will my AGX's blow faster if i leave them on full stiff?

[INeedNewTires]

im using AGX's and RSR race springs. both new, was wondering if they will blow sooner if i leave them on full stiff cause i love it that way. man wish i had coilovers i dont think its stiff enough. any info is appreciated and yes i searched, maby not very good but i did.

thanks in advance

[kandyflip445]

IIRC the "race springs" have too high of a spring rate for the agx and will blow out anyways. If you want to keep the shock/spring setup get koni's or just save till those blow and get some nice coilovers that are a little stiffer to meet your needs.

[max power]

above post is complete bullshit. it's jsut a common misconception that's mouthed off from one person, or poster, to the next.

I'm posting a reply because I jsut recently purchased this same setup and am concerned with prolonging the life of my KYBs on philly streets.

[Var]

it's said that if you drive any shock on stiffer settings, they will wear out quicker. i dont know

[Mr. Badlose]

max power: How recently?

[yudalicious]

im using AGX's and RSR race springs. both new, was wondering if they will blow sooner if i leave them on full stiff cause i love it that way. man wish i had coilovers i dont think its stiff enough. any info is appreciated and yes i searched, maby not very good but i did.

thanks in advance


yes the higher it is the faster it will wear out... however, if you prefer 4/8 settings then keep them on 4/8, I've had mine AGX and RSR for awhile now and they're fine, I go between 3/6 daily to 4/8 daily depending on what I feel like. You hafta make sure to avoid big potholes and bad roads etc/

[Dream240]

This was covered already, search dude.

Anyways, no it will not wear them out to set them all the way up. But it will wear out your ass!! Why drive around like that all day? Just set them at 1 and turn em up when you get to the tracks or in the night drives.

And yes struts will wear premature with any stiffer suspension. Not drastically but a little in this case. Also your driving will wear them out faster than anything. Hit every big bump in the road and track your car every weekend and they'll wear out sooner than later. And that post IS bullshit. AGXs are designed for a sport setup, hence lowering springs with a higher spring rate. If you still have questions, look up KYB and email them some questions about their products!! They'll know better than anybody.

[INeedNewTires]

thanks for the info, yea i avoid all the potholes and bad roads, and go VERY slow over speed bumps. I love to feel the road as much as possible though and my butt doesnt get sore in my sparco ultra. Ill probably adjust them when i autoX next because i think i have a little too much oversteer, could be complimented with the crappy rear tires though but either way i want to somewhat neutralize the car.... bias on oversteer of course. Ive heard various people say the only thing to get with RSR race is konis, well i say Eff that and im glad most of you agree that these AGX's can hold up to the 5/4.5 stiffness.........

On another note, im thinking of selling them because i kindof want to rally my car so i think im going to get some coilovers so i can actually raise my car when i want to so if anyone wants to buy this setup WITH upper mounts im taking offers for around 500 shipped. Remember they are both near new, im inquiring i basically just bought the setup, AND they come ready to bolt in like coilovers, upper mounts and everything, no need to get a spring compressor and use your tools and time to install. They are for s13. email me at [email protected] if interested. thanks

[Yoshi]

um.. you guys will notice that KYB makes short stroke AGX as well (purple ones). There are partial truths on both sides of this arguement.

You CAN blow the AGX's much sooner depending on the springs, but that has to do with the lowering/ride height. Slamming a car with AGXs WILL cause much increased premature wear and cause them to blow much sooner. The general rule I was told by people at Ground Control, was that if you go below about a 2.25-2.5 inch drop, you're causing increased wear (the reason there is now an option for short stroke dampers). This is also the reason it's not advisable to pair up Eibach sportlines with AGX.

HOWEVER, spring tension has NOTHING to do with the wear of the shocks (or at least too little by comparison with drastically lowering your ride height)

I myself have been running AGX with GC coils for 2 years now, lowered about .75in. from stock, set at 2/4 (F/R) for DD... unless I'm at the track.

[kandyflip445]

I was refering to this thread about the "too high spring rate".

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=57174

[Yoshi]

I was refering to this thread about the "too high spring rate".

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=57174

ok, so what I got from that was that most ppl with the higher spring rates were track cars that were far below the recommended drop height anyhow... so it's an insult to injury case. no?

[kandyflip445]

so it's an insult to injury case. no?

The dampers? :confused:

[Dream240]

The general rule I was told by people at Ground Control, was that if you go below about a 2.25-2.5 inch drop, you're causing increased wear (the reason there is now an option for short stroke dampers). This is also the reason it's not advisable to pair up Eibach sportlines with AGX.

Okay but this is doesn't really apply to the S14. Cause the Sportlines are a 1.7 inch drop in front (1.4 in rear) which is well under 2.25-2.5. This rule really only applies to the S13 in which the Sportlines go much lower.

Just thought I'd throw that in.

[brianglawson]

what blows agx's fast is how low your springs drop the car, they are only ment to be used at a max of 1.5 lower than stock, im to low with my eibach pros!! thats the reason they blow with GC's so much is becasue people slam them and they will only last for about 15k

[AAA240SX]

what blows agx's fast is how low your springs drop the car, they are only ment to be used at a max of 1.5 lower than stock, im to low with my eibach pros!! thats the reason they blow with GC's so much is becasue people slam them and they will only last for about 15k

agreed...of all the suspension setups i've installed, the ones that have lasted the longest without blowing out were the ones that didn't have excessive drops

[Red]

I have had AGX with my RSR-Race springs for a while now with no issues...

I run 4/4 in front and 6/8 in back... This works very well on my car.

But my car is setup weard :)
235-40-18 front with Dunlop 8000's
265-35-18 back with Sumitomo HTR Z II


You can't have the best of both... If youre going to mod you car deal with the ride...