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alex_s817
06-09-2015, 01:23 PM
Currently building an AC condenser and line setup for this Rb26 swapped s14. While building one setup is definitely easier than a production version, I was thinking about designing a kit that fits with most swaps (compressor on Driver's side) (s13 chassis as well), with the exception of swapping out the compressor lines. The system will come with a new condenser/drier, and all new lines/hoses/high press. fitting. The main concern is obviously factory-level or colder AC temps, but right behind that is cleanliness. I wouldn't run some ugly bs in my engine bay and I wouldnt expect anyone else to either. Can't really talk pricing yet because I am not a vendor and the kit is not yet complete, but its not going to be outrageous. Just wanted to see if anyone out there is intrigued, this kit is being built for the car in the photos regardless.

thanks guys

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/B862F1C0-E27A-46E2-9F18-CBCD43E36EE6_zps6axznbsj.jpg

max1008
06-09-2015, 01:54 PM
I know I am new..but have been trolling this site for a while. Just picked up an S14 RB25. I live in Florida and it has no AC, very interested in pricing for a kit.

Flyin_bryan
06-09-2015, 02:20 PM
I live in Oklahoma where AC Is a must. I did the SR swap with AC. Be nice to have more options with AC, for me it's the deciding factor, along with working gauges . Some who are doing clean swaps would be interested including me..

ben33327
06-09-2015, 02:39 PM
you def have me sold on the idea!

NISR20MO
06-09-2015, 02:54 PM
Bro I need to see this car in person, you should PM me. Everything is looking super dope. Unfortunately I myself expect to have no room for AC anymore because of how I routed the turbo setup/alternator placement on my cts-v accessory drive. Jealous.

alex_s817
06-09-2015, 03:54 PM
thank you for your input guys! I'm excited to get this one dialed in and will be posting completed pics/pricing info of course. NISR20MO this car belongs to a friend of mine, I am sure we can set something up for you to check it out. I also do completely custom AC setups so if AC is something you'd really like to have, I am sure we can make it happen. My truck has the condenser mounted in the bed behind the cab, and I build systems for Evos with forward facing turbos pretty often, all with awesome results. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/FE99F5AC-2F49-4FE3-946B-9F69F9B6308E_zpsup2vknbi.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/ECAC1_zpsrcjjbjle.jpg

Reddrum13
06-09-2015, 06:01 PM
I would be interested in this for sure. I have a 2jz S14 about to be on the streets soon. In for pricing and updates.

fd94
06-09-2015, 06:06 PM
I am very interested in this as well. Was actually talking about who I was gonna get to do my 1jz s14. Anything will be helpful.

redline racer510
06-09-2015, 06:52 PM
He'll yea you make a kit for rb25 and you got a customer

EnemyS15
06-09-2015, 07:36 PM
I NEED this kit!

JRex
06-09-2015, 09:08 PM
Definitely would be interested in one of thee for 1jz swapped s13

greenmachine300zxtt
06-09-2015, 10:28 PM
I have rb25 s14 in need of an AC...let me know I'll buy one...

alex_s817
06-09-2015, 10:43 PM
I would be interested in this for sure. I have a 2jz S14 about to be on the streets soon. In for pricing and updates.

the best part of this setup is that it will work with your JZ swap, all that changes is the line setup on the driver's side. When this kit is closer to completion, let me know if you're still interested and I'll come down to Georgia/hook you up on price if you let me mock up the system/build the compressor hoses on your car.

I am very interested in this as well. Was actually talking about who I was gonna get to do my 1jz s14. Anything will be helpful.

You need someone to do the swap or just the AC?


redline_racer510, EnemyS15, JRex, Greenmachine300zxtt thanks for your interest guys! please stay tuned, updates will be coming within a week.

For you guys with RB swaps, I am not familiar with all of the compressor options available to you although I do know that some guys use the OEM RB compressor that came with their swap, while others (this car in particular) use a J30 compressor. J30 is what I intend to push for mainly because it allows you to have a new unit for a relatively low cost at (advance/autozone/etc etc), however I do know that the compressor wiring will need to be changed. This car has a wiring specialties harness with the AC option wired in, but we will be switching it to power the J30 pump and I will supply the necessary information for others who need to do so.

Again thanks for the interest guys, I look forward to showing you all a bad ass kit in the next week or so.

Tempo
06-10-2015, 05:14 AM
I hope by the time the 2jz gets into my s14 you'd have production going and ill be ordering one of these kits from you :bigok:

civicej8
06-10-2015, 07:21 PM
I'm in as well!!!! Thank you!

laurentj23
06-10-2015, 07:28 PM
Sikky is the only company that I know that makes ac line for ls swap. If you make a kit and is cheaper than sikky, I'm sure a lot of us will be interested.

ProjNightshade
06-10-2015, 07:30 PM
I would definitely love to have AC again in my RB25 S14. Any chance of offering different shapes or sizes of condenser to allow mounting in different areas?

Very interested in more info.

jduke
06-10-2015, 07:41 PM
Very interested for my rb20.

1jz s14
06-10-2015, 07:57 PM
would definitely be interested !!! 1jz s14 here.

KAT-PWR
06-10-2015, 08:16 PM
Rumor has it....
If you do a ka-t swap you can have AC
....easily
:keke:

EnemyS15
06-10-2015, 09:23 PM
Trespasser! Get out of here with your Kit Ka-t nonsense. This is for people who like to complicate their lives with ridiculous swaps.

fd94
06-10-2015, 10:33 PM
Sorry didmt specify but yes I ment just for the ac kit. Something i NEED down here in Miami.

wiring specialties
06-11-2015, 10:22 AM
We have our RB/JZ/LS harnesses for both the S13 and S14 to have AC hook up on the harnesses too so if you need it we are more than happy to help out in those regards too

alex_s817
06-11-2015, 11:37 AM
its great to have so many of you guys interested, I'm sure we will be able to do a group buy of some sort.

We have our RB/JZ/LS harnesses for both the S13 and S14 to have AC hook up on the harnesses too so if you need it we are more than happy to help out in those regards too

awesome, thanks for the info! you guys do great work, love the harnesses


No worries fd94, I will keep you in the loop!

Ramonesfreak2010
06-11-2015, 11:56 AM
Would definitely be interested if you do this for a SR. I have a top mount turbo and all the bells and whistles, so I definitely don't want the OEM lines.

alex_s817
06-11-2015, 04:47 PM
Ramonesfreak2010 it's definitely doable and something I would be interested in. My desire for this kit is to be something that compliments an engine bay, rather than take away from the overall cleanliness like OEM lines do. Are you running a KA compressor or no AC at the moment?

Ramonesfreak2010
06-12-2015, 06:38 AM
Ramonesfreak2010 it's definitely doable and something I would be interested in. My desire for this kit is to be something that compliments an engine bay, rather than take away from the overall cleanliness like OEM lines do. Are you running a KA compressor or no AC at the moment?

The motor is out the car, but I would be running a KA compressor.

EJ8 944
06-12-2015, 07:58 AM
I'm in. RB w/ AC is basically something everyone needs.

Reddrum13
06-12-2015, 09:11 PM
Sounds good to me bud. Shoot me a PM for contact info.

the best part of this setup is that it will work with your JZ swap, all that changes is the line setup on the driver's side. When this kit is closer to completion, let me know if you're still interested and I'll come down to Georgia/hook you up on price if you let me mock up the system/build the compressor hoses on your car.



You need someone to do the swap or just the AC?


redline_racer510, EnemyS15, JRex, Greenmachine300zxtt thanks for your interest guys! please stay tuned, updates will be coming within a week.

For you guys with RB swaps, I am not familiar with all of the compressor options available to you although I do know that some guys use the OEM RB compressor that came with their swap, while others (this car in particular) use a J30 compressor. J30 is what I intend to push for mainly because it allows you to have a new unit for a relatively low cost at (advance/autozone/etc etc), however I do know that the compressor wiring will need to be changed. This car has a wiring specialties harness with the AC option wired in, but we will be switching it to power the J30 pump and I will supply the necessary information for others who need to do so.

Again thanks for the interest guys, I look forward to showing you all a bad ass kit in the next week or so.

alex_s817
06-13-2015, 12:56 PM
The motor is out the car, but I would be running a KA compressor.

Cool, shouldn't be an issue!

I'm in. RB w/ AC is basically something everyone needs.

I couldn't agree more!

Sounds good to me bud. Shoot me a PM for contact info.

thanks! PM Sent

I would definitely love to have AC again in my RB25 S14. Any chance of offering different shapes or sizes of condenser to allow mounting in different areas?

Very interested in more info.

Different condenser sizes are doable for sure. I'm attempting to make this particular kit with the most common specifications in mind to fit a broad range of swapped cars, however I would love to do a short and wide condenser that can be used with the rywire/chasebays tucked radiators. Once I have this version finished, its really only a matter of changing hose lengths/condenser mounting brackets to make something work for you. If you have an idea in mind, throw it at me and lets see what we can make happen. Even if I can't make a kit for you, I can certainly help you out and point you in the right direction to get those vents blowing cold air again.

Sikky is the only company that I know that makes ac line for ls swap. If you make a kit and is cheaper than sikky, I'm sure a lot of us will be interested.

I saw their lines not too long ago. They have good stuff and part of the reason for their high price is the likely because of the billet adapter fittings that they include, unfortunately those are not cheap to machine. Using a new condenser allows us to avoid the need for most of those, plus I cant stand the idea of using the 20 year old condenser configuration when everything else in the engine bay has been re-done. I 100% intend to offer an LSx compatible version with a new condenser/drier included, but for those not looking to change from the stock condenser, the Sikky kit is a nice option.

alex_s817
06-13-2015, 12:59 PM
Out of curiosity, what radiator/cooling setup are most of you guys running? I'm trying to get an idea of condenser placement as I know some people opt to cut the upper rad support a little bit to help with fan motor clearance. Pics of rads/fan setups are welcome!

usrocket
06-13-2015, 02:09 PM
I have an S13 with an RB26. Need AC like a mofo. All I have is a 25 conpressor.

dbeiler
06-13-2015, 04:41 PM
My RB25 fan/condenser/radiator setup.

Flex-a-lite 432 (dual 12" pushers) trimmed to fit perfectly inside the radiator support. Koyo radiator and stock zenki condenser are mounted on the original brackets. All I need are lengthened lines with the correct fittings to hook up to the RB25 compressor.

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae27/davidibeiler/DSC01164_zpshzkjuypm.jpg (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/davidibeiler/media/DSC01164_zpshzkjuypm.jpg.html)

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae27/davidibeiler/DSC01162_zpskktdcsfq.jpg (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/davidibeiler/media/DSC01162_zpskktdcsfq.jpg.html)

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae27/davidibeiler/DSC01159_zpsbjwnhgdq.jpg (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/davidibeiler/media/DSC01159_zpsbjwnhgdq.jpg.html)

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae27/davidibeiler/DSC01141_zpssmxjbp05.jpg (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/davidibeiler/media/DSC01141_zpssmxjbp05.jpg.html)

redline racer510
06-13-2015, 05:14 PM
Rb with ac

alex_s817
06-13-2015, 07:36 PM
looks like a clean setup dbeiler! I'm sure any AC shop can help you with the lines, just use some aluminum weld on crimp ends with the oem fittings. You have any issues with the car running hot at higher speeds from that shroud?

laurentj23
06-14-2015, 06:23 PM
most the ls swap use mishimoto ka rad. only a fews are using chase bay

alex_s817
06-18-2015, 06:19 PM
Had some scheduling issues that slowed me down, please stay tuned for completed pics next week! Until then here's a close up of the hydro dip work my buddy Spencer did last year for this car.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/9FA35814-887F-4310-AFD6-1596B4312737_zpsm2pwbxuv.jpg

l adam l
06-18-2015, 06:35 PM
^ thats... So clean. Can't wait to get mine there.

alex_s817
06-23-2015, 11:34 PM
completed pics will be up tomorrow!

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/975678A3-B4A9-4EBE-BE10-5518B846D47F_zpse3doybqu.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/F51B4532-F4DC-4114-96E9-5EC1D14839ED_zps18ybsbx0.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/F8708A8E-FA11-4E5F-A8E2-E2A2F6E762F2_zpsklr45tcg.jpg

fd94
06-23-2015, 11:35 PM
Awesome


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EnemyS15
06-24-2015, 09:51 PM
I am very excited for this!!!!! Having rhd converted car and sourcing jdm ac condenser is a pain in the ass.

usrocket
06-24-2015, 09:53 PM
I've been following the updates and it is safe to say that you have a customer ready. I'm using an RB25 Compressor on an RB26 so it'll be interesting to see how this will work. It's just an AC conpressor, so fitting are the only issue. However, I'll keep the thread updated and see how it works. If I'm correct, the compressors for the RB engines are different from the R32 to the R33-34?

alex_s817
06-24-2015, 10:35 PM
I am very excited for this!!!!! Having rhd converted car and sourcing jdm ac condenser is a pain in the ass.
I'd imagine you can literally just flip these hoses to the other side and everything will work the same, just need to figure out the compressor fittings.

I've been following the updates and it is safe to say that you have a customer ready. I'm using an RB25 Compressor on an RB26 so it'll be interesting to see how this will work. It's just an AC conpressor, so fitting are the only issue. However, I'll keep the thread updated and see how it works. If I'm correct, the compressors for the RB engines are different from the R32 to the R33-34?
thanks for keeping up with the thread! I have heard that the R32 compressors are different, however I've never seen any of them in person for comparison. If we can get our hands on any of them, there's a good chance I'll be able to cross-reference the fittings with a US compressor fitting of some sort.

alex_s817
06-24-2015, 10:56 PM
Shot some completed kit photos as well as some installed pics today. I know everyone is waiting on pricing, please give me another day or so to get it all figured out. This kit was built on the fly and while keeping costs low was a priority, quality prevailed in a few instances and I haven't crunched the numbers just yet.

Disclaimer: Mounting brackets pictured are "prototypes." They have multiple holes, aren't cut perfectly, and were solely used for mock-up. Production brackets will be water jetted. Thanks!

Details:
-I was able to source a housing with the correct threads so that you may use your OEM Nissan AC pressure switch with no need for modified wiring.

-I made adapter fittings at the evaporator (firewall connections) so that while the chassis may change, (s13, zenki, kouki) the hoses on the passenger side stay the same. (have yet to measure s13 to clarify this)

-Same goes for the compressor fittings, they have standard AC o-ring fittings welded to them now. In the event of a compressor swap, there's a chance the lines wont have to be replaced, just the fittings themselves.

-Kit was designed with specifically RB and JZ swaps in mind, allowing them to be the exact same up to the hoses on the Driver's side. Lengths and fittings on the driver's side hoses are subject to change based on drive train and compressor choice. This is also beneficial when adding the service ports to the hoses. RB exhaust manifolds and waste gates are generally too close to the compressor for us to run the high/low charge ports there and will likely result in melted caps and leaky valves. I located them near the firewall for this reason, however on a JZ swap, especially those running 4" down pipes, I'll feel much better knowing the charge ports are far far away at the compressor.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/condenser3_zpsqcs1ifqk.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/hardware1_zpsdly3b4s8.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/linesgroup_zps3srr1yzp.jpg

alex_s817
06-24-2015, 11:23 PM
Modified Evaporator Fittings:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/B36F4DA8-D7F9-4066-B461-CCB18176CE46_zpsmjre2ryr.jpg

Pass side hose routing:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/4FAD637A-8F12-4043-8F75-B4BC9BD09713_zpsx0xdqk0a.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/29C42391-612A-4C3A-BC1A-CEEA9825ADA9_zps0bwmoz9u.jpg

Modified J30 Compressor Fittings:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/CF79F267-A3F1-47EE-A741-153E6673D56F_zpsswawmf3g.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/F9FF7A81-F463-4772-9AB5-D24B62D4027E_zpsedybhdzi.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/4ACC5822-9268-4FDD-B3CB-C1E7E171A2A1_zpsp4tusqqg.jpg


Driver's side hose routing:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/0AB0A172-A93A-47E2-B695-F7973145DBDF_zpstcbetcpa.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/E9CA795F-FC7F-442F-99FB-DDE3E1734DEC_zpsldbgs5mq.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/96CB7C91-47BC-4E92-9A2F-40073A56A5B0_zpshy9c3e5x.jpg

Front Crossover Hardline:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/1B0DCFD8-5DC0-4270-B3E9-FD80DD1D6979_zpsctz7bluc.jpg

High press hose routing (under condenser, in front of radiator, connects at lower driver's side fitting, routes to firewall)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/alex_s817/8%20Year%20Project/0E4CC676-0ABF-4AB6-B90A-026BD28F60E6_zpslyholngw.jpg

Mr.slipngrip
06-25-2015, 08:31 AM
Wow nice work count me in for a rb setup.

ProjNightshade
06-25-2015, 04:31 PM
It really looks great.

My only hangup about the system is having the fans still blowing through the condenser. Is there any way you could move the condenser further forward to allow the pusher fans to be mounted directly to the radiator?

projects14zenki
06-25-2015, 05:43 PM
Well I'm sold I'm in for price and eta on the kits

max1008
06-26-2015, 12:46 PM
Kit looks sweet. I really do like the idea of using the J30 condenser instead of the rb25. I have the rb25 condenser and mounting brackets. I have the wire specialist wire harness but not sure if it was equipped with AC (bought the car with the RB25 already installed.

So is this with the J30 condenser or Rb25?

alexisonfire
06-26-2015, 02:44 PM
Totally interested in buying this also for my rb

MrFairlady
06-27-2015, 12:40 PM
Word!!! I'm In....though Mine could be somewhat simple?
You live in Raleigh too. Sweetness!

Z32 w/ RB25:
I'll prob have to ditch the NA low side pipe and swap to the TT line (due to route location is diff) or just make a New one but Should be Very close to the Skyline setup.Gotta Have A/C!

I will Be hitting you up at some point for sure.

Sub'd

Sforteen
06-27-2015, 02:04 PM
R32 compressors are longer, and will not fit with FUll Race manifolds and likely others as well.

R33 compressors are at least an inch shorter, and will fit with Full Race manifold.

97-98 S14 koukis have a variable AC compressor and do not have a temp switch in the evaporator to cycle compressor, It will freeze up on you if you put in a normal AC compressor.

I have AC in my car and my car runs hot with it on, i still have stock radiator and RB clutch fan. I would like a condenser that fits on the other side of core support so u can run a thick Dual pass radiator and a good shrouded electric fan setup..

alex_s817
06-27-2015, 05:23 PM
UPDATE: System vacuumed down and held vaccuum no problem, however the car is currently having an ignition issue and will not start so I have yet to charge it with refrigerant. Before I post any sales info I need to be able to provide you guys with pressure readings and vent temperatures. Sorry for the delay, something like this always happens, but as with most swapped cars and modifications go, I know you all already know that haha.

Wow nice work count me in for a rb setup.

I appreciate it! will keep you posted!

It really looks great.

My only hangup about the system is having the fans still blowing through the condenser. Is there any way you could move the condenser further forward to allow the pusher fans to be mounted directly to the radiator?

In most factory configurations, the fans/condenser placement is set up like this. The condenser needs airflow too if there's any hope of having cool air coming through the vents at idle (traffic, stop lights, etc). I understand your concern, especially because we all know that these engines tend to run hotter than others. I will log the coolant temps once I get this car charged so I can give you guys an idea of what to expect. Ideally, I would love to do a tucked radiator/AC condenser combo that tucks up under the rad support and allows users to run a large fan/shroud setup. The only issue with this is cost because custom radiators are pretty pricey to have built.

Well I'm sold I'm in for price and eta on the kits

Glad you like it! Pricing will be up within 2 days, still working to get it as low as I can. Thank you

Kit looks sweet. I really do like the idea of using the J30 condenser instead of the rb25. I have the rb25 condenser and mounting brackets. I have the wire specialist wire harness but not sure if it was equipped with AC (bought the car with the RB25 already installed.

So is this with the J30 condenser or Rb25?

thank you! Are you meaning to say "compressor"? this is with a J30 compressor, custom condenser/bracket. As for the wiring, I am not sure. There are a few potential wiring configurations from all the different swap harnesses and I am unfamiliar with that so I cant really give you a definite answer, however I know the guys at wiring specialties can help you out if you give them a call.

Totally interested in buying this also for my rb

Thanks for your interest, please stay tuned for updates soon.

Word!!! I'm In....though Mine could be somewhat simple?
You live in Raleigh too. Sweetness!

Z32 w/ RB25:
I'll prob have to ditch the NA low side pipe and swap to the TT line (due to route location is diff) or just make a New one but Should be Very close to the Skyline setup.Gotta Have A/C!

I will Be hitting you up at some point for sure.

Sub'd

Yes sir sure do! I'm in Garner, about 20 min from DTR. Shoot me a PM and we can get something squared away for you no problem! I dont have an issue with building one off hose/line set-ups given I have access to the car, its actually so much easier than a production version haha.

R32 compressors are longer, and will not fit with FUll Race manifolds and likely others as well.

R33 compressors are at least an inch shorter, and will fit with Full Race manifold.

97-98 S14 koukis have a variable AC compressor and do not have a temp switch in the evaporator to cycle compressor, It will freeze up on you if you put in a normal AC compressor.

I have AC in my car and my car runs hot with it on, i still have stock radiator and RB clutch fan. I would like a condenser that fits on the other side of core support so u can run a thick Dual pass radiator and a good shrouded electric fan setup..

Thanks for the info! I have been reading about the koukis and that potential issue. Either an evaporator swap from a 95-96, or a modified compressor bracket to use the KA compressor on an RB could be a thing. Haven't checked into that yet.

fd94
06-27-2015, 05:32 PM
As long as there's a solution everything will be good


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Sforteen
06-27-2015, 08:24 PM
I just installed the Evap temp switch in my Evaporator and had it control the ground side of the compressor clutch relay.

I used a temp sender from a honda cause i had it laying around, but from the looks a factory Nissan one from a Zenki should work fine, it just sits in the fins of the Evap coil.

How long are you letting it sit in a vacuum? Tig welding those damn fittings is tricky, there so damn dirty!! i have a small leak somewhere on my car just havent had the time to mess with it, i tig welded my setup as well.

what Turbo manifold is that guy using and how much clearance is there with the J30 compressor.

alex_s817
06-27-2015, 09:13 PM
I just installed the Evap temp switch in my Evaporator and had it control the ground side of the compressor clutch relay.

I used a temp sender from a honda cause i had it laying around, but from the looks a factory Nissan one from a Zenki should work fine, it just sits in the fins of the Evap coil.

How long are you letting it sit in a vacuum? Tig welding those damn fittings is tricky, there so damn dirty!! i have a small leak somewhere on my car just havent had the time to mess with it, i tig welded my setup as well.

what Turbo manifold is that guy using and how much clearance is there with the J30 compressor.

oh okay cool, not too difficult then. Sat in vacuum for an hour.

The fabricator who does the fittings is no joke, plus a good bit of scotch brite and acetone prep goes a long way for sure.

turbo kit is from Raw Brokerage, twin gates fit fine, it's a little tight but could be tighter and still work. I had to turn the dump tube a few degrees but that was it.

max1008
07-01-2015, 08:57 AM
Yes I meant J30 Compressor...Can't wait to see the pricing...I'm dying out here in this Florida Heat :) Thanks for all your hard work and fabricating!

alex_s817
07-01-2015, 06:40 PM
Yes I meant J30 Compressor...Can't wait to see the pricing...I'm dying out here in this Florida Heat :) Thanks for all your hard work and fabricating!

I appreciate the kind words! What cooling setup are you running right now and what kind of temps do you see? Just curious as the owner of this blue s14 is looking to upgrade.

alex_s817
07-01-2015, 06:40 PM
So for what everyone is waiting for, PRICING.
The kit is going to be priced at $599 shipped. Now I know everyone was really hoping to keep it under $500, and that was my main goal as well. However I just cannot afford to make them that cheap at this time.

Now what I would love to do is a group buy with pricing at $499 + shipping with a minimum of 10 buyers. The larger quantity of buyers allows me to cut both water jetting and welding costs. If anyone is interested in doing so please let me know. As you already know, these kits are going to be shipped with all the necessary hardware, condenser, o-rings, hoses, fittings, and mounting brackets. After it's installed just run the car up to your local AC guy and have him vacuum it down and charge it up.

max1008
07-01-2015, 06:51 PM
I am currently not running anything. Past owner ripped everything out except behind the dash...so it will be a complete fresh build.

max1008
07-01-2015, 07:04 PM
So We will need to just buy the j30 compressor right?

max1008
07-01-2015, 07:07 PM
But count me in for the buy.

alex_s817
07-01-2015, 07:23 PM
Glad you're in, thank you!

yes sir j30 compressor. I dont have a problem doing hoses for a different compressor but I currently only have hoses/fittings for the j30 configuration.

I am also looking into doing a tucked rad/condenser combo so that you can run a shroud + 2 fans in puller configuration, however I'm not sure if things are going to get too expensive at that point. Calling my radiator place tomorrow to see what they can come up with.

max1008
07-01-2015, 07:36 PM
Yes I would interested in seeing the price difference in that. Been looking at the cheesebay ones and if I can kill two birds with one stone that would be great

alexisonfire
07-02-2015, 12:51 PM
Any idea when the group buy would start? If you need cooling specs also I can pm you

Sugarmomma_money
07-04-2015, 11:38 AM
I'd be interested in a/c for an sr20 if I could get it for a good price.


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whatbrokethistime
07-05-2015, 12:19 AM
Excellent work, count me in for AC.

R34 NEO swapped s14 from Raleigh :) built in 06

greenmachine300zxtt
07-05-2015, 12:38 AM
Count me for the group buy...I need a/c bad!!

alex_s817
07-05-2015, 01:46 PM
Yes I would interested in seeing the price difference in that. Been looking at the cheesebay ones and if I can kill two birds with one stone that would be great

Should have something in the next week or two. I'd love to be able to offer a radiator that doesn't require any cutting of the support, but it's unlikely given the size limitations that come with that. I've got a few things in the works as well as some custom order options that I am waiting on quotes for. Will be posting updates here as soon as I know something.

Any idea when the group buy would start? If you need cooling specs also I can pm you

I'd like to start it as soon as I can. I have made a list of everyone who has showed interest, along with as much info on each car that I could. Just need 10 people total for the first group buy, we have 3 confirmed right now.

Excellent work, count me in for AC.

R34 NEO swapped s14 from Raleigh :) built in 06

awesome, thanks! sounds like a good reliable set up!

Count me for the group buy...I need a/c bad!!

got you down! thanks!



Here is a rough list of everyone who has shown interest in the kit. I've tried to include all the info pertaining to each car. The only kit I can make quickly right now is the 95-96 s14/j30 compressor combo. If anyone is able to confirm that the s13 engine bay dimensions are the same, then we are good to go for s13/j30 setups as well. I do not have a problem doing other setups and including them in the group buy for better pricing, however I will not be able to build your exact kit as fast and will need help from you to finish your hoses. Anyone I've missed please just let me know, I've tried to include all of you who PM'd me as well.

I intend to build these kits as fast as possible as I know its not getting any cooler out there. Looking at a two week ship time MAX, clock starts ticking the day you order. Thank you all for your interest.

Group Buy:
alexisonfire
whatbrokethistime (rb26 s14)
greenmachine300zxtt (rb25 s14)
fd94 (1jz s14)

Potentially Interested:
projects14zenki
Mr.Slipngrip
usrocket (rb26 s13 w/rb25 compressor)
reddrum13 (2jz s14)
redline_racer510 (rb25)
EnemyS15
JRex(1jz S13)
civicEJ8
ProJNightshade (rb25 s14)
jduke (rb20)
1jz_s14 (1jz s14)
Ramonesfreak2010 (sr20 w/ka compressor)
EJ8_944 (rb)
owinbush (rb20)
SugarMomma_money(sr20)
PeaceOnesxWai (s13 ka)

Waiting for potential tucked radiator option:
max1008
MR_GUTTI (rb25 s13 + chasebays rad)

fd94
07-05-2015, 06:31 PM
Count me in forsure


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MR_GUTTI
07-05-2015, 09:12 PM
I'm interested in the tucked option. I have a s13 Rb25det neo w/chasebays radiator

ZenkiDeven19
07-05-2015, 11:46 PM
So wait what's the difference in say an 97 s14 setup?

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PeaceOnesxWai
07-06-2015, 01:02 AM
Ive always wanted to do a custom AC hose/condenser set up. Your set up turned out great.

If you do a S13 w/ KA compressor lines id be interested in the group buy.

alex_s817
07-06-2015, 08:40 AM
Count me in forsure


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switched you over on the list, thank you!


I'm interested in the tucked option. I have a s13 Rb25det neo w/chasebays radiator

got you down on the list. I am considering bolting the condenser to the rad with some threaded weld-on alum blocks, could definitely do something different with yours though. Are you running the newer 14" tall rad that they offer? If so, I'd love to see some fitment pictures of it. Thanks!

So wait what's the difference in say an 97 s14 setup?

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The fittings at the firewall are slightly different (no big deal, just havent made adapter fittings yet since I dont have a 97 to work with at this time). They measure the temp differently and are using a different compressor as well. If you bolt on a 95 compressor, it will not cycle properly without making some modifications.

Ive always wanted to do a custom AC hose/condenser set up. Your set up turned out great.

If you do a S13 w/ KA compressor lines id be interested in the group buy.

thanks a lot! Given all the interest I've had, s13 with KA hoses looks like it will definitely be a thing. Ill update as soon as I know for sure.

whatbrokethistime
07-06-2015, 10:09 AM
Will the J30 bolt up to an RB25/RB26 compressor bracket? My NEO is an r34 RB25. Running a griffin radiator And dual pushers which i probably have to mount to the condenser now right? Will blow through both.

Also, does this come with a smaller receiver / drier? Do the lines run from the compressor through the front hardline and through condenser and out the passenger frame rail up to the firewall?

My interior is completely gutted so I'll probably end up doing some 90 degree fittings inside the firewall and making something custom.

PeaceOnesxWai
07-06-2015, 01:52 PM
thanks a lot! Given all the interest I've had, s13 with KA hoses looks like it will definitely be a thing. Ill update as soon as I know for sure.

Ill be interested in just the condenser and drier set up if you get it to fit S13 oem location.

alex_s817
07-07-2015, 10:41 AM
Will the J30 bolt up to an RB25/RB26 compressor bracket? My NEO is an r34 RB25. Running a griffin radiator And dual pushers which i probably have to mount to the condenser now right? Will blow through both.

Also, does this come with a smaller receiver / drier? Do the lines run from the compressor through the front hardline and through condenser and out the passenger frame rail up to the firewall?

My interior is completely gutted so I'll probably end up doing some 90 degree fittings inside the firewall and making something custom.

Yes sir J30 compressor bolts to RB bracket. Which Griffin rad are you running? Yes fans would have to mount to the front of the condenser and/or the back of the rad. I know that with a stock upper rad support there's no room to run two fans on the back of the rad which is why I am trying to get a tucked rad/condenser combo setup happening ASAP.

The drier is integrated into the condenser, which is honestly one of my favorite features of the kit. It was much harder to make the mounting brackets but the cleanliness of an integrated drier was worth it for sure. The high pressure line runs out of the condenser and 180s to run underneath it. it then pairs with the other low press hose and they route together along the pass side frame rail. I did it this way rather than behind the engine because I wanted it to be as clean and undetectable as it could be, meanwhile still allowing for as many turbo kit options as possible (given the compressor space is there)

Regarding your interior, there are a few options out there if you are looking to run an aftermarket evaporator/heater core unit. Vintage Air out of Arizona has some really cool stuff, and although it's pricey, it allows you to save a ton of space under the dash. I am running one in my turbo truck build and with the different options for hose routing, you won't be able to see any lines in my engine bay, aside from the compressor where they need to hook up. Of course if you were to run one of these setups, the hoses included in my kit wouldnt need to have the OEM fitting adapters.

alex_s817
07-07-2015, 10:44 AM
Ill be interested in just the condenser and drier set up if you get it to fit S13 oem location.

Fortunately I was lucky enough to pick up and entire s13 front core support from a friend last week, so testing for fitment wont be an issue! Waiting on the new condenser brackets from the water jet place and I can verify for sure that everything fits up.

jduke
07-07-2015, 07:27 PM
Well I'm definitely in for an s13 rb20 using a j30 compressor kit.

MR_GUTTI
07-07-2015, 09:05 PM
I'm interested in the tucked option. I have a s13 Rb25det neo w/chasebays radiator
I have the old version 24"x10"x3". Two of the 3"sits under the core support so I have an inch toward the engine. I'm using the stock clutch fan. Contact me if you have any questions. Thanks!

whatbrokethistime
07-07-2015, 09:17 PM
Yes sir J30 compressor bolts to RB bracket. Which Griffin rad are you running? Yes fans would have to mount to the front of the condenser and/or the back of the rad. I know that with a stock upper rad support there's no room to run two fans on the back of the rad which is why I am trying to get a tucked rad/condenser combo setup happening ASAP.

The drier is integrated into the condenser, which is honestly one of my favorite features of the kit. It was much harder to make the mounting brackets but the cleanliness of an integrated drier was worth it for sure. The high pressure line runs out of the condenser and 180s to run underneath it. it then pairs with the other low press hose and they route together along the pass side frame rail. I did it this way rather than behind the engine because I wanted it to be as clean and undetectable as it could be, meanwhile still allowing for as many turbo kit options as possible (given the compressor space is there)

Regarding your interior, there are a few options out there if you are looking to run an aftermarket evaporator/heater core unit. Vintage Air out of Arizona has some really cool stuff, and although it's pricey, it allows you to save a ton of space under the dash. I am running one in my turbo truck build and with the different options for hose routing, you won't be able to see any lines in my engine bay, aside from the compressor where they need to hook up. Of course if you were to run one of these setups, the hoses included in my kit wouldnt need to have the OEM fitting adapters.


Awesome, thanks for the explanation. I am using the dual 12" flex - a -lites as pushers. I could do that vintage air kit and it would be kick ass. My dash is gutted and I'm running a switch panel. I can run that unit in place of my glove box.

max1008
07-10-2015, 12:46 PM
Regardless tucked or not radiator I am in on this deal. Please add me to the list. RB25 S14

whatbrokethistime
07-11-2015, 09:53 AM
Hey guys, take a look at this and let me know what you think. My car is gutted behind the dash so I'm looking at an option for AC only.

This universal evaporator would work with some 2.5" flex hoses to my vents.

Question is, are all the AC hoses a standard size? I could get the lines in this kit made a little longer and mate it right to this unit. 853328533385334853358533685337

alex_s817
07-11-2015, 11:58 AM
Well I'm definitely in for an s13 rb20 using a j30 compressor kit.

Happy to hear it! Still waiting to hear from the radiator place, hopefully have everything figured out early next week guys. Thank you all for your patience.

I have the old version 24"x10"x3". Two of the 3"sits under the core support so I have an inch toward the engine. I'm using the stock clutch fan. Contact me if you have any questions. Thanks!

how do you like that rad? What kind of operating temps are you seeing during the hotter months? thanks!

Regardless tucked or not radiator I am in on this deal. Please add me to the list. RB25 S14

got you added, should have tucked rad info in the next few days, trying to rush this along as quick as I can, sorry for the wait.


Hey guys, take a look at this and let me know what you think. My car is gutted behind the dash so I'm looking at an option for AC only.

This universal evaporator would work with some 2.5" flex hoses to my vents.

Question is, are all the AC hoses a standard size? I could get the lines in this kit made a little longer and mate it right to this unit. 853328533385334853358533685337

Yeah i mean that could certainly work. I worry a little about the cheaper units because if they were to develop a leak on the inside and blow refrigerant everywhere it wouldnt be fun, but it may be worth a shot. As far as connecting the lines straight to it, you could do that and I could use the correct fittings on there for a bolt up connection. Just need figure the evaporator location because if the hoses are running straight through the firewall, they really need a bulkhead to allow them to pass through in order to keep the firewall sealed and the hoses from being cut.

whatbrokethistime
07-11-2015, 12:35 PM
Awesome, I'll have to do a bulkhead then. Thanks for the input

Sforteen
07-12-2015, 12:53 AM
I'd like to see this tucked radiator setup.. in for updates.

whatbrokethistime
07-14-2015, 11:06 PM
Any updates on the build of this kit?

porschekilla
07-21-2015, 10:36 PM
Got me interested. I want you to work on my car sr20det needs a/c. S1385626

whatbrokethistime
07-21-2015, 11:02 PM
Got me interested. I want you to work on my car sr20det needs a/c. S1385626


This thread is for swapped cars listed above, SR in a 240 can be done with factory parts, no swap kit is really needed

porschekilla
07-21-2015, 11:03 PM
Like his work want a custom setup

alex_s817
07-22-2015, 08:29 AM
I'd like to see this tucked radiator setup.. in for updates.

Just got off the phone with my radiator guy today, should be ordering the first test rad here in a couple hours.

Any updates on the build of this kit?

still working on the rad option, however the standard fitment kit is done and available for stock rad/j30 compressor

Got me interested. I want you to work on my car sr20det needs a/c. S1385626

I appreciate it, however I do not currently have access to an s13 sr20 car. The kit will fit right up, but the driver's side hoses with change for whichever compressor you'll be running (ka/sr)

alex_s817
07-23-2015, 12:11 PM
UPDATE:
Radiator should be here early next week. Now its a prototype so there's always a chance its going to overheat or need to be changed slightly, but myself and the builders have confidence it will work well. To give you guys some preliminary information on it, its 23" wide, 13" tall, horizontal flow, dual pass, dual core, utilizing 1" tubes in each row. With these dimensions, you should not have to cut your core support at all, be able to run two 11" fans on a shroud (we have a 2800 cfm pair of puller fans on the way), and the AC hoses will still have the clearance needed to route on each side of the rad. This same supplier runs a very similar setup on a 900hp big block car without any overheating issues. That being said, they arent running AC, nor do they have a large intercooler core blocking most of the airflow. So it'll be interesting, but I am siked to see what the added space between the rad and the pulleys does for extracting heat, as well as running two quality fans with a proper shroud design.

All of this is being done because we were seeing freeway cruising temps in the 199-203 range with the condenser installed/AC off. While some may argue this is fine, the tubular topmount/twin gate setup on this car obviously radiates more heat that some other set-ups out there and I cant blame him for wanting to bring the temps down as much as possible. Now his initial cooling set-up was an Ebay rad, no shroud, and two ebay 12" fans that probably didnt move more than 900 cfm combined, so this doesn't particularly mean that your cars will run hot just from putting the condenser in there.

Radiator Pricing: Trying to keep this competitive, prob around $400 + shipping. My biggest reason for wanting to avoid radiators initially was the cost. Custom rads are never cheap, especially in made-to-order, smaller volume quantities. I've done business with the current supplier in the past and they give me what I think is a fair price, no doubt about it. My desire to offer radiators isn't to profit from them but rather to be able to guarantee a good, solid option that will work with my AC kits. After I get the Rad, add the mounting brackets, add the condenser mounting tabs, and build a fan shroud, I'll be in it over $400 myself. But with larger orders I may be able to get this cost down, which I can then pass on to everyone. But like I said, this is all speculative as I have yet to install and test this Radiator.

I appreciate everyone taking the time to read this and for your patience as I work to get this setup as dialed in as I can before shipping out a bunch of kits. I dont want you guys overheating, but I really dont want your cars overheating haha

alex_s817
08-06-2015, 03:53 PM
Radiator is here. condenser is mounted and ready to go. Waiting on materials for the fan shroud, should have this thing installed this weekend. Really happy with how it turned out, fingers crossed it cools as well as it looks.

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Sitting in my truck just for the hell of it. This could be a good "universal fit" combo
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EJ8 944
08-07-2015, 10:07 AM
When would the group buy be taking place?

alex_s817
08-07-2015, 04:25 PM
When would the group buy be taking place?

I'm trying to get it going as soon as possible. Are you interested in a standard or tucked setup? As soon as I have some results from this tucked combo, Ill publish them here and can get things underway.

EddyM3
08-07-2015, 04:59 PM
definitely interested in a kit for a 1jz vvti 1991 s13, would you make lines only or must it be the full kit?

Stein180sx
08-10-2015, 07:44 AM
I'm interested in the condenser/dryer kit for a koyo radiator pushed forward if at all possible.

alex_s817
08-13-2015, 05:08 AM
definitely interested in a kit for a 1jz vvti 1991 s13, would you make lines only or must it be the full kit?
I dont have a problem with just doing lines, currently do not have access to a 1j s13 though. Where are you located?

I'm interested in the condenser/dryer kit for a koyo radiator pushed forward if at all possible.
pushed forward meaning cut upper core support?

Ramonesfreak2010
08-13-2015, 03:08 PM
Interested for SR20.

EJ8 944
08-13-2015, 04:29 PM
I'm trying to get it going as soon as possible. Are you interested in a standard or tucked setup? As soon as I have some results from this tucked combo, Ill publish them here and can get things underway.

I'm not even sure which one, tbh

Stein180sx
08-14-2015, 03:41 PM
pushed forward meaning cut upper core support?


Yeah, sorry my core support is cut and moved back rather. I am running a Taurus fan on the engine side now instead of two 12" spal pushers. Thanks.

EddyM3
08-14-2015, 11:18 PM
I dont have a problem with just doing lines, currently do not have access to a 1j s13 though. Where are you located?


located in miami florida

alex_s817
08-19-2015, 10:15 AM
I'm not even sure which one, tbh

Posting new info on the tucked rad below this post. thanks

Yeah, sorry my core support is cut and moved back rather. I am running a Taurus fan on the engine side now instead of two 12" spal pushers. Thanks.

the condenser sits fairly far forward, there's a good chance it will fit with the Rad tipped in a bit.

located in miami florida

ahh dang I wish we were closer to each other.

alex_s817
08-19-2015, 10:31 AM
Tucked rad is in and working great so far. With the haltech kicking on the fan at 165, we can't even get the car to run hot enough. It's locked so while waiting on the password to change the fan temp we can't do a whole lot, however with the exact same fan temp/ambient temp/etc, we haven't seen the water temp go over 173 while sitting still and hitting anti-lag. With the other radiator and fans, we never saw anything below 192. Now it's apparent that the old radiator was clearly not up to par, but we knew that already. It was about 85 degrees yesterday (same temp when we were seeing 192 w/old rad) but obviously thats not hot enough to do any real testing. Next week is supposed to be in the 90s and hopefully we can push the car a little harder. All of this is with the AC condenser mounted stacked in front of the rad, but without the compressor operational. (have to build slightly longer hoses for new condenser placement) FYI: car is running a Nismo 165 degree t-stat

-derale 13" fan (flows 2150 cfm in puller config. and wired on a 60 amp relay)
-custom shroud sealed to radiator
-23" x 13" x 3" dual pass radiator
-AC Condenser w/integrated drier mounted to the front of the rad
- Prestone 50/50 antifreeze coolant mix, NO water wetter at this time.

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AWD260R
08-19-2015, 01:27 PM
This is good, I have/had AC in my RB26DETT swapped S14 using the oem R32 AC compressor. I used the S14 low pressure hose and welded into the R32 hose fitting, The high pressure line worked like oem BUT!!! now I've changed to a EFR turbo with the new Full Race manifold IWP and I am back to sqaure one. The R32 AC compressor is to long and hits the manifold runner with out the hose, so I was forced to get a R34 AC compressor which is shorter (less deep) and now I have to change both the low/high hose's because the R32 fittings don't mate to the R34 ones. I think my oem S14 fitting might of fit the R34 low side but have no clue as I have tossed that peice I cut off. I'd go this route if it would clear the new manifold because I wanted to get a new S14 condensor but no one has any:( I might have to flush it out but anyhow do you have the measurements of the fittings? my R34 AC compressor ID are as such:

Low Pressure side: 21.32mm or .839 inch
High Pressure side: 15.3mm or .602 inch

high pressure side at condensor: 12.58mm or .495 inch

If this kit would work I'd only need the condensor part but I'm curious to know if your modded fitting would clear on the LP side.
I've already moved my condensor and radiator about 2" forward if I recall correctly, ugh the things we do for creature comforts. :2f2f:

MR_GUTTI
08-19-2015, 11:34 PM
Excelente Job Alex! Please keep us posted

EddyM3
08-21-2015, 10:40 PM
i have a question, was wondering if you could help me out on how to get my compressor to turn on safely once if i had all components installed. may i pm you about this?? (1jz s13)

sterlinge
08-22-2015, 08:58 AM
This is cool. The real test is running the ac to see if the cooling system can handle the added heat. Here in Texas we have had quite a few 100+ degree days.

stricnynel0s
08-24-2015, 10:26 AM
I am def interested, I have a r32 gtr what some genius destroyed half of the ac setup, so I would def be interested in this, im actually debating doing a mechanical fan setup. I would need everything to do this.

noodl35
08-25-2015, 04:51 PM
I'm really interested in the whole radiator/condenser/drier setup for my s14/r33 rb26 configuration.

alex_s817
08-29-2015, 10:06 AM
Sorry for the lack of response guys. I do all of this stuff on the side and have been swamped with Evo ac stuff lately as well. I tried to answer everyone below, but for those who need the quick answer; the radiator is still installed and working great, but he's had other issues with the car (unrelated to AC/cooling), so we don't have the results of the system with the added load of the compressor yet. As soon as I do, I will post them here.

This is good, I have/had AC in my RB26DETT swapped S14 using the oem R32 AC compressor. I used the S14 low pressure hose and welded into the R32 hose fitting, The high pressure line worked like oem BUT!!! now I've changed to a EFR turbo with the new Full Race manifold IWP and I am back to sqaure one. The R32 AC compressor is to long and hits the manifold runner with out the hose, so I was forced to get a R34 AC compressor which is shorter (less deep) and now I have to change both the low/high hose's because the R32 fittings don't mate to the R34 ones. I think my oem S14 fitting might of fit the R34 low side but have no clue as I have tossed that peice I cut off. I'd go this route if it would clear the new manifold because I wanted to get a new S14 condensor but no one has any:( I might have to flush it out but anyhow do you have the measurements of the fittings? my R34 AC compressor ID are as such:

Low Pressure side: 21.32mm or .839 inch
High Pressure side: 15.3mm or .602 inch

high pressure side at condensor: 12.58mm or .495 inch

If this kit would work I'd only need the condensor part but I'm curious to know if your modded fitting would clear on the LP side.
I've already moved my condensor and radiator about 2" forward if I recall correctly, ugh the things we do for creature comforts. :2f2f:

I can get measurements for you, they are probably different but some models do cross over. How large is that compressor? What kind of manifold runner/wg (EFR internal gate?) clearance do you have for the fittings coming off the compressor? I've got both the "tucked radiator" condenser (slightly smaller in size) and the standard mount that you could use, just might need to modify the brackets that mount it.

Excelente Job Alex! Please keep us posted
Thank you! So far so good with daily use, but we still dont have AC working yet (customer has had some other setbacks with the car). I will update as soon as I have some data for you guys.

i have a question, was wondering if you could help me out on how to get my compressor to turn on safely once if i had all components installed. may i pm you about this?? (1jz s13)

Yeah man whatever you need, hit me up!

This is cool. The real test is running the ac to see if the cooling system can handle the added heat. Here in Texas we have had quite a few 100+ degree days.

I agree 100%. Still waiting on this, I know it's taking forever.

I am def interested, I have a r32 gtr what some genius destroyed half of the ac setup, so I would def be interested in this, im actually debating doing a mechanical fan setup. I would need everything to do this.

Tucked or standard mount? Would definitely want standard if planning to use a mechanical fan I would assume

I'm really interested in the whole radiator/condenser/drier setup for my s14/r33 rb26 configuration.

I am glad you like the kit! Which compressor do you have/intend to run?

noodl35
09-01-2015, 09:45 PM
I am glad you like the kit! Which compressor do you have/intend to run?

Well I have the stock r33 compressor but if your setup works with a j30, I can switch. My question is my wiring harness is wired for ac already. Will I have to rewire if I switch to j30?

AWD260R
09-02-2015, 10:22 AM
my current position of the condenser is the last 1" forward of the core support, if your condenser is about the same I should be able to make it work, as for my R34 AC pump I can post pictures of it when my photobucket stops giving me issues, I have the ones from Full Race website which shows how the AC pump sits near the IWG manifold (sorry my misspelled acronym from the first post), I'd need to move sooner than later on this hopefully after lunch I can get my photos to upload and post them.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/ernestonido/20140324_183557_zpsshhpfdem.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/ernestonido/media/20140324_183557_zpsshhpfdem.jpg.html)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/ernestonido/20140324_183549_zpszjhkcnd9.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/ernestonido/media/20140324_183549_zpszjhkcnd9.jpg.html)


Full Race pictures below R33/R34 AC pump, Spoke with them already and they state it shows the R33 AC pump hose's R34 AC hose's look different:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/ernestonido/nissan-rb26-25-20-det-t-twin-scroll-iwg-efr-turbo-manifold-content-14_zpsv1lm7l5z.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/ernestonido/media/nissan-rb26-25-20-det-t-twin-scroll-iwg-efr-turbo-manifold-content-14_zpsv1lm7l5z.jpg.html)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/ernestonido/nissan-rb26-25-20-det-t-twin-scroll-iwg-efr-turbo-manifold-content-15_zpscqnmhv0x.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/ernestonido/media/nissan-rb26-25-20-det-t-twin-scroll-iwg-efr-turbo-manifold-content-15_zpscqnmhv0x.jpg.html)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/ernestonido/nissan-rb26-25-20-det-t-twin-scroll-iwg-efr-turbo-manifold-content-18_zps8qvy1h9n.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/ernestonido/media/nissan-rb26-25-20-det-t-twin-scroll-iwg-efr-turbo-manifold-content-18_zps8qvy1h9n.jpg.html)

max1008
09-06-2015, 08:48 PM
I haven't posted in a while to this thread but I'm still interested. Don't care about tucked radiator, need condensor lines for j30 compressor and 240sx evaporator. Rb25 95 s14.Need dryer and expansion valve as well. Do you have a price for this kit?

Dcrprez
09-07-2015, 09:21 AM
Any updates on S14 with LS swap? I have a 95 that I am currently working on putting in a LS3. The Sikky lines are a nice option but I agree with you on replacing the old condenser and such.

jabbacalvin
09-14-2015, 09:28 AM
I am interested for my rb20 s13 with a koyo rad

2muchboost
10-09-2015, 11:11 AM
Any more updates on this development? I need to figure out my AC situation before next spring. This LS1 heats up,the interior quite badly......damn Texas heat to boot lol.

NOLAGG
10-21-2015, 10:52 AM
Bump....need something for my 2jz 350z.hoping to hear back.

TheRealSy90
10-21-2015, 12:12 PM
Where do you get that foam stripping to seal between radiators/condensors?



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/ernestonido/20140324_183549_zpszjhkcnd9.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/ernestonido/media/20140324_183549_zpszjhkcnd9.jpg.html)

Smooth
10-21-2015, 03:44 PM
Auto zone sells it

AWD260R
10-22-2015, 12:55 PM
Where do you get that foam stripping to seal between radiators/condensors?

I don't know about Autozone but I got mine at Homes Depot..it's expanding foam strip, once you open the sealed package it starts expanding and it actually is pretty durable.

TheRealSy90
10-22-2015, 02:08 PM
Awesome thanks, I want to seal the small gap between my radiator and the intercooler mounted under the core support.

AWD260R
10-23-2015, 11:47 AM
I don't know about Autozone but I got mine at Homes Depot..it's expanding foam strip, once you open the sealed package it starts expanding and it actually is pretty durable.

YW, you can find it by the air duct stuff, its purpose is for sealing around HVAC gaps or radiator to condenser :), btw I'm from Mesa, ahh miss the AZ life.

Stein180sx
03-09-2016, 01:29 PM
Any progress on this?

alex_s817
03-15-2016, 05:45 PM
Update: Blue rb26 car has been sold, never had a chance to build the new lines for the tucked radiator setup. Only difference was about 3" per side, but it was enough that the original lines I made didnt work.

ProjNightshade
03-15-2016, 06:14 PM
Bummer. I was ready to move on an S14/RB25 tucked radiator setup to get my car back on the road.

Sforteen
03-15-2016, 07:21 PM
Contact underpressure development on facebook

https://www.facebook.com/UnderPressureRacingDevelopment/

They built mine did a great job fit well.