1999 Nissan Silvia S15 Spec-S

[HERSH3Y]

Please purchase a vendor account to continue selling cars on Zilvia!

[daboilee]

Wondering if ur interested in any trades , if so I got a fully built 379ci lsx procharge s14.. pm for details

[Mos Defff]

Clean and worth every penny!

[Supra Goddess]

Is this car federally legal or only state legal? Clean ride, GLWS

[carlopipia]

Give it to me. Leave my r32 in its place

[rb27dets14]

Is this car federally legal or only state legal? Clean ride, GLWS

I can handle this one....car is STATE titled....

[Sr20SilviaS13]

HEY!! I live in NH. can i come look at it, test drive it and not buy it? hahaha, GL with the sale man! If this was a DET i would have considered buying this!

[Kingtal0n]

Is this car federally legal or only state legal? Clean ride, GLWS

there are no federally legal S15 silvias in the USA. Any customs and border patrol officer can seize this vehicle at any minute.

[jk26]

there are no federally legal S15 silvias in the USA. Any customs and border patrol officer can seize this vehicle at any minute.

Your wrong someone on here has one of the very few motorex s15's, and I believe there was more then one that they were able to federally legalize…(grandfathered in)

GLWS OP its a very nice example

[EDT007]

Your wrong someone on here has one of the very few motorex s15's, and I believe there was more then one that they were able to federally legalize…(grandfathered in)

GLWS OP its a very nice example

I don't want to get off-topic (sorry OP) but you shouldn't speak of what you do not know of for certain. Motorex was PLANNING to try and legalize the S15 before they went down the crapper. There is NO LEGALIZED S15's in the US...PERIOD! Someone buys the car assuming they know it's only a state titled car and can be seized which from the sound of it is unlikely. GLWS OP! Beautiful car.

PS - I hope you don't mean this guy or thread (http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=73477). It's clear he's full of it.

[HERSH3Y]

Here we go.....

Everyone knows everything about importing and laws and this and that. Everyone needs to voice their opinion and knowledge to be heard and feel important.

I have 13 JDM cars currently. 5 of which are titled, registered, insured, and inspected. I've had JDM cars titled at my address for the past 4 years. No issues, EVER.

Please keep all of the legality comments out of the thread. You can read through the 10 pages of my last f/s thread if you want to talk about it.

[Scope240sx]

this is a clean car brotha! im sure a blast to drive. GLWS
Driving from RI to CA would be awesome, someone buy it and make a road trip thread!

[dudermagee]

Who is blacked out motorsports?

[HERSH3Y]

Who is blacked out motorsports?

WHAT sounds more appropriate seeing how Blacked Out Motorsports consists of a small group of friends.

[jk26]

I don't want to get off-topic (sorry OP) but you shouldn't speak of what you do not know of for certain. Motorex was PLANNING to try and legalize the S15 before they went down the crapper. There is NO LEGALIZED S15's in the US...PERIOD! Someone buys the car assuming they know it's only a state titled car and can be seized which from the sound of it is unlikely. GLWS OP! Beautiful car.

PS - I hope you don't mean this guy or thread (http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=73477). It's clear he's full of it.

They had s15's over here that the government grandfathered in as legal the owner of the one on this forum is garagelu he has a build thread on the forum for this car.. If you have never owned a jdm car then you really shouldn't talk. I have and never had any issues myself.

OP GOODLUCK WITH SALE YOUR GONNA NEED WITH THESE KIDDIES ON THIS SITE AND SORRY TO CLUTTER THE THREAD..

[Standard]

Nice car man, good luck with the sale!

quick question though, I was under the impression that in Japan the late model s14's and s15's came stock with the same four piston front calipers, so why z32 brakes?

[rb27dets14]

Kingtalon...why do you feel the need to shit in every Jdm car Fs thread?hes obviously shown the mods the needed paperwork to have the car posted here for sale....

[s1dways]

Kingtalon...why do you feel the need to shit in every Jdm car Fs thread?hes obviously shown the mods the needed paperwork to have the car posted here for sale....

because jealous.

[Vandrel]

jk26, I'm not sure where you heard that S15's were legal or that MotoRex did any but that is 100% incorrect. The S15 was never made legal for import. No import eligibility code was ever issued for the S15 as the S15 was never crash tested and no one ever developed a OBDII system for it.

Here we go.....

Everyone knows everything about importing and laws and this and that. Everyone needs to voice their opinion and knowledge to be heard and feel important.

I have 13 JDM cars currently. 5 of which are titled, registered, insured, and inspected. I've had JDM cars titled at my address for the past 4 years. No issues, EVER.

Please keep all of the legality comments out of the thread. You can read through the 10 pages of my last f/s thread if you want to talk about it.

Not to crap on your thread here but people are asking these questions for a legitimate reason. You are selling an illegal car, end of story. There is no such thing as "state legal". There is federally legal and illegal. It was either imported legally or smuggled into the country. A state DMV does not have the capacity to say if something was legally imported, they just title things based on state requirements. That won't protect you from having the car seized. It may not happen now or in a month but nothing prevents it from happening in the future at anytime, even after it's 25 years old.

S15 was never crash tested and approved for import as a motor vehicle. NHTSA, CBP, DHS, ICE, etc would all rain down on this car if they found out about it. People ask if it's federally legal because if it's not ANYONE can seize the car at ANYTIME until you pony up proof of legal import (HS7,3520-1,etc) which the government knows you don't have anyway. Given that this car is newer than 25 years of age it requires a Registered Importer as well as Independent Commercial Importer as well as fitted with OBDII after NHTSA approves of the vehicle for import and assigns it a import eligibility number (example: VCP32 for Nissan Skyline R33 GTS and GTR).

Slipping the car in the country and getting a state title for it does not constitute being legal. In fact, anyone associated with introducing that car into the country could be found guilty of smuggling (18 U.S. Code § 545 ).

For reference, here's a public notice for a R34 GTT that was seized a few months ago in WA because someone tried to slip it into the country from Canada


CBP OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION POSTED ON JUNE 02, 2014
LEGAL NOTICE
NOTICE OF SEIZURE AND INTENT TO FORFEIT
(NON-CAFRA)
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION
- Notice
is hereby given as required by 19 U.S.C. § 1607 and 19 C.F.R. 162.45 of
the seizure and intent to forfeit and sell, or otherwise dispose of
according to law, the property described below which is determined to
be used in or related to a violation of United States law. Any person
having a legal interest therein and desiring to claim any of the listed
property must appear at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection,
Attention: Fines,
Penalties and Forfeitures Officer, U.S. CBP / ATTN:FPFO, 9901 PACIFIC
HWY, BLAINE, WA 98230
within 30 days of the date of the first publication/posting and file a
claim and cost bond in the sum of $5,000.00 or 10 percent of the value
of the property, whichever is lower, but not less than $250.00. Unless
such a claim is received by the above office by close of business on
the date indicated below, the property will be declared forfeit to the
United States and disposed of in accordance with the law.
PUBLICATION/POSTING START:
DEADLINE TO FILE A CLAIM:
May 30, 2014
June 28, 2014
BLAINE, WA
2014300400018301-001-0000, Seized on 03/25/2014; At the port of BLAINE,
WA; 1999 NISSAN SKYLINE; 1; EA;
VIN# ER34020650; Valued at $16,500.00; For violation of
19USC1595A(A),19USC1595A(C),18USC545,42USC7522,49U SC301129(A)


Why am I posting in response to this thread? Because the last thing I want to see is someone purchase a car without knowing all the facts. By not informing people of these facts it stands to be a shitty sale for whoever picks it up and potentially runs into trouble after the sale is complete. Remember, after the person buys the car they have to try and reassign the title into their name in their state, what's going to happen if their state DMV asks them for customs clearance papers and a bond release?

If you are going to sell it, fine, just tell people all the facts and don't try to mask it as something it's not. I don't really care how you are ending up with the cars you are stating you have but just be aware that this type of thing does not go unnoticed in the community.

http://skylineownersusa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23153

I did not read your previous thread so maybe it's a possibility that this information was already disclosed but I did not see it here.

I did not come on here to deter people from buying your car but more so to ensure that the facts surrounding the car's status are transparent and not hidden. It is a nice car but please label the car for what it is, not what sounds nice and helps pass it on to some unsuspecting buyer. If you feel the need to question my expertise on this topic that is fine.

If someone wanted to pick this car up in hopes to get it legal later they can but it'd be a cat and mouse risk game hoping you don't get a visit about it. Once this car turns 25 years old it isn't automatically legal, you'd need to drive it out of the country and then bring it back in properly through US Customs. So it's not a total loss, there's just a 10 year wait until it's legal status can be fixed.

If you don't mind these facts than maybe this is the car for you. Plenty of people are willing to accept those terms of ownership.

Good luck and again it is a nice car and looks like it was taken care of.

[EDT007]

They had s15's over here that the government grandfathered in as legal the owner of the one on this forum is garagelu he has a build thread on the forum for this car.. If you have never owned a jdm car then you really shouldn't talk. I have and never had any issues myself.

OP GOODLUCK WITH SALE YOUR GONNA NEED WITH THESE KIDDIES ON THIS SITE AND SORRY TO CLUTTER THE THREAD..

Kiddies? Grow up! Like I said, do some research before you go talking about stuff you clearly don't know. This is the ad that GarageLu bought his car from. (http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=379434). Where in there does it state that the car is federally bonded or federally legalized? In fact, one person in the thread even comments on it. I'm done cluttering this thread. If you want to discuss further please feel free to PM me.

[rb27dets14]

You guys are just thread shitters....anyone looking at an s15 knows that they are not fed. Legal....you don't need to post your useless rants to try and make yourself feel better after having your own car seized....you and everyone else on this forum know how this goes by now....now that this thread is ruined just like that last one I'm sure he will be asked to make another one....the mods have their new policy reguarding sales of "gray market" vehicles here... this car meets all there requirements and then some so fuck off and go make a legality thread in the proper area because noone gives a shit....WE ALLREADY KNOW!!!!!

[240KA]

rb27dets14, kindly shut the fuck up. i'm not gonna waste my time arguing with you since it seems as though you're already way up HERSH3Y's ass.

Vandrel's post was informative and undoubtedly relevant.

[rb27dets14]

rb27dets14, kindly shut the fuck up. i'm not gonna waste my time arguing with you since it seems as though you're already way up HERSH3Y's ass.

Vandrel's post was informative and undoubtedly relevant.

Hershey's a friend and honestly I'm pretty well sick of the bullshit in all the threads I've sold many cars here and I don't waste my time posting them anymore because all this forum does it waste time...

There's NO need to shit in the thread if you feel your information is informative I have an idea....do a write up on what's legal and what's not per chassis per year ect. Then submit it to the mods and I'm sure if its important it will then become a sticky at the top of this lovely for sale section...

[s1dways]

jk26, I'm not sure where you heard that S15's were legal or that MotoRex did any but that is 100% incorrect. The S15 was never made legal for import. No import eligibility code was ever issued for the S15 as the S15 was never crash tested and no one ever developed a OBDII system for it.



Not to crap on your thread here but people are asking these questions for a legitimate reason. You are selling an illegal car, end of story. There is no such thing as "state legal". There is federally legal and illegal. It was either imported legally or smuggled into the country. A state DMV does not have the capacity to say if something was legally imported, they just title things based on state requirements. That won't protect you from having the car seized. It may not happen now or in a month but nothing prevents it from happening in the future at anytime, even after it's 25 years old.

S15 was never crash tested and approved for import as a motor vehicle. NHTSA, CBP, DHS, ICE, etc would all rain down on this car if they found out about it. People ask if it's federally legal because if it's not ANYONE can seize the car at ANYTIME until you pony up proof of legal import (HS7,3520-1,etc) which the government knows you don't have anyway. Given that this car is newer than 25 years of age it requires a Registered Importer as well as Independent Commercial Importer as well as fitted with OBDII after NHTSA approves of the vehicle for import and assigns it a import eligibility number (example: VCP32 for Nissan Skyline R33 GTS and GTR).

Slipping the car in the country and getting a state title for it does not constitute being legal. In fact, anyone associated with introducing that car into the country could be found guilty of smuggling (18 U.S. Code § 545 ).

For reference, here's a public notice for a R34 GTT that was seized a few months ago in WA because someone tried to slip it into the country from Canada



Why am I posting in response to this thread? Because the last thing I want to see is someone purchase a car without knowing all the facts. By not informing people of these facts it stands to be a shitty sale for whoever picks it up and potentially runs into trouble after the sale is complete. Remember, after the person buys the car they have to try and reassign the title into their name in their state, what's going to happen if their state DMV asks them for customs clearance papers and a bond release?

If you are going to sell it, fine, just tell people all the facts and don't try to mask it as something it's not. I don't really care how you are ending up with the cars you are stating you have but just be aware that this type of thing does not go unnoticed in the community.

http://skylineownersusa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23153

I did not read your previous thread so maybe it's a possibility that this information was already disclosed but I did not see it here.

I did not come on here to deter people from buying your car but more so to ensure that the facts surrounding the car's status are transparent and not hidden. It is a nice car but please label the car for what it is, not what sounds nice and helps pass it on to some unsuspecting buyer. If you feel the need to question my expertise on this topic that is fine.

If someone wanted to pick this car up in hopes to get it legal later they can but it'd be a cat and mouse risk game hoping you don't get a visit about it. Once this car turns 25 years old it isn't automatically legal, you'd need to drive it out of the country and then bring it back in properly through US Customs. So it's not a total loss, there's just a 10 year wait until it's legal status can be fixed.

If you don't mind these facts than maybe this is the car for you. Plenty of people are willing to accept those terms of ownership.

Good luck and again it is a nice car and looks like it was taken care of.

Although what you are stating in your post might have some relevance to it, you seem to quote things that haven't even been said. It seems like you're going on more of a tangent rant, than anything else. I'm not going to start any unnecessary drama, just some of what you're saying is very unnecessary and demeaning to the thread.

rb27dets14, kindly shut the fuck up. i'm not gonna waste my time arguing with you since it seems as though you're already way up HERSH3Y's ass.

Vandrel's post was informative and undoubtedly relevant.

Are you going to post anything positive to this thread? Do you have the means to purchase this car? Are you actually interested in buying an s15 soon? By the fact you didn't post anything hinting so, I suggest you go waste your time elsewhere.

[Mighty Mouse]

There's NO need to shit in the thread if you feel your information is informative I have an idea....do a write up on what's legal and what's not per chassis per year ect. Then submit it to the mods and I'm sure if its important it will then become a sticky at the top of this lovely for sale section...

This. Leave the man alone, the old thread was bad enough, no need to drag this one through the mud again.

[g35gabby]

Love to see the friends of the OP backing him up. all the while your buddy is selling something illegal to posses in this country and from the sounds of it does this on a regular basis.

PS https://www.facebook.com/Blackedoutmotorsports sounds like you need a vendor account well you are at it.

[Standard]

why on every gtr/silvia etc. for sale thread everyone feels the need to have the same pointless discussion time after time, its getting old guys. everyone knows all of this!

[Vandrel]

You guys are just thread shitters....anyone looking at an s15 knows that they are not fed. Legal

That is where you are wrong. Everyone doesn't know this car is illegal because too many people try to sell them and don't tell the buyers that they are illegal. Telling the buyer "well it's titled and I've never had any problems" isn't good enough. Illegal is illegal, there is no half way legal or grey market state titled legal. The term "state legal" was a term drafted up by people who owned illegal cars looking for a nicer term to place on their cars. I'm not bashing people who own those types of cars because I have myself as well in the past. The problem is with the people who try to pass these cars over to people who don't know the facts about the legality of them.

You can say people know all you want but you are wrong, not everyone knows and it should be the seller's duty to inform people what he is trying to sell. I see this a lot and you really don't understand how many people join the SkylineOwnersUSA.com community every week only to ask questions about what they should do with their newly purchased "state titled" car that has no title or their local DMV confiscated the title asking for import paperwork. This is nothing new.

I think you still don't understand what I stated earlier, if it's not federal legal it's illegal. It's like trying to sell a stolen car and say it was barrowed and you've never had any problems driving it around, it's still a stolen car and will eventually be taken once someone finds out about it.

I'm not shitting on this thread, I said it was a nice car and it is, but I don't care to see people trying to offload illegal cars and not tell everyone what it is that they are trying to sell.

Hershey's a friend and honestly I'm pretty well sick of the bullshit in all the threads I've sold many cars here and I don't waste my time posting them anymore because all this forum does it waste time...

There's NO need to shit in the thread if you feel your information is informative I have an idea....do a write up on what's legal and what's not per chassis per year ect. Then submit it to the mods and I'm sure if its important it will then become a sticky at the top of this lovely for sale section...


I'm glad he's a friend and you are here to back him up but that still doesn't change the circumstances of the car.

Quite frankly, there is no need to do a write up about this information, it's already done in countless other threads here. The problem is people will still continue to try and sell illegal cars and mask the information behind those cars and someone will eventually buy it and not know what they've just bought because no one told them.

I'm certainly not saying don't sell the car or don't buy the car. There's plenty of people out there who don't give a damn if the car is illegal or not and they will buy it knowing the risk involved. All I ask is if you're selling something like that just tell people what it is, don't try and misrepresent or paint a turd gold.

Although what you are stating in your post might have some relevance to it, you seem to quote things that haven't even been said. It seems like you're going on more of a tangent rant, than anything else. I'm not going to start any unnecessary drama, just some of what you're saying is very unnecessary and demeaning to the thread.

Are you going to post anything positive to this thread? Do you have the means to purchase this car? Are you actually interested in buying an s15 soon? By the fact you didn't post anything hinting so, I suggest you go waste your time elsewhere.

What I've stated has every bit of relevance to it. In fact the seller should have taken it upon himself to list that information. The method used to list the car is something I see all the time and is used specifically to mask the nature in which the car was brought into the country which is smuggling. It's not a rant, it's the facts and people need to understand that.

Unless of course you mean to tell me you'd go buy a car from someone and not check to see if the title is real or the VIN matches the vehicle or that the person selling the car is the owner of the car or if the car even runs or run a CARFAX on the car. This is Car Buying 101, the stuff your dad teaches you when you are 16 and wanting to buy your first car.


Love to see the friends of the OP backing him up. all the while your buddy is selling something illegal to posses in this country and from the sounds of it does this on a regular basis.

PS https://www.facebook.com/Blackedoutmotorsports sounds like you need a vendor account well you are at it.

Exactly


why on every gtr/silvia etc. for sale thread everyone feels the need to have the same pointless discussion time after time, its getting old guys. everyone knows all of this!

Does no one here care that people illegally bring cars into the country and try to dump them on unsuspecting buyers who then are running around with a car that's forever at risk of being seized and ending up in a total loss forfeiture?

Why do you see this kind of stuff all the time on here? Because people can't stop breaking the law and trying to dump illegal cars onto people. If people would stop doing that then you wouldn't see people coming onto these posts trying to inform everyone that something is illegal.

It's really that simple, stop breaking the law.

Again, I'm not saying don't buy the car. If the risk involved doesn't bother you then buy it! Plenty of people buy these types of cars.

[s1dways]

What I've stated has every bit of relevance to it. In fact the seller should have taken it upon himself to list that information. The method used to list the car is something I see all the time and is used specifically to mask the nature in which the car was brought into the country which is smuggling. It's not a rant, it's the facts and people need to understand that.

Unless of course you mean to tell me you'd go buy a car from someone and not check to see if the title is real or the VIN matches the vehicle or that the person selling the car is the owner of the car or if the car even runs or run a CARFAX on the car. This is Car Buying 101, the stuff your dad teaches you when you are 16 and wanting to buy your first car.



If you read the old thread and this, you would have had seen the seller go as far to post a picture of the title. I haven't seen any valid information being withheld. If I'm not mistaken you currently own a 1990 GT-R (24 years old, and technically when next year rolls around you still can't "legally" title it)? Also a past owner of an r33? But you're the one to talk down about owning "illegal" cars right?

[Noxy]

If you read the old thread and this, you would have had seen the seller go as far to post a picture of the title. I haven't seen any valid information being withheld. If I'm not mistaken you currently own a 1990 GT-R (24 years old, and technically when next year rolls around you still can't "legally" title it)? Also a past owner of an r33? But you're the one to talk down about owning "illegal" cars right?

He showed a title, yes, but a state titled vehicle doesn't mean it's federally legal, as it's been stated many times in this thread alone.

Vandrel and the others aren't saying they're against the sale or ownership of these illegal cars, they're asking for the seller and buyers to acknowledge the risk associated with purchasing and owning such cars, and not just brush it aside as "I have a state title, I'm good" or "I've owned XX amount of JDM cars and I've never had issues." Also, Vandrel has said that he's owned such cars and that he was aware of the risk.

I've read both threads and all I've seen is people bringing up the same valid legal information, then people asking them not to shit on the thread when this is a very real issue. Dropping $19,000 on a car that could disappear at any moment, no matter how unlikely the OP and his friends say it is, is a risk. If that risk sounds within your bounds, go for it! If not, don't go for it!

All that being said, I hope the car goes to a good, safe home and that we can all get on the same page and back to the sale!

[mdma]

Okay. Enough of all this nonsense. Hersh3y, you have a beautiful car and I would like to get In contact with you about sale. I tried pm'ing you but no luck. My number is 402eight four zero 94three five. Texts preferred. Name is Khoa.

[g35gabby]

If you read the old thread and this, you would have had seen the seller go as far to post a picture of the title. I haven't seen any valid information being withheld. If I'm not mistaken you currently own a 1990 GT-R (24 years old, and technically when next year rolls around you still can't "legally" title it)? Also a past owner of an r33? But you're the one to talk down about owning "illegal" cars right?

you Should do more reading. Steve's 90 GTR is a NISMO, which is a limited production car and imported legally under the show and display exception. This S15 doesn't qualify for this as it isn't a limited production car (standard is 500 or less production models).

Steve's R33 was taken by ICE as it was imported illegally 3 (maybe it was 4) owners before him. He exported that car because it was brought in illegal here (same deal here with this S15). There was a several articles on the subject and when he speaks to the pain and frustration of dealing with an illegal act done by a previous owner it doesn't get much more real for him. You can find the stories of his car all over the interwebs with a little reading and it isn't anything he has shied away from since the day I have known him.

Clearly you aren't qualified to even comment on the subject, as state titled isn't fed legal, EPA legal, or anything else steve has been talking about. He is continuing to talk about these things even though it has been covered to death why? because of people like yourself that don't know what is/isn't legal. Why waste his time? because he wants everyone to be aware what the risks are because it wasn't offered to him when he got his R33.

PS just curious, do you know what an HS7 is? would you know what it looked like if it was offered to you when you purchased a DR30? This isn't anything your average 240sx will ever have, as it isn't needed as it was legally imported by Nissan. The DR30.... not so much. It gets even more exciting when you have a JDM FD3s, and compare it to a USDM FD3s, but I will just stop here.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/218/related/1/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNDAyMTEyMzA3L3NpZC9qQlNkYWJXbA%3D% 3D/~/importing-a-car-or-vehicle---obtaining-epa-form-3520-1-and-dot-form-hs-7

[Th3AznWei27]

I'll give you 17,500 cash for the car.

[rb27dets14]

you Should do more reading. Steve's 90 GTR is a NISMO, which is a limited production car and imported legally under the show and display exception. This S15 doesn't qualify for this as it isn't a limited production car (standard is 500 or less production models).

Steve's R33 was taken by ICE as it was imported illegally 3 (maybe it was 4) owners before him. He exported that car because it was brought in illegal here (same deal here with this S15). There was a several articles on the subject and when he speaks to the pain and frustration of dealing with an illegal act done by a previous owner it doesn't get much more real for him. You can find the stories of his car all over the interwebs with a little reading and it isn't anything he has shied away from since the day I have known him.

Clearly you aren't qualified to even comment on the subject, as state titled isn't fed legal, EPA legal, or anything else steve has been talking about. He is continuing to talk about these things even though it has been covered to death why? because of people like yourself that don't know what is/isn't legal. Why waste his time? because he wants everyone to be aware what the risks are because it wasn't offered to him when he got his R33.

PS just curious, do you know what an HS7 is? would you know what it looked like if it was offered to you when you purchased a DR30? This isn't anything your average 240sx will ever have, as it isn't needed as it was legally imported by Nissan. The DR30.... not so much. It gets even more exciting when you have a JDM FD3s, and compare it to a USDM FD3s, but I will just stop here.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/218/related/1/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNDAyMTEyMzA3L3NpZC9qQlNkYWJXbA%3D% 3D/~/importing-a-car-or-vehicle---obtaining-epa-form-3520-1-and-dot-form-hs-7


Another tool to just shit in a thread...shut the fuck up already this is rediculass!!!!! your gonna come back with something smart...reallll intelligent...something that took you hours to come up with.....just save it for next time or maybe make your own thread and post it there.

[rb27dets14]

I'll give you 17,500 cash for the car.

Pm him if your serious....who makes a cash offer in a post?

[Kingcof22]

bump.. because i enjoy reading this and the older thread.. glws

[g35gabby]

Another tool to just shit in a thread...shut the fuck up already this is rediculass!!!!! your gonna come back with something smart...reallll intelligent...something that took you hours to come up with.....just save it for next time or maybe make your own thread and post it there.

lol hours? steve is 8 mins from my house. I know him very well, I also happen to in the process of legally imported my R32, I will be landing in J-ville on the 10th of August. Forgive me if I did a little reading and did a little research on things that interest me.

I do appreciate how you have such love for your friend. That is so cute....

[that_one_coupe]

Thanks for the information posted guys and gals. I really appreciate it.

If they're willing to spend their own time to inform people then that's their problem. There's no reason to get irritated because an interested buyer will inquire anyways. They're just leveling the playing field.

[rb27dets14]

They are trying to ruin a market that works for most because they are sore about them or someone they know losing their car....

[that_one_coupe]

They are trying to ruin a market that works for most because they are sore about them or someone they know losing their car....

Who's in the market for a surprise tow?

[rb27dets14]

Are u intrested?if not why post?

[mdma]

Bump. Awaiting for reply hoping to make this strictly a track car.

[Vandrel]

They are trying to ruin a market that works for most because they are sore about them or someone they know losing their car....

Really? I never realized that breaking the law was actually a market. I mean I knew it carried jail time and caused people to lose money but I never really knew people considered that a market.

Next time try actually reading what I post instead of jumping to conclusions with excuses ;)

You can get brony with Gabby all you want, she purchased her car the right way.

[rb27dets14]

Really? I never realized that breaking the law was actually a market. I mean I knew it carried jail time and caused people to lose money but I never really knew people considered that a market.

Next time try actually reading what I post instead of jumping to conclusions with excuses ;)

You can get brony with Gabby all you want, she purchased her car the right way.

I read it all...it's not any of your business to clutter the thread with nonsense... Chances are if your on zilvia you know how this goes already...when he's asked to make another new thread are you going to post your paragraphs of crap there to?

[BoostSlideWayz]

Besides what everone is saying about the legality of the car its nice.

Its a given that your taking a risk when driving an imported car that was never sold here. Anyone purchasing the car should realize that and take it into serious consideration.

My friend here in california had two JDM cars, a Silvia like this one and a TT supra. Im sure some people on the forum remember his situation, pretty much he worked in the customs and importing company busineses which benefited him of owning these cars without getting crap from law enforcement. But soon after he apparently lost or quit that job and they immediately obligated him to destroy or pay for shipping charges to send them back to Japan.

The other option was to have them destroyed. Even though it was heart breaking to make either decision it wouldn't cost him to have them destroyed. So he took that route. Some people complained to him about " why didn't you part it out ? " well apparently they were keeping very close taps on him making sure he didnt attempt that.


Moral of the story... No matter what you do.. and how much paper work your try to get to make the car legitimate in the US.. It wont be... Atleast until the 25 year rule arrives for this car. There will always be the option of it being impounded and seized.

I see so many people that wonder how to legalize this car and how to go about paper work and what not. But in the end, thats all useless because its not gonna make a difference if the law enforcement wants the car seized ..


So keep that in mind... But that doesnt make the car anyless valuable, this is a great deal and it deserves a good owner that wants to take care of it.

If i could buy it, i would actually travel from california to pick it up and i wouldn't even try to haggle. I'd give OP the asking price without question.

Good luck on the sell. Great awesome looking car and a dream car.

[Vandrel]

I read it all...it's not any of your business to clutter the thread with nonsense

Why does this all sound so much like that MC.Understeer kid?

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=500754

Chances are if your on zilvia you know how this goes already

Chances are you are wrong. Chances are most people don't know and would easily get duped into buying something like this not having the slightest clue of the risks involved.

when he's asked to make another new thread are you going to post your paragraphs of crap there to?

If you're friend decides to mask the information on how a illegal car illegally entered the country and is for sale illegally then sure. Unless of course you're happy and content with someone potentially getting ripped off.

The more I sit here and google Blacked Out Motorsports the more I just shake my head. Why is this even allowed to be posted for sale on here? The more I read on other forums about these people the more it's just looking like another fly by night illegal import scheme that everyone warns people about.

Here's a great example, http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56249
There's more incriminating information in there then you can shake a stick at.

More, http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/47-northeast/42244-ma-roll-call-22.html

I get this response from pretty much everyone who "knows about Skylines". Yes, the car was legally imported, and yes, it cleared US Customs. Yes, I have the paperwork which states this. No, you can't just walk into the DMV and get this car titled- it's a very expensive process that takes quite a while. If it were that simple, everyone would be doing it. Selling a car without a title is also not illegal. I suggest you spend some time reading through the forums about this as it's covered pretty in depth before making accusations and spouting off things that just aren't true, rather than just basing things off your "feeling".

I mean come on guys, do I even need to comment on what's wrong with that statement?


In a nut shell, we trailer the car to FL, where it undergoes an inspection at the DMV. After it passes (documentation is supplied stating it passed), a titled is issued, and we then trailer the car back home. The car can then be titled in any other state just as every other car.

Really? Gee, I'm actually a licensed dealer in the state of FL and I can tell you that's wrong on so many levels.

Feel free to read more from Blacked Out Motorsports on those links.

[dorkidori_s13]

I read it all...it's not any of your business to clutter the thread with nonsense... Chances are if your on zilvia you know how this goes already...when he's asked to make another new thread are you going to post your paragraphs of crap there to?

Im sick of your shit in this thread! All youve done is run your mouth! Go sit in time out for 2 weeks. Ive had numerous complaints about you from members using this thread and frankly all of your responses wreak of poor attitude, cynicism and ignorance!

[dorkidori_s13]

Im gonna go ahead and lock this thread... again.

There seems to be way too much controversy over ONE car. Ive looked into the OP a bit, and sir, you are flipping cars. If you want to continue selling cars on Zilvia, you will need to go thru the proper channels of obtaining a vendor account.


https://www.facebook.com/Blackedoutmotorsports

Here we go.....

Everyone knows everything about importing and laws and this and that. Everyone needs to voice their opinion and knowledge to be heard and feel important.

I have 13 JDM cars currently. 5 of which are titled, registered, insured, and inspected. I've had JDM cars titled at my address for the past 4 years. No issues, EVER.

Please keep all of the legality comments out of the thread. You can read through the 10 pages of my last f/s thread if you want to talk about it.



Post this car for sale again and I will happily ban you from the market place...bye bye