I Really Want These Rims!

[Crab Walker]

http://i18.ebayimg.com/01/i/02/03/17/2f_1.JPG

I really want these rims but my s13 coupe has the old 4 lug and these rims and 5. Can someone tell me on the difficulty meter, how hard it is to do a 4 to 5 lug conversion?

Or if anyone knows of any rims that look simular to these that a 4s?

17"

20S/40ZR17 80W

Offset: FWD

[Salty_X]

4 --> 5-lug is easy ish.

The wheels are just one of the many copies of Advan Model 7s, which are now found in acceptable sizes and offsets under the "T7" model line. Linky (https://www.yokohamatire.jp/yrc/japan/wheel/brand/avs_modelT7/avs_modelT7.jsp)

Edit: tried to fix link... it works for me...

[phrozen]

why do u want crap offset?

[Crab Walker]

Im sorry, I really do know much about rims and what offets means :duh: . Can you tell me? also link does not work.

[Salty_X]

There are 4 wheel specs you need to take into account when choosing a set of wheels. In no order:
- Diameter
- Width
- Offset
- Weight

Diameter, width, and weight are pretty easily explained. Offset is a tiny bit more complex, my best 3:30AM explanation is that it's the hub-mounting surface's relation to the cross-section of the wheel (the width).
So, on a wheel with a zero offset, the hub-mounting surface is right in the middle of the wheel. Typically FWD cars have high positive offsets, which means the hub-mounting surface is close to the outside edge of the wheel (the side with the spokes) which usually gives you no wheel lip and flat spokes. Conversely, wheels with negative offsets have hub-mounting surfaces closer to the inside edge, which gives you a huge lip and curved spokes.

For our cars, wheels like the ones you have pictured (probably a 17x7 with a +40 offset) will look sunken in, like a battleship. Some people care about this, others don't. If you dig the wheels and aren't concerned that it isn't flush with the fenders, then rock them. It's all personal style preference. I wouldn't, but I'm kind of a flushness-nazi/weirdo.

[Fibercus]

Flushness is a must, but theres always spacers. But thats good info posted.

[HyperTek]

I think the flushness of rims tells alot about someone fixing up a 240. If the wheels are aftermarket and sunken in, then the person who owns that 240 dont know jack about rims or is just cheap. If someone with a 240 has good wide rims/tires and are deep dish or flush with the fenders, then that person knows a thing about wheel selection and good taste. Narrow tuner rims *the stuff you see in all import magazines* around 17x7 will look funny on 240s. Ive seen people brag about "yah man i got 18s on my 240, tight huh?" where I just wanna slap em for it.

Good example about bad wheel selection - People that dont know much about rim sizes for example, look at hondas in the show scene with widebody kits but without the addition of wider wheels, makes you wonder why the hell did they put widebody in the first place if the tire track is gonna be stock...

You can get good sized rims cheap if you go with used.

[skatanic28]

yeah why not just save up a little more cash and find something that wont be so sunken in. i wish i would have taken that advice but i got a set of alum 15x7 +40 for 30 bucks, so i couldnt pass that up.

[TheSnail]

Talking about offsets. How flush do you think my rear wheels will be when I mount them? 17x9.5 33+ with 275-50-17's . Do you think I will have to roll the fenders or will it fit on my s13?
-Thanks, Snail

[Omnis]

umm....what exactly do you mean by sunken in? are you talking about the tire? because dont wheels with a larger lip appear deep and 'sunken' in....


bah.....i dunno. im clueless with offsets and all that too....but i think i have a good idea now. it's just the above that confused me a little.

lol, i didnt even make this topic and i learned something. thanks salty.


*puts on noob hat*

[Salty_X]

umm....what exactly do you mean by sunken in? are you talking about the tire? because dont wheels with a larger lip appear deep and 'sunken' in....
When people say that a wheel is sunken, they usually mean that the whole wheel is sunken in reference to the fenders. It's possible that they mean it has a sunken face, which would give it a deep lip, but most people don't mean it that way.

Sunken:

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~squier/Car%20New%206.jpg

Crazy Flush:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid105/pa0abe290a9c408c650ff453b2d84f6b4/f97a16ea.jpg

[mk20116]

........
You can get good sized rims cheap if you go with used.

depends. some shops who specialize in wheels can give you good advice about what wheels w/tires fit "flush" and what wouldn't. the ultimate decision would be up to the owner to shell out the cash for them. friends probably are more influential of the decision as well. but then if friends know about wheels then the owner won't get stuck with really bad offsets/sizes.

........en make this topic and i learned something. thanks salty.


*puts on noob hat*.

sunken in i think would be from the fender sunken in. not the actual wheel itself. think about how stock looks, then move the wheel flush with the fender. that would somewhat show flush.

i'm no expert on this subject but knowing wheel sizes/offset does help keep you from expensive mistakes.

[mrmephistopheles]

OH NOESS!!!1111ONE
You sunk my battleship! = wheel looks sunken into the fenders.

[Crab Walker]

There are 4 wheel specs you need to take into account when choosing a set of wheels. In no order:
- Diameter
- Width
- Offset
- Weight

Diameter, width, and weight are pretty easily explained. Offset is a tiny bit more complex, my best 3:30AM explanation is that it's the hub-mounting surface's relation to the cross-section of the wheel (the width).
So, on a wheel with a zero offset, the hub-mounting surface is right in the middle of the wheel. Typically FWD cars have high positive offsets, which means the hub-mounting surface is close to the outside edge of the wheel (the side with the spokes) which usually gives you no wheel lip and flat spokes. Conversely, wheels with negative offsets have hub-mounting surfaces closer to the inside edge, which gives you a huge lip and curved spokes.

For our cars, wheels like the ones you have pictured (probably a 17x7 with a +40 offset) will look sunken in, like a battleship. Some people care about this, others don't. If you dig the wheels and aren't concerned that it isn't flush with the fenders, then rock them. It's all personal style preference. I wouldn't, but I'm kind of a flushness-nazi/weirdo.

Thanks man, I totally understand what you mean now. So are there some kind of spacers you can put on so they dont appear to be so sunken in?

Also, whats a perfect offset for an s13?

[mk20116]

doh. salty beat me to explanation.

that is one sunk wheel

[Tygma]

Thanks man, I totally understand what you mean now. So are there some kind of spacers you can put on so they dont appear to be so sunken in?Also, whats a perfect offset for an s13?

that is where you have to consider width and diameter. the lower the offset(-), the more the wheel will be pushed out towards the fender, the higher the offset(+) the more it will be away from the fender. the correct offset depends more on width than diameter, but if you got a set of wheels that were 17 by 8 -30 offset and your car was low, the fender would pretty much slice a nice gash in the tire over bumps n shit. anyway i'm horrible at explaining stuff like that, just wanted to help.

[oojpeeoo]

Sunken:

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~squier/Car%20New%206.jpg


wut kinda rims u getin and offsets?

[Salty_X]

wut kinda rims u getin and offsets?
That coupe belongs to someone else..

I currently have 8.5 +25 front and 9.5 +30 rear on mine.

[TheTimanator]

Also, whats a perfect offset for an s13?
Depends on width, tire size and camber. Be prepared to roll fender's as well.

[kandyflip445]

And it also depends on what size tire you want to run and if you want stretched tires or non-stretched. I personally don't like stretched but I don't drift or anything like that so it wouldn't benefit me in any way besides having a slightly wider rim.