rarity of 240sx from drifting

[drewc]

Am I the only person who looks at drifting as a cool sport, but feels a bit of disgust from the destruction of cars from drifting. I figure in a few years that there will be fewer 240sx's than some of the more rare cars. As a car enthusiast. I do not think the 240sx is the best car ever made or denying the fact that thousands have been made compared to other cars. But how many have been totaled up and hacked up just to have parts swapped to a new shell after a bad mishap on the track. I think that in the next 5-6 years it will be a rare car or highly sought after due to the number that are being totaled out and cut up. Japan, I think is the worst when it comes to car destruction from what I am seeing. It is almost like this generation of people proudly flog ripping bumpers off and zip tying panels on as if it is the next cool thing to have (battle scars) on the car and parts missing. I do not feel this is cool. Just wondering if I am the only one that has thoughts about this sort of stuff.

[OBEEWON]

Don't worry. My Skyline will be more rare than the 240sx.
My Skyline is set up to grip the road firmly with love and execution.
If ever the rear tires slip instantly the power will be transferred to the revolving wheel and implement maximum gription.

Have you ever skinned your knee? My Skyline will make you forget about the pain.

My Skyline number one okay!

[Ilya]

Don't worry. My Skyline will be more rare than the 240sx.
My Skyline is set up to grip the road firmly with love and execution.
If ever the rear tires slip instantly the power will be transferred to the revolving wheel and implement maximum gription.

Have you ever skinned your knee? My Skyline will make you forget about the pain.

My Skyline number one okay!

hahah awesome! Japan the best

[LockOn!]

This is kinda why we have the "Doing it wrong" threads now.

People are retarded. Drifting is "hip". Bandwagon blah blah hoonibroswaggots.


I just call people on their shit now. "Dude its drift damage" no, your car is a shit pile and you're too lazy or poor or both to fix it.

[Kalem_s13]

All of this being said is drifting summed up. Japan is the godfather of drifting and their doing it right. I personally love the whole sport of drifting, real drifters will understand the zip ties holding the bumpers on and battle scars. It's all about the love and fun of the sport! But seriously what's the big deal about 240s getting beat? If you have a clean one good for you the price of your car will continue to go up!


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[Sleepiedaze]

All of this being said is drifting summed up. Japan is the godfather of drifting and their doing it right. I personally love the whole sport of drifting, real drifters will understand the zip ties holding the bumpers on and battle scars. It's all about the love and fun of the sport! But seriously what's the big deal about 240s getting beat? If you have a clean one good for you the price of your car will continue to go up!


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:picardfp:240 price going up......i do not want to live on this planet anymore.

[Gar9854]

The beat ones will be passed around between the idiots that don't know how to fix anything or they're broke while the clean ones will stay clean because they're going to be sold back and forth between people who have money and know how to fix things. hell by the time a clean s13 5 grand you can add 3 more to it and have a just as clean hundred percent stock 180 shipped over here Through gtr garage

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

Don't worry. My Skyline will be more rare than the 240sx.
My Skyline is set up to grip the road firmly with love and execution.
If ever the rear tires slip instantly the power will be transferred to the revolving wheel and implement maximum gription.

Have you ever skinned your knee? My Skyline will make you forget about the pain.

My Skyline number one okay!

I've been waiting for an opportunity to use this...
http://i.imgur.com/VOZaZZi.gif

[HORShi]

Am I the only person who looks at drifting as a cool sport, but feels a bit of disgust from the destruction of cars from drifting.

Nope, I feel the same way...

But how many have been totaled up and hacked up just to have parts swapped to a new shell after a bad mishap on the track. I think that in the next 5-6 years it will be a rare car or highly sought after due to the number that are being totaled out and cut up.

A lot bud...too many dumbshits.

I think is the worst when it comes to car destruction from what I am seeing. It is almost like this generation of people proudly flog ripping bumpers off and zip tying panels on as if it is the next cool thing to have (battle scars) on the car and parts missing. I do not feel this is cool. Just wondering if I am the only one that has thoughts about this sort of stuff.

I'm going to be rash...to clear up...drifting is not about crashing into a wall for the hell of it. DRIFTING NEVER, been about crashing, tapping or any of that shit. Drifting is about controlling what seems to be uncontrollable. Not blowing your fender back to kingdom fucking come, or purposely ramming the fuck out of the drifter in front of you and make some crude ass joke (usually sexual) about it. These dumbfucks (my generation) took the "art" out of drifting and more or less it's about getting hard and feeling the "feels" when you make full frontal or rear contact with "the wall".


Don't worry. My Skyline will be more rare than the 240sx.
My Skyline is set up to grip the road firmly with love and execution.
If ever the rear tires slip instantly the power will be transferred to the revolving wheel and implement maximum gription.

Have you ever skinned your knee? My Skyline will make you forget about the pain.

My Skyline number one okay!

My AE86 was descended from the heavens by the great Hachiman. My AE86 is was created to float around corners, evolve with the road in pure harmonious grace. It's like...a dove, who soars into the light. It's like a dolphin, who circumnavigate the seas from pure instinct. A tiger who instantly feels the blood running in it's prey.

You step into my AE86, you will know the purpose of yourself, this world, this universe and the existence of life.

I challenge you, my AE86...your Skyline. Obee. Let's see...who truly is...number one.

[LockOn!]

Real drifters will understand the zip ties holding the bumpers on and battle scars. It's all about the love and fun of the sport! But seriously what's the big deal about 240s getting beat? If you have a clean one good for you the price of your car will continue to go up!


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No, real drifters use quick fixes to get through the day because who the fuck wants to spend 30 minutes properly fitting a bumper at the track. Zip ties and "battle scars" are a reality but should be fixed during down time.

The big deal about cars getting beat is the attitude you just presented. More people with this attitude = more fucked chassis. Period. I don't care how much you "love" the sport. There are a finite about of 80's 90's rwd cars and guess what, they aren't making more anytime soon.

Have some fucking pride in what you drive, Jeeeesus.

[Kalem_s13]

I have much more pride going to the track and doing what I love more than anything else, rather than have a supper clean car that sits in a garage it's whole life. Yes of course the car should be fixed on down time, but drifters make the most out of their body kits and will continue to zip tie them until they are scrap. After you've completely wrecked a body kit and over flares from drifting, you save and buy a whole new kit... Then so on and so on :)

This is just my perspective on drifting, as I'm sure many other drifters have the same. It's pretty hard to completely wreck a car to the point of no return!

For anyone that wants to watch some awesome Japanese drifting :)

Team burst-
http://youtu.be/ohZ4r4_aSuE
http://youtu.be/Exr0AqBq8sU
http://youtu.be/28phKea5Zik
http://youtu.be/KlUjjonGWzQ

Touge drifting
http://youtu.be/-mqXXqB7SBQ




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[HyperTek]

If you wreck and beat your car at the track, thats cool dude.. i think the problem lies with people who intentionally think it looks cool.. and than there are the people who make their cars look like shit (randomly placed stickers, randomly painted wheels (pink, green etc)).

When i got into S chassis, they wheren't missile cars, and the ones that where tracked, didn't look like shit

Feel free to study a tape from 2001 and take notes.
z_u541Ltkiw

[fatduece]

^ That old school drifting is dope as f8ck! Even the new stuff that comes out of japan cant compare :picardfp:

[feito]

that's a video from 01, i wouldnt call it old school.... but yes, I wasn't into cars back then but a lot of stuff was much better back then. I remember not having to own a cellphone for instance...

[solo_ryder]

Cant wait for the swaggot, zip tied, stickered up, intentional POS 240sx trend to be over with. Make room for some REAL builds of people properly restoring their cars. 240sx will be a rarity soon enough. I know s14s are where I live. Few and far between.

[OBEEWON]

I've been waiting for an opportunity to use this...
http://i.imgur.com/VOZaZZi.gif


I accept this honor on the shoulder of my ancestors who are honored by the transcendence of the spirit of chi.



My AE86 was descended from the heavens by the great Hachiman. My AE86 is was created to float around corners, evolve with the road in pure harmonious grace. It's like...a dove, who soars into the light. It's like a dolphin, who circumnavigate the seas from pure instinct. A tiger who instantly feels the blood running in it's prey.

You step into my AE86, you will know the purpose of yourself, this world, this universe and the existence of life.

I challenge you, my AE86...your Skyline. Obee. Let's see...who truly is...number one.


Your challenge to my face will be accept on the point of condition number pronto. Have you the gaul to irradicate your pink hued paper of the ownership of the hachi roku in possesion of your sir name, then surely Mt. Akina will be the meeting place of acceptance of honor defense in the fourth night of the adjacent week today proportionally. My Skyline will be submitting the idle of engine purring on the road side conveniently awaiting opposition. No words required to engage save the dropping of female clothing article to the pavement (preferred article pantaloons or bloomers) to incite the tire smoke and subsequent victory of My Skyline.

My Skyline stands alone.
Your opportunity for victory is assuredly none.
But friends share beverage and handshake after Your Hachi Roku is transferred to my surname.

[Reece]

I have much more pride going to the track and doing what I love more than anything else, rather than have a supper clean car that sits in a garage it's whole life. Yes of course the car should be fixed on down time, but drifters make the most out of their body kits and will continue to zip tie them until they are scrap. After you've completely wrecked a body kit and over flares from drifting, you save and buy a whole new kit... Then so on and so on :)

This is just my perspective on drifting, as I'm sure many other drifters have the same. It's pretty hard to completely wreck a car to the point of no return!

For anyone that wants to watch some awesome Japanese drifting :)

Team burst-
http://youtu.be/ohZ4r4_aSuE
http://youtu.be/Exr0AqBq8sU
http://youtu.be/28phKea5Zik
http://youtu.be/KlUjjonGWzQ

Touge drifting
http://youtu.be/-mqXXqB7SBQ




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So basically you're saying that no one with a clean, nice S chassis actually drifts and you need to have a shitty beat up car to be a true drifter.

You belong in the doing it wrong thread


But friends share beverage and handshake after Your Hachi Roku is transferred to my surname.
dead

[Kalem_s13]

So basically you're saying that no one with a clean, nice S chassis actually drifts and you need to have a shitty beat up car to be a true drifter.

You belong in the doing it wrong thread


dead


See that's when you trip. All you guys are tripping. How often do you see anyone drifting like a complete boss without having battle scars? DK's cars aren't beat because he focuses on high speed drifting, instead of trying to wall ride. This thread should be in the "doing it wrong thread." Quit hating!


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[Bushido]

See that's when you trip. All you guys are tripping. How often do you see anyone drifting like a complete boss without having battle scars? DK's cars aren't beat because he focuses on high speed drifting, instead of trying to wall ride. This thread should be in the "doing it wrong thread." Quit hating!


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plz tell me that by DK, you mean Drift King.

lol:picardfp:

[5280VertDET]

how often do you see anyone drifting like a complete boss without having battle scars? Dk's cars aren't beat because he focuses on high speed drifting, instead of trying to crash into the wall ride. This thread should be in the "doing it wrong thread." quit hating!


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ftfy.........

[LockOn!]

Team burst-




No, no this is fine. This is perfect. This is what the whole world should be like. Your head is in the right place.



THIS is what I hate, although an extreme example:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/28fc2c5d1fb7bd72eb5852db2a1b35f9/tumblr_myrimb3pMt1sltu13o1_1280.jpg


missile brah wall tap spray paint hashtag bullshit

[Kalem_s13]

No, no this is fine. This is perfect. This is what the whole world should be like. Your head is in the right place.



THIS is what I hate, although an extreme example:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/28fc2c5d1fb7bd72eb5852db2a1b35f9/tumblr_myrimb3pMt1sltu13o1_1280.jpg


missile brah wall tap spray paint hashtag bullshit


I agree, that is a complete wreck. No need for that bs!


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[dorkidori_s13]

i hate the american drift scene... its just the worst!



there, i said it.

[Jersthecool]

I agree completely man. Don't get me wrong I enjoy kicking the back end out occasionally and sliding around a bit in a parking lot but I can't stand the multi color, half destroyed "drift cars" especially when they're not even drift cars they're kids daily drivers. I've had many people tell me my car has been the cleanest they've ever seen and I strive to keep it like that. I changed up my front end, bought a body kit and overfenders and once those are installed paint will be the first thing after that, none of this miss-matched color, "baller status because I've got a widebody and a kit" shit.

[fatduece]

OBEEWON what do you call this langauge? :l101: Id like to learn.

[Matej]

This can all be solved by doubling or tripling the cost of drift events. Then all the welfare drifters will not be able to participate anymore.

[fatduece]

I like that idea.

[mudweiser1]

You guys are all a bunch of f-ing whiners get over your selves if you don't like the way poor or lazy people use or abuse their cars then maybe you rich pro active dicks should buy them all up and put them in a garage for you and your friends to come admire from the other side of a velvet rope. I will continue to enjoy my car for what it is. A fun, old, high Mileage, rear wheel drive Toy. Don't like it? Go f ur self.


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[NHTKID]

Hostile words there sir. You sound butt hurt. It also looks as if you joined the forum just to comment in this thread. You should be booted. I like your idea though. Maybe people who truly care should buy them all up. I do think the higher cost of events will deff weed them out at least to an extent. Unfortunatley any motorsport will naturally cause some sort of damage. However, that doesn't yield an excuse to keep it a pos at the end of the season or in down time. The problem is that they are affordable for "first cars" most of which are 16-18y/o and do terrible things because its "cool" and are used as dailys/missles.

[dorkidori_s13]

You guys are all a bunch of f-ing whiners get over your selves if you don't like the way poor or lazy people use or abuse their cars then maybe you rich pro active dicks should buy them all up and put them in a garage for you and your friends to come admire from the other side of a velvet rope. I will continue to enjoy my car for what it is. A fun, old, high Mileage, rear wheel drive Toy. Don't like it? Go f ur self.


im not rich, i just know how to manage my money and how to keep my car from turning into a piece of shit... :keke::keke::keke:

[all show no go]

The hay-day of the U.S. Drift community has surely come & long gone. In the days where people, (for what it's worth) took pride in making a nice looking & well built car. Emulating japanese style used to be the cool thing to do because it was the only thing around at that time. (Early D1GP in the U.S.)

Now that it's gone, most people who knew it then & owned s chassis have more or less moved on. Today there are tons of people just getting into it, who just #aintcare because most places where drifting is presented, it just isn't inline with japanese style. (Formula D, youtube clips of self proclaimed hoonigans, ken block, and energy drinks, etc) From there it goes down it's own new road with new trends, stlying & attitude altogether.

Plus some people are just born to love looking shitty.

[dorkidori_s13]

^^^ pretty much ALL of what you just said :)

[solo_ryder]

Haters gonna hate though right?

Pfff

I will be smiling ear to ear on the day when I cruise in my s14 and not see another 240 that has been "missled" out as there are no 240s left to do such a thing. Threads like this show that this trend is starting to die now, which is a good thing

[mudweiser1]

I did in fact join this forum not long ago, mostly to learn from people who have been around 240's a lot longer than I have. It's nice to be able to have other people's experience to help me along. That being said, most 240 owners think they have a pot of gold when all they really have is a late 80 to mid 90 wore out, run down, hacked on pos. it's an awesomely fun car to drive for what it is, an old beater. Mine was a trade in at the dealer where I work. Blown head, massive oil leaks, and all the usual electrical and trim problems. It was heading to the junk yard if I hadn't bought it. Driving cars like this is supposed to be fun. it's hard to have fun with out causing some damage, weather it be body or mechanical. Some times I'm gonna break stuff that's just the way it is. I'm not ashamed my bumper doesn't fit quite right cause i will prolly get rear ended on the way to work by one of you while your texting onto the way to work tomorrow.


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[dbeiler]

Oh good. Another anti-drift/savethe240 thread.

I knew what drifting was long before I even knew what a 240sx was. The ONLY reason I bought a 240 was to drift it. If I ever decide to give up drifting, I will immediately rid myself of anything 240 related. There are many newer, more comfortable, maintenance free, modern sports cars to choose from. Why would I continue to drive an outdated, outdated, expensive to maintain, outdated, '90s, coupe? I have a great job, don't need to be daily driving around like I'm living in poverty.

So why did I choose the 240 as my drift platform? Simple financial reasons. They cost less than a months rent! When I eventually ram a 240 into the wall hard enough to kill the frame, I can strip my 20K of parts and bolt everything onto the next victim 240. A drift-totaled 240 will set me back only a grand, whereas a wrecked 370z/RX-7/FR-S would be a loss of 10K plus.

I'm sure my forged wheels will survive. The baller wheel circle-jerk fellas tell me cast Rota/XXR/Varrstoen wheels will shatter like thin glass, but forged wheels provide ABS braking, weather control, zero gravity, time reversion, and survival of a nuclear holocaust. My Isis suspension arms, on the other hand, will allegedly spontaneously combust and kill everyone present.

These cars are staying on the road MUCH longer than other vehicles. When did you last see an '89 Cavalier on the street? '89 Eclipse? How about an '89 Accord? 240s aren't being scrapped at the first wall tap. If the front or rear end gets eternally compromised (to the point of halving the cars overall length) the damaged section gets chopped off, tubed, new overfenders, new bodykit, then drive, crash, repeat.

If anyone is opposed to the missile crisis club, they can simply buy a Rustang or Slowmaro. You don't see drift damage on those things; if they even attempt to corner on throttle, they get sliced in half by the nearest oak tree. Next stop, car crusher.

Some people need to give up their binky, blankie, and 'Love can last forever' attitude. People are born, live life to the fullest, then they DIE! I'm starting a new moment called "Ethical 240 treatment"

CARS DESERVE TO DIE TOO!!!

[TheNigguh_Danny]

walked in to autozone for something, the cashier found out I had a 240 & he said "I want one so I can drift missile it" smh

[NHTKID]

I did in fact join this forum not long ago, mostly to learn from people who have been around 240's a lot longer than I have. It's nice to be able to have other people's experience to help me along. That being said, most 240 owners think they have a pot of gold when all they really have is a late 80 to mid 90 wore out, run down, hacked on pos. it's an awesomely fun car to drive for what it is, an old beater. Mine was a trade in at the dealer where I work. Blown head, massive oil leaks, and all the usual electrical and trim problems. It was heading to the junk yard if I hadn't bought it. Driving cars like this is supposed to be fun. it's hard to have fun with out causing some damage, weather it be body or mechanical. Some times I'm gonna break stuff that's just the way it is. I'm not ashamed my bumper doesn't fit quite right cause i will prolly get rear ended on the way to work by one of you while your texting onto the way to work tomorrow.

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Whether*




I'm sure my forged wheels will survive. The baller wheel circle-jerk fellas tell me cast Rota/XXR/Varrstoen wheels will shatter like thin glass, but forged wheels provide ABS braking, weather control, zero gravity, time reversion, and survival of a nuclear holocaust. My Isis suspension arms, on the other hand, will allegedly spontaneously combust and kill everyone present.

The only truth in what you said. Also no one wants to share a moment with you. If you meant, "movement" then you are in luck because Hoonigans exist. Someone beat you to it.

On a serious note, you are right. Your baller forged wheels will do all of those things. My baller wheels like to seek out and tbag rotas and the like. I've seen it.

[OBEEWON]

OBEEWON what do you call this langauge? :l101: Id like to learn.

It's called I can't take anything on Zilvia seriously anymore language. Hang around a tad bit longer and we will be conversing in it fluently.

[2muchboost]

^^^^LMAO dude i swear you are one of the only reasons I am still on this forum.

[10psitx]

[QUOTE=dbeiler;5802893]Oh good. Another anti-drift/savethe240 thread.

You are quite right in your response, 240's are relatively cheap and that you don't need to have the most expensive or best looking "drift car/setup" to drift....but on the other hand 240's are also quite capable and reliable cars that Can be daily driven if they are maintained (as normal car's are) and did not fall in the hands of the drift afficianado's like yourself....as you stated in your rant "These cars are staying on the road MUCH longer than other vehicles"...I agree 100% with that as well. Now saying that one would expect to see drift cars on the the track drifting and such...and see fine looking and working examples being driven on the streets. This is not the case, what one typically see's is a 240sx that does not belong on the street and would be questionably on a track being driven as a dailyand the owner complains that the car is unrelaible because "its old and out dated"...therein lies the issue.

[O$mo]

Have you the gaul to irradicate your pink hued paper of the ownership of the hachi roku in possesion of your sir name,

It's called I can't take anything on Zilvia seriously anymore language. Hang around a tad bit longer and we will be conversing in it fluently.

I lol'd:keke:

[HORShi]

CARS DESERVE TO DIE TOO!!!

My 240 and AE86 is immortal.

I accept this honor on the shoulder of my ancestors who are honored by the transcendence of the spirit of chi.




Your challenge to my face will be accept on the point of condition number pronto. Have you the gaul to irradicate your pink hued paper of the ownership of the hachi roku in possesion of your sir name, then surely Mt. Akina will be the meeting place of acceptance of honor defense in the fourth night of the adjacent week today proportionally. My Skyline will be submitting the idle of engine purring on the road side conveniently awaiting opposition. No words required to engage save the dropping of female clothing article to the pavement (preferred article pantaloons or bloomers) to incite the tire smoke and subsequent victory of My Skyline.

My Skyline stands alone.
Your opportunity for victory is assuredly none.
But friends share beverage and handshake after Your Hachi Roku is transferred to my surname.

Ha! The great Obee, your self-confidence, is warranted. The riveting thought of facing the legendary skyline sends a...erotic, sensual feeling through my blood.

But when the sun descends over the celestial beautiful peak of Mt. Akina, it's I, my 4A-GE 20 Valve, forged piston, 12,000RPM tofu-inline cross feed hyper injection Hachi that shall leave the enchanting rich smell of rubber...and sour beans. Your name, will ring of defeat through the roaring winding roads of the Akina pass. May I advocate, we invite our Zilvian brothers, to view from the birds eye and witness the spectacular defeat of Obee, The Great. I shall not fear, your Skyline...As I, my AE86, the mythical tofu-rocket, will guide me to a immense victory and the first to conquer...The Skyline.

The fourth night approaches...showdown it will be. Forever live...the tofu rocket burner, my AE86.

[fatduece]

Augh....OBEEWON....I feel like the minut you and the rest of the OG's leave, I'll be by my self trying to out live this apacolyps.

[OBEEWON]

This doesn't have to be the case.
Once we smite all the meatfaced heathens from the face of the internet we can rest once again in peace on our laurels and pass the time with tales of our gallivants with white women and their sisters.

Horshi

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_logxw2QbRO1r03vjuo1_250.gif

[fatduece]

Sounds like a plan.

[Z_Spool]

...our laurels...

Wait, a Laurel? I thought you had a Skyline?:tardrim:

[OBEEWON]

lol touche.

[Matej]

The hay-day of the U.S. Drift community has surely come & long gone. In the days where people, (for what it's worth) took pride in making a nice looking & well built car. Emulating japanese style used to be the cool thing to do because it was the only thing around at that time. (Early D1GP in the U.S.)

Now that it's gone, most people who knew it then & owned s chassis have more or less moved on. Today there are tons of people just getting into it, who just #aintcare because most places where drifting is presented, it just isn't inline with japanese style. (Formula D, youtube clips of self proclaimed hoonigans, ken block, and energy drinks, etc) From there it goes down it's own new road with new trends, stlying & attitude altogether.
Drifting is pretty much dead. We are just riding out the last wave of uncool kids who were too late to jump on the bandwagon and thus due to having no deep-rooted connection to the glory days they will only serve as the nails in the coffin in which I sleep during daylight before I feed.

[blackmags91]

^Drifting is dead?
Maybe in Kansas City

[LockOn!]

You guys are all a bunch of f-ing whiners get over your selves if you don't like the way poor or lazy people use or abuse their cars then maybe you rich pro active dicks should buy them all up and put them in a garage for you and your friends to come admire from the other side of a velvet rope. I will continue to enjoy my car for what it is. A fun, old, high Mileage, rear wheel drive Toy. Don't like it? Go f ur self.


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https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7p5b8uHUX1rqfhi2o1_500.gif

I bet your cars a beater and you suck a driving. :fawk2:

This thread sucks I'm ooooooooout

[Matej]

^Drifting is dead?
Maybe in Kansas City
Indeed, it stopped being cool here years ago. Get with the times, Phoenix.

[HORShi]

Drifting is pretty much dead. We are just riding out the last wave of uncool kids who were too late to jump on the bandwagon and thus due to having no deep-rooted connection to the glory days they will only serve as the nails in the coffin in which I sleep during daylight before I feed.

Hmm, Drifting is far from dead. If anything, drifting have expanded and grown to a level that almost everyone including there grandmothers know about drifting. Have you seen the recent commercials featuring drifting? Like BMW or Ford?

Drifting is growing a consistent and steady rate I would say...BUT, it's heading down a real shitty mainstream path. To paraphrase what you just said, drifting of today has truly lost it's deep rooted connection to the glory days, not just the kids...but the culture, the cars, EVERYTHING damn near. It seems that anything America touches, we got to find a way to either 1) Make it Americanized (Like are push for democracy for other countries) or 2) Make a profit off it, and take it mainstream. SMDH, just can't leave shit alone or as is. :picardfp:

This doesn't have to be the case.
Once we smite all the meatfaced heathens from the face of the internet we can rest once again in peace on our laurels and pass the time with tales of our gallivants with white women and their sisters.

Horshi



lol haha. Alright I'm done man. I was bored at work and there is nothing interesting on Zilvia currently, besides the doing it wrong thread (which is ugh).

I bet your cars a beater and you suck a driving. :fawk2:

This thread sucks I'm ooooooooout

lol I feel like this thread is going to get closed soon. Unless something happens interesting...:coolugh:

[Matej]

Hmm, Drifting is far from dead. If anything, drifting have expanded and grown to a level that almost everyone including there grandmothers know about drifting. Have you seen the recent commercials featuring drifting? Like BMW or Ford?
Exactly. It peaked in high school and has been on a downward spiral ever since. There may be tons of people doing it, but only as a fad or for all the wrong reasons, and those people will move onto the next cool thing as soon as the hip elitist crowd tells them what it is.
Kind of how Facebook has been steadily losing its younger user base and 'cool' status ever since everyone's grandmother learned of it and BMW and Ford flooded it with drifting commercials.

[HORShi]

Exactly. It peaked in high school and has been on a downward spiral ever since. There may be tons of people doing it, but only as a fad, and those people will move onto the next cool thing as soon as the hip elitist crowd tells them what it is.
Kind of how Facebook has been steadily losing its younger user base and 'cool' status ever since everyone's grandmother learned of it and BMW and Ford flooded it with commercials.

Aha, I see what your saying now. In that case, yes I strongly concur. It's also all these phasers, hipsters, fad-goers, swaggots (which ever you choice of terminology) who is also bringing the s-chassis and a lot other 90s cars to scarcity.

Well in theory at least....once this fad passes, it should return back to "normal", as it will begin to lose it's luster and WOW effect. Thus, leaving the drift world back for the real enthusiast to claim back. Of course this in theory...I feel like this is not going to be the case unfortunately. But I will remain optimistic and say it will.

[ixfxi]

CARS DESERVE TO DIE TOO!!!

so do you

fortunately for me, my 240 has been in cryo freeze for the past decade. while all you retards figure out the best way to wrap an s-chassis around a tree, i will be one of the few enjoying my 140HP SOHC automatic BEAST.

People are going to wonder in awe when they see my motorized seatbelts.

ps: my skyline is faster than everything you all own

[mudweiser1]

so do you



fortunately for me, my 240 has been in cryo freeze for the past decade. while all you retards figure out the best way to wrap an s-chassis around a tree, i will be one of the few enjoying my 140HP SOHC automatic BEAST.



People are going to wonder in awe when they see my motorized seatbelts.



ps: my skyline is faster than everything you all own


Why didn't you sell your 240 to buy your skyline like all the other proud 240 owners have and are currently doing?

Ps: make sure you put the skyline right next to the 240 in your shed so you don't accidentally have fun driving it one day.


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[fatduece]

so do you

fortunately for me, my 240 has been in cryo freeze for the past decade. while all you retards figure out the best way to wrap an s-chassis around a tree, i will be one of the few enjoying my 140HP SOHC automatic BEAST.

People are going to wonder in awe when they see my motorized seatbelts.

ps: my skyline is faster than everything you all own LOl.



Well in theory at least....once this fad passes, it should return back to "normal", as it will begin to lose it's luster and WOW effect. Thus, leaving the drift world back for the real enthusiast to claim back. Of course this in theory...I feel like this is not going to be the case unfortunately. But I will remain optimistic and say it will. God....I hope your theory comes true. I can only hope.

[all show no go]

Exactly. It peaked in high school and has been on a downward spiral ever since. There may be tons of people doing it, but only as a fad or for all the wrong reasons, and those people will move onto the next cool thing as soon as the hip elitist crowd tells them what it is.
Kind of how Facebook has been steadily losing its younger user base and 'cool' status ever since everyone's grandmother learned of it and BMW and Ford flooded it with drifting commercials.

QFT, it isn't the same as is was. When you have AT, multicolored, battered and beaten cars for sale for over 3,500 based on the owner's promise of "potential" it has, you know that it's really over.

[Steve15]

Remember the days when drifting was sponsored by actual aftermarket supporters, (HKS, Tomei, etc) and not engery drinks? I bet you don't because I'm sure that never happened in America.

I agree s-chassis are slowly dying off. Living in Japan with the American Military community I can't tell you how cars I've seen get bought by some boot and then a month later ends up in a junk yard because they thought they could "drift". I think the direct corralation to s-chassis extinction is not so much drifting, but the stupidity of the owners. Everyone now a days have the mindset of "it's broken, junk it and buy a new one".

[Phlip]

Threads like this remind me of a couple months ago...
"That your 240?"
"it's in front of my house"
"is it for sale"
"no"
"not for ANY amount of money?"
"what're you offering? And those Equips are genuine"
"I dunno, what's fair? What have you done to it? Can I look over it first?"
"Yeah, lemme get the key"
*slams door and never opens it*
Next time this kid knocks on my door, he will speak with my 12 gauge.

[Matej]

Threads like this remind me of a couple months ago...
"That your 240?"
"it's in front of my house"
"is it for sale"
"no"
"not for ANY amount of money?"
"what're you offering? And those Equips are genuine"
"I dunno, what's fair? What have you done to it? Can I look over it first?"
"Yeah, lemme get the key"
*slams door and never opens it*
Next time this kid knocks on my door, he will speak with my 12 gauge.
Ha. A couple of years ago an acquaintance and I were sitting at a petrol station nearby his S13. Some crones came by and asked us if the 'drift car' belongs to one of us. My friend said no, and they proceeded to walk around it spewing off the usual opinionated internet genius knowledge, waiting on the owner of the car to show up. After a few minutes we casually got in and left. Their expressions were fantastic.

[Loomis112]

I dd my s13 and am learning how to drift, I am not proud that I tapped a wall and I would really love to get it fixed.

But you see I work at O'reilys and I don't make enough in a month to buy the sand paper needed....

I absolutely hate beat up S chassis and the owners that are proud I feel like people think that's how I am because of my incident and not because I am too broke.

[Steve15]

There is nothing wrong with crashing, or breaking shit while learning to drift. One of my first times drifting I spun out and put my 15 on a pole completely destroying the rear end. But I got it fixed and I'm currently building it up. Crashes make better drivers. I have issues with those people who crash or wreck then just throw the car away even if it's perfectly fine driving wise. I like to think of it this way...Never trust someone with a clean car; they are either amazing drivers and never crash, or they do not drive at all.

[ixfxi]

I never crashed any of my cars. Maybe because I was raised with the thought and fear that if I fucked up my car, my dad would beat the living fucking shit out of me. So I've always been very careful, even though I drive like a motherfucker. The only mistakes I have made were an occasional spin-out and that was during my first couple years of driving.

Anyone who owns and drives a RWD has immediate respect for the drivetrain. If they dont, they'll end up fucking their car up.

If you want to NOT be a dumbass and plan on driving like Tsuchiya, do it at the fucking track. Years and years of fun canyon racing and never once a crash. If you cant understand limits, numb nuts should stick to FWD/AWD.

ps: holy shit, phlip still posts here? haha

[silviasandbeer]

i crashed once. i was backing out the driveway in my moms car and hit my uncles truck. cracked her tail light lens. damn, she was pissed

i plan on picking up drifting for fun.. but it'll be with a '95 mustang
too many 240s getting fucked up, intensional or not.
id feel too bad

any one seen the youtube vid posted in the 2tone preservation thread where he lights a christmas tree on fire and jumps over it in a 2tone and slams into a pile of wood or something
i don't get shit like that and i never will. why do people think thats funny.. a 240sx is an enthusiast car with plenty of potential.

accidents happen. miscalculations happen. no ones perfect. but to go into a motor sport with the mentality of "fuck it, its a missile and thats what these cars are for anyway" is stupid and irresponsible .

like god damn have some respect. the SR put out numbers 20+ years ago that are respected by todays standards
hyandai genisis turbo = 250 hp
s14 sr20= 217 ?
(correct me if I'm wrong)



hi phlip

[mechanicalmoron]

Drifting can be pretty cool, when it's done right.

For the most part, it's trash culture, perpetuated by stupid fucks who can't drive and don't deserve to touch so much as a smart car.

It doesn't need to be the greatest car ever to be great at specific stuff - being a rwd sports car doesn't just mean drift, it means it's an actual sporty car capable of actual spirited/sporty/controlled driving - it's too bad that a combination of drifting and an irrational obsession with parting out every 240 ever made will kill them all - and when there's just a few, all the things that make it a great car and fun to work on will be gone (that is, aftermarket support, knowhow, innovation, availible parts, etc).

And not being the greatest car ever doesn't mean even one deserves to be cut up when it has not been totaled.

The problem seems to be that 240 guys are often not real car guys - they're posers looking for obnoxious ways to get attention. They don't love cars, plain and simple - they love attention.

This is not to say that trashy can't be classy - love a good ratrod, or original/unrestored car that is repaired as it's necessary to make it function - but that's a far cry from what's done to 240s.

[BossHogg]

Drifting was cool in USA that one time when the Japanese guys came over. It was uncool when they left. We did the typical American thing. Turned things into a douche fest. We wonder why the whole world hates our arrogant douchetastic asses. We ruin shit lol. ANYONE who was around before the craze already new this would happen. Many left before it started because they couldn't stand to watch it happen in front of their own eyes. It was cool for a brief second, the japanese brands became available from whole salers etc. You could order cool shit from Jspec and panda garage. But a few, proud kids/young adults stuck with it. They didn't let the new Fast N Furious nut swingers change their minds. They new what could be created and what a 240 should look and be built like. The majority consume, the minority creates.

[Z_Spool]

drifting.














drifting.

[bataangpinoy]

Shut up already with the Japan vs USA, drifting was once cool in the USA rhetoric.

Drifting sucks because its easily accessible to a wide range of people. Its cheap to build a drift car (yes, you can build a cheap drift car that doesn't suck. 8k is cheap.), Entrance fees are fucking cheap, most tech and safety rules are lax, and your cost of tires can be cheap if you use cheap (or free) tires. When I see people complaining about the cost of entry to a drift event, I laugh.

A winter auto-x at Lime Rock Park is 300 bucks, on packed snow. Hows that for entrance fees?

Moreover, if you make drifting less accessible, (i.e. tighten up tech and safety) you'd shy away the broke boys. and it would cease to suck.
For example; NJ state police wants to make it such that anyone racing on dirt or tarmac is required to wear a HANS device. This may now also apply to drifting. A "cheap" HANS device is about 500 bucks.

[derek king]

So this thread is actually serious?

[derek king]

OP please answer Y/N?! circle oone pls anser soon. Spooked if serios

[mastadon]

Yeah they are getting more hard to find in clean condition, but they won't be considered "rare" for another 20-30 years. Thinking about how few ae86s there are compared to 240s, yet the AE chassis isn't even "rare".

I agree with the fact that the American drifting scene sucks. I know it's fun all, but the scene that has evolved is terrible. It's sad that it's almost embarrassing to tell people I own a 240 because they automatically assume it's some ratty piece of shit, and I am some douchey honnigan fuck face drifter, both of which could be further from the truth.

[SaUcEy]

If people are having fun with it, whats the matter? Thats what modding cars is all about anyway right?

Im fine with it to be honest. If anything, having a clean 240 now a days is as rare as seeing a MK IV Supra or clean FD. Obviously Im Nissan biased over here, but in FD world, clean ones are common, in 240 world, clean ones are not. So its cooler to me to see one proper.

[CrimsonRockett]

Drifting or not, all I would really want is for people to care for what they drive. A lot of friends don't tandem with certain people because "missile, brah". You don't go out to the track to purposely bash your car. Accidents happen.

Rare to see something like this come up for sale.

http://images.craigslist.org/00M0M_khA0tc4v9mZ_600x450.jpg

[derek king]

The scene isn't really bad, yall dorks are just hanging with a bunch of spongers.

[LockOn!]

There is nothing wrong with crashing, or breaking shit while learning to drift. One of my first times drifting I spun out and put my 15 on a pole completely destroying the rear end. But I got it fixed and I'm currently building it up. Crashes make better drivers. I have issues with those people who crash or wreck then just throw the car away even if it's perfectly fine driving wise. I like to think of it this way...Never trust someone with a clean car; they are either amazing drivers and never crash, or they do not drive at all.

Came back in to say this is horse shit.

20 something events, 4 different tracks, NEVER FUCKING CRASHED.

And I'm not saying I'm a good driver or have a high skill level at all.

Drive within your limit, find it, push it. Its really fucking easy not to crash. Crashes don't make better drivers, you're outside of your limit, you're not learning shit, you're just flailing your car around like a retard.
Driving within your limit, taking the time to understand what your doing, then doing it better makes better drivers.

OP please answer Y/N?! circle oone pls anser soon. Spooked if serios


Y/ (M) /N


¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Drifting or not, all I would really want is for people to care for what they drive.



This is really it. I've noticed the 4wheeling bros invading the local community and really fucking shit up. Some of them get it, I actually really like a few of them, but most just bring the same "smash everything lol" mentality :down:

[LockOn!]

Doublepostfailplzdelete

[mastadon]

This is really it. I've noticed the 4wheeling bros invading the local community and really fucking shit up. Some of them get it, I actually really like a few of them, but most just bring the same "smash everything lol" mentality :down:

This is really true. Drifting is the new broke white trash "Motorsport"

[derek king]

sounds like a cali problem.

[supersayianjim]

wtf is a hans device? fucking nj always looking for a handout!!

[mechanicalmoron]

I don't get the broke hate.

Some of us are broke - we still like having fun.

Having a lot of money doesn't make you inherently respect stuff, in fact it often does the opposite - you can just afford to be a douche with shiny stuff.

The problem is douches, not having cars accessible to lots of people. I want cars accessible to lots of responsible people, such that we have a voice when it comes to irrational regulations that hurt us (ie. needing carb stamps on your crap, even when your car passess the sniffer, which should be all that matters). It's really hard to argue against that when all the people in your community are either assholes who just want to break everything, or too rich to care, because they'll just erod it or whatever (and since rules effectively just don't apply to people with money).

[SaUcEy]

^ This. !

[CrimsonRockett]

I don't get the broke hate.

Some of us are broke - we still like having fun.

Having a lot of money doesn't make you inherently respect stuff, in fact it often does the opposite - you can just afford to be a douche with shiny stuff.

The problem is douches, not having cars accessible to lots of people. I want cars accessible to lots of responsible people, such that we have a voice when it comes to irrational regulations that hurt us (ie. needing carb stamps on your crap, even when your car passess the sniffer, which should be all that matters). It's really hard to argue against that when all the people in your community are either assholes who just want to break everything, or too rich to care, because they'll just erod it or whatever (and since rules effectively just don't apply to people with money).

I've met plenty of people over the years who have built better cars on low budgets than people with deep pockets.

Having come from a low income family myself, I definitely understand what it's like to prioritize. You also learn very early on to not daily drive a project if it's your only method of transportation.

People seem to appreciate a car more that they've built themselves as opposed to having a shop put it all together for them.

In my personal opinion, threads like "You're doing it wrong" really need to go away. We spend more time focusing on and criticizing people who are "doing it wrong" instead of focusing on bettering ourselves and the community as a whole.

Just my :2c:.

[derek king]

That thread if full of dweebs that aren't doing anything right themselves. Hilarious tho.

Hello Pot meet Kettle... you pleb nerds.

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

So this thread is actually serious?

Everything on Zilvia is serious.



Not trying to keep the save the s-chassis circle jerk going, but what's a bummer is that due to the surge of "ain't cares/hoonigans/driftbros/whatevers" the aftermarket is being saturated with cheap parts that cater to the mad skids crowd.

Maybe some of us dudes want an aftermarket solution for our worn out window switches, our dry rotted weather stripping, or all the haggard dashes. But nope, that's not happening anytime soon.

[dorkidori_s13]

Maybe some of us dudes want an aftermarket solution for...haggard dashes. But nope, that's not happening anytime soon.

i plan on doing something about this within the next year or two... but that means people actually need to start BUYING my stuff again so i can fund the project!!!

[silviasandbeer]

i plan on doing something about this within the next year or two... but that means people actually need to start BUYING my stuff again so i can fund the project!!!

i buy sticker, k

[Future240]

Everything on Zilvia is serious.



Not trying to keep the save the s-chassis circle jerk going, but what's a bummer is that due to the surge of "ain't cares/hoonigans/driftbros/whatevers" the aftermarket is being saturated with cheap parts that cater to the mad skids it's incrowd.

Maybe some of us dudes want an aftermarket solution for our worn out window switches, our dry rotted weather stripping, or all the haggard dashes. But nope, that's not happening anytime soon.

I know what you mean. People look at me crazy when I tell them I am not going to put a cheap ass eBay exhaust on my NA KA. Is like why all the kids are putting shitty eBay calls on the car, I'm over here dreaming about replacing the weather stripping in my truck with all new rubber.

[5280VertDET]

... I'm over here dreaming about replacing the weather stripping in my truck with all new rubber.


MMMMMM.... new weather stripping...

I am hoping I have the patience to keep mine until the industry caters to restorations/replacement parts like my old '66 C10... You can literally build a brand new truck from rep OEM parts... Not saying I need a magazine FULL of parts, but yeah, little things would nice.

It will be a tough 5-10 years to see what happens to the S-chassis from 'drifting', whether Hoonibros will grow up and gain or grow into an appreciation and not "wall ride" every 240 into the ground, therefore there will be replacement parts for the "normal" stuff on a 25+ chassis or companies will stop parts (cheap or otherwise) entirely because there is no more market.

But I doubt it will be the former....

[KiLLeR2001]

I drive my S13 only a few times a month now. Slowly the drift missiles are being weeded out and within the next 4-5 years we should be left with just the enthusiast 240sx owners with their respectable cars. I would estimate around 20,000 240sx remaining in the USA at that time.

[silviaks2nr]

I drive my S13 only a few times a month now. Slowly the drift missiles are being weeded out and within the next 4-5 years we should be left with just the enthusiast 240sx owners with their respectable cars. I would estimate around 20,000 240sx remaining in the USA at that time.

and 19,000 of those will have ls swaps.

[winter]

and 19,000 of those will have ls swaps.

And 1,500 of them actually run

[slideslidegnarslide]

^^^ and the remainder will have 1js.

[Future240]

As an owner of an authentic kouki I can honestly say I have no interest in either a 2jz or LS. My car looks like shit in my opinion and I'm not proud of it. That is why it is NEVER photographed. I want to restore it to like it was when it rolled off the line and be powered with a Nissan built engine.

[solo_ryder]

As an owner of an authentic kouki I can honestly say I have no interest in either a 2jz or LS. My car looks like shit in my opinion and I'm not proud of it. That is why it is NEVER photographed. I want to restore it to like it was when it rolled off the line and be powered with a Nissan built engine.

Amen. No shame in having a nissan powerplant.

[winter]

^^^ and the remainder will have 1js.

Ironically, I was going to go SR20 with my build, but I just got done having a RX7 FC SR20, and wanted to try something i6 turbo. Never had one. My daily is a Legacy GT turbo 4 cylinder, so I get my 4bang fix there lol. I still have urges to build another SR motor, but will see how I feel after this 1JZ. Oh yes, I will be continuing the drifting with it.

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

MMMMMM.... new weather stripping...

I am hoping I have the patience to keep mine until the industry caters to restorations/replacement parts like my old '66 C10... You can literally build a brand new truck from rep OEM parts... Not saying I need a magazine FULL of parts, but yeah, little things would nice.

It will be a tough 5-10 years to see what happens to the S-chassis from 'drifting', whether Hoonibros will grow up and gain or grow into an appreciation and not "wall ride" every 240 into the ground, therefore there will be replacement parts for the "normal" stuff on a 25+ chassis or companies will stop parts (cheap or otherwise) entirely because there is no more market.

But I doubt it will be the former....


We're not where the money is. :-/

[silviaks2nr]

Buy one now and hold on to it. I've had mine for 11 years and I know there's absolutely no chance I'd ever find another 98 non sunroof 5spd car in similar condition.

[Thor88]

I just bought an extremely clean single owner S14 with plans of doing a mild restore/DD build.

If one more HOONI-BRO asks me if I'm gonna drift I'm selling the thing for a fucking Prius

[Future240]

^u gone drifff that thing bro?
Time for a Prius


I hate the "do you drift" question. Like it is the only thing S-chassis are good for.

Personally, I am much more interested in building a togue car than a drift machine.

[fatduece]

I drive my S13 only a few times a month now. Slowly the drift missiles are being weeded out and within the next 4-5 years we should be left with just the enthusiast 240sx owners with their respectable cars. I would estimate around 20,000 240sx remaining in the USA at that time. are you factoring in the imported s-chassis? Ive seen some nice examples of schassis that have nice mods that could be imported for 9k!!

and 19,000 of those will have ls swaps.f*CK! THe ls. Im tired of seeing that motor in a import.

[drewc]

I have to say that my coupe will be the one car that I hang on to. It isn't in the greatest shape that it could be in due to previous owners. I actually purchased it on the forums about a year ago. I take pride in knowing that in a few years, It will be rare to see a clean one that is remotely in decent shape and mine will still be on the road. It gets old going to car meets and seeing everyone have the same cars or same style. I am slowly fixing stuff that is messed up and upgrading stuff on the car when I get time. I would eventually like to pick up a kouki also. I read through the thread yesterday and yes this is a (serious thread). Apparently I am not the only person that feels this way based off the comments that it is receiving.

[Bushido]

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[HeyGirlHeyyy]

If one more HOONI-BRO asks me if I'm gonna drift I'm selling the thing for a fucking Prius

Eh, who cares? I'm not going to let someone else influence what I want to drive.

^u gone drifff that thing bro?
Time for a Prius


I hate the "do you drift" question. Like it is the only thing S-chassis are good for.

Personally, I am much more interested in building a togue car than a drift machine.


"But bro, togue is Japanese for drift, bro."

[Steve15]

20 something events, 4 different tracks, NEVER FUCKING CRASHED.


I always forget that people drift on tracks. We don't have any tracks in Okinawa anymore. All our drifting is done on the streets or in the mountains somewhere.

[derek king]

"True 240 enthusiasts" wow the douche chills are strong with that.

[ilikeboost]

But when the sun descends over the celestial beautiful peak of Mt. Akina, it's I, my 4A-GE 20 Valve, forged piston, 12,000RPM tofu-inline cross feed hyper injection Hachi that shall leave the enchanting rich smell of rubber...and sour beans. Your name, will ring of defeat through the roaring winding roads of the Akina pass. May I advocate, we invite our Zilvian brothers, to view from the birds eye and witness the spectacular defeat of Obee, The Great. I shall not fear, your Skyline...As I, my AE86, the mythical tofu-rocket, will guide me to a immense victory and the first to conquer...The Skyline.

The fourth night approaches...showdown it will be. Forever live...the tofu rocket burner, my AE86.

:kiss: My hero. Don't ever blow that engine again though, you'll miss your early morning deliveries.

[zfortune]

I bought a 240sx to daily and once in a while take it to auto-x events. And I personally love the stock chuki look on hatchbacks too. I am currently cutting and replacing driver rocker panel and hood ledge because previous owner liked to hide shit with tons of bondo.... Also replaced fenders and front bumper because they were trash to..

[KiLLeR2001]

are you factoring in the imported s-chassis? Ive seen some nice examples of schassis that have nice mods that could be imported for 9k!!


No, which is why I said 240sx.

[dizzariot]

This is kinda why we have the "Doing it wrong" threads now.

People are retarded. Drifting is "hip". Bandwagon blah blah hoonibroswaggots.


I just call people on their shit now. "Dude its drift damage" no, your car is a shit pile and you're too lazy or poor or both to fix it.


...I'd just like to point out that you're still using my word and I appreciate you spreading the joy. You better be sure to mention my username after every use or else I'll have to charge you the standard $5 fee per usage.

:kiss:

[Bushido]

Does anyone have access to registration numbers for the different years/models of 240sx in the USA?

There were 94,000 1989-1998 240sx registered in 2011... I wonder what it is today, surely thousands have been destroyed in the past 3-4 years.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=410908

[dbeiler]

Does anyone have access to registration numbers for the different years/models of 240sx in the USA?

There were 94,000 1989-1998 240sx registered in 2011... I wonder what it is today, surely thousands have been destroyed in the past 3-4 years.

That's an interesting question. Registration numbers won't include the track queens and garage queens, though. Neither of mine are registered.

[fatduece]

Does anyone have access to registration numbers for the different years/models of 240sx in the USA?

There were 94,000 1989-1998 240sx registered in 2011... I wonder what it is today, surely thousands have been destroyed in the past 3-4 years.

Oooo! If someone could find out that would awesome. Also 94k is a lot for a car you don't see all that often.

[derek king]

lol. RARITY of 240sx from drifting.

[crzsteveo]

Oooo! If someone could find out that would awesome. Also 94k is a lot for a car you don't see all that often.

94 thousand 3 years ago, then boom drifto bro trend. thousand mores lost, crushed, tracked, blown up, caught fire, battleship sunk, napalmed, you name it....its happened.. I bet less than 60 thousand are still registered, clean titles, and streetable.

[mechanicalmoron]

I always forget that people drift on tracks. We don't have any tracks in Okinawa anymore. All our drifting is done on the streets or in the mountains somewhere.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a track is just a street that people like you are not allowed on...

We don't have tracks here either - we do have great mountain roads - don't drift, but never wrecked my 240, and have probably driven it a lot more than you, on much more mountainous roads, much faster - I fail to see how wrecking it would have made me a better driver - or anything other than a dead driver.

The idea that you have to wreck to get better is self-serving excuse bullshit. Every now and then the shit hits the fan when you're driving witin your limits, but usually, the shit hitting the fan just means you're a retard. If shit hits the fan while drifting, it is, without question, the "retard" explanation.

[DRIFTER-M]

I don't understand being mad about people asking "do you drift"?
It's what %99 of s-chassis owners do, especially when referring the 240sx why else would one long to own a 20+ year old car with a fairly "meh" power plant? There are certainly better cars for AutoX and virtually any other Motorsport.

Just answer and be cool, our scene turning into Bimmer club with elitist douchebags helps nothing. Be happy someone wants to ask you about your 20+ year old economy sport car.

[mechanicalmoron]

I don't understand being mad about people asking "do you drift"?
It's what %99 of s-chassis owners do, especially when referring the 240sx why else would one long to own a 20+ year old car with a fairly "meh" power plant? There are certainly better cars for AutoX and virtually any other Motorsport.

Just answer and be cool, our scene turning into Bimmer club with elitist douchebags helps nothing. Be happy someone wants to ask you about your 20+ year old economy sport car.

The reason you'd own the car is the same reason you'd own any car - because cars are fun, it's a fun car, there's things to improve and work on, on it, etc. It's a RWD car that's still often cheaper than all sorts of FWD garbage. Maybe other things can beat it - but all around it's a really nice simple car, that's generally really easy and fun to work on, and fun to drive afterwards.

Drifting is not the only reason to be into RWD cars - actually being a car guy is another reason - though it seems to rarely be the reason for drifters.

On one hand, yeah, I'd rather jump at the chance to talk cars with whatever kind of person wants to, even if we disagree, and I don't think that giving dumbasses the cold shoulder will cure them - I know when I've been a dumbass, a cold shoulder is never what cured it - but on the other hand, here you are, with all the other shit you just said - maybe there's a good reason for BMW guys being snobs. We have hoonigans, they have caswell.... a 240 could be done up to keep up with his hooptie, but we just have people who don't see why you'd want a 240 for anything but drifting.

I find that, steriotypes aside, american car guys, and any truck guys, are a lot more reasonable and likable and grown up and respectful and understanding than import guys, who tend to be stuck in a fast and the furious fantasy where having no displacement automatically makes your car handle like something out of star wars - or whatever kind of fantasy leads to drifting as it currently exists.

[DRIFTER-M]

^ I am all for nice cars, and realistically I know a small segment of people will buy s-chassis for something other than drifting (I have a few AutoX guys who are s-chassis people).

My point is, you want to help people grow correctly in the scene, you do that with constructive help rather than being a dick. It doesn't solve anything.

Go to Japan, check out how their scene is. Dudes are more chill, more helpful. The drifting scene and s-chassis scene stateside has become kind of d-bagish, which *gasp* brings in more d-bags.

[mechanicalmoron]

^ I am all for nice cars, and realistically I know a small segment of people will buy s-chassis for something other than drifting (I have a few AutoX guys who are s-chassis people).

My point is, you want to help people grow correctly in the scene, you do that with constructive help rather than being a dick. It doesn't solve anything.

Go to Japan, check out how their scene is. Dudes are more chill, more helpful. The drifting scene and s-chassis scene stateside has become kind of d-bagish, which *gasp* brings in more d-bags.

I'd like to think their scene is full of hans, but I know that's probably not the case.

All-in-all I agree with you, I'd rather talk cars with anyone who wants to (and I don't think I've ever been approached about drifting specifically, though I've been approached a few times about my car), and I don't get the hostility - but I guess I might feel more hostility if I lived somewhere with drifters ruining cars and being bros all over the place.

Like in this thread, I don't get the guy who said he'd get his shotgun if the kid came back about buying his car - I've asked about random cars, or random other junk, that I wanted to buy - how the fuck else would you buy it? Is that yours and can I buy it sound like reasonable questions to me, and if somebody asked them of me I'd be happy to start feeling out if they had the money, if they understood the cars weaknesses and problems, and most importantly, if they'd give my car a good home - I wouldn't just close the door in their face.

[DRIFTER-M]

I'd like to think their scene is full of hans, but I know that's probably not the case.

All-in-all I agree with you, I'd rather talk cars with anyone who wants to (and I don't think I've ever been approached about drifting specifically, though I've been approached a few times about my car), and I don't get the hostility - but I guess I might feel more hostility if I lived somewhere with drifters ruining cars and being bros all over the place.

Like in this thread, I don't get the guy who said he'd get his shotgun if the kid came back about buying his car - I've asked about random cars, or random other junk, that I wanted to buy - how the fuck else would you buy it? Is that yours and can I buy it sound like reasonable questions to me, and if somebody asked them of me I'd be happy to start feeling out if they had the money, if they understood the cars weaknesses and problems, and most importantly, if they'd give my car a good home - I wouldn't just close the door in their face.


Japan, as a society, is simply much more welcoming and helping. The car scene is not different, just chiller.

We like to beef everything up in the states, create drama. Is how it is.

I have had people over the years stop me about my 240, not as much as some people seem to act. It happens occasionally but it really doesn't make me mad - I am happy that people are interested.

I understand about the beater kids with jacked up cars to an extent. I might not agree with it, but I also don't think it is my business to tell them how to build their car even if I personally think it looks ridiculous. At the end of the day it is about having fun - as long as they are doing that, I am chill. If they are new, I can help direct them on proper stuff if they ask of my opinion, it doesn't make me angry - I don't know why it would anyone. Drifting as a scene (not exclusive to 240sx) needs to learn how to be more chill stateside. We do it for the wrong reasons, needs to go back to fun.

All just my .02. I respect your opinion and anyone else's, it is what makes America. I am just saying, we really need to learn how to be chiller with people as a society, our little scene is definitely deserving of the same overhaul!

[mechanicalmoron]

Japan, as a society, is simply much more welcoming and helping. The car scene is not different, just chiller.

We like to beef everything up in the states, create drama. Is how it is.

I have had people over the years stop me about my 240, not as much as some people seem to act. It happens occasionally but it really doesn't make me mad - I am happy that people are interested.

I understand about the beater kids with jacked up cars to an extent. I might not agree with it, but I also don't think it is my business to tell them how to build their car even if I personally think it looks ridiculous. At the end of the day it is about having fun - as long as they are doing that, I am chill. If they are new, I can help direct them on proper stuff if they ask of my opinion, it doesn't make me angry - I don't know why it would anyone. Drifting as a scene (not exclusive to 240sx) needs to learn how to be more chill stateside. We do it for the wrong reasons, needs to go back to fun.

All just my .02. I respect your opinion and anyone else's, it is what makes America. I am just saying, we really need to learn how to be chiller with people as a society, our little scene is definitely deserving of the same overhaul!

I agree with everything you said there.

I even like ridiculous beaters..... I'd like a proper ratrod. I'm sure if you saw my car you'd consider me one of those beater kids.

What bothers me is destroying things I like. I like cars, so I hate people who hop from one to another, and instead of passing them on to people who also love them, destroy them - be it with a wall, or a reasonless partout. They can drift it into all the stuff they want as far as I'm concerned, if they keep the same car, and when it's damaged in a way that keeps it from doing what they want or looking how they want, they actually fix it sufficiently, instead of throwing it away and moving on to destroy another.

So yeah, don't get me wrong - the people parting out functioning cars bother me even more than the people who at least run them into things first. I really don't know if it's part of the us drift culture, specifically, but seems to be a part of our import culture - people into american cars tend to love the cars a lot more, don't know why.

*edit* Here is an example of the culture that's actually finishing off all the 240s: Got an s14, better kill an s13. (http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=590372) This is probably somebody who would say they like, or even love, 240s.... but their actions would tell us otherwise. People seek out american cars to put back together, people seek out imports to destroy. I don't get it.

[winter]

I've seen what people do to cars. There's a certain class of car hierarchy you can place yourself in, and see others in. It's like anything else. There's style, class, and passion. Somewhere between there...you'll find crap. Always. No matter which car you are into.

[Future240]

I've seen what people do to cars. There's a certain class of car hierarchy you can place yourself in, and see others in. It's like anything else. There's style, class, and passion. Somewhere between there...you'll find crap. Always. No matter which car you are into.


While that may be true but look at it as the number of those people versus the number of enthusiasts. The low cost of s-chassis allow a greater number of people to buy in so percentagewise we have more of the crap cars that are representing us. I mean just look at hoonigans and all those drift ratchet people. Versus a community like Rx7 club or Supra forums, where the cars have a much greater buy in so you see a lot less crap cars. And typically speaking the crap cars are usually the louder of the bunch so they are more noticeable.

[HORShi]

Japan, as a society, is simply much more welcoming and helping. The car scene is not different, just chiller.

We like to beef everything up in the states, create drama. Is how it is.

I have had people over the years stop me about my 240, not as much as some people seem to act. It happens occasionally but it really doesn't make me mad - I am happy that people are interested.

I understand about the beater kids with jacked up cars to an extent. I might not agree with it, but I also don't think it is my business to tell them how to build their car even if I personally think it looks ridiculous. At the end of the day it is about having fun - as long as they are doing that, I am chill. If they are new, I can help direct them on proper stuff if they ask of my opinion, it doesn't make me angry - I don't know why it would anyone. Drifting as a scene (not exclusive to 240sx) needs to learn how to be more chill stateside. We do it for the wrong reasons, needs to go back to fun.

All just my .02. I respect your opinion and anyone else's, it is what makes America. I am just saying, we really need to learn how to be chiller with people as a society, our little scene is definitely deserving of the same overhaul!

I strongly concur...here in the states, there is such an "Elitist" attitude or as you say "we like to beef up" kind of attitude.

After having the chance to work with Up Garage to get some stuff for my shop that I'm in the process of opening...it felt like I knew these guys for years, even despite the language barrier. The Japanese automotive scene is wayyy more chill, warm-welcoming and I would like to say, sincere. I was literally able to ask the English-speaking representative that I'm working with shitload of unrelenting questions with the s-chassis, there drift scene and just any and everything under the sun concerning drifting and Japanese automotives period, and he was enthusiast to respond lol.

To put simply, the scene needs a rejuvenated. It's too much of a pissing contest, and egocentric.

In regards to drifting in particular, there definitely needs to be a big overhaul. The fact there is super-competitive nature currently in this country when it comes to drifting, just shows that in itself, is doing it wrong. I'm not saying drifting cannot be competitive, but drifting is becoming like drag-racing or NASCAR competitive, which IMO is completely against the founding principles of drifting.

Next thing you know, your going to see Kenny Moen or Darren McNamara starting Tony Stewartin' motherfuckers and doing flying drop front dropkicks through the windshield over bad judge call or because they got "love tapped" as they call it lol. It's all too serious smh.

*I'm not going to lie though, if FD start becoming brutal and tension flaring like that, I'll admit...I'll be faithfully watching FD haha

[SaUcEy]

Im really glad to see that Im not the only one that feels this way. You guys said it perfectly.

[unwtdhero]

a thread this dumb could only exist on zilvia, im not sure whose worse the missle defenders or missile haters....
and of course the amount of schassis lessen each year...every vehicle does that

Someone please lock this... In fact any thread that contains the words "missle, drift slut, rare, and hoonigan"

[bataangpinoy]

I don't understand being mad about people asking "do you drift"?
It's what %99 of s-chassis owners do, especially when referring the 240sx why else would one long to own a 20+ year old car with a fairly "meh" power plant? There are certainly better cars for AutoX and virtually any other Motorsport.

Just answer and be cool, our scene turning into Bimmer club with elitist douchebags helps nothing. Be happy someone wants to ask you about your 20+ year old economy sport car.

I like you. You spelled Bimmer correctly.
Shoulda seen the backlash I got when I put an s14b23 into my e30

"what a waste of an engine" "touring must be preserved,such rare, very wagon blah"

Its a fucking soccer mom/grandma car in the rest of the world. Never understood why people wanted to jump on me about it.

And d-bags in the BMW crowd are the worst. Bunch of pansy, purist bench racers who suck each other off. Its like any car "community" though. You have the nerds(purists/japanophiles), the fanboys(trailer wheels/plastidip), and the drivers.

I smell nerds and fanbois in this thread.

[xpinoyxmk]

Just left the bmw scene, hope to never go back lol.

Pride is the main reason why Japan has a better scene. I would put the percentage of americans having pride in their cars around 15% from my experience.

For those people who say its an age thing, its not. Its how you were raised, standards really. I was 18 when I bought my first 93 240sx and it was just as clean as the 180sx I currently own, nothing as as far as the cleanliness of the look of my car and the parts I buy, has changed through the years.

[HORShi]

I like you. You spelled Bimmer correctly.
Shoulda seen the backlash I got when I put an s14b23 into my e30

"what a waste of an engine" "touring must be preserved,such rare, very wagon blah"

Its a fucking soccer mom/grandma car in the rest of the world. Never understood why people wanted to jump on me about it.

And d-bags in the BMW crowd are the worst. Bunch of pansy, purist bench racers who suck each other off. Its like any car "community" though. You have the nerds(purists/japanophiles), the fanboys(trailer wheels/plastidip), and the drivers.

I smell nerds and fanbois in this thread.


Don't even get me started with the German crowd smdh.

Try doing a "frankenturbo" on a NON-GLI/GTI VW and install some of the GLI/GTI parts such as the factory BBS and Recaro seats on the NON-GLI/GTI variants. A crucifixion of biblical proportions is imminent. I had one before I bought my S14, and that's part of the reason why I sold mines lol.

The purists/fanboys and especially the stance crowd in the VW/Audi/BMW/German scene will shit on the JDM elitist/fanboys/nerds/Japanese lol. There is no comparison. Zilvia is safe haven compared to the BMW/VWVortex/Audi forums.

I must say though, the VW/Audi stance crowd...they got shit to a science. A lot of them just don't throw on some wheels and slam, they got things down to millimeters, probably even micrometers, quantum scale of fitment between lip to tire, lip to fender and clearance, documented lol. Stanceology haha

[slower than you]

Don't even get me started with the German crowd smdh.

Try doing a "frankenturbo" on a NON-GLI/GTI VW and install some of the GLI/GTI parts such as the factory BBS and Recaro seats on the NON-GLI/GTI variants. A crucifixion of biblical proportions is imminent. I had one before I bought my S14, and that's part of the reason why I sold mines lol.

The purists/fanboys and especially the stance crowd in the VW/Audi/BMW/German scene will shit on the JDM elitist/fanboys/nerds/Japanese lol. There is no comparison. Zilvia is safe haven compared to the BMW/VWVortex/Audi forums.

I must say though, the VW/Audi stance crowd...they got shit to a science. A lot of them just don't throw on some wheels and slam, they got things down to millimeters, probably even micrometers, quantum scale of fitment between lip to tire, lip to fender and clearance, documented lol. Stanceology haha

Youre 20 years old, and already left the VW scene for the S chassis "scene"? And youre throwing out words like fanboy? Stancology? Really?

Kettle, Ive got some bad news. You are pot. Kindly step down from the soapbox.

[OBEEWON]

BMW lovers are probably the worst types of humans on the face of the earth.
I imagine the Schutzstaffel were BMW guys.

[HORShi]

Youre 20 years old, and already left the VW scene for the S chassis "scene"? And youre throwing out words like fanboy? Stancology? Really?

Kettle, Ive got some bad news. You are pot. Kindly step down from the soapbox.

Well thank you. I gladly accept. :cool:

Got to prepare you know, when the rest of the older guys get well, old and tired or arthritis or fall over...

BMW lovers are probably the worst types of humans on the face of the earth.
I imagine the Schutzstaffel were BMW guys.

Fun fact, BMW during the time did profit of slave labor from the concentration camps and the Aryan push of Jewish workers. I think the guy name during the time was Quandt something, if I remember correctly. He or his son I believe was great friends with Hitler. So I wouldn't put it past it lol

[LockOn!]

This thread is like 3 wiki clicks off from the topic if this were a wikipedia article. Hilarious.

Also, we have other threads for missile/hoonibro bashing.

http://i.imgur.com/qTHxOZx.jpg

[derek king]

I must say though, the VW/Audi stance crowd...they got shit to a science. A lot of them just don't throw on some wheels and slam, they got things down to millimeters, probably even micrometers, quantum scale of fitment between lip to tire, lip to fender and clearance, documented lol. Stanceology haha
Thats easy to do when all you have to do is get out of your driveway and to the next parking lot to derp in.

[OBEEWON]

Having been to H2Oi, I can say with authority that most of those fellers like hot dogs in their buns.

[bataangpinoy]

*SNIP*
right off my instagram

[bmaddock]

Fun fact, BMW during the time did profit of slave labor from the concentration camps and the Aryan push of Jewish workers. I think the guy name during the time was Quandt something, if I remember correctly. He or his son I believe was great friends with Hitler. So I wouldn't put it past it lol

This thread is like 3 wiki clicks off from the topic if this were a wikipedia article. Hilarious.

I hope you're talking about Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law), too funny.

[HORShi]

Thats easy to do when all you have to do is get out of your driveway and to the next parking lot to derp in.

...You know you like to derp when you pull up Derek...don't you lie now.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-27-2015/i73Q1X.gif (http://www.makeagif.com/i73Q1X)

I hope you're talking about Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law), too funny.


Haha, it was destined to happen. Shows the worthiness of the thread.

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

Next thing you know, your going to see Kenny Moen or Darren McNamara starting Tony Stewartin' motherfuckers and doing flying drop front dropkicks through the windshield over bad judge call or because they got "love tapped" as they call it lol. It's all too serious smh.

*I'm not going to lie though, if FD start becoming brutal and tension flaring like that, I'll admit...I'll be faithfully watching FD haha

Sounds like you want a FD/WWE crossover. Remember when they did the monster truck match? That was sweet.