you.
Goto an approved vendor, get what you can afford, and be happy...as at the end of the day, it's all the same entry level street junk.
Seriously though, it's not like you're ever going to be a drift superstar, it's highly unlikely you're going to become some nationally known road racer...so get what you can afford and have fun with it.
Painfully true... most of you can't even afford the proper alignment to utilize high end coilovers. Get what you can afford and call it a day.
I have had the following coilovers
1) Godspeed
2) Megan Track
2) Apexi EXV
3) Stance GR+
4) Fortune Auto 500
5) Powered by max version 1 coilover
6) Parts shop max version 2 coilover
7) 326power
I honestly was not able to tell the difference between all the coilovers I have ever owned through out the years. Some I felt "rode better", but that is completely subjective. I felt like the more expensive coilovers felt more stable when driving hard and while going over bumps and did not make as much noises as the lower end coilovers. Build quality is obviously better on the higher end coilovers.
Until you start moving into higher end coilovers with external reservoirs I don't think you are really going to see much variance between the coilovers in the $600-$1500 bracket.
Just my .02.
Some photos for your viewing pleasure (all taken by me)
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tlieberman240
12-10-2015, 04:04 PM
Until you start moving into higher end coilovers with external reservoirs I don't think you are really going to see much variance between the coilovers in the $600-$1500 bracket.
Just my .02.
True in most cases, but there are exceptions.
For instance, there's a company called ST that makes coilovers. They're basically pre-set KW V1 Coilovers.. for like $900. So you have to utilize the OEM tophats and you don't get damping adjustment, but you get ride height adjustment, and they feel very good. They aren't oversprung and underdamped like so many others on the market.
The problem is all these people want to believe that stiffer automatically means better and if a car has ZERO body roll, then the suspension is automatically awesome..
Ignorance is bliss.
Croustibat
12-11-2015, 02:01 AM
The problem is all these people want to believe that stiffer automatically means better and if a car has ZERO body roll, then the suspension is automatically awesome..
Ignorance is bliss.
Thing is, for most of them it is true. Let me explain before jumping on me :D
Their handling and suspension package is so messed up (wrong arm lengths, binding PU bushes, stretched crappy tyres, enormous large wheels) that if the suspension even moves, they would get massive bump steer, toe steer and too much camber change.
In that particular case ( let's be honest, this is zilvia, most people here only care about going low and cheap) the less the suspension moves, the better the car handles. Compared to any OEM car it will handle poorly, but it still is better than if they had a moving suspension anyway. their car would actually handle better with straight metal bars instead of dampers.
boosted23
12-11-2015, 07:07 AM
I put pbm pros 10k/8k on my s13. It had blown to shit cusco from when I bought it and it rode like a matress. Put the pbm pros on and I absolutely love them. Little to stiff for street but completely manageable. They handle pretty damn good. .
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timandytimandy
12-11-2015, 08:51 AM
It's all the same stuff
It's all the same crap
It's all the same performance
It's different annodization, it's different street cred, and it's a difference of how 'low' they can drop you.
Goto an approved vendor, get what you can afford, and be happy...as at the end of the day, it's all the same entry level street junk.
Seriously though, it's not like you're ever going to be a drift superstar, it's highly unlikely you're going to become some nationally known road racer...so get what you can afford and have fun with it.
I've had various brands through out the years and I agree get what you can afford at the time. Today's low end coilover were yesterday's high end. I've had Cusco, Buddy Club with camber plates added, cheap Rokkor and just bought some ISIS for my g35. The ISIS are the only ones that have dampening adjustability. Figure out what your goals are for the car and go from there.
young simba
12-11-2015, 09:31 AM
whats your main goal? drift, circuit or just a clean show car? sorry if the question was already ansked. i had dmax d1 spec and i daily and drift the car and i love em, i had pbm's before and where a little too hard for in my opinion, pretty sure you can change springs and get a better/softer rate, but i loved those dmax i would deff get em again.
sentradude
12-11-2015, 10:04 AM
All this talk about coilovers this and coilovers that but I think hellaslows13 and Croustibat hit the nail on the head! So, by taking all that information into consideration, wouldn't it make sense to get a nice set of strut/spring combo that matches the stock suspension components before going out and spending $900+ on a set of coilovers that are just one piece of the puzzle as in order to properly install coilovers there are other suspension components that should be upgraded as well?
At the risk of this turning into a FA commercial. What is the different between the prime and 500 series? I am on GEN 1 500's with one blown and I know they will have to be replaced. I just don't want to go with a coil that makes the car handle worse.
Allow me to drop the commercial script on you real quick ;)
"Prime Suspension offers one of the best suspension solutions on the market for those who demand excellent ride quality without sacrificing spirited performance. The Prime Suspension dampers were introduced with the intention of being capable, entry-level dampers to fit a broad spectrum of budgets and uses. The applications utilize an array of high quality components and trickle down technology from Prime Suspension's parent company, Fortune Auto, to ensure a wide range of adjustability and versatility. Prime Suspension will ship from our facility in Richmond, VA but, unlike the custom, hand-built Fortune Auto feature lines, Prime Suspension Coilovers are packaged, shelved, and ready to ship immediately. Prime Suspension is also a rebuildable product and can be done so by us here at Fortune Auto. Swift Springs are also an available upgrade option.
Prices start at $950 + shipping."
whew, there you have it. So, the difference is there. We are proud to stand behind the Prime Suspension brand and are super stoked about it's future. Prime and Fortune both have plenty to offer and we are happy that we have the means to extend our reach to yet another consumer aspect of the performance suspension market.
For all of you, my door is always open and I am more than willing to provide you all with whatever information you may need regarding Fortune Auto and Prime Suspension products.
I'm quicker to reply to emails as I don't stay on Zilvia as much as I wish I could.
[email protected]
Over 14+ years, Ive owned...
AGX Adjustables/Tein S-Tech Springs
D2 Coilovers (2 sets of first gens from 04)
Tein HE
JIC FLT-A2
Buddy Club Racing Spec
JIC FLT-AR
Circuit Sport Street Spec
Fortune Auto 500 (2013 ver, still on my car)
Out of all the different coilovers Ive run, the FA500s are thus far my favorites. Id rock a set of JIC FLT-ARs again, but finding them is a pain and theyre old. Best bang for your buck for an all around great 1 way adjustable coilover, Fortune Autos are hard to beat! My S13 is daily driven and has been for the 5 1/2 years Ive owned it. My Fortunes have done me right for the almost 3 years theyve been on the car and I have ZERO complaints! Not too hard, not too soft, they put up to Vegas roads just fine and I would gladly buy another set in the future!
This is why we do what we do! Thanks for the review! We stay hard at work to continuously progress our products to accommodate harder driving and better ride quality. We're happy to have a very proven method and the results really do speak for themselves.
So looks after speaking with nick prime suspension is also available to upgrade with swift springs (+$350) and are rebuildable by FA (comes with 1yr warranty as well)
has anyone tried a set?
price is $950 with free shipping through enjuku right now
stuck between these and a set of 500's :hs:
That's it! Glad we got to speak. If you have any questions that will help you decide what's best, keep the emails coming. I'd be happy to break it down even more for you so we can get you set up with exactly what you need!
TheRealSy90
12-11-2015, 04:16 PM
GPSports G-Master Pros.
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Croustibat
12-11-2015, 05:43 PM
That's it! Glad we got to speak. If you have any questions that will help you decide what's best, keep the emails coming. I'd be happy to break it down even more for you so we can get you set up with exactly what you need!
I have one question about the swift spring option though. Why is it so expensive ?
It does cost the same to buy 4 springs from swift separately, and then you'd get the 4 springs that come with the coilovers as leftovers (for sale or ... as different rates to try). Couldn't you manage a better deal on that ?
I have one question about the swift spring option though. Why is it so expensive ?
It does cost the same to buy 4 springs from swift separately, and then you'd get the 4 springs that come with the coilovers as leftovers (for sale or ... as different rates to try). Couldn't you manage a better deal on that ?
If you purchase Swift or Hyperco Springs wiht your coilovers, they're $25 less than ordering separately.
Gingersmurf
12-14-2015, 09:29 AM
This is why we do what we do! Thanks for the review! We stay hard at work to continuously progress our products to accommodate harder driving and better ride quality. We're happy to have a very proven method and the results really do speak for themselves.
After reading up on the Fortune auto coils, they will be my next set. I currently have a set of PBM Comp coils, and am not overly thrilled with them. I feel they are over sprung and under dampened.. Looking forwards to the new year where i will make my purchase of 500's!
After reading up on the Fortune auto coils, they will be my next set. I currently have a set of PBM Comp coils, and am not overly thrilled with them. I feel they are over sprung and under dampened.. Looking forwards to the new year where i will make my purchase of 500's!
As soon as you're ready, shoot me an email and we'll get you set up!
simmode1
12-14-2015, 09:58 AM
Geezus Christ... How did ALL of Zilvia get suckered into another redundant 'Which Coilover' thread in 2015?!
LockOn!
12-14-2015, 11:28 AM
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turboshoebox
12-14-2015, 11:38 PM
Geezus Christ... How did ALL of Zilvia get suckered into another redundant 'Which Coilover' thread in 2015?!
I'm more surprised that zilvia went from "jdm coilover of the month" to local budget coilover made by a company in the sticks...:picardfp:
boost
12-15-2015, 03:01 AM
i missed it, what was the jdm coilover of the month?
turboshoebox
12-15-2015, 01:14 PM
Every few months zilvia would be on the nuts of a diff brand coilover and swear one was better then the other
Jic
Tein
Silk road
Dg5
Stance
Etc. Etc.
I'm more surprised that zilvia went from "jdm coilover of the month" to local budget coilover made by a company in the sticks...:picardfp:
It's quiet out here, that's for sure. But, so far, so good! It's away from the big city but, we DO have an Applebee's not far from here. So, if you ask me, we've made it.
Also, thank you for the complement of "budget" coilover. We strive to offer the best product out there without paying that hotboi tax that has been known to accompany some other coilovers out there. Please feel free to email me with any other questions or to even purchase a set for yourself! :kiss:
[email protected]
SoundEfx
12-27-2015, 10:24 AM
This was an interesting read.
I'm currently looking for coilovers for the S14 and stumbled onto this thread and I have to say that most of the things
[email protected] said are true.
I went with BC's for my other car because their system allowed you to go to two higher or lower spring rates without revalving the system.
Another reason why I think that people don't like certain coilovers is because they get the wrong spring rates for the car. Meaning, 18" rims, 35 ratio tires that are dropped to the ground has to have a 10K and up spring rate so that there is no movement. THAT, will not be a comfortable ride and I have witnessed it in the Integra world. The spring rates offered for that car is just plain wrong....lol
I am not saying that all coilovers are good, there will be bad ones made with low quality, but there are several aspects to judge when considering what is or is not a good coilover and coilover company.
STEEZxIT
01-13-2016, 10:19 AM
anybody going to chime in with feal 441 experience?
i'm up in the air between fa500 and feal 441. my front k sports sound like they're going to disintegrate any day now.
Rays_240
01-13-2016, 10:26 AM
anybody going to chime in with feal 441 experience?
i'm up in the air between fa500 and feal 441. my front k sports sound like they're going to disintegrate any day now.
I have the feals and love them, I had stance previously and they were way to stiff and the dampening felt off. I have no experience with the FA's though.
STEEZxIT
01-13-2016, 10:38 AM
Thanks Rays
I wonder how feal 441's stack up against FA500's with the swift upgrade. maybe the swift springs are really the difference as far as feeling goes, aside from actual performance of the two coilovers themselves
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codyace
01-13-2016, 08:45 PM
It's quiet out here, that's for sure. But, so far, so good! It's away from the big city but, we DO have an Applebee's not far from here. So, if you ask me, we've made it.
Also, thank you for the complement of "budget" coilover. We strive to offer the best product out there without paying that hotboi tax that has been known to accompany some other coilovers out there. Please feel free to email me with any other questions or to even purchase a set for yourself! :kiss:
[email protected]
Granted I run a custom Koni setup, but your response is why I suggest your stuff to the bolt on and go guys! Cheers!
Pblesh85
01-13-2016, 11:11 PM
I was curious, your website says all of your stuff is assembled stateside. Does that mean the shocks or components are built in the U.S. ?
also do you have any experience working on ohlins ? I have a set of pcv coils i wanted to have modified.
TomBec
01-14-2016, 05:23 AM
Ordered a set of FA 500 with Swift Springs and radial bearings about two weeks ago for one of my S13. Ill post when they get here and when I get them on.
Osmosis
01-14-2016, 03:28 PM
I had
k-sports, tein basics, megan, GAB sport, and they were all garbage.
I ended up getting Buddy Club RSD and they were GOD DAMNED AMAZING. I was totally blown away. On soft it was pure luxury, not bouncy at all, turn em up and WOW, it actually tightened them up, unlike the other 64 million way adjustment nonsense. These are 15 way adjustable and you can feel it on every click.
You can read a bit about them here
http://www.buddyclubuk.com/acatalog/Racing_Spec_Dampers.html
STEEZxIT
01-14-2016, 04:36 PM
I had
k-sports, tein basics, megan, GAB sport, and they were all garbage.
I ended up getting Buddy Club RSD and they were GOD DAMNED AMAZING. I was totally blown away. On soft it was pure luxury, not bouncy at all, turn em up and WOW, it actually tightened them up, unlike the other 64 million way adjustment nonsense. These are 15 way adjustable and you can feel it on every click.
what chassis/engine set up ? and what range of driving?
Osmosis
01-14-2016, 05:31 PM
S13 w/ SR making 388hp 325tq. Lots of lapping days (and the odd drift day) as well as lots of mountain roads.
dmk477
09-18-2017, 04:05 PM
Any more recent opinions on this topic? I have a set of greedy type s for my s14 that we're given to me, one rear bushing is wrecked and one front shock is leaking. I'm trying to weigh my options/ see if it's possible to repair the current ones.
Any more recent opinions on this topic? I have a set of greedy type s for my s14 that we're given to me, one rear bushing is wrecked and one front shock is leaking. I'm trying to weigh my options/ see if it's possible to repair the current ones.
Best bet if you're trying to fix your current one, contact the company to see if they sell replacement parts for your coilover or if they can rebuild.
TheRealSy90
09-18-2017, 04:53 PM
I'll always say GpSports/DG5 G-Master Pros are the best s13 option there is if you have the money.
If not then I recommend Fortune Auto 500's.
jared420sx
09-18-2017, 05:55 PM
I had broadway static hmu ill get you a deal
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