horn button still wont work

[CoasTek240]

ok, i've searched on this topic, i've also actually tried messing with it on several ocasions.
heres the deal: i installed a nardi millenium steering wheel a couple months back. i was excited and installed the wheel and horn button but never bothered to deal with the horn. i searched on this topic b4 and found out the a metal ring that came with my HKB hub actually makes the connection for my horn to work, so i remove my nardi horn button and install the metal ring, problem is now my nardi horn button no longer fits on its niche, and even pushing on the ring doesnt make the horn go off. i dont know the acutal setup of the horn and how it works, i suppose that is my crutch.
if theres anything that you might know to help me out or any direction you can point me in i would appreciate it.
thanks in advance.
-dave

[sticky240]

im in the same boat.

I've got the HKB hub and a momo wheel. I have everything hooked up right, but it seems that the plastic ring in the back of the hub is a little too thick and does not let the metal prong on the steering column so the horn doesnt work.

[CoasTek240]

can u explain that a lil more?... it seems you know what is wrong. if i knew what was wrong, id find a way to fix it.
any helps appreciated

[idlafie]

ok, i've searched on this topic, i've also actually tried messing with it on several ocasions.
heres the deal: i installed a nardi millenium steering wheel a couple months back. i was excited and installed the wheel and horn button but never bothered to deal with the horn. i searched on this topic b4 and found out the a metal ring that came with my HKB hub actually makes the connection for my horn to work, so i remove my nardi horn button and install the metal ring, problem is now my nardi horn button no longer fits on its niche, and even pushing on the ring doesnt make the horn go off. i dont know the acutal setup of the horn and how it works, i suppose that is my crutch.
if theres anything that you might know to help me out or any direction you can point me in i would appreciate it.
thanks in advance.
-dave

IF you guys have access to a digital camera then take a picture of what you think the problem is and post it here. That way we can see what the problem is and advise you accordingly. The horn button works on a very simple circuit. Power & ground. The horn button provides the ground for the circuit. The horns not working because you aren't able to complete the ground curcuit. Check your wires from the hub & make sure they are connected properly. Also check the horn button itself. Make sure it's touching ground like it's supposed to. You might have to "ghetto'ize" it with washers, clips or something to get it to work.
Good luck!!
ID
95 SE

:coolugh: :faint:

[CoasTek240]

Ok, finally took some pics with the digi cam. :naughtyd:
well, heres the thing. cant get my horn to work. and i refuse to pay the $42 for some auto electrician to look @ it.
i know i'm supposed to have this ring inserted between the hub @ the actual wheel, but if i have the ring installed the nardi horn button will not fit in the opening. its almost as if the ring is used just as a spacer for smaller horn buttons so as to keep a contstant connection. so i have my hkb hub and nardi wheel. can anyone help. i have pictures below. and i have more and can take more if anyone has any ideas of what might be the problem.

[s14srpilot]

IIRC the ring is for momo horn buttons because they have a smaller diameter. I got my horn to work by going here: http://importnut.net/steeringswap.htm

[CoasTek240]

that link doesnt help me too much, pal. i appreciate it though. does anyone have any other suggestions? i've been working on this off and on for monthes now.

[sticky240]

I have the Nardi hub too and this is the reason my horn doesn't work

http://www.ganoobies.net/pics/sticky/hornproblem.gif
(took way too long to make)

well my problem is that the metal prong/dowel has to make contact with the brass contact ring on the hub so that there is an electrical connection for the horn.
As you can see, the plastic cover on the hub is too thick and so it doesn't allow the metal prong/dowel to make contact with the brass ring on the hub.
If I take the hub off and adjust it so it is making contact my horn works.

I havn't been able to work on it but I plan on seeing if I can cut the extra plastic off.

hope that makes sense :-/

[idlafie]

that link doesnt help me too much, pal. i appreciate it though. does anyone have any other suggestions? i've been working on this off and on for monthes now.

CoasTek,
First....
Test your horn system to see if it is working. To do that you have to disconnect the green wire from your Nardi horn button. Touch the green wire to the metal nut that hold your steering wheel to the steering column. By touching that green wire to the metal nut you should be able to complete an electrical circuit...your car horn should be sounding/honking whenever you touch the green wire to the metal nut on the steering column. If the horn honks, then we know the horn system works.
Second.....
Take a multimeter or circuit tester & test your Nardi horn button. Touch one probe to the connector, (where the green wire plugs into) and the other probe to the side of your Nardi horn button. Push the button & see if you are able to complete a circuit. The multimeter should "zero" out or the circuit tester should buzz when you press on the button. If it does, then we know the Nardi button works. If it doesn't, then try to find a metal contact on the side of the Nardi button that WILL cause the multimeter to "zero" out or the circuit tester to buzz. Once you find that metal contact, then replug the green wire back to the connector. Take another piece of wire & connect one end of the wire to the other metal contact on the Nardi button. Take the other end of that wire & connect it to any ground point on your car. Push the Nardi button....your horn should honk...If it doesn't then you've got a problem!!
Anyhow, you're going to have to figure out a way to complete the horn circuit so it works. It's gonna take some improvising on your part.
Good luck...you're gonna need it..Don't you have any fellow listmembers in your area that can help you figure it out??
Anyhow, here's wishing you the best...
ID

[andrave]

I had the same problem so I put a multimeter to the horns to see if they were getting power. then my brother put the wires together. smoke came out of the relay box and it never worked again.
sad story.

[240trainee]

I have the Nardi hub too and this is the reason my horn doesn't work

http://www.ganoobies.net/pics/sticky/hornproblem.gif
(took way too long to make)

well my problem is that the metal prong/dowel has to make contact with the brass contact ring on the hub so that there is an electrical connection for the horn.
As you can see, the plastic cover on the hub is too thick and so it doesn't allow the metal prong/dowel to make contact with the brass ring on the hub.
If I take the hub off and adjust it so it is making contact my horn works.

I havn't been able to work on it but I plan on seeing if I can cut the extra plastic off.

hope that makes sense :-/

This is the exact same problem I have. anyone know now?

[sticky240]

I just ziptied a piece of brass ro the the horn prong on the steering column and had it stick out far enough to make contact with the backside of the hub.

all works now

[240trainee]

I just ziptied a piece of brass ro the the horn prong on the steering column and had it stick out far enough to make contact with the backside of the hub.

all works now

Yea, I was thinking this is what would have to be done. oh well, anyone know why the hub is like this? Sooooo aggrivating :rl:

[d4vech3n]

Ok. Sorry to revive an old thread but i think its appropraite for my problem...


The brass ring on the back of the hub doesn't make contact with any of the brass screws on my car (s14)
The day before, i extracted a small bit of wiring from the stock steering wheel and connected it up, began touching things and finally got the horn to go off but the way I ghetto rigged it to work wasn't very practical. I was wondering if that extra wire from the original steering wheel harness was necessary to make it work because it seems like it just needs to touch the screws.

If i could make contact from the hub's brass ring to the screw, it should work right? There aren't any other necessary things to do?