Water temp on cluster not accurate

[2plus4plus0eq6]

Hey guys,

I have a zenki s14 sr20det in my 89 s13. My water temp gauge in my cluster works, but doesn't seem accurate. It takes forever to warm up and once it does, it seems to drop back down. I don't have an aftermarket water temp gauge hooked up to compare. I do have a gauge laying around, but don't exactly know where to hook it up in the engine bay.

I supposedly bought a dohc cluster and put it in, but I think the guy sold me a sohc since my rpm doesn't work.

Does the water temp sensor have to match the water temp gauge on the cluster? if so, is my s14 zenki temp sensor not the right match for my s13 sohc cluster?

Thanks

[Kingtal0n]

One of the two sensors (the single wire sensor) under the throttle body is responsible. You need the S13 redtop sensor. I think one from a sentra will work, like a 1992 sentra SE-R 2.0 (same engine). I think thats what I used back when I was into redtops.

Sell the zenki sensor to someone with a redtop in a zenki.

[TheRealSy90]

All you have to do is match the gauge sensor to the cluster you have. Doesn't matter what cluster you use as long as the sensor is from the same car/year for it to work properlyx


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[2plus4plus0eq6]

Thanks for the quick responses guys.

Correct me if I am wrong here. According to Frsport (http://www.frsport.com/Nissan-22630-51E02-OEM-ECU-Temperature-Sensor-SR20-KA24DE-CA18-VG30--Square-Type-_p_27744.html), I the 89-94 KA24E and KA24DE and 94-96 SR20DET both take the 22630-51E02 coolant temp sensor. So it sounds like I must have the right sensor with the right guage? (square head connector).

I guess I could try hooking up my aftermarket guage somewhere in the bay and test the resistance of the sensor to see if it matches. possible to just hook the wires from the gauge right to the sensor wires or no?

[jr_ss]

You need the S13 single wire water temp sensor. I have one I'll give you if you pay for shipping.

[2plus4plus0eq6]

You need the S13 single wire water temp sensor. I have one I'll give you if you pay for shipping.

Shit... single wire?? hah... my harness I got from wiring specialties has 2 wires.. which one do I use for the sensor once I replace it??

I appreciate your offer, but I would rather pick up the sensor locally since I can get it right away, plus I am in canada which is probably the other side form you.

[2plus4plus0eq6]

OK i just did some research... I guess theres 2 sensors in the car. 2 wire for the ecu and a 1 wire sensor for the dash. makes sense. I know where the 2 wire one is. where the heck is the 1 wire one???

[KoukiMonsta]

OK i just did some research... I guess theres 2 sensors in the car. 2 wire for the ecu and a 1 wire sensor for the dash. makes sense. I know where the 2 wire one is. where the heck is the 1 wire one???

did you use your eyeballs?

they are a centimeter apart..

[rwtf]

did you use your eyeballs?

they are a centimeter apart..

lol....:picardfp:

[2plus4plus0eq6]

did you use your eyeballs?

they are a centimeter apart..

lol ok far enough. I'll take a look. thanks ;)

[2plus4plus0eq6]

Just a quick update cause no one ever does this when things are solved. I got an s13 gauge water temp sensor and replaced the stock one in my s14 sr20. Works perfectly now. Not much coolant came out. No need for flushing radiator. Just cover engine parts with garbage bag.

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[JSimpson]

What are you looking to do with that S14 sensor? If you are looking to get rid of it, I'm interested

[2plus4plus0eq6]

What are you looking to do with that S14 sensor? If you are looking to get rid of it, I'm interested

Im like a million miles away. Wouldn't it be easier for you to get get one from your local store. what car do you have?

[kashira kureijii]

As for that rpm thing, you can just swap to the DOHC tacho face, you don't have to switch the entire cluster.
Makes things easier I dunno

[JSimpson]

97 S14 with zenki SR

[2plus4plus0eq6]

As for that rpm thing, you can just swap to the DOHC tacho face, you don't have to switch the entire cluster.
Makes things easier I dunno

ya thats what I am supposed to have. THe guy who sold it to me LIED lol. Its not working, so I am guessing he sold me the sohc one.now I am scared to get another dohc one cause I don't know how to tell that its dohc

97 S14 with zenki SR

The sensor on the motor should be perfect for your s14 gauge already. the years match up. If its broken, go grab a new one from a parts store.

[TheRealSy90]

I believe one of the tachs goes slightly higher, don't remember which one.

[2plus4plus0eq6]

I believe one of the tachs goes slightly higher, don't remember which one.

Tachs or sensors?

Sensor location doesn't matter, just need to be the right sensor which I think it comes with the right one already. The 'engine coolant temp sensor' is like an inch to the right from the 'gauge coolant temp sensor'

You will need a 12mm deep socket to change the sensor.

[TheRealSy90]

I'm just talking about the tachometer in your gauge cluster, to determine which is which.

[2plus4plus0eq6]

I'm just talking about the tachometer in your gauge cluster, to determine which is which.

O sorry.. Higher? weird. I thought it was a direct fit and everything

[kashira kureijii]

Just buy a jdm s13 cluster, unbolt the tacho from it, and put it directly on your original SOHC cluster, thats what I did on my 89. easy cheezy. You can also swap to km's cuz jdm life bro! but i kinda regret doing it.

The jdm sr20 one has the redline at like 7500 instead of 6500 or whatever

Also why would the sensor go higher jeezus

[2plus4plus0eq6]

Just buy a jdm s13 cluster, unbolt the tacho from it, and put it directly on your original SOHC cluster, thats what I did on my 89. easy cheezy. You can also swap to km's cuz jdm life bro! but i kinda regret doing it.

The jdm sr20 one has the redline at like 7500 instead of 6500 or whatever

Also why would the sensor go higher jeezus

Ya I actually saw that on ebay. speedo goes to like 240km and fuel gauge is a little different. everything just looks better. your right. thats probably the best thing to do. then at least I know my shit will work, but broke at the moment.

[kashira kureijii]

Ya I actually saw that on ebay. speedo goes to like 240km and fuel gauge is a little different. everything just looks better. your right. thats probably the best thing to do. then at least I know my shit will work, but broke at the moment.

You don't need the nismo 240km one, cuz its unlikely you'll ever be going 240km's

Just buy the base model silvia ones, they're like $100

Also as i said, you don't have to switch to km's, the cluster will read mph normally, just swap the tacho (and the glass if your glass is scratched up) that way you keep original mileage etc.

But i guess if your in canada you use km's anyway huh? so might as well swap the spedo as well

[2plus4plus0eq6]

You don't need the nismo 240km one, cuz its unlikely you'll ever be going 240km's

Just buy the base model silvia ones, they're like $100

Also as i said, you don't have to switch to km's, the cluster will read mph normally, just swap the tacho (and the glass if your glass is scratched up) that way you keep original mileage etc.

But i guess if your in canada you use km's anyway huh? so might as well swap the spedo as well

I know what you're saying. no point in spending a shit load. All I really need is that tach. everyhing else I have. I just wish there was a visual way of telling between the sohc and dohc so I don't get screwed again. Its a lot of work to take my dash off just to see that I got f*cked over again

[kashira kureijii]

Just go on ebay, and buy one that has japan in the place of origin and your done, not a big deal. Plus they usually pack them with badass japanese newspapers for that extra JDM style man. You can read them and realize your glad you don't have to pay for $15 dollar pizzas, $8.00 gas, $300 tires etc.
That way you know for sure its gonna work (cuz japan, and also they got all DOHC)
Taking of the cluster in s13's isn't that hard anyway

[2plus4plus0eq6]

Just go on ebay, and buy one that has japan in the place of origin and your done, not a big deal. Plus they usually pack them with badass japanese newspapers for that extra JDM style man. You can read them and realize your glad you don't have to pay for $15 dollar pizzas, $8.00 gas, $300 tires etc.
That way you know for sure its gonna work (cuz japan, and also they got all DOHC)
Taking of the cluster in s13's isn't that hard anyway
Thanks for the advice

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[corby_baby]

Hey guys,

I have a zenki s14 sr20det in my 89 s13. My water temp gauge in my cluster works, but doesn't seem accurate. It takes forever to warm up and once it does, it seems to drop back down. I don't have an aftermarket water temp gauge hooked up to compare. I do have a gauge laying around, but don't exactly know where to hook it up in the engine bay.

Thanks

Takes forever to warm up and drops back down (im assuming when you are cruising).

Sounds like your thermostat is stuck open.

[TheRealSy90]

The hell I never said anything about a sensor. I SAID THAT EITHER THE DOHC OR SOHC TACHOMETER GOES TO A HIGHER RPM. Figure out which and you'll know which tacho you have... JDM tacho goes to 9.

[2plus4plus0eq6]

Takes forever to warm up and drops back down (im assuming when you are cruising).

Sounds like your thermostat is stuck open.

No it was just the sensor I had in my car. I solved the problem.

The hell I never said anything about a sensor. I SAID THAT EITHER THE DOHC OR SOHC TACHOMETER GOES TO A HIGHER RPM. Figure out which and you'll know which tacho you have... JDM tacho goes to 9.

I didn't know what the hell you were talking about. I thought you meant mounted higher or some shit. you need to chill out. I am 99% sure that the sohc and dohc tachs both go to 8k and red lines at 6500. so how the hell do I tell unless I know the part numbers. the jdm ones go to 9k and red lines at 7500 so I know for sure those are good.

[TheRealSy90]

I'm chill bro, just trying to get my point across. I was referring to the redline on the tach without realizing it, they both go to 8k. However the SOHC redline starts at 6, DOHC starts at 7. SOHC Speedo goes to 115, DOHC to 110.

SOHC
http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq111/drsb08_89240/parts020.jpg

DOHC
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc40/r33silvia/Picture003.jpg

[2plus4plus0eq6]

I'm chill bro, just trying to get my point across. I was referring to the redline on the tach without realizing it, they both go to 8k. However the SOHC redline starts at 6, DOHC starts at 7. SOHC Speedo goes to 115, DOHC to 110.

SOHC
http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq111/drsb08_89240/parts020.jpg

DOHC
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc40/r33silvia/Picture003.jpg

I never noticed the differences before in the speedo. I still don't believe the sohc and dohc have different redlines.. explain this one to me:

Dohc speedo with sohc tach?? I just talked to the guy who is selling this. He said it came out of his 91 s13 w/ s14 ka24de
CLUSTER (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/s13-guage-cluster-/181807988769?)

[TheRealSy90]

I still don't believe the sohc and dohc have different redlines..


How do you not believe it? I just posted proof. Did you look at the pictures? The RED line on the sohc tach starts at 6k, and it starts at 7k on the DOHC tach. It's red it stands out...

[2plus4plus0eq6]

How do you not believe it? I just posted proof. Did you look at the pictures? The RED line on the sohc tach starts at 6k, and it starts at 7k on the DOHC tach. It's red it stands out...

Sorry man. I need a second opinion on this. No offense, but I've been told lots of wrong shit in the past, so I can't just go off of what 1 person says all the time. I know you're trying to help, but you kinda have to to see where I am coming from. Your evidence just doesn't add up. I believe there are dohc tachs out there that start at 6k. If I am wrong then I am wrong.. I don't give a shit. But I need more opinions here.

[TheRealSy90]

Well there isn't, every dohc tach redline is at 7-8k.


How does my evidence not add up? It's right there plain and clear lol.


Maybe youtube some videos of dohc and sohc cars that show the cluster idk man. You're making it way too complicated.

[2plus4plus0eq6]

Well there isn't, every dohc tach redline is at 7-8k.


How does my evidence not add up? It's right there plain and clear lol.


Maybe youtube some videos of dohc and sohc cars that show the cluster idk man. You're making it way too complicated.

maybe that fucker on ebay that is selling his cluster swapped out his tach now its fucking up my head lol..

anyways I appreciate your help. I'll look into it some more

[Beijing_Raccoon]

Sorry man. I need a second opinion on this. No offense, but I've been told lots of wrong shit in the past, so I can't just go off of what 1 person says all the time. I know you're trying to help, but you kinda have to to see where I am coming from. Your evidence just doesn't add up. I believe there are dohc tachs out there that start at 6k. If I am wrong then I am wrong.. I don't give a shit. But I need more opinions here.

Can confirm the differences in the DOHC & SOHC clusters. You're wrong. If you want I can show you two different cluster I have. But it'd basically be the same as the other guy's pictures.

[2plus4plus0eq6]

Can confirm the differences in the DOHC & SOHC clusters. You're wrong. If you want I can show you two different cluster I have. But it'd basically be the same as the other guy's pictures.

Thanks man. I appreciate the help. I admit I am wrong ;) but happy I got a the right answer in the end

[kruked]

Thanks man. I appreciate the help. I admit I am wrong ;) but happy I got a the right answer in the end

Dude, you really need to Google pictures and shit that pertains to 240's.
I'm not trying to be too much of a douche, but you really make the simplest of shit soooo difficult.

[2plus4plus0eq6]

Dude, you really need to Google pictures and shit that pertains to 240's.
I'm not trying to be too much of a douche, but you really make the simplest of shit soooo difficult.
Thanks for the tip but I have been Googling shit. Sometimes people can't find the answers. That's why forums exist. And you are coming off kinda douchy. It's OK. I won't lose sleep on it

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[kruked]

If you can't find out the difference between a SOHC & DOHC cluster by Googling pictures, then you have no interest in helping yourself.

Christ dude, there is 10's of thousands of pictures and there are countless of threads talking about it.