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tb13
09-28-2015, 09:48 PM
This project sprouted from missing my Z32 and wanting a car that could give me a shit eating grin everytime I drive it. I picked up my 89 coupe 8 months ago with a single slammer and fell in love with the chassis, but the KA wasn't in good running condition. I started thinking about what direction I wanted to go with the car and decided, why not make a car that can do it all, something that will be "Well Rounded". It wasn't much to look at when I got it. Nearly stock with 95k miles on the clock and a set of coilovers. The car has nearly flawless frame rails, pinch welds and virgin, unrolled/pulled fenders. It was perfect.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/IMG_20150722_192158_zps86hokqvd.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/IMG_20150722_192158_zps86hokqvd.jpg.html)

First thing I did was get rid of the steelies and throw a set of 17x7 and 17x8 FN01R-C's on it along with 5 lug swapping it and tossing Z32 brakes up front. The wider tires really bought the car to life, it was a ton of fun to hoon around in, even if a Prius could kill me in a race :facepalm:

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20150818_190355_zpsm9tgiapd.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20150818_190355_zpsm9tgiapd.jpg.html)

The single jingle in the car ran, but wasn't great. I always felt it was down on power and eventually decided to pull it. I didn't want to throw any more money at it at the time. This was probably the worst decision I could have made, after the motor came out, the car sat for 7 months collecting dust while I tried to figure out what motor I wanted to swap into it.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20150926_121621_zpsa9yladny.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20150926_121621_zpsa9yladny.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20151004_114035_zpskfz89smm.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20151004_114035_zpskfz89smm.jpg.html)
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A few weeks ago I made a big decision to sell the RB25 NEO swap I had been piecing together for the car. Somewhat of a double edged sword, I sold a motor that would have made the car a rocket ship, but I ended up with the cash to get the car back onto the road. Its not going to look like this for much longer.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160213_165406_zps75c8w0qs.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160213_165406_zps75c8w0qs.jpg.html)

With cash burning a hole in my pocket I got to spending. The old FN's got trade off for a set of 17x9 +15's with garbage tires. I shopped around a bit and decided on Sumitomo HTR ZIII's. A 255/40r17 to wrap my 17x9 +15 FN's. Not the widest, but the car won't be making huge power so they'll be just fine.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160406_115336_zpsvp84refj.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160406_115336_zpsvp84refj.jpg.html)
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I hadn't really thought about how they were going to fit... The fenders aren't going to be unpulled for long. :naughty: I'm going to throw a few degrees of camber up front and a degree or so in the rear to help fit them and hopefully give me some better cornering grip. They look great on the car, the deep center and meaty tires give the exact look I was going for.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160409_105405_zpsxa5srujp.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160409_105405_zpsxa5srujp.jpg.html)
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Wanted to address the seats in the car, Arizona sun and head had basically destroyed them. The drivers seat had a nice metal bar that would stab you while driving that drive me insane, but fortunately I was able to score a clean set of S14 seats. A friend of mine posted them up for sale and I jumped on them, insane difference from the garbage S13 seats. Plus the look way nicer.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160409_111806_zpspbyh7kdb.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160409_111806_zpspbyh7kdb.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160409_113019_zpsdlyw7f1m.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160409_113019_zpsdlyw7f1m.jpg.html)

This car won't be a drift car. This car won't be some scene stance camber gang car. I've never really been super interested in drifting or having a car that I can't drive. I am about function and that is what I want out of this car. With my tire and wheel setup, I needed suspension to back it up.

First order of business was to order everything, here is a list of everything suspension related that will be going on the car:

Front suspension/steering:

Voodoo13 tension rods
ES lower control arm bushings
Mevotech ball joints
Mevotech outer tie rods
ES steering rack bushings
Mevotech sway bar endlinks

Rear Suspension:

Voodoo13 rear upper control arms
Voodoo13 toe rods
Voodoo13 traction rods
Voodoo13 eccentric lockout
Voodoo13 solid subframe bushings
Moog ball joints
Moog sway bar endlinks
ES lower control arm bushings
ES knuckle bushings

No corners cut is what I am going for. Dropped the subframe out a few days ago and brought it home with me. The bushings don't look all the bad, due to the low mileage, but again Arizona heat for 27 years kills anything rubber.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160410_140138_zpsui4zwwh5.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160410_140138_zpsui4zwwh5.jpg.html)
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Now that its at my house I am in the process of installing my S15 Helical LSD. Since the car isn't going to be a drift car, the S15 Helical LSD seemed like the best option, ended up getting it from Japan for around $300 shipped :boink: Adios open diff, no more one tire fires!

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160211_131305_zpsdjwa8kqc.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160211_131305_zpsdjwa8kqc.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160410_161927_zpskkzkcybm.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160410_161927_zpskkzkcybm.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160410_161005_zps202vebwl.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160410_161005_zps202vebwl.jpg.html)

While the subframe is out, I figured I'd throw my Z32 rear brakes on too. Bought new rotors and pads and I have the ebrake setup to bolt on with a set of Z32 rear hubs. Going to stick with the stock iron knuckles for now because I don't have cash for new coils, but I might swap them out eventually. I also have a 1 1/16 Z32 master and a B13 brake booster to round off the whole brake setup.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160213_173046_zpsstvtwlky.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160213_173046_zpsstvtwlky.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160411_170512_zpsivrrpss5.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160411_170512_zpsivrrpss5.jpg.html)

And finally the star of the show. A "New" Single Slammer! Picked up a full swap, radiator to driveshaft swap for $340. Not going to make the car a rocket ship, but its a strong motor so the car should be a ton of fun without the chance of me getting tickets or killing myself :keke: Bought a set of Nismo motor mounts, Nismo trans mount, ebay 4-2-1 header, catco cat and an HKS Hi-Power catback. Fingers crossed it doesn't sound like shit...

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160403_151934_zps4xuvjco6.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160403_151934_zps4xuvjco6.jpg.html)
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Tons of parts are on their way to me right now so there will be more pictures coming daily!

tb13
04-20-2016, 05:14 PM
Can I get a mod to update the thread name??

Haven't done a whole lot lately. Some of my parts are taking forever to get here so I decided to address my front suspension. Got it all torn off the other day.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160412_145213_zpsfyyppuox.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160412_145213_zpsfyyppuox.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160412_145356_zpseih7zbie.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160412_145356_zpseih7zbie.jpg.html)

The bushings, ball joints and outer tie rods all looked like hell, good thing the wonderful FedEx guy and the USPS guy brought me all my new suspension parts!

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160412_135837_zpslx7zn7nq.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160412_135837_zpslx7zn7nq.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160412_135851_zpsrzqlfcxt.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160412_135851_zpsrzqlfcxt.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160417_014101_zpsedvkhtrd.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160417_014101_zpsedvkhtrd.jpg.html)

Got my new differential bearings and output shaft seals. Smacked it all on the diff, was ready to reinstall it into the housing and realized I have no locktite for the ring gear bolts :-/ Decided to move onto something else.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160419_145233_zpshauyrzyr.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160419_145233_zpshauyrzyr.jpg.html)
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Broke my subframe down. Got the rear lowers off and the ball joints out. Popped the front ball joints out too while I was having fun with my BFH.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160419_183252_zpsghgpvyuw.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160419_183252_zpsghgpvyuw.jpg.html)

Ended up having to get a new pair for front lca's. I couldn't figure out why a socket woudn't fit over the tension rod bolt, but once I got the lca off I noticed it was bend all to hell. No clue what someone had to hit to do this, but I found a new set so its whatever.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160419_184629_zpsqdspzqdt.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160419_184629_zpsqdspzqdt.jpg.html)

Ball joints will be pressed in over the weekend and hopefully I'll get the rest of my parts so I can finish all this suspension stuff up and get the car on the ground.

rawgarage
04-21-2016, 03:51 AM
Scrub or blast those LCAS and throw a coat of paint on em...

tb13
05-20-2016, 09:56 PM
PROGRESS!

Decided to get some shit done yesterday. I had been struggling with the subframe bushings for quite some time, they refused to go in or would go in sideways, It was driving me nuts. I found a flap sanding wheel, ran it thought all the holes, then beat the living hell out of them until they finally went in. It wasn't fun, but it was worth.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160507_130107_zps2etx77ek.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160507_130107_zps2etx77ek.jpg.html)

Then I got to work on all the arms, super straight forward here. Really like the Voodoo13 eccentric lockout kit and the arms were super easy to install and get adjusted.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160507_133700_zps4umq7mwh.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160507_133700_zps4umq7mwh.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160507_135756_zpszrdnp4f8.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160507_135756_zpszrdnp4f8.jpg.html)

I got to work on the rear coliovers next. They looked to be in horrible shape, but they really aren't that bad just chipping paint and surface rust. Took me quite a bit of time to get them apart and the lower sleeves refused to come off, but it doesn't really matter though because the front Tanabe's are not height adjustable.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160507_154307_zps6lp4udiy.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160507_154307_zps6lp4udiy.jpg.html)

Front coilovers were SUPER easy to get apart, other than having a shit ton of preload which was annoying. Pretty happy to say all 4 coils are still in great shape and will last me until I can get a new set.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160507_163739_zpsph49ry0y.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160507_163739_zpsph49ry0y.jpg.html)

Got to work on my Z32 brake setup, took me forever to get the Z knuckles stripped down thanks to bolts that were frozen... Finally got it all off and on the subframe though. Didn't put the brakes all on yet though, I have no idea if I have 2+2 or 2+0 e brake cables so I need to make sure they are right before I reinstall the ebrake hardware. If anyone knows how long 2+2 cables are, let me know!

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160507_155840_zpswsgdmdhz.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160507_155840_zpswsgdmdhz.jpg.html)
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I had to let the lower mounts for the rear coils sit on rust remover over night. Got up this morning and got to work on them. Took some heat and pb blaster, but they both freed up without too much effort. Threw some black pain on them to make sure they don't rust anymore.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160508_114054_zpss1imogdc.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160508_114054_zpss1imogdc.jpg.html)
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Got to work reassembling the coils, I was going to clean them up, but decided it was just a waste of time. Shot them with some brake cleaner and called it good. Anti-seized the bodies and threaded the collars back on.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160508_120318_zpsnemsrxbb.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160508_120318_zpsnemsrxbb.jpg.html)

Boom, they still look like crap, but I can adjust preload and a bit of rear height so I am happy.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160508_123624_zpsybj9zbtq.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160508_123624_zpsybj9zbtq.jpg.html)


Lastly I put my HLSD together. Just have to toss the rear cover back on and stick it in the subframe. Its SUPER tight, really excited to see how it performs.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160506_123400_zpsqzfmaqa2.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160506_123400_zpsqzfmaqa2.jpg.html)

TheZ31Guy
05-21-2016, 11:57 AM
Looks promising so far! Stay motivated haha

tb13
05-21-2016, 12:10 PM
Looks promising so far! Stay motivated haha

Thanks, trying to stay motivated. The car is about a 30min drive from my house and I recently got a new job so I'm limited on the time that I can work on it... Hoping to get all the suspension back on the car tomorrow and get it back on the ground. The motor is already back in the car so I'm getting close to being able to drive it again!

supersayianjim
05-21-2016, 12:34 PM
I like this thread, actually functional mods and no dorifto crap!

tb13
05-21-2016, 12:51 PM
I like this thread, actually functional mods and no dorifto crap!

I've never been a huge fan of drifting. I sent my Z32 over a curb when I was 17 thinking I was on the set of Tokyo Drift down the street from my house. Ripped a lower control arm OUT of the subframe, destroyed my front suspension and killed a set of wheels. Honestly I am glad it happened.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20131027_202017_zps74c9ab2b.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20131027_202017_zps74c9ab2b.jpg.html)

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20131028_131323_zps7f12969f.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20131028_131323_zps7f12969f.jpg.html)

I brought the car back to life, but had changed my mindset from before the accident. Decided that I preferred to have grip which really made me love the car and has molded every car I have owned since. When I sold the Z I felt lost and needed a worthy replacement, thats where this S13 project started.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20141101_171649_zps3f5c0507.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20141101_171649_zps3f5c0507.jpg.html)

tb13
05-23-2016, 08:08 PM
:wiggle: MOOOORRRRREEEEE PROGRESS :wiggle:

Sooo I got off my ass and went out to work on my car. First up was getting my front suspension back on. Got my ES FLCA bushings in then started throwing parts back on. New tension rods, ball joints, outer tie rods and sway bar endlinks. This thing is going to handle so well once I get it all aligned.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160522_155303_zpshps9kmgl.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160522_155303_zpshps9kmgl.jpg.html)
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Didn't take pictures while I was doing the rear, it was a complete pain in my ass. I did it without a diff which made it really hard to keep the subframe level. After a ton of cussing and kicking shit it finally went back up to where it belongs and I got everything bolted back on.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160522_183653_zpsmgcemrrj.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160522_183653_zpsmgcemrrj.jpg.html)

Left it on jack stands because my wheels still don't fit, I'll deal with that next time I go out. Felt good to get all the suspension back on though.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160522_185449_zpsqrxdvkxa.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160522_185449_zpsqrxdvkxa.jpg.html)

Got a little sad seeing my dash though, its really bad now... It wasn't nearly as horrible when I left the car :-/

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160522_184004_zpseughtoe9.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160522_184004_zpseughtoe9.jpg.html)

Also noticed something I though was really cool. The pervious owner of the car had told me the windshield was replaced before I bought the car. Noticed a little Nissan logo when I was looking at the dash... Wiped away some of the dust to realize it is an OEM Nissan HUD windshield :rawk: I have no idea how he managed to get it, when I looked for one over a year ago I couldn't find one any where.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160522_184028_zps3hsrnmau.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160522_184028_zps3hsrnmau.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160522_184040_zpsesaljbcr.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160522_184040_zpsesaljbcr.jpg.html)

Hopefully I will get back to it in the next few days, but worst case scenario it will be back on the road by Sunday :2f2f:

CamberWear
05-23-2016, 09:17 PM
Looks like a solid build so far! subd

rawgarage
05-24-2016, 12:06 AM
Fender roller and heat gun away from being back on the street

tb13
05-24-2016, 12:05 PM
Looks like a solid build so far! subd

Thanks! More to come very soon!

Fender roller and heat gun away from being back on the street

Pretty much, this car has 100% virgin sheet metal, I'm going to change that reeeaalll soon :naughty:

tuzzio
05-25-2016, 09:26 AM
Pretty much, this car has 100% virgin sheet metal, I'm going to change that reeeaalll soon :naughty:


molest sheet metal. Don't turn to fiberglass.

tb13
05-25-2016, 11:08 AM
molest sheet metal. Don't turn to fiberglass.

With some molestation that sheet metal will give me exactly what I want, no need for fiberglass... Yet... This is only the first phase of my build :keke:

Cortius017
05-26-2016, 07:27 AM
Subscribed! I enjoy the two tones car alot, probably my favorite s chassis look out there. My friend has a sefoam two tone and I would trade my s13 vert and s14 for it and he wouldnt let it go haha. Love the progress so far and the fact its a grip build, we need more of these types of builds on this forum even though I love drifting. Please keep the exterior clean and oem paint, I love originallity thats just my two cents.

tb13
05-26-2016, 11:00 AM
Subscribed! I enjoy the two tones car alot, probably my favorite s chassis look out there. My friend has a sefoam two tone and I would trade my s13 vert and s14 for it and he wouldnt let it go haha. Love the progress so far and the fact its a grip build, we need more of these types of builds on this forum even though I love drifting. Please keep the exterior clean and oem paint, I love originallity thats just my two cents.

Thanks man, I love the two tones aswell. I hate when I see someone ruin an original two tone by painting it a solid color. The car will stay two tone as long as I own it, one of the things I want to do it have it repainted with the original colors, the paint is mostly there still, just not in the greatest shape.

tb13
05-30-2016, 10:07 PM
Okay, so I spent some time with her this weekend.

First thing I address was ALL of my rear suspension/drivetrain. finally got my Helical into the subframe, installed my axles, installed my Z32 rear brakes and got my arms adjusted so I can drive the car once I finish everything else.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160530_193817_zpsiddviigu.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160530_193817_zpsiddviigu.jpg.html)

Got to rolling my front fenders, but with my coilovers the fender roller I have doesn't work so I moved onto the rear. Rolled the rear fenders until the quarters began to buckle, kind of sad they popped in, but I think I will be able to pull them back out.

With that roll of the fenders, my wheel and tire setup now fits! :yum:

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160530_191541_zpsngaikvew.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160530_191541_zpsngaikvew.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160530_191544_zpsuq5lhqhk.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160530_191544_zpsuq5lhqhk.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160530_191556_zps5enox7wg.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160530_191556_zps5enox7wg.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160530_191622_zps6e18essc.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160530_191622_zps6e18essc.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160530_191626_zps61yvbvok.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160530_191626_zps61yvbvok.jpg.html)

My JIC's are half seized in the rear so I can't adjust the height, but I am pretty okay with the ride height. :rolleyes: Its a functional low and should settle a bit more once I actually get the drive the car.

Ended up just ripping off my front fenders, I'll be able to get my alignment and roll the fenders later. I an going to move my harness above the fender while they are off too.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160530_193845_zps5vnepvcr.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160530_193845_zps5vnepvcr.jpg.html)

Even though I left it looking like a heaping pile of shit, its getting close. Still have to secure my ebrake cables, install my driveshaft and hookup the engine harness. Hopefully I can make it out to finish it up before the weekend, sat in it today again and I am so excited to drive it again!

silverarrow27
05-30-2016, 10:23 PM
Great build thread so far, almost giving me motivation to work on mine before it starts getting too hot.

tb13
05-31-2016, 10:17 AM
Great build thread so far, almost giving me motivation to work on mine before it starts getting too hot.

Its starting to warm up around here and I really want this as close to done before its over 100*F every day. I hate sweating my ass off working on cars...

zombiewolf513
05-31-2016, 10:34 AM
you have from about 6-am to 930 before it gets that hot lol. If you need any help this week let me know and I'll give you a hand

tb13
05-31-2016, 12:03 PM
you have from about 6-am to 930 before it gets that hot lol. If you need any help this week let me know and I'll give you a hand

Pretty much, the car is actually in a covered area so it makes it less awful to work on. Hoping to have it wrapped up by this weekend, I keep saying that, but its actually close now so I think I can do it. Where in the Valley do you live?

tuzzio
06-01-2016, 08:17 AM
Since the fenders are off the car you can lay it on a soft material (like a bed) and use a rubber mallet to roll them. Pretty easy actually and the soft material should give them enough play not to pull/bend.

tb13
06-01-2016, 11:52 AM
Since the fenders are off the car you can lay it on a soft material (like a bed) and use a rubber mallet to roll them. Pretty easy actually and the soft material should give them enough play not to pull/bend.

I was able to get them rolled, I just can't pull them at all. The top of the fender roller smashes into everything. I am going to borrow a friends stock struts and pull them.

tb13
06-05-2016, 06:41 PM
Spent some time in the in the blistering AZ heat trying to get the car buttoned up over the last two days.

Holy shit was it worth it! Seeing the car on the ground shot my motivation through the roof. It is everything I wanted and more.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160604_183104_zpsyeuq1wzm.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160604_183104_zpsyeuq1wzm.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160604_183113_zpsyepcrtd6.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160604_183113_zpsyepcrtd6.jpg.html)
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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160604_184953_zpsxiijvmjv.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160604_184953_zpsxiijvmjv.jpg.html)

After I dropped it down, I got to work on getting the motor buttoned up. Being a single cam it was pretty straight forward, but I did hit some speed bumps. The header was so poorly made that the O2 sensor placement landed the sensor right where the steering shaft was suppose to go. Chopped the bung off an moved it, problem solved. Oh, and the starter is fucked so I wasn't able to start it. Oh well, for another day I guess.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160605_152826_zpsfbbijz8y.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160605_152826_zpsfbbijz8y.jpg.html)

Also manged to get the original HUD cluster that I sold back. The person I sold the old single cam to never installed the cluster and hit me up when I posted that I needed a single cam cluster. Lucked out getting it back, so happy to have a working HUD again!

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160605_144817_zpswjry62aj.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160605_144817_zpswjry62aj.jpg.html)

Should be back on the road super soon, I am going to spend a few days this week buttoning everything up :yum:

Lees_Garage
06-05-2016, 07:07 PM
Looks great! :rawk:

tb13
06-06-2016, 11:07 AM
Looks great! :rawk:

Thanks man!

Phase 2 will be under way soon :keke:

tb13
06-09-2016, 11:25 PM
Hit the road today!

Got the car started days ago, but it ran like poop so I walked away before I started hitting and kicking shit. Went back with a level head today, swapped the ECU, BOOOM, runs great. Threw some little coolant hoses on and filled it up with coolant.

I hopped in it and took a tip to the gas station, it ran great. Needs an alignment really bad, but drives well regardless. Forgot how gutless single cam's are :-/

Ran a little lap around to make sure it wasn't going to overheat or blow up, then headed home. Got me home, over 15 miles, no problem. Need to address some little things, but overall I am super happy with it! Alignment will be done tomorrow then I will be ready to beat on the single slammer until the new motor set comes in :naughty:

Here are a few pictures of how she looks, ignore the bumper fitment, the front end is all mashed up and I let a friend "try" to put the bumper back on :ugh:

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160609_175744_zpshbcgmv3g.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160609_175744_zpshbcgmv3g.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160609_183003_zpstehgyweb.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160609_183003_zpstehgyweb.jpg.html)

All I need to do to make it completely road worthy after the alignment is:

-Install 1 1/16 master and Sentra booster
-Bleed brakes
-Install Z32 E-Brake assembly
-Replace PS pump
-Figure out what is clunking in the front end

Getting so close!!!

rawgarage
06-10-2016, 01:39 AM
Congrats my G!!!

SoundEfx
06-10-2016, 08:07 AM
I would say 'just in time for summer', but you're in AZ. It's always summer there....lol

Congrats pimp.

tb13
06-10-2016, 01:33 PM
Congrats my G!!!

Thanks man! :2f2f:

I would say 'just in time for summer', but you're in AZ. It's always summer there....lol

Congrats pimp.

We have 2 seasons, hotter than shit or "cold" (cold to us is 60*f). Personally, I don't mind the heat. Its actually in the low 100's right now, but the damn humidity is up for no apparent reason so it feels like its 120* outside :facepalm: Its basically going to be driven to the 2 weekly car meets I go to and sit until late October when its not blistering hot outside.

tb13
06-10-2016, 01:33 PM
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Phase 2 Begins

So, now that its back on the road I can focus on getting a swap ready for it. I have thought over every option from Vortec to SR to 1jz, but I think I have decided on going with a CA18DET. Now, that probably sounds really really dumb to a lot of you, but hear me out. The CA is the perfect motor for this car. I am building a "Well Rounded" vehicle, this means keeping weight down, keeping power within a reason and making sure I keep the balance of the car.

I am not just going to drop a CA into it and call it good, its going to get some upgrades to make it one hell of a street motor. To do that I need a special turbo setup, one that will give great response on the 1.8L and not fall off like the stock turbo. Concept Z Performance in collaboration with Turbos Direct developed a turbo kit for the Z32 that uses very special GT2560R's. These GT2560R's utilize a custom billet wheel that allows them to outflow larger turbos, but retain response. I plan to get a single one and strap it to the CA, it will flow enough to make 300+hp and be responsive enough to have fun on the street or track.

To increase response even more, I am going to mid mount an intercooler (Keep charge piping short and with as few bends as possible), port the intake manifold and run E85. All together I hope to see 325rwhp with response that is unmatched. Should make an incredible street car. Really excited to start piecing everything together!

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/GSX_GT2560R_zpsskfzi8wr.png (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/GSX_GT2560R_zpsskfzi8wr.png.html)

soundboy
06-10-2016, 07:47 PM
Ca18det?
parts getting pretty hard to locate for those ca18

RalliartRsX
06-10-2016, 08:27 PM
The CA18DET with it's iron block is only about 20-40 lbs full dressed (between the two) lighter than the all aluminum SR20DET. Not only is the CA a fair bit older, it also lacks .2 liters of displacement. I would give up 20-40lbs for the displacement as a well balanced car is not simply about weight, but tractable, usable/streetable power.

If you buy any CA, expect to rebuild before swapping it into the car (more $$$$). I understand the thought process, but looking at the big picture (in terms of "balance" and more practical) I would stay away from the CA. In addition, although the US market received a NA version, parts for this engine are fairly scarce, so best not have any issue (which will more than likely be the case).

In the long run, although it is very vanilla running the SR just makes sense (parts are available, more displacement, etc). There is a reason (or many reasons) you do not see many CA18DETs running around.

e1_griego
06-10-2016, 08:36 PM
If this is a "grip" build then put real shocks on it.

Antihero983
06-10-2016, 08:37 PM
I loved this thread before, but the CA18 makes me love it even more. Keep up the good work dude!!!!

tb13
06-10-2016, 10:42 PM
Ca18det?
parts getting pretty hard to locate for those ca18

Considering I am going to swapping the coil packs for Vortec coils and deleting the ignitor, most parts are pretty easy to find.

The CA18DET with it's iron block is only about 20-40 lbs full dressed (between the two) lighter than the all aluminum SR20DET. Not only is the CA a fair bit older, it also lacks .2 liters of displacement. I would give up 20-40lbs for the displacement as a well balanced car is not simply about weight, but tractable, usable/streetable power.

If you buy any CA, expect to rebuild before swapping it into the car (more $$$$). I understand the thought process, but looking at the big picture (in terms of "balance" and more practical) I would stay away from the CA. In addition, although the US market received a NA version, parts for this engine are fairly scarce, so best not have any issue (which will more than likely be the case).

In the long run, although it is very vanilla running the SR just makes sense (parts are available, more displacement, etc). There is a reason (or many reasons) you do not see many CA18DETs running around.

Trust me, I have considered the SR quite a bit. I actually had almost a full SR in my garage not to long ago. The CA is old, but that does not mean they aren't great motors. It will be compression tested and resealed, maybe rebuilt if need be, but in stock form they can hold 350rwhp without issue so I think it will suit my needs just fine!

If this is a "grip" build then put real shocks on it.

In time, I just got it back on the road and it REALLY needs some new coils.

I loved this thread before, but the CA18 makes me love it even more. Keep up the good work dude!!!!

Thanks man, glad everyone doesn't absolutely despise the CA :kiss:

tb13
06-17-2016, 06:59 PM
Last friday, before I went on vacation, I got the car "Aligned". Called a Big O Tires neat my house because they have a really nice alignment rack and they assured me they could do the alignment. Look at this shit, paper work says both rear wheels have -1* of camber, yet the drivers side is sticking out nearly an inch from the fender. Both rear fenders are rolled the same amount. No, there is no damage to the unibody or subframe, the rear upper control arms are adjusted differently, yet somehow the idiots were assuring me the camber side to side was identical.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160610_162855_zpsjfp32d7h.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160610_162855_zpsjfp32d7h.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160610_161338_zpspuqvjs94.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160610_161338_zpspuqvjs94.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160610_161344_zpsnxeylzae.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160610_161344_zpsnxeylzae.jpg.html)

Looks fucky, right? I grabbed a level to check their work, make sure that camber was identical side to side... Called it, they are COMPLETELY different.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160614_185140_zpshsf1n4ih.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160614_185140_zpshsf1n4ih.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160614_185206_zpsollm4eth.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160614_185206_zpsollm4eth.jpg.html)

At this point I went back and complained, they are going to be "fixing" it. They will also be cleaning up all of the sloppy numbers for everything else, going for the following:

Front:
Camber: -2.5*
Caster: 7.5*
Toe: 0*

Rear:
Camber: -1.5*
Caster: OEM
Toe: 0*

Anyway, I readjusted some of the rear arms for the time being and took the car out last night. I am beyond happy, even with the rear adjusted a little weird. Cornering grip is wonderful, the KA can't even break traction when cornering at high speeds under throttle, its honestly incredible. Found some slick concrete and tried out the S15 helical for the first time. Even on slick concrete, the car just accelerates. The inside tire will make a bit noise, but it won't completely break traction completely. Really excited to get more power under the hood.

Overall I am super happy with the car at this point. Probably going to get a new set of coilovers soon, I really want a nicer ride when I am driving the car around, the coils on it now are brutal on the streets... Probably going to lower it a bit more too.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160615_194348_zpse9yfrkxc.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160615_194348_zpse9yfrkxc.jpg.html)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160615_194407_zpsopjnfapa.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160615_194407_zpsopjnfapa.jpg.html)

tb13
07-05-2016, 11:25 PM
Plot Twist?

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160702_181801_zpsvtcmgbri.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160702_181801_zpsvtcmgbri.jpg.html)

Its been a bit, the car has been running and I have been driving it around, fixing issues that arise and tweaking the car all the time. So far the chassis has done nothing but impress me and make me wish there was something special under the hood to match the handling with some get up and go.

My quest for a CA18DET came to an end recently when I was unable to find a motor set. All of my local importers were unable to source one for me for a decent price which left me sitting with my thumb up my ass trying to decide what the next best thing would be.

Obvious choice is an SR20, but I have never been a fan of the DET head. They are restricted in the flow department and the valvetrain can be a nightmare. Sure, port and polished heads flow very well and upgrading the valvetrain extensively can make the valvetrain handle high rpm, but when it comes to cost vs performance the DET head lacks.

VET, Building a Better SR20

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That is where the VE head comes into play. I'm sure you are all aware of the incredible performance the SR20VE head offers when paired with a RWD block and turbo setup. The superior design makes for a head that flows incredibly well and packs a valvetrain that is capable of 9k+ rpm with stock parts. On top of outstanding flow and revised valvetrain, Nissan's NEO VVL allows for two cam profiles on the same camshaft to allow for profiles that are optimized for low/mid range power and top end without any sacrifice that comes with running a cam that is too aggressive or too mild. Best of both worlds.

I made this choice recently when I received a raise and decided that if I am going to build a motor, I may as well go all out the first time and regret nothing. Up until today it was just an idea, but I solidified my choice when I picked up a turbo setup that will accompany a VVL head perfectly.

This setup popped up locally for a great price and I had to have it. it consists of a Garrett GT3076R, Future Fabrication twin scroll manifold and downpipe that is compatible with any SR20 downpipe. With this setup I will be upping my power goal, but still shooting for great response. The manifold will be modified to run twin 38mm wastegates because at the moment it is setup to run a single 44mm that isn't divided, negating any gains twin scroll offers :facepalm: I was told this setup on a redtop SR made 390rwhp on 17psi hitting full boost around 4400rpm. I am aiming to make 400rwhp , but with the help of manifold modification and a VE head I hope to lower the spool to below 4krpm to make for a very nice power band that is streetable. I am also going to get a high boost tune for around 500rwhp for when I want to have some highway fun or just to do the occasional burnout :fawkd:

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160705_222734_zpspt8ke0ms.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160705_222734_zpspt8ke0ms.jpg.html)

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160705_222745_zpsdza1cddx.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160705_222745_zpsdza1cddx.jpg.html)

Lots to come, this isn't going to happen over night. I plan to cut no corners and build an SR20 that will be reliable and put a shit eating grin on my face every time I drive the car!

Antihero983
07-06-2016, 08:01 PM
Hurray for updates!!!

RalliartRsX
07-06-2016, 08:39 PM
LOL! I saw that setup for sale and was about to scoop the manifold. Much prefer that it went to you!

Glad you went away from the CA.

tb13
07-06-2016, 09:42 PM
Hurray for updates!!!

HURRAY! Now depression sets in as I stare at a sweet turbo setup that isn't on my car :facepalm:

LOL! I saw that setup for sale and was about to scoop the manifold. Much prefer that it went to you!

Glad you went away from the CA.

I JUMPED on it, I almost settled for a Borg Warner Airwerks turbo and a lame ass manifold.

I am happy and sad about going away from the CA. I would have had the car running way sooner with the CA, but I would have wanted more from day one which would have pissed me off... The SR is going to take a while, but I will have the setup of my dreams.

tb13
07-10-2016, 08:48 PM
Snagged a huge part of this build today! I have been looking for a really nice SR block for a few weeks now and a friend of mine offered to sell me one he was saving. I wanted a block that hadn't been over bored or decked so I could run the smallest overbore and an OEM P12 VE head gasket, this block is exactly that. 100% virgin block, never been decked, never been over bored. I payed a bit of a premium for it, but it was worth it to get a block I know I can trust.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160710_175201_zpspjjjkvrg.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160710_175201_zpspjjjkvrg.jpg.html)

tb13
07-17-2016, 02:35 PM
Haven't done much with the car lately, only drove it once this last week because its so damn hot outside... Drove it around last night and noticed a pretty nasty shake in the steering wheel which I think is due to having a sloppy inner tie rod on the drivers side. Regardless the car is still running well, but I seriously can't wait to get the SR into it and really enjoy the car.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160716_190542_zpsu3vvomxk.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160716_190542_zpsu3vvomxk.jpg.html)

A few weeks ago a craigslist post popped up for a new reman steering rack and a complete SR bottom end. The guys number seemed to be dead, but I kept checking it daily until he finally updated it. I finally got a hold of him and was able to go snag the parts. Ended up with the steering rack, complete redtop bottom end and an Xcessive skid plate for $200. :hsdance:

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/842a755f-b915-4120-9c10-0e8bcba2b70f_zpsqpaqh3ly.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/842a755f-b915-4120-9c10-0e8bcba2b70f_zpsqpaqh3ly.jpg.html)

The bottom end I picked up I am pretty excited for. I am still going to build a VET, but now that I have a complete stock bottom end I am going to make use of it while I build the VET's bottom end I really want. I was told this bottom end was replaced due to the motor smoking. The PO said the compression was perfect when pulled, but he didn't care to deal with finding the real issue so he just built a new bottom end and left this one to sit. It rotates over perfectly, cylinder walls look prefect and the pistons show no signs of detonation. With that said, I am going to refresh this bottom end with some new fasteners and slap the VE head on it so I can enjoy the car sooner. My turbo setup is going to be a bit much for it, but on E85 I should be able to make some nice power even with a stockish bottom end.

Now to some of you it might seem like a waste to spend money on rebuilding a stock bottom end, but to me it means that I can enjoy the car sooner. I'd love to do it all at once, but my income limits me quite a bit. With having it running, I will have all the time in the world to build a sweet bottom end that will handle how ever much power I want to make. I might even sleeve the extra block I have and run 90mm pistons to create an SR22...

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160716_122732_zpsbabapno2.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160716_122732_zpsbabapno2.jpg.html)

tb13
08-13-2016, 01:14 PM
So I think I am just going to keep this pile of shit since its so god damn hard to sell a GOOD S13. Sorry to anyone who was actually interested.

Its looking super basic on Z32 wheels for the time being, my 5Zigens were all out of balance so with these it drives so well. So well that it has swayed me to keep the car for the time being...

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/traxxasbasher13/20160806_100639_zps7ki4todp.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/traxxasbasher13/media/20160806_100639_zps7ki4todp.jpg.html)