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SrZenkeh
01-26-2014, 09:22 PM
Cars sitting on hsd coils, just adjusted all the way down, I feel like it's not as low as it could/should be.
What do you guys think?
Wheels are 17's
http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r721/98aretee/82C2701B-CCBC-49B9-AF99-705B820A55AE-5005-000001FBCC0A313A_zpsdc16cea4.jpg
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Panorama lol
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Thanks guys

PoorMans180SX
01-26-2014, 09:28 PM
The S-chassis crowd has gotten really serious about being low. Unfortunately most coilovers that were great a few years ago are now too high for a lot of people. HSD's seem quite long from what I've seen.

Most people going for form over function will dial in a lot of camber, which makes the car lower. Looks like you are going for a more normal alignment.

SrZenkeh
01-26-2014, 09:35 PM
Yeah I've adjusted the front camber all the way out and sits pretty straight by just eye balling it, and I just got my rear adjustable camber bars in the mail today that I will be installing to straighten the back out some aswell, I want to keep tires for more than a few weeks lol one question I had also was if I need adjustable traction bars aswell out back to get full range of adjustability on the camber bars? Looks like they could hold it back some..
So this seems right then? I really like the way it looks but think the front could use a bit more low...
Now that you say it, the rear coilovers are massive... And like I said I've got these all the way down, I loosened em till the could could move freely then tightened em up a few turns..
Thanks for the reply.

PoorMans180SX
01-26-2014, 09:41 PM
Yeah I'd dial a couple degrees into the front. It won't affect tire wear much and will help with turn in.

The rears you generally need camber and toe arms, traction arms won't really hold you back from getting your alignment straight, but it will help to have adjustment there if you're wanting to dial the car in fully.

Fuego
01-26-2014, 09:44 PM
You wouldn't be able to keep the normal car alignment anyway if you went lower. Looks good where it is.

SrZenkeh
01-26-2014, 10:03 PM
Yeah I'd dial a couple degrees into the front. It won't affect tire wear much and will help with turn in.

The rears you generally need camber and toe arms, traction arms won't really hold you back from getting your alignment straight, but it will help to have adjustment there if you're wanting to dial the car in fully.

Once I get the car on the road I will start to dial the car in more, for now I'm just trying to get things close to where I want them, I'll check out some toe bars I think, thanks for the tips and help man

SrZenkeh
01-26-2014, 10:06 PM
You wouldn't be able to keep the normal car alignment anyway if you went lower. Looks good where it is.

That's true, I guess you can only go so low before you start to mess with how the car operates haha
Thanks for the kind words.
I have 30mm rear overfenders coming, and probably gonna get some spacers too to fit properly, also thinking about a candy red or graphite grey for paint.
Thanks

Steinkrunk
01-26-2014, 10:18 PM
Tips for teh lows:

Max the front camber plate towards the negative side
If your coilovers have slotted holes where they mount to the knuckle, tilt knuckle towards negative camber when bolting it up.
Only use the top collar of the 3 locking collars(the one closest to spring)
Set spring preload at zero with the remaining collar and spin lower mount up until it seats against the collar.
Finally install one of those extra collars under the lower mount and tighten top collar and lower collar against the mount, locking it in.

That will be the lowest you will be able to get you car with whatever setup you have. Add spacers to bring wheel away from coilover/closer to fender more maximum hella stance bro points

Charlie_91
01-27-2014, 04:13 PM
my car is on hsd coilovers and on 17's

all collars removed on the fronts and just slammed rear

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3749/10011454686_0b53d441cb_c.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5523/10011382004_b6fc08f19c_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7398/10011428575_4e93b5ff95_c.jpg

SrZenkeh
01-27-2014, 04:33 PM
When you say all collars removed, your serious? So there is virtually no spring in the front?
Looks good but damn, i don't wanna be low THAT bad.

Charlie_91
01-27-2014, 10:37 PM
lol what ? when i say i removed the collars it means i removed the collars like this.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7454/12184404703_01165b4ca7_c.jpg

SrZenkeh
01-28-2014, 05:28 AM
lol what ? when i say i removed the collars it means i removed the collars like this.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7454/12184404703_01165b4ca7_c.jpg

Oh ok I misunderstood, got a pic of the back by chance?

Def
01-28-2014, 02:49 PM
So sad that this is what kids want out of an S-chassis these days...

Charlie_91
01-28-2014, 04:07 PM
lol why is it sad ? i still use my car and drive it hard so i dont see the issue.

for the rear wind the thread into the base then wind the sping down to ur desired height. easy as that.

Def
01-28-2014, 08:35 PM
I'm sure you really tear it up around a track with -15 degrees of front camber and 10 mm of travel before the tire hits the unibody.


Just say you do it to look cool...


And to answer your question, it's sad because that's what most kids who buy S-chassis these days care about.

SrZenkeh
01-28-2014, 10:03 PM
lol why is it sad ? i still use my car and drive it hard so i dont see the issue.

for the rear wind the thread into the base then wind the sping down to ur desired height. easy as that.

Oh shoot son, I never realised the tjreaded part could also be spun down... I'll have to try this out tomorrow, thanks!

As for what most kids want in their s chassis these days.
Note how I said their*
No explanation needed..

beauwalnut
01-30-2014, 09:02 AM
In my opinion your car looks perfect. The only thing I dont like is the yellow headlights.

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JonathanPrem
01-30-2014, 11:53 AM
Did you buy this car recently?

SrZenkeh
01-30-2014, 09:24 PM
Thanks for the compliment, I'm pretty happy with how she sits now too, front could use a wee bit more though

Yeah I just picked this thing up around first of the month out of Brampton.

SrZenkeh
01-31-2014, 08:24 PM
Alright now I got er all figured out....
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