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97240sxle
10-05-2014, 09:58 PM
I purchased this off of a mod of this forum. It's a 1997 240sx LE bone stock all over. Clean carfax but did have a dent repaired on the passenger side rear quarter panel. It has 133k on it and has been garaged since purchase. It's a one owner 240. The purchase price was 7,800. Did I get a good deal or did I get swindled?

97240sxle
10-05-2014, 09:59 PM
Another pic for your viewing pleasure.

Tono
10-05-2014, 10:09 PM
man that drift tax is crazy

i dont mean to bash your purchase but for $7800 you could have got some pretty sweet cars (BMW E36, or E55 AMG, IS300, etc...) but hey this is a Nissan forum

Plus you got a 97 so you cant really swap anything unless you got the cash to pass emissions/smog/inspection/bribe some guy. hopefully this doesnt apply to you depending where you live

Good luck!

97240sxle
10-05-2014, 10:23 PM
man that drift tax is crazy

i dont mean to bash your purchase but for $7800 you could have got some pretty sweet cars (BMW E36, or E55 AMG, IS300, etc...) but hey this is a Nissan forum

Plus you got a 97 so you cant really swap anything unless you got the cash to pass emissions/smog/inspection/bribe some guy. hopefully this doesnt apply to you depending where you live

Good luck!

I live in Alabama a non emissions state so I could put coal rolling diesel in this thing and it wouldn't matter. Thank god for the south.

benarovi
10-05-2014, 10:34 PM
dont sweat it. just dont fuck it up

Gar9854
10-05-2014, 10:38 PM
You paid 4000$ too much

omgRWDgoodness!
10-05-2014, 10:50 PM
man that drift tax is crazy

i dont mean to bash your purchase but for $7800 you could have got some pretty sweet cars (BMW E36, or E55 AMG, IS300, etc...) but hey this is a Nissan forum

While that is tad on the high side, if you factor the average cost of ownership, performance potential per dollar (especially with no emissions), and overall fun factor versus the aforementioned cars I would have still chosen the S14.

Then again if I also had almost $8k to spend I would have bought a diesel Land Cruiser :p

97240sxle
10-05-2014, 11:50 PM
While that is tad on the high side, if you factor the average cost of ownership, performance potential per dollar (especially with no emissions), and overall fun factor versus the aforementioned cars I would have still chosen the S14.

Then again if I also had almost $8k to spend I would have bought a diesel Land Cruiser :p

I've got the diesel area covered. 2002 F250 with 7.3l powerstroke :) It doesn't have the power potential of a cummins or an allison transmission it does however work very well with the biodiesel I make.

Silviastunter
10-06-2014, 12:07 AM
Holy shit 8 grand shit better have a RB under that hood.

MurphyWorks
10-06-2014, 12:14 AM
Was it worth the 8k to you? That's all that really matters

angel mkiv
10-06-2014, 12:33 AM
I mean you already paid him and agreed to the price so why does it matter if you got "swindled"? Not like you can get a refund.anyways it's on the high side but for its condition being a rare sight nowadays and drift tax also it's not a horrible deal.

97240sxle
10-06-2014, 12:46 AM
I mean you already paid him and agreed to the price so why does it matter if you got "swindled"? Not like you can get a refund.anyways it's on the high side but for its condition being a rare sight nowadays and drift tax also it's not a horrible deal.

I guess it matters because if its that bad of a deal ill resell and just go with a low mileage 350z.

On a side note stock is what most look for in a project car. No one wants buy someone's failed project and theres no telling who or what went into the ride. Like playing a game of Russian roulette only with your money. And the reason I ask such like minded and devoted connoisseurs of the 240 world is only bc while I'm not new to turning a wrench or the 240 world I just wanted some opinions on the matter. Not being defensive just explaining my reasons for posting.

Akop
10-06-2014, 01:15 AM
You paid 4000$ too much

4000$ too much? Please tell me where you're going to find a clean 1 color kouki for 3k. Don't make me show you what you could pick up for 3k on craigslist. This isn't a bad deal, although some mods would have been nice to start your project mine. I got mine exactly like the Op's, 1997, clean title, 5 speed, Black, with the usdm lip, hks coilovers, intake, exhaust, and a rebuilt ka that hasnt gave me a SINGLE problem for the past 3 years. for 6500 flat.

rawgarage
10-06-2014, 01:35 AM
damn could gotten a 350z....but that leather interior doe

97240sxle
10-06-2014, 01:38 AM
Was it worth the 8k to you? That's all that really matters

Believe it or not there were emails that I saw of several other interested parties willing to pay 1500 to 1700 more than what I offered him.

97240sxle
10-06-2014, 01:44 AM
4000$ too much? Please tell me where you're going to find a clean 1 color kouki for 3k. Don't make me show you what you could pick up for 3k on craigslist. This isn't a bad deal, although some mods would have been nice to start your project mine. I got mine exactly like the Op's, 1997, clean title, 5 speed, Black, with the usdm lip, hks coilovers, intake, exhaust, and a rebuilt ka that hasnt gave me a SINGLE problem for the past 3 years. for 6500 flat.

6500 is a good deal especially with what you started with. It seems the 240 is on the endangered species list of vehicles. 97-98 especially!

DreamN
10-06-2014, 03:28 AM
You paid a premium. It's worth it to those who like the reassurance of having an unmolested car to begin with and, more importantly, having full knowledge of the vehicle from the day it left the lot. You didn't get swindled.

claine650
10-06-2014, 04:00 AM
Looks pretty immaculate. Plus how many kouki do you see rolling around Bama where you live? Seems like a vast population of these cars have made it out west or held captive and undriven in a garage from what I've seen. Hardly ever see s14 's were I live in ohio, makes owning one even better knowing you look better than all the hondas that are everywhere. Even 350z is about as common as seeing a mustang anymore (okay, not quite). Still, I would pay that for a super clean car that has serious potential to become anything you want it to be, and it's not a common car depending where you live.

97240sxle
10-06-2014, 04:34 AM
I will post more pictures later today but the interior is spotless. And yes I know sellers say that in ads to get buyers to the car only to find out the vehicle has been lived out of for years. The undercarriage is completely rust free. Even the jack points are straight and unbent which is unheard of for a used 240.

97240sxle
10-06-2014, 04:41 AM
Another photo with a shot of the frame rails that are all too often smash, crushed, rusted or damaged,

97240sxle
10-06-2014, 04:42 AM
And yet another

97240sxle
10-06-2014, 04:52 AM
Looks pretty immaculate. Plus how many kouki do you see rolling around Bama where you live? Seems like a vast population of these cars have made it out west or held captive and undriven in a garage from what I've seen. Hardly ever see s14 's were I live in ohio, makes owning one even better knowing you look better than all the hondas that are everywhere. Even 350z is about as common as seeing a mustang anymore (okay, not quite). Still, I would pay that for a super clean car that has serious potential to become anything you want it to be, and it's not a common car depending where you live.

I lived in Atlanta for three years before enlisting in the army and in the 6 years I spent at different posts, cities, and where I currently in Alabama I have only seen one kouki and im not sure it was a genuine 97-98. And I have always had an eye out for 'em... both kouki's and zenki's.

silviaks2nr
10-06-2014, 06:10 AM
[QUOTE=DreamN;5737795]You paid a premium. It's worth it to those who like the reassurance of having an unmolested car to begin with and, more importantly, having full knowledge of the vehicle from the day it left the lot. You didn't


I agree.


Now keep it stock op. Buy a broken one to swap!

Shift_Kouki
10-06-2014, 08:03 AM
It's the sad truth... that's what these cars are worth now. I bought my 98 for 3k, but that was 5 years ago. With how clean it is and the fact that it's black, I say you came out fine. You could have had a 300+ hoorsepower v8 luxury sedan for that price, but kouki's are the shit, and I would have jumped on it too.

ixfxi
10-06-2014, 03:45 PM
the body and undercarriage look to be in good condition

price seems reasonable to me. not a 3-4k car in any way.

Kingtal0n
10-06-2014, 07:03 PM
And yet another

This is all that matters when you pay that premium. The frame and pinch look pristine, this is a $10,000 car in five years, if you maintain it, leave it all stock, and take care of that frame.

Don't jack it up without a nice block of wood between your jack and the rail.


I've seen hundreds of 240s and finding one with that clean of a frame is 1/100. Congratulations :D

Only problem you have now is... You can't modify it without facing a loss.
Install an sr20det? clutch? front mount? paint it? wheels? suspension? You will never get that 100% money back when you sell if you do any of those things.
So this is a great kind of car for a serious high budget project that you keep when finished. A 600rwhp 2jz-gte daily driver for instance with $20,000 invested.
You put one knock off part on the car and its value will be gone.

Mishkin_707
10-06-2014, 07:45 PM
I guess it matters because if its that bad of a deal ill resell and just go with a low mileage 350z.



On a side note stock is what most look for in a project car. No one wants buy someone's failed project and theres no telling who or what went into the ride. Like playing a game of Russian roulette only with your money. And the reason I ask such like minded and devoted connoisseurs of the 240 world is only bc while I'm not new to turning a wrench or the 240 world I just wanted some opinions on the matter. Not being defensive just explaining my reasons for posting.


Well here's the thing, you did over pay, there is no selling it at the price you bought it anytime soon, you'd have to leave it as is, not driving the car to add more mileage and sit on it for a long time before you can doop someone into buying it like you got dooped, now question, what's the reason the rear tail lights aren't matching to the center garnish/trim?


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feito
10-06-2014, 11:02 PM
Well here's the thing, you did over pay, there is no selling it at the price you bought it anytime soon, you'd have to leave it as is, not driving the car to add more mileage and sit on it for a long time before you can doop someone into buying it like you got dooped

^this. So if you like it just enjoy it, otherwise if you keep thinking about it is gonna keep you up at night. Take it as a lesson learned.

97240sxle
10-06-2014, 11:20 PM
Well here's the thing, you did over pay, there is no selling it at the price you bought it anytime soon, you'd have to leave it as is, not driving the car to add more mileage and sit on it for a long time before you can doop someone into buying it like you got dooped, now question, what's the reason the rear tail lights aren't matching to the center garnish/trim?


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I've seen other LE stock photos with it. Black exterior white leather interior and silver-ish center trim

l adam l
10-06-2014, 11:34 PM
Well here's the thing, you did over pay, there is no selling it at the price you bought it anytime soon, you'd have to leave it as is, not driving the car to add more mileage and sit on it for a long time before you can doop someone into buying it like you got dooped, now question, what's the reason the rear tail lights aren't matching to the center garnish/trim?


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i'd say he only overpaid for it if he plans on gutting it and throwing an sr20 in it with some ebay coils.

if not, it's worth it to me to spend the extra $$$ knowing that you're not rolling around in someone else's unsafe shitbox with unknown problems that'd you get when buying someone else's shell/project car.

i'd say you got a nice buy, although gauge clusters(mileage) are easily swapped out, as well as getting a cheap maaco paint job. you really never know what you're getting anymore, but that thing is pretty clean.

97240sxle
10-07-2014, 01:02 AM
i'd say he only overpaid for it if he plans on gutting it and throwing an sr20 in it with some ebay coils.

if not, it's worth it to me to spend the extra $$$ knowing that you're not rolling around in someone else's unsafe shitbox with unknown problems that'd you get when buying someone else's shell/project car.

i'd say you got a nice buy, although gauge clusters(mileage) are easily swapped out, as well as getting a cheap maaco paint job. you really never know what you're getting anymore, but that thing is pretty clean.

I had it taken to two body shops to confirm if this is in fact the real deal. Both said that the paint, trim, engine and even the coilovers are all original. From two very thorough inspections they confirmed that the car from headlight to tail light are original. Quite remarkable considering its an 17 yo car.

eek
10-07-2014, 01:07 AM
Its not a bad price considering its clean and all original. There are alot of cars you can buy for the same money but if your heart is set on the a S14 and you wanted a un-molested clean one to start with, its worth it.

SilviaSR20DET
10-07-2014, 01:50 AM
Its a good deal IMO, its only gonna go up in value as time goes on because its pretty rare to find any 240 in good condition. I use to see some clean ones driving around years ago but now its pretty damn rare to see one that isn't beat to shit or any of that matter. Keep it clean and treat it well they are a dying breed.

acslater9
10-07-2014, 05:29 AM
I just bought a Kouki in NC, for $2000 and it is just as good as yours OP. It is automatic and has 162k miles but other than that cars frame rails are perfect. It's a clean car OP if you feel like you made the right decision, then don't let it bother you. Come 10-15 years from now you'll get double the price. With all these kouki's getting drifted I'm pretty sure the price on these cars will skyrocket in the future.

97240sxle
10-07-2014, 05:54 AM
I just bought a Kouki in NC, for $2000 and it is just as good as yours OP. It is automatic and has 162k miles but other than that cars frame rails are perfect. It's a clean car OP if you feel like you made the right decision, then don't let it bother you. Come 10-15 years from now you'll get double the price. With all these kouki's getting drifted I'm pretty sure the price on these cars will skyrocket in the future.

Thats an amazing deal!!!! Was yours an base, SE, LE? What other features did it have? Clean title? I ask out of curiosity.

97240sxle
10-07-2014, 05:58 AM
Truth be told the car I wanted was in Florida and as I'm driving down to buy the seller calls me to tell me he sold it to his friend. An hour later he calls me back saying his friend would sell me the car for 2000 over what I had already agreed to pay the original seller. :mrmeph: Naturally I told them both fuck off. That's when I found this car.

Akop
10-07-2014, 09:23 AM
I just bought a Kouki in NC, for $2000 and it is just as good as yours OP. It is automatic and has 162k miles but other than that cars frame rails are perfect. It's a clean car OP if you feel like you made the right decision, then don't let it bother you. Come 10-15 years from now you'll get double the price. With all these kouki's getting drifted I'm pretty sure the price on these cars will skyrocket in the future.

Pictures please?

OBEEWON
10-07-2014, 09:49 AM
MAN! In college in 06 I was about to pay $5,200 for a 97 and I thought that was steep.
But considering these cars are going up in price that is not a horrible price. If you are happy then that's all that matters really. Things are only worth what people want to pay in the end.

mewantkouki
10-07-2014, 10:03 AM
That's a $5500 car at best. Not to hurt feelings but it's a fact.

Kuma
10-07-2014, 10:06 AM
According to this CL add you got a steal of a deal. They want $10k for this 95.
http://images.craigslist.org/00R0R_BbhHHPfm3_600x450.jpg
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/ctd/4700635438.html

Someone needs to troll this dealership.

97240sxle
10-07-2014, 12:46 PM
According to this CL add you got a steal of a deal. They want $10k for this 95.
http://images.craigslist.org/00R0R_BbhHHPfm3_600x450.jpg
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/ctd/4700635438.html

Someone needs to troll this dealership.

Lol they have had that up on autotrader for about a month. I guess they needed to venture out into the world of craigslist.

97240sxle
10-07-2014, 12:49 PM
Truth be told guys I think I'm going to sell and get a 350z. I know they are much much much more common but I actually fit in them better at 6'3.

acslater9
10-07-2014, 12:57 PM
Thats an amazing deal!!!! Was yours an base, SE, LE? What other features did it have? Clean title? I ask out of curiosity.

It's an SE model. Power everything. Though I do not like sunroofs, I couldn't pass it up. Sunroof does not work, but he gave me a new (used) sunroof motor. It does have a clean title. Reason why he was selling it was because he had way to many projects. I'm just happy it's in good condition and runs. I'll post pictures as soon as I can, it's just a little dirty right now lol.

Trap Star
10-07-2014, 01:43 PM
As long as you are happy with what you got for what you paid it doesn't matter. I think its a bit much for a Kouki in the south east but that's probably about the right price for one in SoCal.

OBEEWON
10-07-2014, 02:13 PM
I can't believe at the price 350Z's go for that people spend so much bank on 240's.

jr_ss
10-07-2014, 03:26 PM
All you people that think these cars are only going to go up in price are going to be in for a rude awakening when the 25yr mark is up. No one is going to want a stock USDM chassis when they can buy a stock or lightly modified JDM Chassis. Why do you think these cars a pulling a premium right now? No, it's not because it's right before race wars, it's because they are in demand. What happens when the market is flooded with the JDM chassis?

Frank_Jaeger
10-07-2014, 03:28 PM
Believe it or not there were emails that I saw of several other interested parties willing to pay 1500 to 1700 more than what I offered him.
Emails can be faked very easily.

I'd keep that car bone stock.

All you people that think these cars are only going to go up in price are going to be in for a rude awakening when the 25yr mark is up. No one is going to want a stock USDM chassis when they can buy a stock or lightly modified JDM Chassis. Why do you think these cars a pulling a premium right now? No, it's not because it's right before race wars, it's because they are in demand. What happens when the market is flooded with the JDM chassis?
When the market gets "flooded" with JDM counterparts, they'll be $3k more than their comparable domestic versions. These cars have yet to hit a ceiling in price.

simmode1
10-07-2014, 03:42 PM
I can't believe at the price 350Z's go for that people spend so much bank on 240's.

Ditto. At the price of an early Z33, why not buy one over a 240? Not enough power in comparison to a modestly built SR? Throw a blower on it then! Who cares if the VQ35DE is junk at handling boost... they're getting so cheap, they're the new KA...

Shift_grip
10-07-2014, 05:20 PM
I paid $1500 for a stock auto base 95 with 250k in North Alabama. I don't think you overpaid much, if at all. Clean 240s are rare around here, especially koukis.

Kuma
10-07-2014, 06:52 PM
I paid $1500 for a stock auto base 95 with 250k in North Alabama. I don't think you overpaid much, if at all. Clean 240s are rare around here, especially koukis.

That really doesn't make sense. he paid $6300 more for a different front end, a manual transmission, and 130k less miles. with the $6300 you saved you could do suspension and a sr swap if you shopped smart.

I guess it's not much different than someone paying $13k+ for a supra or rx7 in fair to Shitty condition.

240sx_Durifto
10-07-2014, 08:09 PM
I'm getting my '97 Kouki SE 5spd this weekend. im paying $6000 for it. got couple mods here and there. im satisfied so far. original black, and its got 150k miles on it. bit high, but eh don't matter for me lol

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OBEEWON
10-08-2014, 07:12 AM
I would say that is worth 6k.

RalliartRsX
10-08-2014, 07:50 AM
1) If you are asking this question AFTER the fact, then it's clear you do not think so (and well, it's too late anyways). Regardless of what we think, it's a matter of what you will pay..............

2) Terrible idea to ask the question on the board where you bought the vehicle from (especially if the prior owner is a CURRENT moderator on here!!!!!!!!!!)...........

IJS........

SilviaSR20DET
10-08-2014, 12:53 PM
JDM s14's are getting harder to find that isn't rebuilt or in like new condition from what i researched on the auctions. Not to count how many s14's get cut in half for clips. Hence why sr20 s14's motors are getting more expensive as time goes on. 350z's are nice for the price nowadays but its pretty impractical and are expensive to mod. I bought my 96 in 2003 for 9k but it had 32k miles on it and garaged kept. So i'm surprised these car's somewhat hold their value and one of the reasons why im holding on to mine. In the end as long as your happy with the car thats all that matters really.

Matej
10-08-2014, 01:37 PM
Before reselling, put a Hoonigan or 'Ain't care' sticker on it to double the value.

97240sxle
10-09-2014, 02:07 AM
1) If you are asking this question AFTER the fact, then it's clear you do not think so (and well, it's too late anyways). Regardless of what we think, it's a matter of what you will pay..............

2) Terrible idea to ask the question on the board where you bought the vehicle from (especially if the prior owner is a CURRENT moderator on here!!!!!!!!!!)...........

IJS........

1-I ask because if its that shitty of a deal ill cut my losses and go with a 350. It's never too late to ask questions.

2-Didn't buy it off here. I didn't learn till after the fact he was a mod on this board.

I'm selling at 7,500. I honestly just want something newer. I've always been a 240 man but ever since a run in with an IED I can't do the work myself like I used to.

97240sxle
10-09-2014, 12:31 PM
JDM s14's are getting harder to find that isn't rebuilt or in like new condition from what i researched on the auctions. Not to count how many s14's get cut in half for clips. Hence why sr20 s14's motors are getting more expensive as time goes on. 350z's are nice for the price nowadays but its pretty impractical and are expensive to mod. I bought my 96 in 2003 for 9k but it had 32k miles on it and garaged kept. So i'm surprised these car's somewhat hold their value and one of the reasons why im holding on to mine. In the end as long as your happy with the car thats all that matters really.

Why do you say impractical?

silviaks2nr
10-09-2014, 12:42 PM
Well that's pretty obvious. There's no back seat, no glove box, and no rear trunk space.

g35gabby
10-09-2014, 01:12 PM
You can import an R32 GTST, Soarer, 200ZXR, AE86, S13, Cedrics or Inifini RX7 with a 1/4 the miles for the about the same price or less. To me you over paid, but that is just me. I have owned 240s, G35s, and a R32 now. There is no comparing any bone stock 240 to a Z33, G35, or any number of importable vehicles. The great thing about 240s years ago was how cheap they were and relative easy and cost to modify. They are now for the vast majority rust buckets and unkept. Even the "low miles" (in the US that means under 150k) are still an engine swap away from being anything too impressive. They are a blast build, but their claim to fame was a cheap drift car..... they are getting farther and farther from "cheap" every day it seems.

Granted I see Koukis ALLL the time in town so maybe that has jaded my POV, but I just don't see the value increasing. Specially when you can get low mile cars from the mother land for such a reasonable price. FD's, MKIV Supras, R33s, Pulsar GTI-Rs, NSX's, Chasers and more are really not that far out.

On the practicality side.... 240s aren't practical either. Technically they have a back seat, but unless you hang out with legless midgets, then it really doesn't count. if you need practical a RWD Sports coupe isn't exactly the first choice on most people's list.

OBEEWON
10-09-2014, 02:12 PM
My Skyline has more leg room than a 240sx ever will. I seriously think that is worth the extra bread.

Some people just don't get it.
ShakingMyHead.

Vegass13
10-09-2014, 02:43 PM
my brother got his completely stock auto 98 with like 42k original miles i think for 6.5k-7.5k i dont remember the exact amount....(this was 5 years ago) just for comparison since you seem to have bought almost the same

jamg
10-09-2014, 03:40 PM
you paid almost $10000 for a car that's 16 years old.

let alone it's a nissan.

sink that in for a little bit.

$7k will get you a lot of nicer/newer cars out there.

Kingtal0n
10-09-2014, 06:52 PM
you paid almost $10000 for a car that's 16 years old.

let alone it's a nissan.

sink that in for a little bit.

$7k will get you a lot of nicer/newer cars out there.

What do you consider "nicer" ?

Find me a car like a 240sx, one that:
1. appreciates in value
2. lightweight
3. RWD
4. easy to maintain
5. reliable for 200,000+ miles with oem everything
6. easy to find parts for
7. parts are cheap
8. easy to work on (above and beyond maintenance)
9. parts replacement/failure is forecast (we know what will fail in the future i.e. front main, tensioner, TC-rods, door panels, etc... )
10. has a high quality JDM counterpart drivetrain that bolts right in with no custom parts
11. appreciates in value


You find me another "nicer" car that hits at least eight of these points in the same $10,000 price bracket

Dear thread op:
Drive your car for as long as you want, just change the oil. She will treat you right. And when you are done, after you put 50,000 miles+ on her, sell for what you paid or more.

laurentj23
10-09-2014, 08:32 PM
I'm selling my vq swapped s14 for 6500..that's 1k cheaper. Will I pay that price if I were you, hell no!

Chaluska
10-09-2014, 08:34 PM
What do you consider "nicer" ?

Find me a car like a 240sx, one that:
1. appreciates in value
2. lightweight
3. RWD
4. easy to maintain
5. reliable for 200,000+ miles with oem everything
6. easy to find parts for
7. parts are cheap
8. easy to work on (above and beyond maintenance)
9. parts replacement/failure is forecast (we know what will fail in the future i.e. front main, tensioner, TC-rods, door panels, etc... )
10. has a high quality JDM counterpart drivetrain that bolts right in with no custom parts
11. appreciates in value


You find me another "nicer" car that hits at least eight of these points in the same $10,000 price bracket

Dear thread op:
Drive your car for as long as you want, just change the oil. She will treat you right. And when you are done, after you put 50,000 miles+ on her, sell for what you paid or more.


not sure what area of the US you are in, but a 240sx most definitely does not appreciate in value... at all

jamg
10-09-2014, 08:36 PM
What do you consider "nicer" ?

Find me a car like a 240sx, one that:
1. appreciates in value
2. lightweight
3. RWD
4. easy to maintain
5. reliable for 200,000+ miles with oem everything
6. easy to find parts for
7. parts are cheap
8. easy to work on (above and beyond maintenance)
9. parts replacement/failure is forecast (we know what will fail in the future i.e. front main, tensioner, TC-rods, door panels, etc... )
10. has a high quality JDM counterpart drivetrain that bolts right in with no custom parts
11. appreciates in value


You find me another "nicer" car that hits at least eight of these points in the same $10,000 price bracket

Dear thread op:
Drive your car for as long as you want, just change the oil. She will treat you right. And when you are done, after you put 50,000 miles+ on her, sell for what you paid or more.

honda s2k to name one.

it has one of the greatest 4 cylinders of all time next to a K20.

OBEEWON
10-10-2014, 09:06 AM
Drive your car for as long as you want, just change the oil. She will treat you right.

This is sexist.

honda s2k to name one.


I want a Honda S2k for $10g. Please show me to the nearest one.

WheelWhore
10-10-2014, 09:43 AM
^theres ~5 of them within 3hr driving range of me.

OBEEWON
10-10-2014, 09:50 AM
Links please. I've been looking for a while.

g35gabby
10-10-2014, 10:23 AM
Links please. I've been looking for a while.

I've seen several in the 6-8k recently, either they are higher in mileage or rebuilt titled. Granted I'm not looking for them, but just what I have come across locally.

Most of them the R-titled ones are one that had their tops cut for seats.

Couldn't pay me to own a honda in this city.

RalliartRsX
10-10-2014, 10:26 AM
For those who said they will appreciate in Value, I highly doubt it. Once the S2K (sooner than later) and the twins (FRS/BRZ) drop to what the a stock S14 kouki is fetching now, the price of the 240sx will surely plummit. And that won't be too long from now since not only will those US bred versions be attainable, but when that 25 year law expires, no one is going to want a stock 240sx............

Below is a VERY VERY NICE STOCK AP1 S2000 with 120K Miles, AP2 wheels and all the receipts for all of $8200 slightly negotiable. And there are alot more in my neck of the woods from 7500 all the way up to 15-16K. However as mentioned above, the reason most S2000 have R-Titles, is not because some dorifto wrecked it, but because of how often they get stolen unfortunately.

$8200 S2000 (http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/4670471334.html)

jamg
10-10-2014, 11:08 AM
s2k's also get wrecked a lot in the rain.

something with the owners having crap tires.... i was driving back from a drift event in the rain and had one do a 720* spin in front of me. nearly smashed my front end.

but yeah. plenty of $10k S2k's out there.

RalliartRsX
10-10-2014, 11:20 AM
s2k's also get wrecked a lot in the rain.

something with the owners having crap tires.... i was driving back from a drift event in the rain and had one do a 720* spin in front of me. nearly smashed my front end.



That is 100% attributed to driver error. Regardless of conditions, unless on full slicks, drivers should not place themselves in a position to where a spin on a non race track is inevitable. The stock (Bridgestones??) are more than capable to handle most conditions.

3411
10-10-2014, 11:33 AM
LE's are hard to come by as is, that rare int alone i say its a fair deal

OBEEWON
10-10-2014, 12:30 PM
All these cheap S2k's and not one link...

Dasfugit?

WheelWhore
10-10-2014, 01:19 PM
2 of the ones I speak of are in Facebook Groups.

WheelWhore
10-10-2014, 01:23 PM
http://eastnc.craigslist.org/cto/4696947330.html

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ctd/4688450489.html

OBEEWON
10-10-2014, 01:39 PM
YES!
Thanks.
Im buying an S2K! Later nerds.

RalliartRsX
10-10-2014, 01:40 PM
All these cheap S2k's and not one link...

Dasfugit?

There is a link in my post..................:facepalm:

Stop being lazy :2f2f:

OBEEWON
10-10-2014, 02:02 PM
I didn't see it. Frick that one is even cheaper and a bit nicer too. In my area the cheapest I've seen is $12.5 for a pretty busted one. Is the AP1 or the AP2 the one to avoid?

RalliartRsX
10-10-2014, 02:05 PM
The AP1 is the earlier version and has a bit smaller displacement (2.0 vs 2.2 of the AP2). As small as that sounds, the drivability is much improved and you do not have a stratospheric redline to boot. There is a host of other differences (different cosmetics, wider wheels, etc), but that is one of the major differences.

The AP2 is ofcourse newer (and ofcourse more $$$) and the more desirable one, but depending on what you want to do, either will work.

OBEEWON
10-10-2014, 02:09 PM
So the one you linked is actually a pretty excellent deal for being an AP2. I just don't like the electric steering racks in these.

RalliartRsX
10-10-2014, 02:12 PM
So the one you linked is actually a pretty excellent deal for being an AP2. I just don't like the electric steering racks in these.

Not to be a dick, but that's just nit picking. Every car has a flaw :coolugh:

What do you not like about the rack? Because other than doriftos, everyone I know who has one (3 HPDE cars, 2 street cars and 1 fully prepped SCCA IT spec track car) LOVE the steering rack on those!

OBEEWON
10-10-2014, 02:18 PM
LOL nothing dickish about that. From my limited experience of driving two (I don't even remember what years they were) I just don't like the steering. I can't even describe it really. It's like those cars that have the electronic assist under a certain MPH then once you pass it the rack becomes tighter. It's just weird. Not anything that would make me not buy the car, I would just do an RX7 rack or something.

HPDE and SCCA guys are massive nerds and like strange thing though.

The last HPDE I did I ran into an oooold family friend and he took me out for a few laps. I was super impressed with stock suspension and engine. Just slicks, NSX rotors, Accord calipers, and race pads it made my neck sore.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3879/14467382516_cbe20be8a1_c.jpg

silviasandbeer
10-10-2014, 04:59 PM
i see your m3 with the big ass F sticker hehe

Is there any other platforms that match the reqirements that Kingtalon posted?
how much do mr2s fetch?

cause if the s2000 is the only one than id say the prices of these s14s are fare
i mean, a beautiful red zenki with a SR and proper suspension sold for close to $10K not long ago

i dont know, who cares... just drive the shit and have fun. YOLO?

OBEEWON
10-13-2014, 09:35 AM
LOL first time I noticed my car was in the frame.

Only other car I can think of is Miata or FC. I think OP got a decent deal.

mewantkouki
10-13-2014, 09:58 AM
Brother's car: 98 SE, Auto, sunroof, 70k original miles, black, 100% uncrashed & unmolested. Cost a whopping $4500. Car has rock chips on front bumper and looks like it has never been on a jack. This was a good deal.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ooberplex/IMG_3612.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/ooberplex/media/IMG_3612.jpg.html)
My turd: 98 SE, hardtop, auto, 190k miles, black, needs a repaint. Cost me $3600.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ooberplex/IMG_3776.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/ooberplex/media/IMG_3776.jpg.html)

Clean reasonably priced cars are out there. It's a waiting game. I agree 100% with better cars becoming cheaper. (FRS, BRZ, 350z, etc.) S13 / S14 prices will plummet. There is a very small population that actually has any interest in these cars. LOL @ all the owners with Barrett Jackson aspirations.

dfyjdy
10-13-2014, 10:29 AM
dont sweat it. just dont fuck it up http://lifehealthus.com/image/images/123.gif

xggjxdfj
10-14-2014, 08:43 AM
dont sweat it. just dont fuck it uphttp://lifehealthus.com/image/images/123.gif

DnRod17
10-18-2014, 11:24 PM
No, that seems to be in line with current prices. Looks very nice, and these cars are getting harder to find. Check out current auction prices, such as this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nissan-240SX-S14-Rare-1997-Nissan-240SX-SE-Coupe-2-Door-2-4L-5-speed-/201196428915?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2ed83dde73&item=201196428915&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

I don't think values will drop. As rust and accidents take more 240s off the road, supply will be limited. I don't think Japan has many nice ones left as well, plus they have been exporting these around the world already. Look at what happened to the AE86, even when better cars were available to for less cash. I think 350z prices will continue further downward, while 240sx will stay about the same.