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ZsoonJr
02-27-2014, 06:07 PM
Hey everyone, new around here. First of all i'd like to apologize in advance because i wasn't sure where to post this, i did a quick over view and didn't find a buying/lease section and i wasn't sure to post it in the s14 only thread. Anyways.

http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/4282015343.html

The link is to a s14 in my area, im in the market for a new car and came across this. I had alot of choices when looking for a new ride, first it was the G35 but 6MT coupe seem to be extremely rare in AZ.

Long story short and many potential buys later, i am now stuck between a 350z and the s14. Im heavily leaning towards the s14 because i've always loved the car and wanted one but i wanted to have you guys check it out first for any possible red flags that i might of over looked.

It has a swapped sr20 which is great because that saves me money/time, but is there anything i should look for that could show signs of abuse or extreme wear? I spoke with the guy and he says the car is in great shape, hes never had a problem while owning it ( roughly over a year ) says the owner before him did the rebuild so im assuming it has low miles on it but he did say that the chassis is around 270k.

This will be my daily driver,so this cant be a headache of never ending fixes should i just go with the Z for reliability? :blah: sorry for such a long post. Thanks in advance.

fliprayzin240sx
02-27-2014, 06:14 PM
Hey everyone, new around here. First of all i'd like to apologize in advance because i wasn't sure where to post this, i did a quick over view and didn't find a buying/lease section and i wasn't sure to post it in the s14 only thread. Anyways.

http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/4282015343.html

The link is to a s14 in my area, im in the market for a new car and came across this. I had alot of choices when looking for a new ride, first it was the G35 but 6MT coupe seem to be extremely rare in AZ.

Long story short and many potential buys later, i am now stuck between a 350z and the s14. Im heavily leaning towards the s14 because i've always loved the car and wanted one but i wanted to have you guys check it out first for any possible red flags that i might of over looked.

It has a swapped sr20 which is great because that saves me money/time, but is there anything i should look for that could show signs of abuse or extreme wear? I spoke with the guy and he says the car is in great shape, hes never had a problem while owning it ( roughly over a year ) says the owner before him did the rebuild so im assuming it has low miles on it but he did say that the chassis is around 270k.

This will be my daily driver,so this cant be a headache of never ending fixes should i just go with the Z for reliability? :blah: sorry for such a long post. Thanks in advance.

These cars are definitely not for you...go buy a civic for a daily.

ZsoonJr
02-27-2014, 06:21 PM
These cars are definitely not for you...go buy a civic for a daily.

Care to elaborate?

If all silvia's are never ending money pits, i don't see how they can be such a popular car, and have such a good rep.

RalliartRsX
02-27-2014, 06:27 PM
..................Wait, the US has Silvias?!?! Where?!?!

ZsoonJr
02-27-2014, 06:32 PM
..................Wait, the US has Silvias?!?! Where?!?!

Hmm tough crowd..

Kouki_m0n5t3r
02-27-2014, 06:43 PM
It is never going to go away people calling the US spec s13s and s14s Silvias, it is easier to just go with it vs explaining it every time. Lol.

As for the OP..yeah if you want a reliable daily..don't get a 240..it doesn't matter what the seller says..you never truly know the history. And with these cars being so popular (not reliable or so much good rep) but popular, 9 times out of 10..they are beat on. That one you're looking at..okay the motor is rebuilt etc..sounds good. But the chassis has 270k right? The motor is not the only thing that takes on wear and tear from age. There is a whole car that goes with that motor, lol. And for $8500...you can get a very nice daily for that. I understand a liking for these cars..but you have to think long term. They are not going to go away anytime soon. I would suggest getting you a nice daily and then when you get some side money saved up..buy one if you really want one.

Don't get me wrong, that is not to say that specific seller is "that guy"..but again..if you want a reliable daily..don't get a 240, lol. Hell I just posted a thread in tech because mine is acting up. And I barely post.

Kingtal0n
02-27-2014, 06:54 PM
unless you find a low mileage kouki. Rare as platinum but they exist. I have one with 50,000 original miles for $11,000. Got a few mods, too.

JBB
02-27-2014, 07:00 PM
the 350z is a slow, fat turd. I would go with an s14 for sure, but as mentioned maybe have another means of transportation available. You dont need to be a mechanic, as long as you have some tools and enough education to read and apply what you read to the real world then you can fix most issues yourself


EDIT:
He's running 750cc injectors and hks stage 2 cams with adjustable gears but does not mention any tuning or even what turbo he is running
side mount intercooler
CROWEL retainers??
4" exhaust? maybe the exit diameter...

----PASS

ZsoonJr
02-27-2014, 07:00 PM
It is never going to go away people calling the US spec s13s and s14s Silvias, it is easier to just go with it vs explaining it every time. Lol.

As for the OP..yeah if you want a reliable daily..don't get a 240..it doesn't matter what the seller says..you never truly know the history. And with these cars being so popular (not reliable or so much good rep) but popular, 9 times out of 10..they are beat on. That one you're looking at..okay the motor is rebuilt etc..sounds good. But the chassis has 270k right? The motor is not the only thing that takes on wear and tear from age. There is a whole car that goes with that motor, lol. And for $8500...you can get a very nice daily for that. I understand a liking for these cars..but you have to think long term. They are not going to go away anytime soon. I would suggest getting you a nice daily and then when you get some side money saved up..buy one if you really want one.

Don't get me wrong, that is not to say that specific seller is "that guy"..but again..if you want a reliable daily..don't get a 240, lol. Hell I just posted a thread in tech because mine is acting up. And I barely post.

Thanks for the response. As you can obviously tell i'm shopping for a DD but something fun to mess around in as well, I dont mind fixing little tedious things here and their that most " 240sx :facepalm: " face as im not mechanically disabled. When i question reliability i question is the motor gonna seize up on me on my way home after buying it or is a piston gonna shoot through the hood. Anything that could create a serious dent in my wallet and as a student my wallet is pretty dented.

Obviously non of us are going to know any of this until its test driven but i thought i'd see what this forum's 2cents were. However if you all are stickin to yer' guns and say its not a reliable ride then ill heed your warnings.

Edit : oh and also i wouldn't pay anything near 8500, i would ask 6500 off the bat.

hardtime21
02-27-2014, 07:06 PM
If you just so happen to buy a 240, you should start bone stock. Buying a built car could be a big problem if you are in over your head. By starting with a bone stock car (which could be a very reliable daily), you have the opportunity to grasp what you're getting into. Building a good car gives you a since of appreciation and accomplishment. Judging by the post and this is not to be rude but a 240 may NOT be your cup of tea. I hate to see someone buy a car and not know what they have. Research is key! My car when I bought it was bone stock with......cough cough...... 22000 miles on it. I got lucky with this car and it took me 5 years to find it. I still thank the older lady that babied my car when I bought it for $2800. Again, take the time to research instead of asking the masses. You sir will be flamed for asking the masses! Lol and good luck!

Bamjam
02-27-2014, 07:29 PM
I found my 98 with 70 miles, been the best little daily for me.

fliprayzin240sx
02-27-2014, 07:32 PM
Care to elaborate?

If all silvia's are never ending money pits, i don't see how they can be such a popular car, and have such a good rep.

Would you really expect a 17 yr old car to be issue free? Would it be a car with never ending fixes? It could be...lots of wear and tear parts between bushings, seals, suspension, etc. Then throw into the mix of an SR swap, then you get into the unknowns. Who rebuilt it, how well was it rebuilt, why the hell does it have 750cc injectors and exactly what is tuning it?!?! Car got too many questions for some body who doesnt know too much about S-chassis. Would I buy it? $8500 for an SR swapped Kouki S14 isn't too bad of a deal.

Fuego
02-27-2014, 07:34 PM
As you can obviously tell i'm shopping for a DD but something fun to mess around in as well, I dont mind fixing little tedious things here and their that most " 240sx :facepalm: " face as im not mechanically disabled. When i question reliability i question is the motor gonna seize up on me on my way home after buying it or is a piston gonna shoot through the hood. Anything that could create a serious dent in my wallet and as a student my wallet is pretty dented.

First off, your project and your daily should never be the same car m'kay? Second buy a stock civic, let it ride you through college, buy 240 after school. Use the money saved by getting the civic and invest and/or pay off student loans.

brndck
02-27-2014, 07:45 PM
The 240 is an extraordinarily reliable vehicle IF YOU LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE.
The problem is that no one ever leaves them stock. My recommendation, and I tell this to everyone, don't make your tuner car your daily. Get a regular daily, THEN get the 240, because the one you posted could very easily be someone else's nightmare that they're just trying to dump off on a sucker.

JBB
02-27-2014, 07:54 PM
see's hot chick while driving 240 -- how you doin? ;)

see's hot chick while driving daily plymouth neon -- plz dont look me :(

true story

ZsoonJr
02-27-2014, 08:18 PM
see's hot chick while driving 240 -- how you doin? ;)

see's hot chick while driving daily plymouth neon -- plz dont look me :(

true story

I'm sorry for your loss.:keke:

On topic, I guess i'll look into something else since nothing good was said about the 240. Probably will get a Z if i can find a decent one. Hell ill probably just buy another crotch rocket.

DJ 21o3
02-27-2014, 08:18 PM
see's hot chick while driving 240 -- how you doin? ;)

see's hot chick while driving daily plymouth neon -- plz dont look me :(

true story

Sees a hot chick while riding his bicycle to class because his modified daily driver broke down = U-turn!


In all seriousness, even a bone stock car will have quite a few issues because of their age.

Buy a civic as a daily driver and then buy the project on the side. Then you can slip in that you have a race car you are building at home when you are talking to that hot girl.

Reece
02-27-2014, 09:51 PM
This car is easily worth $8500. I'd do it.

DJ 21o3
02-27-2014, 09:55 PM
This car is easily worth $8500. I'd do it.

Read that it will be his daily driver and must be reliable..

Yes the car is probably worth quite a bit, but it can be risky having a modified car as a daily driver. Especially one you did not assemble.

sidewayzzenki
02-27-2014, 10:50 PM
Buying my 97 Kouki was one of the best decisions I've ever made. I have fun in it and I daily it. The headaches I've had from it are definitely worth it;every time I get it back on it's feet and I go for a cruise I feel a great deal of satisfaction.

I say go for cheaper 240. Daily it. Build it. Break it. Rebuild it. Repeat. It's definitely not for everyone though.

zooopreme
02-27-2014, 11:35 PM
People actually purchase virgin S14's for more than $5,000? Talk about dori hella flush fanboy tax. Jesus.

Anybody with any sense in them should never pay over 5 grand for a stock 240SX. These cars do not age very well even in stock form.

If you've got money to get a cars like the G35 and Z's and all of that, going with a newer car isn't bad at all.

Just piggybacking on what flip said, 240's that have manual transmissions should make you raise a red flag. You're allowed three red flags and that's already one. It could've been adult owned and driven nicely but the fact that it has an SR swap should raise another red flag. Where did the engine come from? How long has it been in the car? Who rebuilt it? What parts were replaced? Paperwork? That within itself becomes the biggest headache should any info go unnoticed. That's two. The fact that you're looking for a reliable car but wanting to fuck with it should be your last and final flag. I'm sure you mean well but it never ends well unless you fork up the cash to replace everything and restore the car. That alone would cost more than a Z or a G35 which imo, isn't worth a measly S14.

Rayne
02-28-2014, 12:39 AM
If you can't afford to pay for the repairs if it breaks down. Don't buy it.

Don't buy a car if you think "It will get you chicks." Some chicks aren't impressed by the car you have.

Don't buy a car with an Limited Slip Differential and you don't know what that is, don't know how to utilize the engine's powerband to use the LSD while you try to make a set of rear tires last for several months. Especially when you don't know what type of LSD is installed.

Don't buy a car if you can't handle feeling every little bumb in the road and the entire car body shakes because the bushings are too stiff for you. Trust me, I filled engine and transmission mounts with construction adhesive, plus installed a billet aluminium steering rod bushing.

Stick with a Honda for a daily driver.

tricky_ab
02-28-2014, 04:56 AM
First off, your project and your daily should never be the same car m'kay? Second buy a stock civic, let it ride you through college, buy 240 after school. Use the money saved by getting the civic and invest and/or pay off student loans.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnddd we are done here folks...

victme
02-28-2014, 07:01 AM
Edit : oh and also i wouldn't pay anything near 8500, i would ask 6500 off the bat.

Um good luck with that if you do think about getting the car.

Chaluska
02-28-2014, 07:28 AM
Um good luck with that if you do think about getting the car.

I don't think its un-reasonable to say he might get 6k for that s14.

only way he will get more than that is if he sells it to a JDM drifter fanboi hella frush fag.

JDMcheddar
02-28-2014, 08:15 AM
the 350z is a slow, fat turd.

This made my day. haha

After being around 240s for so long, I bought a truck to pull my shit around. Made the mistake of trying to daily the skid car long ago. Buy a civic, keep saving and then import a real Silvia so at least you can get some fanboy ass.