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OBEEWON
01-21-2015, 12:49 PM
I've been looking for some tires for the front of my car (I will be doing HPDE's and drift events). I drive to the track so I need something that won't kill me if it rains and has a decent treadwear. What do you guys use? Prices? I'm looking for 18's
Considering:
Star Spec
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MjUwWDI1MA==/z/aQAAAOSwxH1T-lTN/$_35.JPG
Yoko Advans
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MjI1WDIyNQ==/z/5TwAAOSw6aVUoWBA/$_12.JPG
NT05's
https://www.onlinetires.com/images/uploaded_images/product_photos-xlarge_image-8903-331x.jpg
Anyone have experience with any of these? How do they work in the wet? I need a bit more front end grip so its time to get a nicer tire.
e1_griego
01-21-2015, 12:51 PM
I have z2 right now (not star spec version). Granite sidewalls, good wet traction, they don't love to be overheated. Seem to be wearing like iron. I've done 4 track days on them and some autox and they still look great.
I'd add rs3 v2 to your list, as well. Softer sidewalls but deal better with heat.
OBEEWON
01-21-2015, 01:24 PM
Are these the RS3's? Cooper? They are pretty cheap. I like that. I need to do a bit of a stretch so I may need a softer sidewall.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzQzWDUwMA==/z/jwcAAOSwzrxUtTcq/$_12.JPG
dbeiler
01-21-2015, 01:38 PM
Nitto NT05 are suicide in wet weather. Nitto NT555 are a bit more forgiving.
e1_griego
01-21-2015, 01:43 PM
No, the Hankook Ventus Rs-3.
hellaslows13
01-21-2015, 02:11 PM
I love the star specs! But if you are looking for something on the lower end I have had good luck with federal 595 and sumitomo htrz ii.
OBEEWON
01-21-2015, 02:37 PM
How is the tread wear on those? I'll check out the Hankooks.
Are these the RS3's? Cooper? They are pretty cheap. I like that. I need to do a bit of a stretch so I may need a softer sidewall.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzQzWDUwMA==/z/jwcAAOSwzrxUtTcq/$_12.JPG
I was debating getting these. I heard they are great for the money but are pretty hard rubber, and the sideway isnt strech friendly. Some places are selling 225/40/18s cheaper than Nankgangs.
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truckmtrS13
01-21-2015, 02:59 PM
I was debating getting these. I heard they are great for the money but are pretty hard rubber, and the sideway isnt strech friendly. Some places are selling 225/40/18s cheaper than Nankgangs.
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I run the coopers on my 240. Best tire I've used in the rain. Pretty sticky in the dry as well. The price is right too. As for stretching, I'm running a 215/45 on a 17x9 which is very mild compared to most.
derass
01-21-2015, 03:08 PM
I would choose the RS3s, they are simply one of the fastest EXP class tires out. Z2 and AD08 are also top picks, although the Yokos out of my budget. I would also be willing to try cheaper tires like 595 RS-R or NS2-R. Symmetrical tread design and being able to flip the tires as they become camber worn is a big selling point for me.
BossHogg
01-21-2015, 10:32 PM
I thought I heard AD08 wear fast and are not so good in the wet. But for dry conditions, they are top notch if you drive the piss out of them.
I ran star specs on the street and RS-3 on the circuit since I was in the street class. I could run 8-12 laps hard and they never gave and were never consistent. There cheaper than the star specs also. If you need a hi pro street tire you wont be disappoint with them on the track. Although its a different brand a lot of Japanese race teams and tuners are going with the Hankook TD's. This in it self says a lot because Japanese people seldom go with anything Korean. But those tires are awesome as well. What I have notice a lot of people new to the track try to get the best/$$ tire and dont even push their lower end tires to the limit. I think it would help if people went with crawl walk run approach. Although not in the track I use to swear by the Yoko Neova line but as I look back it was a lot of money for an ok tire.
g14novak
01-22-2015, 04:47 PM
You may also want to look into Bridgestone s04. They were reasonably priced ($145/ea), have excellent wet traction, and are incredibly quiet. The dry traction is predictable and treadwear is ok. As a comparison, they ride quieter than the Michelin Pilots I have mounted on the rear for sliding right now.
korito727
01-22-2015, 04:47 PM
My friend has Gt Radials champiro uhp1, he loves them I personally saw him slide with them on the front and rear and it gripped great and the rears smoked a lot.
I used to run federals (each model) and liked them all for the price but I wasn't a fan of the round stretch they had. I now have Achilles and haven't driven with them but they gripped pretty well both wet and dry on the rear of my M3.
what about Nt05s for rain? are they that bad?
sncs14
01-23-2015, 06:24 AM
Picked up some AD08R on closeout from Tire Rack a few weeks ago, pretty much the same price as the latest StarSpec and RE11A. Previously had Ad07, Re01R, and first gen StarSpecs. I liked the Advans the best, so I snagged the 08R to give those a try, but haven't put them on the car yet.
Aesthetics45
01-23-2015, 06:47 AM
I run starspecs on my s2k and was instantly hooked. Great in wet weather, but takes a little to warm them up. After winter the silvia will get a set as well.
what about Nt05s for rain? are they that bad?
They're not great, that's for sure.
Rain = some puddles and standing water. They're fine in damp conditions, if a bit low on grip because they generally like heat.
Last I looked, the Federal 595 RS-Rs were pretty cheap, and offer decent dry grip. It'd probably be between those and NT05s for me on a street tire. No sense in paying near R-comp prices for street prices.
Agamemnon
01-23-2015, 08:51 AM
I've been running a full set of the RS3 v2's on my 3.8 coupe and have great grip on dry roads. Living in the mildew state, I was concerned about wet conditions because the reviews of the V1's werent that great. However, it only takes a minute or so for warm up and then they stick damn good. I got them on a closeout from tirerack for like $650 in 19inchers.
OBEEWON
01-23-2015, 10:04 AM
Good feedback. Thanks fellers.
LockOn!
01-23-2015, 10:29 AM
In for Star Specs. IMO best "daily/track" duty tire. They wear comparatively slow to the other options in the class. If you trailer your car then go more aggressive but I know people who run these all year around.
Are the new ones shipping now? I haven't sampled the new version.
e1_griego
01-23-2015, 10:58 AM
Just to clarify the top-tier direzzas, there are 4 models. z1, z1 star spec, z2, z2 star spec. The first 3 are discontinued, so now what you get is z2 star spec. I'm on regular z2s and they do indeed wear like iron. Once you overheat them they do get greasy. But with super stiff sidewalls you can run some lower pressure and keep them feeling less 'skatey'.
SaUcEy
01-23-2015, 11:05 AM
In for Star Specs simply because they seem to have have better wear. I liked the RS3's a lot for the money, but went though them quickly. i allo had the NT555r's and was very happy with those overall. Lapped Road Atlanta in them a few times, with a lot of AutoX and they held up well.
Im on Yokohama Advans now (just the sport) and Im unhappy with how quickly Ive eaten up the rears after 2 grip events.. 370z, TCS on, just getting accustomed to the suspension changes, not even pushing hard and Im at the wear bars. Weak sauce.
LockOn!
01-23-2015, 11:34 AM
Also,
I think Dunlop sidewalls look really cool stretched or not.
My inner fanboi is showing.
kunt_masha
01-23-2015, 12:14 PM
I ran NT05's last year and never pushed.. they last almost a full season too
Your issue will be fitment though.. sticky tires and aspects below 40 dont really go together.
nick Ritter
01-23-2015, 12:20 PM
Nitto NT05 are suicide in wet weather. Nitto NT555 are a bit more forgiving.
+1 to this have them on my car …. not as good as i thought they would be after reading reviews and such
itsjustdaphne
01-23-2015, 05:21 PM
Had NT05's on our VH Z32 drift car and they were grippy and long-lasting. Did 3 events and they didn't wear down noticeably. However, they will wear out fast for daily driving. Since you drive to the track, keep this in mind, depending on how far your trip is though.
If I were you I'd just get the Federal 595 RS-Rs. Good price and I know of an LS1 S13 who uses them drifting with no complaints. I see more Federals on street driven cars than Nittos.
OBEEWON
01-24-2015, 09:00 AM
My problem is I'm driving an SC and it's so front heavy, any left foot braking brings on a ton of understeer. So I need the stickiest tire that won't overheat quickly. I upped my spring rates to 20kg which might makes things worse. But I do need a stretch. 10.5 front so I need something no narrower than 235 and no taller than 40. The star specs are all 45 from what I'm finding.
kunt_masha
01-24-2015, 09:25 AM
245/35 18
Sidewall aspect is the only thing that matters. You can get a few good tires in that size
derass
01-24-2015, 10:23 PM
I need something no narrower than 235 and no taller than 40. The star specs are all 45 from what I'm finding.
Go on Tire Rack. The Z2 Star Spec is available in 235/40, 17 and 18. TR used to be the exclusive distributor of the Z1s but I don't know if that's changed.
Fuego
01-25-2015, 11:20 PM
Ran Z1 star specs for a while and they were tits. On Nt05s now... awful in the wet and they really need some heat to get sticky. They do seems to be wearing a bit better than the older Z1s, still I think I'll be going back to Direzzas at the end of the year.
Sijionda
02-13-2015, 10:07 AM
I have a set of NT555s on my fox body, 255/45R17. Stomping it in 2nd breaks them loose very easily so if your running a high amount of torque your not going to get tons of grip. It's obviously due to the torque of my car, just my input. That being said they are very controllable while drifting.
tougefactory
02-13-2015, 02:12 PM
I'm on my 3rd set of Hankook Ventus RS-3's on our FR-S. Mostly road course track use. 245/40/17 square setup.
2 sets were version 1 RS-3's and my current set is on the version 2 RS-3's.
RS-3's handle heat really well, and once up to temp they grip!
The version 1's were scary in cold weather and wet conditions...no traction.
Version 2's are suppose to get up to temp quicker and perform better in colder temps. I have noticed that the version 2's grip falls off faster once you've surpassed optimal tire temps. I've also had to start off at 28psi cold vs 30psi cold from version 1.
Wet traction is a lot better on the version 2's.
http://photos-c.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xap1/t51.2885-15/10683829_545884175557690_1411135516_n.jpg
Dunlop ZII star specs were just released - I will be getting these next.
Toyo R1R: The traction level feels similar to the RS-3's, but the tires sidewall feels too soft, and under very hard braking car seems to wander.
Nitto NT05: Used these couple years back, and was ok. I wouldn't really put these up as comparison to the RS-3's or ZII Star Specs though... maybe compare to the Falken RT615K.
I've personally never used Falken RT615K's for track use, but from what I read, the tires don't handle heat very well.
Advan AD08R: We have these on our S14. Which we will be trying out this year as well. We really liked the AD07's, so hopefully these don't disappoint.
K_style
02-13-2015, 02:31 PM
I have a set of NT555s on my fox body, 255/45R17. Stomping it in 2nd breaks them loose very easily so if your running a high amount of torque your not going to get tons of grip. It's obviously due to the torque of my car, just my input. That being said they are very controllable while drifting.
No they done.. NT555 suck other than putting that on rear.
+1 for Hankook RS-3.
hotrodln
02-16-2015, 07:12 PM
I've been looking for some tires for the front of my car (I will be doing HPDE's and drift events). I drive to the track so I need something that won't kill me if it rains and has a decent treadwear. What do you guys use? Prices? I'm looking for 18's
the Nitto's are the stickiest summer tire...but as others have said, they aren't for the wet, the coopers are good tires.I've had them on two cars..the federals last the longest for drifting hands down. .
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