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kazuo

08-25-2004, 12:18 AM

In case you don't know, NCDA (a local event organizer in Northern California) recently had to cancel a upcoming drifting event on Sept. 5th due to lack of sign-ups.

However, thanks to angry drivers (such as myself) and stubborn organizers, an attempt is being made to get more people to commit to attending the event!

The event was originally scheduled for September 5th (Sunday) at Altamont Speedway in Tracy, CA. (about an hour from most people in the Bay) If an additional 20 or so drivers commit to the event, the event WILL happen. Entry cost will be $100.

Come out and show your support for drifting in NorCal! Stop being a internet drifter and come out and drive for real! If you don't support events out here, there won't BE any events!

http://www.ncda.net/forums/showthread.php?t=366

Tell your friends! Please support drifting in NorCal!!!

Andrew Bohan

08-25-2004, 12:31 AM

werd, people. it's 100 bucks. i know a lot of you are poor, but how badly do you want legal events?
we need a grassroots following

SpeedMonkeyInc

08-25-2004, 12:40 AM

Altamont sucks. Thats the problem.

mk20116

08-25-2004, 12:42 AM

if you have a printed banner i can post it for you where i work.

S14DriftR

08-25-2004, 01:14 AM

an hour in which direction from the bay? If its to the south i may be able to go and bring some other central coast people.

TurDz

08-25-2004, 01:23 AM

Altamont sucks. Thats the problem.

bingo. seems like the first event was really screwed up for a lot of the people i know. it's definately not a beginners course either.

Andrew Bohan

08-25-2004, 01:35 AM

the mountains aren't too friendly for beginners either. :rolleyes:

kazuo

08-25-2004, 02:11 AM

Tracy is Northeast of San Francisco. Closer to Oakland, out of the two big cities.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&countryid=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=address&searchtype=address&address=&city=Tracy&state=Ca&zipcode=&search=++Search++

There is a flyer on the website. I am trying to get printed banners distributed to people willing to help get the word out. For now if you could print one out and post it ina appropriate place, that would help a lot!

As far as the course "sucking," its basically an oval like Irwindale. Yes the pavement is ass in the skids, but I didn't really see anyone having trouble getting it loose out there (provided they didnt suck to begin with, like me).

And as far as the difficulty or whatever, I completely suck at drift, and I only came close to hittin the wall once. And even then, the chance of me actually hitting was slim to none.

AND I SUCK.

Either you wanna drive or ya don't. I know its not perfect, but its hard to find a venue in NorCal, let alone actually have an event. Thats why you dont see them very often.

We have to work with what we have, and hope for things to improve in the future.

Trust me, I'm not all shits and giggles about the venue, but.. when you gotta go, you gotta go

TurDz

08-25-2004, 03:46 AM

good point. have you guys ever been to buttonwillow though? freakin awesome...

TRUENOCOUPE

08-25-2004, 10:05 AM

good point. have you guys ever been to buttonwillow though? freakin awesome...

Thats 3 hours from the bay. Which I go out there monthly but thats a diff case.

-Al

Zoom8112

08-25-2004, 11:17 AM

i really wanted to make this event but i didnt have enough time/money to get tires and a helmet.

if it gets postponed or moved - i'd like to know.

NotDave

08-25-2004, 11:56 AM

sounds like goodtimes

Buffalo Daughter

08-25-2004, 12:14 PM

Thats 3 hours from the bay. Which I go out there monthly but thats a diff case.

-Al
3 hours huh? maybe i should start going out there more often. Its judd btw al, the one with black s14.

TRUENOCOUPE

08-25-2004, 12:34 PM

3 hours huh? maybe i should start going out there more often. Its judd btw al, the one with black s14.

Oh I know...

With me driving, I can prolly hit 2-2.5 trailing my car.

-Al

kazuo

08-25-2004, 03:29 PM

Man,

Why do people think Sacramento is part of the Bay? It's not.

http://mq-mapgend.websys.aol.com/mqmapgend?MQMapGenRequest=FDR2dmwjDE%3byt2l%

It's almost like sayin Fresno is part of the bay.

SIGN UP DAMMIT

TurDz

08-25-2004, 03:36 PM

TRUENOCOUPE

08-25-2004, 04:14 PM

who thinks sacramento is part of the bay?

http://www.reaction-image.net/albums/album93/BANNER.jpg

Maybe you missed it.

-Al

BobbyBoy

08-25-2004, 04:22 PM

Im sick of all these norcal internet drifters. Im sick of all their whining, and procrastinating. "altamont sucks" Altamont is not a beginners course"
waah waah wah. Altamont is just as beginner friendly as any other course. If you have the correct line, and dont drive stupid then you probibly wont hit the wall. This is also one of the more technical tracks in nor cal. It forces you to learn and that is why i love that track. So come on, get out there, and drift.

Pepperoni

08-25-2004, 04:41 PM

^ yes, it may force you to "learn" but in a different way. I think without walls, most people will have more fun than worrying about the wall jumping in front of them. Plus, it doesn't matter if you're new or very experienced. Everyone crashes. Walls will increase the chance of fuking up your car.

And i think it's pretty much the same experience without walls; you'll still need to stay on the pavement. But at least if you spinout or lose control, you just land on dirt. But at Altamont, or any track with walls for that matter, if you spin out, you can potentially TOTAL your car (higher probability that is).

And yes i've gone to Altamont (see sig) and a few other tracks (non-bay area). So i know first hand.

And yeah, i agree with kazuo, Altamont is one of the very few tracks AVAILABLE for norcal, so we really only have two choices: Go, or don't go. We don't have the convenience of choosing to go to a different event.

Im sure most of you can agree that a track without walls is more welcoming than a track with walls.

kazuo

08-25-2004, 07:52 PM

I agree with pizza topping man. Walls suck, but we don't really have a choice, now do we?

Just grow some balls and try your best to stay off the wall. That's not to say I'm some manyly man with balls the size of grapefruits (although they are not tiny, either), its just to say that sometimes you need to work up a bit of courage and go do it.

Kinda like when you see that chick at the club, and you wanna go "holler."

Here's a hint: Just becuse you're at a track doesn't mean you should drive past your limit! It's the same as if you were in the twisties.

S14DriftR

08-25-2004, 08:18 PM

I think its funny how people call the bay area "norcal" on a map it looks like the middle of the state to me, Im from humboldt county, thats really northern cali. But now in sb, only 1.5 hours from l.a. we are considered the central coast, funny stuff

thx247

08-25-2004, 08:25 PM

It is weird, but until someone north of the bay area lays claim to being norcal....San jose is norcal =)

DJPimpFlex

08-25-2004, 09:58 PM

walls are whatever. I went to the first event at altamont and it was bad ass. The only reason that i cant go to this one is because I fucked my car on the moutain, heance my race car being built. I wanna hit the track and altamont is the best we got. Stop complaining and drift.

Matt

CustomS14A

08-25-2004, 10:19 PM

Im going no matter what even if i dont get my stuff in the mail but im still going to bring my sloppy car....

NZO

08-25-2004, 10:49 PM

http://www.hodap.com/bomex/canada.jpg

NotDave

08-25-2004, 11:08 PM

http://www.reaction-image.net/albums/album93/BANNER.jpg

Maybe you missed it.

-Al

its just not spaced properly
it should say

norcal, sacramento, bay area

S14DriftR

08-26-2004, 12:47 AM

hey man, good things come from true norcal, dont hate. Anyone thats ever got a sample of blueberry or trainwreck knows what im talking about

TRUENOCOUPE

08-26-2004, 11:25 AM

hey man, good things come from true norcal, dont hate. Anyone thats ever got a sample of blueberry or trainwreck knows what im talking about

Its even gay from NORCAL fucks to take pics of their car getting sideways for a point of a second.

-Al

sr240mike

08-26-2004, 11:43 AM

Ahh, you cant forget CenCal, the San Luis Obispo Area!!! Im skipping Altamont and going to Infineon on Sept 11th.

kazuo

08-26-2004, 07:35 PM

http://www.lazypenguin.net/poop/canada.jpg

Var

08-26-2004, 08:20 PM

altamont is gay. Ncda keeps flaking on their events. This is complete bullshit.
Here's a suggestion...ditch altamont. I know it's really convenient and they give you the track for FREE(yes that's FREE) but you cant keep taking registrations and money and then ditching people cause you're not making enough money. You shouldnt be in it to make money right now. You should be securing your future customers.

Andrew Bohan

08-26-2004, 10:42 PM

whatever happened to BayCal?

neevosh

08-28-2004, 06:42 PM

Too bad it had to get cancelled. NCDA is the only one really trying to promote any type of track drifting in Norcal. There really aren't any other tracks around here that allow drifting. Sears and Laguna certainly don't.

If it was on Saturday I would have signed up. Can't make Sundays. I had a blast the last 2 times I was at Altamont. I was finally getting the course down. Walls aren't scary, just don't stare at them. I don't even notice them when I'm out there.

blu808

08-29-2004, 02:53 PM

Ok to set the record straight.
NCDA has lost money on all the last drift events at altamont.
We dont get the track for free. (if we did then why would it be cancelled?)
We have to pay for. Track, Insurance, Cleanup, Medical, and fyers.
I go out there all day and instruct, and i dont get paid.

You guys just have to understand that we are not Nasa, that allready has the track for that day, and it doesnt cost them anymore to host an event.

No disrespect to anyone, but lets show some support, remember when drift events were only in so cal? It may be like that again if we dont get out there and do it.

Var

08-29-2004, 10:15 PM

i PROMISE to try my HARDEST to make it to every NCDA event at good venues. I would like to see drifting blowup like socal.

ghostuss

08-29-2004, 10:37 PM

i PROMISE to try my HARDEST to make it to every NCDA event at good venues. I would like to see drifting blowup like socal.

Haha, me2. Drift on baby :2f2f:

And also about the NCDA, man I wish they can honor this event since they cancelled the last one already.

Toahk

08-29-2004, 11:12 PM

the chance of me actually hitting was slim to none.

bah, may 30th event....hmm 1, wait 2, no wait 3 people hit the wall. slim to none my ass.

Toahk

08-29-2004, 11:13 PM

But that was the first event and all, I guess practice makes perfect.

blu808

08-29-2004, 11:20 PM

Thats all part of track racing, If the wall wasnt there then it would have been sand or dirt. Its all the same to me.

kazuo

08-29-2004, 11:36 PM

bah, may 30th event....hmm 1, wait 2, no wait 3 people hit the wall. slim to none my ass.

You act like fucking pro drivers never hit the wall. hmm 1, wait 2, no wait 3 people hit the wall at D1 in Irwindale.

Did you forget that one guy that hit the wall was generally driving poorly the whole day (the Supra).. another guy was driving a pink car he wasnt even used to, and the last guy.. well, I don't remember who else hit the wall.

I disagree with Luke's assertion that you just gotta go out there and "push yourself" when there's walls around, however. Just cause you're on a track doesnt mean you drive past your limits.

I'm not making excuses for it. But there are always factors that come into play. Fact is, shit happens. Whatever. Frankly if you're worried about hitting a wall, maybe we should all stop driving in the hills too.

It's no different really. Except that you're paying money to go on the track. You go up to the twisties, you take the risk of hitting a car/a tree/a deer/flying off the cliff/etc etc etc

But its free!

And I'm sure you, and most of the other people here do it, so how is it any different? Except for the fact that you're paying $100 to do it on a track, and don't have to worry about flying off a cliff (http://guernsey.globat.com/~mountainracer.com/tech/driftoffcliff/index.html) or killing someone (yourself included?)

I'd rather hit a concrete wall wearing a helmet than fly into another car without a helmet on.

But no, lets not go to the track and practice in a controlled environment. Cus there's a wall. Fuck that wall! I'mma go drift in the twisties instead. Ain't no walls up there! And it's free!

You don't wanna hit shit? Too bad, that comes with the territory. You drift, you're bound to hit something. Concrete walls or not. If your car is a daily driver and you're worried about smashing it, you shouldnt be drifting it.

SilviaNinja240

08-29-2004, 11:57 PM

flying off a cliff (http://guernsey.globat.com/~mountainracer.com/tech/driftoffcliff/index.html)

BWAHAHAHAHAHA, I swear he'll never see this end of this joke.

sr20pwrdSiLvIa

08-30-2004, 02:48 PM

JUST GO OUT AND FUCKING DRIFT AND STOP ALL THE FUCKING DRAMA, WE SHOULD JUST BE FRIENDLY WITH ONE ANOTHER, AND STOP FUCKING HATIN ON EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME, NONE OF US ARE VERY GOOD,THE SO CAL GUYS WILL KICK ALL OF ARE ASSES, EVERYBODY WOULD RATHER JUST SIT ON ZILVIA ALL DAY AND JUST TALK ABOUT DRIFTING AND HOW GOOD THEY ARE, THEN ACTUALLY GO OUT AND GET BETTER, WERE LUCKY WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE NCDA IN NORCAL OR WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU GUYS WANT TO CALL IT, TO TRY TO GET THINGS GOING OUT HERE, BUT NO ALL YOU GUYS JUST FUCKING WHINE AND BITCH ABOUT ALTAMONT IS GAY, THERES TO MANY WALLS =( YOU FUCKING INTERNET DRIFTERS, WITH YOUR INTERNET CREWS, AND MOST OF THE MEMBERS DONT EVEN HAVE CARS, BUT THERE GOOD AT GT3 SO THEY THINK THEY ARE DRIFTERS. JUST GET OVER THE FUCKING DRAMA AND START ACTUALLY DRIFTING, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT I SAID GIVE ME A CALL AND DONT TALK SHIT ON ZILVIA LIKE A FORUM FAG.

Ryan 408-603-9325

Zoom8112

08-30-2004, 03:05 PM

damn homeboy left his number for you guys to call.

thats gangster.

Var

08-30-2004, 03:11 PM

NONE OF US ARE VERY GOOD,THE SO CAL GUYS WILL KICK ALL OF ARE ASSES.

EVERYBODY WOULD RATHER JUST SIT ON ZILVIA ALL DAY AND JUST TALK ABOUT DRIFTING AND HOW GOOD THEY ARE

AND MOST OF THE MEMBERS DONT EVEN HAVE CARS, BUT THERE GOOD AT GT3 SO THEY THINK THEY ARE DRIFTERS.

my first time drifting was at altamont and i crashed into a wall. you can understand how that can effect my opinion of the track.

The 3 above statements are false.

BobbyBoy

08-30-2004, 03:20 PM

Var

08-30-2004, 03:31 PM

Var i understand your concern, but with drifting comes the chance of breaking shit. Just like in the mountains, if its not a wall, tree, other car or a cliff, then it will be something. When ya going to call me for your turbo upgrade??

Ohh this is Luke. on Bobbys sn.

it is unacceptable for me to get my car sideways around walls whether it be in the mountains or the track. The only way you can really learn how to drift is to push your limits...you have to find out your car's limits as far as angles and such...it's not fair to for newbs like me to practice in a zero tolerance environment.

p.s. whenever your garage is available.

Andrew Bohan

08-30-2004, 04:00 PM

If the wall wasnt there then it would have been sand or dirt. Its all the same to me.

i'd MUCH rather hit sand or dirt than a wall.
even better is just more pavement (with no way to catch and flip over)

what kind of track has pavement beyond the track though?
hmmm
hmmmmm

sr20pwrdSiLvIa

08-30-2004, 05:02 PM

kazuo

08-30-2004, 05:05 PM

i'd MUCH rather hit sand or dirt than a wall.
even better is just more pavement (with no way to catch and flip over)

what kind of track has pavement beyond the track though?
hmmm
hmmmmm

I know, I know!

A PARKING LOT! :D

sr20pwrdSiLvIa

08-30-2004, 05:08 PM

and if your affraid of hiting a wall or anything, then you should NOT be drifting, when you are driving on a race track and you purposely kick the back end out at a high speed, you have a good chance of crashing, its not always going to go as planed, if that's not okae with you then you should give up drifting. Ive crashed my car twice and Ive crashed my friends car once, it sucks, but you cant let it scare you, otherwise you'll crash again, and those statements I made earlier are not false!

-Ryan

Var

08-30-2004, 06:58 PM

Bullshit the 3 above statements are false, how long have been drifting? bullshit the soCal guys won't kick our asses, no offense but if you or any of the guys that have gone to altamont, and I do know your skill Ive been to all the events there, Im not sayin that your a bad driver, but anyways if you or anybody from Altamont went down to the Drivers Search in SoCal none of you would place, and Im not saying that Im good or anything because Im not, I wouldn't place either, but it just goes to show you that the skill level in SoCAl is alot higher than up here. And that is a FACT!!! dont even try to counter that.

1-i think luke+a few more norcal would have a chance of placing
2-hubert and calvin and alex have already participated in D1(norcal guys)
3-no offense taken..i refer to myself as a "newb"

i'm not gonna argue with you anymore, but go read your statements word for word and they are all false.

NONE OF US ARE VERY GOOD,THE SO CAL GUYS WILL KICK ALL OF ARE ASSES not true

EVERYBODY WOULD RATHER JUST SIT ON ZILVIA ALL DAY AND JUST TALK ABOUT DRIFTING AND HOW GOOD THEY ARE
not true i'd rather be driving instead of working 60 hours a week

AND MOST OF THE MEMBERS DONT EVEN HAVE CARS, BUT THERE GOOD AT GT3 SO THEY THINK THEY ARE DRIFTERS.
not true, i dont personally know a single member who doesnt have their car. they all come to the meets and some come driving in the mountains. also not one person that i talk to considers themself a drifter unless they actually do it quite often.

but anyways if you or anybody from Altamont went down to the Drivers Search in SoCal none of you would place
people from Altamont still have a chance

also very sneaky of you to change your statement from anyone in norcal to anyone in norcal from altamont. Kind of like weapons of mass destruction to possible programs of weapons of mass destruction

Var

08-30-2004, 07:01 PM

and if your affraid of hiting a wall or anything, then you should NOT be drifting, when you are driving on a race track and you purposely kick the back end out at a high speed, you have a good chance of crashing,

-Ryan

sorry to drag this on but i still dont agree with you. when you are driftin at buttonwillow, or in a lot(like drift day or whatever), your chances of crashing are SLIM to NONE. in fact i dont even know when the last time was that someone crashed besides at altamont(into a wall) and irwindale(into a fucking wall)

fuck oval courses. only nascars deserve to be crashed into walls.

jaae86

08-30-2004, 07:39 PM

Cool down guys, no need to bash each other. It's just not worthed. We are all drift lovers and nothing will change that. I know we have different opinions but we all still fall under one thing, WE LOVE DRIFTING AND RACING.

Im working things out with Sac SCCA to have a drift event for beginneers and advanced drivers (See my other post "Sac SCCA Drift Practice Event in the works"). It's not going to be anything fancy but it's a beginning.

Have Fun not Hate!

Andrew Bohan

08-30-2004, 07:59 PM

i just thought of a fun analogy.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010522/3sports.gif
you guys know about balance beam right?
imo those people are fucking crazy. good chance of falling off and fucking yourself up.

i GUARANTEE NO ONE starts to learn balance beam on a real balance beam.

and NO ONE criticizes them and says, "if you're afraid of falling off, you shouldn't do balance beam"

once they get good, then they get on the real thing, and the chances of falling off are way less than beginners.

blu808

08-31-2004, 01:10 AM

If you guys were at the may 30th event. Then you prob saw me drifting. If you noticed, i wasnt doing anything crazy. I was just going out, and taking the same line all day long. Giving people rides to show them the correct line and such.

However the day before in course setup, and practice. I was drifting the big banking, and was suprised to have not kissed the wall.

If you are trying to learn more, and crash then you are cool.

If you are trying to go beyond your limits, and crash! all you will learn is not to do that again.

Var

08-31-2004, 09:37 AM

If you are trying to go beyond your limits, and crash! all you will learn is not to do that again.

exactly right luke. thank you. all you will learn is to not do that again. if you go beyond your limits and you spin out and DONT hit a wall, you will try to push it again to the edge without spinning out and will learn to take your car at a higher angle through the turn.

BTW i still think you were doing better than anyone out there on may 30th although you were smooth and conservative, if the walls werent there i know you would have been going balls out. :rawk:

sr20pwrdSiLvIa

08-31-2004, 01:30 PM

No what you need to do is sell that fucking pink car and buy a Cadilac or somthing and stop drifting or driving of any sort, Nobody wants to have a meet at a fucking tool store buddy.

Sorry

Var

08-31-2004, 01:38 PM

No what you need to do is sell that fucking pink car and buy a Cadilac or somthing and stop drifting or driving of any sort, Nobody wants to have a meet at a fucking tool store buddy.

Sorry

haha :down:

whatever you say bro. you dont have to get all butthurt about me proving you wrong. that was 2 childish unrelated irrlevant comments in a row, just like your above post which was in caps. what you need to do is step away from your computer and stop going on forums if you cant play nice.

Also, let me quote you again.

IF ANY OF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT I SAID GIVE ME A CALL AND DONT TALK SHIT ON ZILVIA LIKE A FORUM FAG.

i didnt know what you meant by a forum fag. thanks for clearing it up.

WE SHOULD JUST BE FRIENDLY WITH ONE ANOTHER, AND STOP FUCKING HATIN ON EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME

:stupid:

blu808

08-31-2004, 02:39 PM

exactly right luke. thank you. all you will learn is to not do that again. if you go beyond your limits and you spin out and DONT hit a wall, you will try to push it again to the edge without spinning out and will learn to take your car at a higher angle through the turn.

BTW i still think you were doing better than anyone out there on may 30th although you were smooth and conservative, if the walls werent there i know you would have been going balls out. :rawk:

Thanks Var. I wish i could have been tearing it up, But Todd told me
" it would look bad if one of the instructors crashes. So just stay on the regular line ".

It was still fun though.

I should have that pos out of my garage by thursday

sr20pwrdSiLvIa

08-31-2004, 03:52 PM

Proved who wrong? what did you prove?

:wtf: :smash: :spank:

sr20pwrdSiLvIa

08-31-2004, 03:55 PM

I wouldnt be talkin shit on Zilvia if I had your #, if you wanna meet up some where and talk face 2 face Im fuckin down bro.

sr20pwrdSiLvIa

08-31-2004, 03:59 PM

Did you see hubert at Formula D? Calvin was good, but I wouldnt be sayin Huberts name to rep for NorCal.

Var

08-31-2004, 06:23 PM

I wouldnt be talkin shit on Zilvia if I had your #, if you wanna meet up some where and talk face 2 face Im fuckin down bro.

i have no problem talking face to face. what would you like to talk about? i've already made my points and proved you wrong 2 or 3 times and all you've done is act like all those people i beat in counterstrike. WHy should i come down to san jose to hear more of your nonsense. Maybe if you presented yourself like a normal human being we could have a normal conversation. In fact go re-read this whole thread. I was very respectful in my approach to try to make my point, but you wouldnt have it. it's like you're intentionally trying to start some shit with me after you make a post claiming we should all be friendly to eachother. Seriously...am i the only one that sees this? I tried to be nice until you got itchy vagina. read this thread again tomorrow maybe it will look different to you.