View Full Version : Pics of SSR's on my car
VEX240
07-31-2004, 12:29 AM
Just took some pics, thought I would see what ya think.
http://www.hirevwi.com/Forum/uploads/SLOTH/MVC-006F.JPG http://www.hirevwi.com/Forum/uploads/SLOTH/MVC-009F.JPG http://www.hirevwi.com/Forum/uploads/SLOTH/MVC-008F.JPG
looks hot! now slam it and get some aero
ch1873857
07-31-2004, 12:36 AM
why so sunken in? other than that looks really good.
Projekt_Sil80
07-31-2004, 12:53 AM
Looks nice, what size is the rear?
Brian
07-31-2004, 01:08 AM
hmmm i found the new "fn01r-c"!
ch1873857
07-31-2004, 01:10 AM
yeah ive seen a lot of professors around. yet theyre so expensive
xkimcheekidx
07-31-2004, 02:09 AM
yah theyre popping up a lot now but they are still really clean
ootranceformeroo
07-31-2004, 02:13 AM
hmmm i found the new "fn01r-c"!
lol I noticed that too...but not too many people have S1's.
Not bad looking just lower the front about another 1/2in-1in and it should look good. Whats up with the size and offset if you were gonna get those wheels? Just wondering..
kouki tails are yumm!
Heartwork
07-31-2004, 02:32 AM
lol I noticed that too...but not too many people have S1's.
;) ;);););)
genetic
07-31-2004, 02:55 AM
Cool wheels
They are sunken in though
You could go lower as well
Other than that nice car.
Yeah the SP1's are pretty common now, i haven't seen to many SP1-R's though hahaha.
MakotoS13
07-31-2004, 08:27 AM
i would have sex with that if i could.
Zemus
07-31-2004, 09:05 AM
Throw a Spacer on it, they look hot from the side :-D. Whats the offset and width?
Ghst 01
07-31-2004, 09:28 AM
I agree with all of the above... Throw some spacers on there.. and drop it
Siizzzoooo
07-31-2004, 10:13 AM
damn i want those wheels, they are teh sex!
VEX240
07-31-2004, 02:00 PM
They are 18x8.5 +43 and 18x9.5 +35. Yeah I know its not enough now. When I asked what offsets to get for the sizes without having to pull the fenders. Well I got told to make the car fit the wheel and go bigger and flamed. I tried searching a little but dont have time to look over page after page of offest post. So I went with what SSR recomended. I'll just get spacers to make them more flush.
Thanks for the replies.
CoasTek240
07-31-2004, 02:05 PM
well thats an approach, go with what ssr reccomends.. nice. howd you get that answer?
well nice looking wheels, get some spacers and drop it a bit more. keep up the good work!
KiDyNomiTe
07-31-2004, 02:43 PM
wow, that was a big waste of money. Don't ever spend so much money without researching less lazily. Go to anyones websites with SSRs they should have offsets posted. Even with spacers it won't be the same, the lip will look weak.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid126/p1755dae3f083e17d84f8252ef4fb8f67/f7f7312a.jpg
18x9 +7 18x10 +11
VEX240
07-31-2004, 03:32 PM
I looked at the different offsets they offered, but I didnt know which would be the best so I just went with what Bulletproof Automotive (who i got the wheels from suggested) apparently they didnt know either. Oh well shit happens live and learn. I still like em.
Maeda
07-31-2004, 03:44 PM
They are 18x8.5 +43 and 18x9.5 +35. Yeah I know its not enough now.
Thanks for the replies.
Hahahahahaha! You were obviously high when you purchased those widths and offset...
You dropped a load of cash on wheels that don't fit.
You posted a thread you asked for it.
http://www.mailorderexpress.com/shop/prdpics/18645.jpg
Notice his battleship? Pride of the fleet? It's sunk!
See the correlation?
NOW it's contructive criticizm time. Next time you have a lot of money buy 18x9.5 something more like +10, and for the rear 18x10.5 with something like +10 as well. You will never have NICE wheels unless you BUY the proper offset. If you get a lower offset you get more lip, and the face gets more dished. With WEAK offset like posted above you get a flat wheel. :fruit:
EVEN THOUGH your screwed, you could fix it a little. I would go get a +25 bolt on spacer and post the pics again so nobody else laughs at your mistake.
exitspeed
07-31-2004, 04:01 PM
[QUOTE=Maeda] If you get a lower offset you get more lip, and the face gets more dished. With WEAK offset like posted above you get a flat wheel. :fruit:
[QUOTE=Maeda]
Oh you mean like the 350z wheels in your sig?????? :fawk2:
Brian
07-31-2004, 04:26 PM
yeah.
maeda didnt spend $xxxx on a pair of z33 wheels though, did he?
you are all weiners.
you stinking weiners.
Maeda
07-31-2004, 04:27 PM
[QUOTE=Maeda] If you get a lower offset you get more lip, and the face gets more dished. With WEAK offset like posted above you get a flat wheel. :fruit:
[QUOTE=Maeda]
Oh you mean like the 350z wheels in your sig?????? :fawk2:
Finally somebody noticed and called me out. Oh no looks like I can't make fun of you people anymore.
Actually no. I make fun of you because I learned this lesson already, but I learned it for free. I also am working on a college kid's budget (IE: None).
Free wheels won't fit nicely. When you drop a load of cash on crappy fitting wheels its your own damn fault. Sorry. Thats just how it looks to me. I don't get butt hurt when people tell me that MY setup isn't exactly perfect. I don't like to hear it, but its still very good to hear it, and WHY your shit isn't working right.
When I actually BUY wheels (instead of get the for FREE), I'm going to buy 17x9.5 + 12 for the front and 18x10.5 +10 for the rear.
Maeda
07-31-2004, 04:48 PM
Actually, when I buy wheels, I am gonna but 18x7.5 +42 all around! No no, even better! 16x7 +45!
Kid Zelda
07-31-2004, 04:58 PM
:( ..
*Points and makes fun*
HAHA, BOOM goes teh HOSE .. P/S FULID OWNZ JEW
Brian
07-31-2004, 05:00 PM
hahahahha.
it's funny 'cuz it's true!!!!
Maeda
07-31-2004, 05:01 PM
It's funny because I had the part all along and I didn't know it!
And then even funnier when I filled it with PS fluid and screwed it up!
And then all better again with ATF and a new line. That was a lesson learned.
Oh and since you made fun of my free wheels. You can take a look of how flush they are. Total spent = 8$
http://www.zilvia.net/f/vbgarage.php?do=popup&image=http://www.zilvia.net/f/vbgarage.php?do=getimage&id=80
doriftokouki
08-01-2004, 05:15 PM
silvia s14
Twinturbozs
08-01-2004, 05:52 PM
Dont sweat it Vex, those wheels are sweet. sure the offset could be a little lower. I would recommend an 8.5 in the 20's and a 9.5 in the 30's. these guys who want super low offsets run skinny ass tires so they wont rub. if you want ultimate grip, you can run 245/40's in front and 275/35 in the rears. most of these guys can only run 225F and 245's in the rear. personally, the "tootsie roll look" doesnt appeal to me. back in the days, alot of hispanics would run that style with their chrome 50 spoke wheels.
this isnt that big a deal to fix anyways....'
looking at the spoke design and considering the width you might have to run spacers anyways to clear Z-brakes when you do them.
test fit some Z-calipers and see what kind of spacer (if any) is required and buy what you need.
thus wheels will be flush yet... but yeah the offsets as they sit now are poo-poo...
HOWEVER..
spacers, tire-widths, camber etc can go a long way.
i have sexy JDM wheels too, but after Z-brakes and a minumum of 18mm spacer to clear i stick out way beyond the fender...
and negative camber is no friend to a daily driven car either.
yudalicious
08-01-2004, 06:35 PM
don't worry about Maeda, the rims look nice, fitment could be a bit better, but it's no big deal.
AKADriver
08-01-2004, 06:45 PM
How could the fitment be better? His wheels fit the car without fucking with the bodywork. That's perfect.
KiDyNomiTe
08-01-2004, 10:38 PM
Dont sweat it Vex, those wheels are sweet. sure the offset could be a little lower. I would recommend an 8.5 in the 20's and a 9.5 in the 30's. these guys who want super low offsets run skinny ass tires so they wont rub. if you want ultimate grip, you can run 245/40's in front and 275/35 in the rears. most of these guys can only run 225F and 245's in the rear. personally, the "tootsie roll look" doesnt appeal to me. back in the days, alot of hispanics would run that style with their chrome 50 spoke wheels.
Who said anything about running skinny tires. The pic I posted runs 235s 245s. Tire size dpends on his power. You could run 20mm lower with 275s if he really wanted to, he is just way off on the offset.
The main point of my argument is if you are buying new wheels and have a choice, get the right offsets, being you will probably end up being off by like 5-10mm after camber is accounted for, then you throw in spacers, or roll fenders.
holisticbeatz
08-01-2004, 11:11 PM
your car is ugly
nismo_sr20_wut
08-01-2004, 11:29 PM
Great choice of wheels but terrible choice of specs. Choosing a wheel is one thing but choosin the right specs for the wheels is everything for the car. This car could have looked like sex but looks more like um...not. Agresssive wheel well filling flush wheels w/ a deep face and lip is what you could have got. But unforently due to your lack of research you end up w/ wheels which don't look like great nor look like that belong on the car. I'm feel bad for the money you wasted.
Heartwork
08-01-2004, 11:51 PM
these guys who want super low offsets run skinny ass tires so they wont rub.
WRONG...
i have 225-45-17 on my 17x8 +5et on the front of my S14 for track events...flush as hell and no rubbing
nismo_sr20_wut
08-02-2004, 12:01 AM
Crazy how the same wheel can look so different simply being different specs.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/cr1msonmx5/IMG_1650a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/cr1msonmx5/IMG_1654a.jpg
DoriftoSlut
08-02-2004, 12:37 AM
Levi totally ruins that pic.
FallbrookS13
08-02-2004, 09:21 AM
wow. thats a lot of money to spend on wheels that are not the right size. looks dope from the side though.
Twinturbozs
08-02-2004, 10:46 AM
i noticed in the pics the rear fender has been pulled out quite a bit. why is that? what size are those tires?
KiDyNomiTe
08-02-2004, 10:50 AM
Some people like the look of pulled fenders, did you ever think about that. If research is properly done, you won't need to pull the fenders. Rolling them will be enough of an adjustment that people won't notice, if the need be.
Heartwork
08-02-2004, 11:46 AM
Some people like the look of pulled fenders, did you ever think about that. If research is properly done, you won't need to pull the fenders. Rolling them will be enough of an adjustment that people won't notice, if the need be.
In Nitekid's case, he probably needed them...something like 18x10.5 +5 on the rear wheels 245-40-18
420sx
08-02-2004, 11:50 AM
dude.... you stole my wheels. buahaha
justinhustle
08-02-2004, 11:56 AM
henry has 18x10.5 +5 or so
KiDyNomiTe
08-02-2004, 01:44 PM
18x9 +5 18x10.5 +5
thelinja
08-02-2004, 01:54 PM
How could the fitment be better? His wheels fit the car without fucking with the bodywork. That's perfect.
Exactly. Not everyone wants to pull fenders and stretch a 225 tire over a 10" wheel. I know I wouldn't. Everyone who says you wasted your money is wrong, if I ever get those wheels, I'll know what size and offset to get because I think that looks GREAT.
Ricer240sx
08-02-2004, 08:36 PM
looks sweet!!
btw, i am in wi too!! :D im in green bay! u goin to the chicago meet on sunday?? ill be there and would love to meet more WI enthusiasts!
don't worry about Maeda, the rims look nice, fitment could be a bit better, but it's no big deal.
Eh, I dunno; when you spend more than 2gs on rimmies it is kind of a big deal. Still hot.
nismo_sr20_wut
08-02-2004, 11:06 PM
Stop trying to suger coat his mistake.
doriftokouki
08-02-2004, 11:23 PM
silvia s14
AKADriver
08-02-2004, 11:46 PM
I buy wheels to be functional. Forget "lip". Forget "flush". Buy some wheels that fit for a change.
If he doesn't have coilovers (and he must not if those wheels fit), +43 is fine. +40 is stock. Using an offset in that area is not a mistake. Just not your preference.
nismofeind
08-03-2004, 12:04 AM
call SSR and ask them if you can trade Lips or sell the lips to a honda guy. lol +43.
KiDyNomiTe
08-03-2004, 12:30 AM
lower offset has a wider stance, hence a bit more functional.
Maeda
08-03-2004, 03:37 PM
lower offset has a wider stance, hence a bit more functional.
Thats what im trying to say. AKAdriver you're still high.
Flushness is a look that I like, if don't like it thats cool.
A wider wheel base is not an purely asthetic judgement like how flush I like wheels.
Why is there even an arguement here?
Bryants95240sx
08-03-2004, 03:55 PM
ok he made a mistake he's human.why dont you all just lay off of him and let it go.it wasnt your money that was spent. if he likes the way they look then thats all that matters.i know yall are gonna say"well he posted on the internet so expect critizim" i think weve passed that mark just drop it.he likes it its his car.
KiDyNomiTe
08-03-2004, 06:18 PM
ok he made a mistake he's human.why dont you all just lay off of him and let it go.it wasnt your money that was spent. if he likes the way they look then thats all that matters.i know yall are gonna say"well he posted on the internet so expect critizim" i think weve passed that mark just drop it.he likes it its his car.
the argument has gone way past him, he knew his mistake before he posted.
AKADriver
08-03-2004, 07:23 PM
I'm not high.
Not everybody wants drastically wider track badly enough to accept the drawbacks. Get it through your heads... it's not a mistake to do things differently. Every mod involves give and take, everyone prefers a different look and feel and has different priorities. No, it's not an aesthetic judgement, but it's still subjective.
To be completely serious here, I'd have gone lower in the front... enough to barely clear coilovers. Function!
KiDyNomiTe
08-03-2004, 07:29 PM
I'm not high.
Not everybody wants drastically wider track badly enough to accept the drawbacks. Get it through your heads... it's not a mistake to do things differently. Every mod involves give and take, everyone prefers a different look and feel and has different priorities. No, it's not an aesthetic judgement, but it's still subjective.
To be completely serious here, I'd have gone lower in the front... enough to barely clear coilovers. Function!
how is higher offset function. You need to get it throught your head that nobody said anything about getting wheels that stick out of the fender. Just as far out as you can get without sticking out, for the wider track. At least that's my reason, can't help it if it looks good, while being function (but nowadays anything that looks good has to be rice, and not functional right.. :rolleyes: ) The only drawback (which in my mind is a plus) to wider track is the lip. If you dislike it, then get wheels like Kosei K1/Buddy Club P1s, no lip at all.
AKADriver
08-03-2004, 08:01 PM
Lighter, more stock-like steering feel with closer to stock geometry.
It might not be your preference, but other people might like it.
I actually like lip, but I've wanted a set of the K1s for years...
AAA240SX
08-03-2004, 08:06 PM
Low offsets w/ phat lips, and a wider track stickin to the pavement own all...
Who cares if it's "rice" who is there to determine that anyway. Fuck that stereotyping bullshit, I'm tired of it!
:bs:
If u buy aftermarket shizit and they're close to stock spec they suck. Go home sit down, cry while ur takin a dump, and don't post about it.
best thing to do is try to exchange the rims 4m where u bought em...good luck bro...if it was me, i'd b pissed :bash: .
KiDyNomiTe
08-03-2004, 08:11 PM
Lighter, more stock-like steering feel with closer to stock geometry.
It might not be your preference, but other people might like it.
I actually like lip, but I've wanted a set of the K1s for years...
How is it lighter? I know you wouldnt buy those on stock ride height so thrwo out the whole stock geometry stuff out. If you want it to feel stock then keep it stock.
AKADriver
08-03-2004, 08:28 PM
Lighter steering effort, not lighter weight. Adding scrub radius increases steering effort and bumpsteer. It matters a lot if you have PS disabled...
It's all degrees. lowering ride height by 1.5" or so has a far more minor effect on geometry than the drastic lowering and extremely negative static camber that usually accompanies the ultra low offset wheels.
There are plenty of improvements to be had with larger, wider wheels without radical offset changes. Grip still improves, tire selection still improves, unsprung weight still goes down, and even with a "mistake" +30 wheel, track width increases almost an inch.
I know what I want out of my car, I know plenty about chassis engineering, and I know I don't want wheels that don't fit in the stock unrolled/unpulled bodywork.
justinhustle
08-03-2004, 08:32 PM
there is no point in buying wheel for two thousand dollars to have them be as close to stock as possible
i understand taking into the fact of the original sizing and not getting 18x10 +5 but who buys ssr professors in a size like 18x8 +45, you should be shot for wasting cash on crap.
more over, if you bought ssr from a SHOP in that size, they shouldve told you, that would never clear big brakes or coil overs, in which case you got 2k wheels to sit on stock suspension basically and stock calipers.
sorry bout people being overly rude to ya, but they all have valid points, you wasted an assload on useless wheels, minus visable appeal
AKADriver
08-03-2004, 08:40 PM
I didn't waste shit, hahaha. I have stock teardrops. :p
KiDyNomiTe
08-03-2004, 08:50 PM
I know what I want out of my car, I know plenty about chassis engineering, and I know I don't want wheels that don't fit in the stock unrolled/unpulled bodywork.
You did it again... I never said you have to roll or pull anything. They can fit and look nice without rolling or pulling. Rolling or pulling is only used if you are off by too much, some like the look, some don't, some get flares, some don't. I havent said go super low, or negative offset, I have said choose the right offset for it to be flush. You can be flush at 4 degrees of camber, 1 degree of camber or at 20 degrees positive. Figure out your camber, then figure out the offset. I don't let my wheels choose my cars alignmet, if the need be I'll add spacers or roll the fender (don't know why you are anti rolling, it does nothing but bend a useless lip in the body). The ride height has nothing to do with offsets either, just how your car sits with wheels.
I have my PS and don't ever plan on getting rid of it, car steers faster than I need it to.
AKADriver
08-03-2004, 09:41 PM
+43 is definitely on the high side, I'll say that. the rears he got are good though.
you never mentioned fender mods, but Maeda did. apologies.
My beef with rolling is that it increases the risk of the fender rusting (unless it's done before paint), and in our cars in the front there's that wiring harness to deal with. It's not a major beef. I just don't think it's really necessary.
CreAziaN
08-03-2004, 09:49 PM
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sportcars14a/detail?.dir=/3522&.dnm=49f6.jpg
and these
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128172
is that AlphaIntegra on offtopic.com? :bite:
KiDyNomiTe
08-03-2004, 09:53 PM
he is on every forum...
Maeda
08-03-2004, 10:39 PM
+43 is definitely on the high side, I'll say that. the rears he got are good though.
you never mentioned fender mods, but Maeda did. apologies.
My beef with rolling is that it increases the risk of the fender rusting (unless it's done before paint), and in our cars in the front there's that wiring harness to deal with. It's not a major beef. I just don't think it's really necessary.
Hey where did I mention fender work either smart guy? Looks like you can't read or pick a decent offset.
I said go LOWER, I DID NOT SAY 'go single digit retardedly low' or even 'negative low offset' nor did I mention any 'fender work' (cool in my book but maybe not others). I said get the PROPER offset. Go back to page one. It's still there. +30 is not a proper offset for 18 inches of wheel.
You can roll the fenders without destroying the paint with a heatgun.
Relocate the wiring harness to shield it from the elements as well as the tires.
Anything else you need to know?
Dousan_PG
08-03-2004, 10:52 PM
that looks fucking terrible.
what horrible choice and sizing wise. if the offset with lower would be better, dont even need to pul the fenders or anything, just a better offset. but that....horrible. mega sunk and ugly. sure does the job but why not do the same job but look better? fuck that. sell those pos wheels.
AKADriver
08-03-2004, 11:18 PM
What the hell does wheel diameter have to do with offset? Width, sure... but an 18x8.5 doesn't have drastically different offset requirements for proper fit than a 16x8.5. What difference there is depends on the tire width each wheel allows, and the slight difference in suspension clearance from the steering axis inclination. Taking those into account, the smaller wheels need lower offsets...
You mentioned fender work in another thread. Apologies again for the confusion.
Fuck it, you're convinced I don't know what I'm talking about so I'm just going to quit now. I KNOW what fits on my car the way I want it to fit, and I KNOW the effects of all these changes. My priorities != your priorities.
Dousan_PG
08-03-2004, 11:24 PM
WHO GIVES A FUCK AKA
he likes it so whatever
as far as all that shit it fucks up with various sizes/offsets you can fix most of it with suspension tuning if you take the time and spend the money
some people do some people dont
AKADriver
08-04-2004, 12:31 AM
My problem, from the beginning, is thus:
Say someone that doesn't know much comes on asking for wheel size recommendations. People throw out stuff that's optimal for their setup. That's fine. That's to be expected. But when anyone like me dares to point out that there's lots of additional stuff required/recommended to run even a mildly aggressive wheel setup, and that it might not be optimal for everyone, the insults come out and people start calling wheels that fit just fine with no hassles "WRONG."
I just can't stand blanket statements like that... Someone in another thread called an 8" wide, +26 a Honda wheel size... some people have totally lost perspective.
I have nothing better to argue about because I haven't been able to work on my car the past couple weeks. haha. My friend's garage door broke, so no place to go. Weaksauce... My S13 needs new rad hoses and trans oil... my daily needs new rear brake pads... bah. That and I'm pissed that the M2 wheel groupbuys seem to have all simultaneously died, because I wanted some of those 16x8 +27s... close to R32 GT-R stock size which I always thought was a good subtle look on the S13, good match to 225/50s...
Now I'm rambling but at least I'm chilled out.
AAA240SX
08-04-2004, 08:59 AM
My beef with rolling is that it increases the risk of the fender rusting (unless it's done before paint), and in our cars in the front there's that wiring harness to deal with. It's not a major beef. I just don't think it's really necessary.
Rolling the fenders won't cause rust. If it is rolled and a piece of metal is torn or broken, that part will get oxidated and begin to rust. If done properly and there are no surface imperfections (cuts, tears, uneccesary bends, etc.) the modified fender will not rust at all...
I just cut ur slice of beef...:Owned:
SimpleS14
08-04-2004, 02:32 PM
wow, that was a big waste of money. Don't ever spend so much money without researching less lazily. Go to anyones websites with SSRs they should have offsets posted. Even with spacers it won't be the same, the lip will look weak.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid126/p1755dae3f083e17d84f8252ef4fb8f67/f7f7312a.jpg
18x9 +7 18x10 +11
I agree.....that is a waste of money IMO. :-/
DuffMan
08-04-2004, 05:11 PM
Lighter, more stock-like steering feel with closer to stock geometry.
It might not be your preference, but other people might like it.
I actually like lip, but I've wanted a set of the K1s for years...
Bingo. My plan is higher offset in front, lower offset with relatively higher spring rate in the back. Best of both worlds. :)
Maeda
08-04-2004, 08:54 PM
My problem, from the beginning, is thus:
I just can't stand blanket statements like that... Someone in another thread called an 8" wide, +26 a Honda wheel size... some people have totally lost perspective.
Yes I agree with you on that. A lot of us have lost perspective. I still stand by what I said though. In my personal opinion something around 17x9.5 +10 would be optimum as far as wheel base.
A lot of people are the new breed of drift ricer and I can understand your animosity. But please, when I bitch it's not because I don't think its JDM driftarr tyte, I say what I say because I honestly believe it'll work better.
Now it's just opions on whats optimum. You say you don't like the scrub radius differences and I say it doesn't make a difference.
Ok lets hug.
KiDyNomiTe
08-05-2004, 01:13 AM
Bingo. My plan is higher offset in front, lower offset with relatively higher spring rate in the back. Best of both worlds. :)
You and your kooky ways, I won't believe any of it until its done and you let me drive your car ;) Once you start talking you go over my head...
nismo_sr20_wut
08-05-2004, 01:42 AM
Bingo. My plan is higher offset in front, lower offset with relatively higher spring rate in the back. Best of both worlds. :)
What he is trying to say is:
"I like sunken wheels and am trying to find an excuse on why I run them."
mrmephistopheles
08-05-2004, 02:02 AM
Ok lets hug.
I always knew you were a fruitypants.
:fruit:
nismo_sr20_wut
08-05-2004, 03:33 AM
http://www.sillbeer.com/upload/files/battleshipwheels.jpg
focused
08-05-2004, 08:39 AM
Nice wheels, and man, if you like how they fit, fuck everyone else.. it's your car.
Bbandit
08-05-2004, 09:46 AM
I know everybody has different taste....
BUT +43 OFFSET??????
D'oh c'mon now... :mepoke:
I myself am pretty embarrased right now everytime I look the wheels on my car... +27 offset is still sunken a bit... let alone +43 :ughug:
DuffMan
08-05-2004, 10:12 AM
You and your kooky ways, I won't believe any of it until its done and you let me drive your car ;) Once you start talking you go over my head...
I cant because Dave still has my meshies :cry:
Strategos
08-07-2004, 02:54 PM
Are these bad bad wheel specs for any 240sx that is going for a better time at drift events? I plan on upgraded brakes and coilovers as well:
18 8.5 5x114.3 30ET
18 9.5 4x114.3 35 ET
KiDyNomiTe
08-07-2004, 03:31 PM
I cant because Dave still has my meshies :cry:
but those are like 15x7 +0, that ruins the whole argument....
Strategos
08-07-2004, 04:10 PM
Did I write this down right?
18 8.5 5x114.3 30ET
18 9.5 4x114.3 35ET
I think that's 30+ for the front and 35+ for the rear, would that be a waist or something? :spank:
Sorry but I only know what the 18 8.5 and 18 8.5 mean, the rest is all new stuff to me
Crab Spirits
08-07-2004, 06:10 PM
I've been waiting to use this...
http://home.comcast.net/~movistar323/wrong.JPG
Strategos
08-07-2004, 11:25 PM
I'm asking for a reason here, are these specs any good? I want to fit coilovers in too eventually, asking now so I don't buy the wrong offsets.
18 8.5 5x114.3 30ET
18 9.5 4x114.3 35ET
KiDyNomiTe
08-08-2004, 12:56 AM
Well figure DT05Rs come in 17x8.5 +25 17x9.5 +30 and fit just fine, no pulling (not sure on rolling, depends mostly on camber setup). So drop your settings by 5mm, if you want more camber or you like rolling and pulling your fenders then keep lowering.
dmora79
08-08-2004, 02:02 PM
Crazy how the same wheel can look so different simply being different specs.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/cr1msonmx5/IMG_1650a.jpg[/MG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/cr1msonmx5/IMG_1654a.jpg[/IG]
what offsets are those?
:edit:
nevermind, i found em....
Seriously you guys are some hard asses.
:mepoke:
Im sure the had the same problems i am currently having in trying to research appropriate offsets.
I get such wide variation and everyone saying "USE THE SEARCH" And again comming up with nothing consistent.
I think The ones pictured of "nitekids" are too wide, on top of the fact that NO ONE is using appropriate sized tires. On a 10" wide wheel you should be using 275~295s. From what people are posting it sounds like you are using 225s on rediculously wide wheels.
Thats simply absurd.
I want to have 18x9s all around and hope to fit 265s all around. Even still, those will be my bling wheels and i'll use my R33 GTR wheels for track events.
AKA is right...the offsets he chose are gonna ride alot better then the super low offset (includign me to some extent...17x8 up front w/ +9 offset) AND they were 400 bucks so HA
but yeah...steering is gonna be close to stock w/ his car and the drawbacks from the "not as wide" wheel base are gonna be nominal...i'm just such a slave to looks that i had to have low offsets
KiDyNomiTe
08-08-2004, 11:36 PM
what offsets are those?
:edit:
nevermind, i found em....
Seriously you guys are some hard asses.
:mepoke:
Im sure the had the same problems i am currently having in trying to research appropriate offsets.
I get such wide variation and everyone saying "USE THE SEARCH" And again comming up with nothing consistent.
I think The ones pictured of "nitekids" are too wide, on top of the fact that NO ONE is using appropriate sized tires. On a 10" wide wheel you should be using 275~295s. From what people are posting it sounds like you are using 225s on rediculously wide wheels.
Thats simply absurd.
I want to have 18x9s all around and hope to fit 265s all around. Even still, those will be my bling wheels and i'll use my R33 GTR wheels for track events.
We have our reasons, with 265s you won't drift very well. You should be able to get close to the right offsets if you try hard enough. You guys are expecting someone to have your exact setup, well thats not gonna happen, you have to think for yourself sometimes, if thats asking too much then just be like the post starter and ask the company you are buying them from and get bad reccomendations.
Crab Spirits
08-09-2004, 03:13 PM
"On a 10" wide wheel you should be using 275~295s. From what people are posting it sounds like you are using 225s on rediculously wide wheels.
Thats simply absurd."
Why?
And why not try to understand how to properly choose offsets and width for your intents and puposes before even copying what someone else has? Seriously, it is not that hard. It is SIMPLE geometry. Take wheels off your car and do some measuring.
AAA240SX
08-09-2004, 10:45 PM
When "Search," is applied as advice it doesn't necessarily mean for someone to be dependent on this forum's past threads. since every1 here posts setups that are doing well for THEIR project, you will never know what is right for you.
it all depends on your goals for the vehicle (show, strip, autox). there is no real answer to be found here on the forum. just friendly (sometimes) advise and input through past experiences; especially from those that have been in this game longer than others.
to find YOUR perfect setup: determine your goal for the project, read actual chassis engineering/suspension engineering & dynamics material, and use that knowledge to measure out what's really good 4 u. like those new caramel kisses from hersheys (DOPE SHIZNAZIT!)
alkemyst
08-11-2004, 02:32 PM
They are 18x8.5 +43 and 18x9.5 +35. Yeah I know its not enough now. When I asked what offsets to get for the sizes without having to pull the fenders. Well I got told to make the car fit the wheel and go bigger and flamed. I tried searching a little but dont have time to look over page after page of offest post. So I went with what SSR recomended. I'll just get spacers to make them more flush.
I am dealing with the same bullcrap now in my thread. "You know all this is 'easily' found on the internet", "call the wheel company and see what they say", "go look at pics, you can tell if they rolled or pulled the fenders", etc...
I guess if you are just buying $50 wheel sets you can play a bit....right?
I am debating a 17x8 +30mm up front and 17x9 +24mm out back....I don't know if 17x9 +24mm will work on all 4 corners without really stretching the front tires and it's obvious the backs will be sunk in more.
I think 1 17x8 +30mm upfront may be a little too far outside as well. I can't find a good shot of them at the right angle to tell.
supportTHEezln
11-09-2004, 07:32 PM
The rims are cool, I dig 'em.
s14falcon
11-09-2004, 07:53 PM
Can i slap you in the face for bringing up a pointless thread to say a pointless remark? :rofl:
driftyour40
11-09-2004, 09:54 PM
I'm just sittin here reading all this eating a noodle bowl and smoking a cigarette, thinking I am Japanese (for the record I'm not) anyhow about this thread. It's cool, I think if he posted here and asked what do you think, then he's getting what he asked for. I like the rims but they are just a little to sunk in. I'm not a big fan of stretched tires, but it looks cool as hell. Anyhow your car dude, hope your happy with it. nice rims though.
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